What game is FOOTBALL?!?

[Edo_555]

[Justice]

European football you mean in pt. 1?

Soccer as americans call it?

[znork]

I dont understabd the question? a foot and ball what to they have to withe eache other!

[Justice]

Just immagine it's a head Znork http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

[Secret_Holder]

Football is what the yanks call soccer (could someone please explain to me where this word comes from?)
Filthy americans. Stealing or name for the greatest game in the world. Shame on you! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

[Leto_II]

it is obviously the american version that is right..just analyze the name foot ball..the european sport you kick around a ball with your feet..makes no sense..in the american version you dont have a ball..and you use your hands..exept for after scoreing when you do kick..and at occation during the game..so clearly the sport where you run around with a stewie head shaped pig blatter is the proper game to call football

[Justice]

No American here http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[legriv]

Originally posted by Leto_II:
it is obviously the american version that is right..just analyze the name foot ball..the european sport you kick around a ball with your feet..makes no sense..in the american version you dont have a ball..and you use your hands..exept for after scoreing when you do kick..and at occation during the game..so clearly the sport where you run around with a stewie head shaped pig blatter is the proper game to call football

Hey man you should look up the phrase "foot ball" - foot means the lower part of your leg. No offence, but the European version couldn't have had a more appropriate name. And by the way, our version was invented around the end of the 19th century, could ou tell me when Americans began playing soccer?

[tomeemot]

I might be making an *** of myself but legriv if u dont understand thet Leto_II was sarcastic u need help but if u did dont mind me.

[Leto_II]

heh http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Fael569]

Oh just let them silly Americans call the greatest game of the world 'soccer'. It's obvious they suck at it, so let them be childish...

[Secret_Holder]

Hey!... Maybe that's why they call it Soccer, never thought of that.

P.S Actually I have, for a looong time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Lith_Maethor]

not a football fan, but this is one of my pet peeves...

the rest of the world has it right... americans are wrong... as usual...

[SandroTheMaster]

Someone said futbol? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

(I only have time for it with dial-up)

[azreal01]

Originally posted by Secret_Holder:
Football is what the yanks call soccer (could someone please explain to me where this word comes from?)
Filthy americans. Stealing or name for the greatest game in the world. Shame on you! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Uh, yep "Yanks" and Canadians call soccer, uh, soccer and not football. Football is indeed the game with an oval ball with Armor and Tights as the poll indicates. The game which as I might indicate, is watched at Superbowl time by no less that 850,000,000 NON-Yanks around the world who also call it football. The logic of calling soccer by the name football in Europe makes sense due to what they do to play the game (hitting a ball with a foot http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif), but we already had a game called football, so soccer it is... Did you want us to call our football game by the name "Rugby with armor and no scrum and a variety of other sweeping rule changes?". Football summed it up much better.

[SandroTheMaster]

Yeah, yeah... the superbowl is watched by a bunch of people around the world (but north american represents good part of this number), but european football came before the north american football. But, the soccer world championship is certainly more important than the superbowl. Superbowl is every year, the soccer chanpionship is every 4 years and more than 2 BILLION of people around the world watches it, not to mention that the superbowl only has USA leagues, even canadians can't take part in it. Come on, the USA is just too much overestimating on themselves. As I recall, the baseball have a world series, I know that because an north american friend was proudly talking about it, I asked him which countries the USA went against in the world series, how I had guessed: NOONE. The north american football (as well as the baseball) only exists and are praticed in the USA alone (ok, Canada as well,but canadian are always trying to have USA looking down to them, unsuccessfully). Allas, OUTSIDE the USA the american football is called exactly that: AMERICAN football. There is no argue, it is no more than a national sport, no more than that strange canadian sport where they clean the path of a strange ball (I just don't get that sport, but it is).

(BTW, a better name than football would be punchball, because you see much more punches in the sport than feet actually kicking "balls", and he ball isn't even a ball.)

[Secret_Holder]

Well Sandro , that's the American way:

Make up a sport, steal a name, and have a "national" world championship http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Leto_II]

are you talking about curling?..that is more a big rock and not so much a ball lol

[Edo_555]

What does means soccer?
socks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
Friend of mine once said, that american football is an interesting game. I tryed to watch, but I couldn't find, what is so exiting about it. Just advertisment pauses after every 10 minuteshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Football (european football) is worlds played spots game. Football is popular most of the parts of world. On the other side american football (soccer) is played only in few countries. Just an american nacional quind of sport.

[Fael569]

Maybe American Rugby would be a better name for that game.

[Red_orbiT_]

I think they should rename everything.
european football/soccer = Flashdance
american football = Bladerunner
This would remove all confusion right away.
Now, you would of course have to rename the movies too. It would be like:
"Want to play some Flashdance?"
"No, we dont do that here in America, we like to do a Bladerunner all over the place."
***
"Want to go watch some American Football?"
"Yea, that's a great sf."

[Lith_Maethor]

heeey!

why do we get Flashdance and they get Bladerunner? ...if anything the reality is the other way round ...and since Vangelis was behind Br's soundtrack, i demand we get that

[Red_orbiT_]

American football more like flashdance? Maybe. Anyway, I was only talking about switching names, no similarities whatsoever needed. But see, your confusion went away!
PS: *s******* Just imagining all those big men in armour spinning around singing "What a feeling" makes me laugh myself asunder.

[waylander786]

This quote from John Cleese should sum it up:


6. You should stop playing American football. There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American football is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays American football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US Rugby sevens side by 2005. You should stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.15% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders,your error is understandable. Instead of baseball, you will be allowed to play a girls' game called rounders, which is baseball without fancy team strip, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.

lol

[Riand]

soccer is like RPGs ..

after playing RPGs in 90 minutes sometimes you could only kill one boss. or even none. after playing soccer in 90 minutes perhaps you could only score one goal. or even none.

and you must have different strategies to beat different bosses .. ahem .. enemy teams ..

american football or basketball are like tetris
or other simple arcade games ..

[Riand]

and only in soccer, the yanks will never ever feel and say that they are better than any other countries ..

*only 2 posts in order. no spam* http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[someone-else90]

heh heh...funny topic. I myself am from the US but HAVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD THIS EITHER. I'd be the first to admit that our "football" isn't even a very good game. And why the heck is it called football in the first place? Nobody uses their feet!
I wish we would follow the rest of the world's lead and turn soccer into a major sport here.

[Secret_Holder]

Originally posted by Axe_Waylander:
This quote from John Cleese should sum it up:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">6. You should stop playing American football. There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American football is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays American football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US Rugby sevens side by 2005. You should stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.15% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders,your error is understandable. Instead of baseball, you will be allowed to play a girls' game called rounders, which is baseball without fancy team strip, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.

lol </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Only one thing to say: John Cleese is a very wise man http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Riand]

Originally posted by someone-else90:
I wish we would follow the rest of the world's lead and turn soccer into a major sport here.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

i hope the soccer league in USA beats NBA in popularity someday http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

i play basketball for fun sometimes. but watching basketball is really a pain in the *** .. only a psycho would do that.

think of it. you watch an NBA game. one of your favorite team ie. you pay a huge price for the ticket. just to do these:

you cheer up, clap your hand when your team get scored. and then silent in the next ten or twenty second when your enemy team get scored.

again and again along the game. cheer up, silent. cheer up, silent. cheer up, silent. every twenty second. nuts.

as crazy as american football. every twenty second stopped.

[Arhaeus]

The secret of the real football consist in his simplicity. Is simple and fun, everybody could play it. And also could become very tactical and complex if you want.
Anyway, if USA (who are novice in this sport) want to play like Brazil and win the World Cup, they have no chance. Not only because nobody could ever play like Brasil, but they have a hudge gap to fill to catch the other nation too. Or else they will remain with their football, and play alone.

[Secret_Holder]

Can nobody play like Brazil? You know, as I see it Brazil is hugely overrated. They have two good players, Ronaldinho and Robinho.
The World Cup will end up in England or Italy, no doubt about it.

[Dergos]

italy is going to win, england isn't that strong this year

[Secret_Holder]

Italy with Del Piero up in front http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[someone-else90]

Argh!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif Here it is almost World Cup time and I know nothing about any of the teams or anything because my country refuses to get into the sport. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

[Red_orbiT_]

Argh!!!http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gifHere it is almost World Cup time and I know nothing about any of the teams or anything because I'm not interested. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
Erm... what?
Don't look at me like that! No flame! No flame!
*runs away*

[someone-else90]

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif It's very difficult for a person to really follow a sport when all your tv channels put on is our "football", which I've already condemned in a previous post as being a terrible excuse for a sport.
Keep up the false quotes, orbit, and I'll find something awful to throw at you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

[Red_orbiT_]

I wasn't really quoting. Just lending. Likes to lend orbiT does.
Hee hee! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

THIS is a false quote:

Originally posted by someone-else90:
Keep up the false quotes, orbiT, and I'll find something awful to throw at you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

[someone-else90]

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Polaris2013]

Originally posted by someone-else90:
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif It's very difficult for a person to really follow a sport when all your tv channels put on is our "football", which I've already condemned in a previous post as being a terrible excuse for a sport.
Keep up the false quotes, orbit, and I'll find something awful to throw at you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

What channel are you watching?! It's offseason in American football!

And there are no pathetic excuses for a sport. Except for the 5 different kinds of Olympic bobsledding- and that's just because they can't condense it to fewer events. I mean, seriously. Come on.

[someone-else90]

You're nitpicking my post! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif
When I said that all our channels put on is football, I didn't mean it literally. I just meant to say that we don't greatly publicize soccer here, and put on other sports instead. I didn't feel like introducing basketball, golf, Nascar, etc. into the thread.
I don't enjoy US football, and would much prefer it if soccer took its place here.

As for bobsled, well, I agree with you there. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[SandroTheMaster]

Quote from the brazilian guy.

Yeah, I know our team is weak, actually it has been weak since our coachers (trainers, whatever) decided to not like Romário, the ACTUAL best player. He is pissed, if anyone could remember, we won 94 because of him, and it is truly amazing to watch him in the field, even depressed and not willing to seriously be part of the game he still scores 1-2 goals himself (the team he is playing right now have only players that hates him, so he basically plays by himself, he is in team because of the 1-2 goals a game he scores...), and that from a brazillian who don't like the sport that much (yes, those exist).

Still, just to refresh some minds, Brazil didn't had a good team in 2002 as well (you don't know how "Filipão", the trainer of 2002, was criticized here, and yet we won... somehow, I myself wasn't sure of that year...), yet, this year I can't tell much of our chances.

One last note, I know Robinho and Ronaldinho (second note, "inho" in the end of a name is diminutive in portuguese, like "doggy" or "Jimmy") aren't the only good players, they are well known because they're attackers, but there is a "team player" called "Cacá" that does one of the best delivering around.

[Justice]

You ar e allwornge. Next time it'll be the Faroe Islands http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

[Secret_Holder]

Yup. The othere teams have no chance. I mean, who are we grouped together for the EC qualifiers? Italy and France. We'll kick their a** http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Justice]

We'll beat them easily, just as we won on... ehm.. vunni vit á nøkrum sÃÂ*Ã?sta ár? I meaan we only lost 2-1 on Germany and so on http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Dergos]

belgium is going to win, yeah we have the red devils http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif right like they can make a goal

[Secret_Holder]

Originally posted by Justice:
We'll beat them easily, just as we won on... ehm.. vunni vit á nøkrum sÃÂ*Ã?sta ár? I meaan we only lost 2-1 on Germany and so on http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Nope, we didn't win any match last year. But we'll get 'em this year for sure http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

[SandroTheMaster]

Keep the good thought http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

Well, here a little tip, you can actually have a chance if your selection gets Romário. He isn't in ours because our trainer is a fruit. Romário may not have the best attitude nowdays, but because he was forced into it. But the guy could secure 1-2 goals a match for you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[CorbieKitaal777]

I dont get how so many people can dislike Americans. The most common "stereotypes" for Americans are that they are ignorant and full of themselves.. but then here are a bunch of people making ignorant comments about Americans, and pumping up their own egos in the process. By your definition, you are doing a very American thing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

All that being said, I am not sure why we decided to call our sport Football. According to wordorigins.com..

"Soccer is an abbreviation for Association Football. The Football Association was formed in London in October 1863 when representatives of eleven clubs and schools met in an attempt to standardize the rules of the game. One of the rules prohibited the carrying of the ball, a rule that would lead to the Rugby-oriented clubs leaving the Association several months later. The name Association Football was coined to distinguish it from Rugby.

By 1889, the abbreviation socca' was in use, and the spelling soccer had made its appearance by 1895."

American Football evolved from Rugby, and Rugby was apparently once associated with soccer(football), and so that may be where the name ended up coming from.

Im not sure. Personally I prefer American Football to soccer. It is what I grew up with and ive developed a love for the game, so i can understand why people who grew up with soccer dont really care for American football, cause I dont really care for Soccer.

Anyway, whether you love soccer or football, I dont see why you have to insult one or the other, or the people associated with it. If you want explainations of American Football and why it is played the way it is, and why they wear "armor and tights".. ill be happy to explain it to you. They dont do it because they are afraid to break a nail.

Anyway... last I heard, the Americans were ranked pretty high on the "standings" for international Football.. so maybe ya shouldnt be saying we suck at it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

America is a country made up of millions upon millions of people. Only a fool would pass judgement on that many people, based on what they see on television. Lets try not to get too harsh eh?

[akito272927]

what romario?? comme on heâ´s too old. I am from argentina and i tell you, if you put romario on the pitch it makes us happy. Yes put him and keep ronaldo, ronaldinho, kaka,robiño,adriano out.......are you sure he can by pass defences???....do you think he has a chance against any team with a good defence???

[Justice]

That was in the 60es the Americans where good... now even we in the Faroes could have a possibility to beat you guys http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif just teasing you, but it is true that you guys where world champions once in 1956 thoug... according to history books the most shocking outcome in the history of footbal, the secoind most shocking outcome wwas the first match we faroese played... we won against some of the favorites for the world championship... however right now I forgott the name of the country even thoug I know exactly where it is and all that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

[CorbieKitaal777]

hmm..yah we are rated 14th in the world now..according to this anyway.

http://www.eloratings.net/world.html

I do believe we were rated 7th or something not too long ago though.

14th aint too shabby either, considering there are 227 teams listed there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[someone-else90]

I doubt they'd put soccer on in the US if we were rated #1... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[CorbieKitaal777]

prolly not.. though it has been getting more popular in the US lately. I hope it continues to grow as a sport here. Id like to see us competing better on an international level.

Its just difficult with Baseball, bastketball, and our brand of football being so popular.. a 4th popular sport just feels like overkill. Especially if ya live up north and have Hockey to follow as well http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

[someone-else90]

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif Except I don't live up north and don't follow hockey http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Secret_Holder]

Originally posted by Justice:
That was in the 60es the Americans where good... now even we in the Faroes could have a possibility to beat you guys http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif just teasing you, but it is true that you guys where world champions once in 1956 thoug... according to history books the most shocking outcome in the history of footbal, the secoind most shocking outcome wwas the first match we faroese played... we won against some of the favorites for the world championship... however right now I forgott the name of the country even thoug I know exactly where it is and all that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif You've forgotten the name? It's one of thee few great honors this country has!!!
Just kidding, it's Austria (EysturrÃÂ*ki http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[akito272927]

Originally posted by Justice:
That was in the 60es the Americans where good... now even we in the Faroes could have a possibility to beat you guys http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif just teasing you, but it is true that you guys where world champions once in 1956 thoug... according to history books the most shocking outcome in the history of footbal, the secoind most shocking outcome wwas the first match we faroese played... we won against some of the favorites for the world championship... however right now I forgott the name of the country even thoug I know exactly where it is and all that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif



in 1956 no world cup, so champion of what??

[Secret_Holder]

Originally posted by Justice:
That was in the 60es the Americans where good... now even we in the Faroes could have a possibility to beat you guys http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif just teasing you, but it is true that you guys where world champions once in 1956 thoug... according to history books the most shocking outcome in the history of footbal, the secoind most shocking outcome wwas the first match we faroese played... we won against some of the favorites for the world championship... however right now I forgott the name of the country even thoug I know exactly where it is and all that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Actually, this is not true, and I don't know where you got it from. USA have never made it further than the semi-finals in a World Cup.

The "shocking" result you are talking about, was when the US won 1-0 against England. But that was in the group stage (wich they failed to qualify from), not in a final.
More about that match here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_v_United_States_%281950%29

[akito272927]

True

[SandroTheMaster]

Originally posted by akito272927:
what romario?? comme on heâ´s too old. I am from argentina and i tell you, if you put romario on the pitch it makes us happy. Yes put him and keep ronaldo, ronaldinho, kaka,robiño,adriano out.......are you sure he can by pass defences???....do you think he has a chance against any team with a good defence???

He is old, and Pelé said he should retire...
But he answered: "Pelé when in silence is a poet." Have you seem his games. The guy wants to continue playing, and he is a great player. He didn't went for te last cups (and isn't going in this one) for personal reasons from the trainers, but that doesn't stop him from playing, he is in brazillian team and he isn't palyin seriously, since he thinks those teams are a joke. He doens't even chase the ball, still he scores in EVERY SINGLE MATCH HE GOES. His goal/match medium is already past Pelé.

And, by all means, I always try to not start boasting, but people brings the subject in, not me. I'm just keeping the subject, and telling the truth. And by the truth I mean, we probably won't get the title this year (but how four years ago my bet was on that and I lost, and four year before it was in the win and yet I lost, I don't think my guesses are good).

And when I talked about American Football and Baseball, I wasn't saying it is necessarily bad sports, I'm just saying that americans usually are too full of themselves when speaking of those games as if they were the most important games in the world. For me, the most important game in the world is Heroes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif But I don't try to coerce EVERYBODY to think heroes is the best. Opposed to the average american...

Resuming, I like to work with facts, and if there are no facts, I like to stay neutral. Or, by preference, against the americans, just because (and this is a fact) they are usually wrong or greedy... <span class="ev_code_WHITE">or sometimes cruel...</span>

[CorbieKitaal777]

If you dont live in America then, honestly, how many Americans do you come into contact with usually..and do all of them just run up and say "Your foreign sports suck. You should be watching American sports" ??

just curious cause this whole "Americans are full of themselves and try to make everyone do what they do" thing... im just not seeing it.

I think the whole idea stems from our foreign policy.. with our government trying to make everyone live like Americans http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.. but..big surprise.. Americans arent all like that.

[SandroTheMaster]

No, I do have american friends that are always saying how football isn't logical and that I should turn to american football. And allas, the USA makes WAY TOO MUCH propaganda of themselves all over the world, and football is one of the main topics. You must live outside USA to notice that, still, most north americans have little known to what happens outside their boarders, but they must be really naive if they think there is no such thing. Just in 2004 USA had some policy that people were interrogated if they were from "danger countries". Well, more than a few dozen brazillians couldn't get past the airport because they didn't knew things like the name of all Beattles or who won the last "World" Series of baseball (I think it is ridiculous, Brazil has no historic of terrorism by the means USA consider terrorism, they just assumed all latin american countries were "danger countries"), the situation reversed after some americans being unable to enter Brazil for similar reasons (although I'm almost sure there is no way a middle-eastern can enter USA without this questioning and, more disturbing, cavity searches)

[CorbieKitaal777]

lol.. ok.

Well it looks like we are both gonna have to live with or ignorance.

Id bet you money that more than half of those examples you just cited are either made up, or blown way out of proportion.

And im also 99.99999999999% sure that every arab that enters america isnt getting a body cavity search :P

[SandroTheMaster]

When I say something that is a fact, it is a fact, when I say something that I bet or something like that, then it is made up, but it might be true.

[Justice]

Originally posted by Secret_Holder:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Justice:
That was in the 60es the Americans where good... now even we in the Faroes could have a possibility to beat you guys http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif just teasing you, but it is true that you guys where world champions once in 1956 thoug... according to history books the most shocking outcome in the history of footbal, the secoind most shocking outcome wwas the first match we faroese played... we won against some of the favorites for the world championship... however right now I forgott the name of the country even thoug I know exactly where it is and all that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Actually, this is not true, and I don't know where you got it from. USA have never made it further than the semi-finals in a World Cup.

The "shocking" result you are talking about, was when the US won 1-0 against England. But that was in the group stage (wich they failed to qualify from), not in a final.
More about that match here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_v_United_States_%281950%29 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Never trust the Faroese media... they allways get everything wronge http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif that sounds more plausible http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

[Riand]

WC is still about 2 months up front, why don't we talk about champions league first?

is there any arsenal fans here? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ps: i'm sure that italy will die in the first group stage of wc

*one of the good thing living in indonesia is you can watch EPL, La Liga, Serie A and then world cup in your tv, freely and legally. no need to pay for every match you view*

[Secret_Holder]

I'm no Gunner's fan, but I am a Juve fan, and Arsenal were only lucky to go to the semi's. Nah, just kidding http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif , they were a little notch better than Juve.

[akito272927]

yellow submarine will kick ***!!!

Argentina world cup failure 2006!!!!

[Mr_Beelies]

Ok about the "Football" or "Soccer" thing. Let them call it what they like. For me the name is not important. It's all about the sport.

ok the world championschips. I really don't have any clue about which country makes a chance. Normally you would say: Germany, The Netherlands, Brasil, Argentina, Italy, England and France are the better teams, but we will see soon enough. Germany here I come.

And now tonight the biggest event in de football on club based games (you can really compare this to the Super Bowl) The Champions League Final. It doesn't really matter who wins. Cause I'm an ajax fan. However I really hope for Bergkamp's sake that he can stop his carreer with the cup. Barca will win in the future.

[Kilon]

Let's face it Brazil will win it again ... watching the friendly games of brazil , france, england , italy etc. it is easy to see that
But the most important thing is that is going to be an exciting world cup.

AS for the american sterotype well do not blame us Europeans blame TV since today anything seems like exaggeration

As for american football is not a bad sport. European football is the most evil sport on the other hand American football is the most violent. It is evil because you have to wait minute after minute for a single goal... is there any more sweet torture.. hahaha I love this sport

The best sport is sex ... always !!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif I wish we had a world cup for that everything else seems to boring

Imaging world teams competing in the most satisfactory activity!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

[SandroTheMaster]

The best sport is sex ... always !!! Hammer Demonic Heart I wish we had a world cup for that everything else seems to boring

Imaging world teams competing in the most satisfactory activity!!!! Veryhappy

Look at this article http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif (It's a humor one, but it's very funny)

Fargo's Sim-Limpic Games (http://www.gamespy.com/articles/544/544217p3.html)

[Falaris]

Football / soccer is truly a world game, and in the world cup, teams from every continent plays and has placed well. (Okay, australia never did too well, and asia, while fairly unknown, did get to the semi-finals in 2002.).

That is important, and is part of what makes it a great game. Rich country, poor country, north or south, east or west, we all compete - also the US, who even hosted the World Cup is 1994, and it was the largest in history.

Other than that, I'm not really a sports fan.

The other subject here is much closer to my profession. I will say this: When Bush asked 'Why does the world hate america?' he demonstrated the problem exactly. Starting with an assumption that everyone hates someone is very, very dangerous. You automatically think it's us vs. them. (Or, U.S. vs. them), and it becomes a self-fulfilling rhetoric.

Especially when it's followed by an answer as preposterous and simplistic as 'because they hate our freedom'.

Add to that, that it appears that is what US foreign policy believes, it becomes increasingly difficult to be an ally of the USA.

As noted somewhere else here, I'm a Norwegian. We were actually not only asked to contribute to the Iraq war - we allready contributed a lot to the Afghan one - but we were threatened with sanctions if we didn't. And we didn't, and we got hit by sanctions. When we allready contributed to one of the US' wars. (The one that actually had a good reason - and it's still going on, even worsening, if you haven't noticed.). It needed a change in government to a bunch of spineless ******s for us to join the 'coalition of the willing'.

Why this complaint about US diplomacy? The US has tended to have very good diplomats worldwide. My father has very fond memories of both friendship and professionalism of US representatives. The US has been VERY good at getting consensus for its causes. Both Clinton and Bush SR. got unanimous support for their wars, when at last they were voted on.

What happens now? Instead of appointing trained, experienced diplomats as Ambassadors, it appears the president is going through the 'biggest contributors' list. The current ambassador to Norway has contributed 194000 dollars to the Bush Campaign fund, and is otherwise a Minnesota bussinessman with some law school. And it shows.

But that isn't why I hate america... why do I? Despite bush's question, actually, I don't. Bit exasperated, and not overly enthusiastic, but hate? No.. although, nah, I don't like the current administration, no.

[Falaris]

A wise man once said, don't drink and post.

OH well. I guess I should add one thing - the current policy both by europe and the US is to put the whole Iraq mess and in particular the harsh words and disagreements in its wake behind us. In the world we *are* allies, for better or worse.

[SandroTheMaster]

Worry not fellow. You have all the right to talk about your concerns towards the USA... as long as you aren't from USA itself... or show it by exploding yourself in a skyscraper or two... or showing any signs that you could do that... welll, you admitted that you do things you wouldn't normally do under alchool influence, that might be a sign... FAST, CHANGE YOUR NAME AND RUN TO CHINA!

Now, serious, just yesterday I saw an interesting movie, actually an episode from an interesting serie in a exclusive channel. Well, the important is that the episode was a huge critic against the USA government. It is kinda like mini-horror movies the episodes of this series, unfortunatelly, I can't tell the name of it as I can't remember just now. It was about a guy that make a wish in a TV show. He works for th republican campaign and said that "if he had a wish, and only one, he would ask his rother to be back, and he was sure that his brother would say he was proud of dying in Vietnan". After that all soldiers who died in Iraq start raising from the dead to vote against Bush... ok, I know this sounds a bit too strange, but it makes sense if you watch the episode yourself.

[Kilon]

I am Greek and of course European. For me nothing is what it seems. If Europe is so concerned with the foreign policy of USA and strongly disagree with war against IRAQ why do not they use brute force to stop USA or at least threaten it . And do not start saying about Usa that is military dominant , cause I have friends in special forces in Greece and is no secret that in militar international ranks USA is no so respected for its efficiency. Thus for me everybody plays the game. Just some of them do not want to get their hand dirty. For most people around the world wars is just another television show for the victims is a diffirent story altogether.

You guess it I hate USA politics but then again I hate politics and politicians , that does not change if they are Greeks or not. On the other hand I do not like that this guy you call president has the support of the majority of americans or even the support of a huge minority. Thus I have to be sincere to you I hate those americans and anybody who thinks he is better just because he is louder. For the rest of America well I have nothing against ... my love to those that spread the message of peace

I say silence is gold. The wolrld desperatly needs some silence. We are nothing but small dots in the ocean of creation.... Ants in world of Giants. It is time we learn where our place is . So for Christ Sake be Silent and do what you should do !!

[Falaris]

Kilon, are you out of your mind?

Disagreeing is one thing. Getting 'bend over or else' ultimatums is another thing, that I can blame on Bush, not americans in general. But USA is an ally, a friend, a major trading partner, and more. We share too much history and joint effort to be anything else. I heartily disagree with some of what they do but I have no wish, in any way, manner or form, to see harm come to them, even less to do so myself. That is without regard to what the chances of doing so successfully are. Things has to change drastically before it is even conceivable.

[SandroTheMaster]

One interesting part of the episode is when the USA soldiers are just starting to raise. Then one goes to a voting cabin, votes, and dies (again) right there in the floor.

Well, at the start the republicans are using this to their advantage saying that not even death would stop the american people to vote for what is right. And a republican priest is in the same TV show where that guy I mentioned had made his wish saying that this was a miracle from God, the one that He gave to his son and He thought that only the american people deserved it as well to perform their democracy. A publicitarian from the republicans then says how it isn't illegal that they vote because the law restricts the "dead" and that "undead" is not the same... one week after, one of the dead soldiers says in national press that they are voting for whoever it is, as long as it is someone who stops this stupid war that is killing them (AKA, not mister Bush). After that the same priest and the same publicitarian goes to the same TV show, but now the priest says that the dead soldiers were the troops of hell who came to earth to punish man for their sins as the publicitarian says that tests showed that those soldiers had no brain activity, so, they couldn't vote as people in comma can't vote.

One specially hillarious part is when the republicans are in meeting and one complains why the dead soldiers don't act like regular zombies and bite someone's neck, so they could have an excuse to not let them vote...

[Justice]

Sounds pretty far fetched http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

[Red_orbiT_]

Republicans... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
How they've managed to make more than half of the votes while their policy benefits(in comparison to the other party) about 2% of the population is a testament to human intelligence.

No, that wasn't necesarily meant as anything nice. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Justice]

They only get 25% of the American people who can be allowed to vote to vote for them...

And i don't understand this:


One specially hillarious part is when the republicans are in meeting and one complains why the dead soldiers don't act like regular zombies and bite someone's neck, so they could have an excuse to not let them vote...


When did this ever stop them? Bushe's first "victory"... does anyone remember the juridical dancing then?

[SandroTheMaster]

Other part of the episode, when the elections are over, one of the headmasters of the republican party just says (as they figured out they WEREN'T going to win): "we will have to call the mans, we're not going to lose", the guy who made the wish says : "what're you're gonna do about it?" She answers: "you're stupid? We are losing. But WE are the ones who counts the votes. If the voter don't know who to vote for, we must help them with this decision"

I think you know what she did...

(PS: This episode went on air at USA the day before the elections, I've heard it was somewhat criticized, but it didn't made much more than that, since, how I said, it was an exclusive channel. Means, not many people saw that.)



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One specially hillarious part is when the republicans are in meeting and one complains why the dead soldiers don't act like regular zombies and bite someone's neck, so they could have an excuse to not let them vote...



When did this ever stop them? Bushe's first "victory"... does anyone remember the juridical dancing then? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In the episode the soldiers had the population aprooval. AND they weren't those sissy zombies from resident evil, they were supernatural zombies who simply didn't die. They couldn't just kill then, or bury them or something, it didn't helped (but they tried).

[Justice]

Would like to see those series http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Oh, and they are closer to only gettin 15%, since it only is half who has registered and I think the normal turnout is something like 60%...

[SandroTheMaster]

It is interesting. Famous directors of horror movies are asked to make each episode. The director of this episode was called Paul Dante, I guess.

[Justice]

I will tell my movie expert insanely freakish lesikon friend if he has heard about them... he will have gotten us the part s through his net within a week then http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Edo_555]

Iran will be the champion.
At least they will have many fans of very specifical political parties http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Kungfusuzie]

First: Yay for the Football game that's going on now. (yes to me it's called Soccer, but out of respect I shall call it Football...it actually makes more sense anyway)

Second: Um...hello! It's also the Stanley Cup!!! I didn't see anyone mention that (unless I missed the post) As a Canadian, this is OUR big game and a Canadian team is in the cup this year, so it's a matter of National Pride...will we beat the American team?? (not looking good so far, btw) Mind you, I think half of the NHL players are Canadian anyway http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I think we need a "Good Luck Oilers" thread to help Edmonton out of it's loosing slump.

GO OILERS!

[SandroTheMaster]

That was a funny game now.

Trinidad e Tobago against Sweeden.

0 x 0

Trinidad celebrated like a victory and Sweeden mourned like a defeat.

It was very funny. Good first timer, Trinidad.

EDIT: Thanks, didn't find it in the dictionary.

[Justice]

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif Sweeden

[SandroTheMaster]

There are lots of European countries with very diferent names in portuguese and english, that guess was a longshot.

[Justice]

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I bet the Sweedes would have prefeered that it really was Switzerland http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[SandroTheMaster]

Oh yeah. My old man too. He has an interesting bet with his co-workers, the one who guess right the most of the games will get a Plama TV.

[Justice]

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif good i'm not in that bet with my limited football knowledge (read nonexcistant) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[tadaeusas]

i like Zidane.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
two years ago he kicked England men's asses in last two minutes... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

[Justice]

"It took a run to the quarterfinals during the 2002 World Cup for the United States to make people forget about the poor US teams of the past, but it took only five minutes on Monday to remind them," the Tribune said, in reference to Czech striker Jan Koller scoring the first goal against the Americans while some fans were still settling into their seats.
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Edo_555]

Like african teams.
Australia is nice too. Very attacking football.
And Ukraina. I m for Ukraina.

But I don't think Brazil will be champions. IMHO germany will.

[SandroTheMaster]

I too think Brazil won't be the champion. Until now they are too confident... and playing too poorly considering what they are. They are leaving the defense too open. If our Dida wasn't the reincarnation of our legendary keeper from 94, Taffarel, they would be screwed. The past teams got shots to the goal much much more than Brazil itself, and they weren't the STRONG teams, but how Dida is taking all the balls they are getting too confident that they don't need to worry with the defense. BUT... if he keeps that way we can still win nonetheless...

[SandroTheMaster]

Haha! Parreira deserved to be beaten, and he got it.

I'm not pleased that all my country had to suffer for this, but... well, Parreira (our coacher) was too overconfident for our sake.

How I pointed out, we were doing good because we hadn't faced the big bads yet, and now that we did, I foresaw our defeat. Defense, too weak, Parreira, way too stuborn with weak formations and busy with the **** in his head to do something useful.

The most funny is that my old man almost got that right with his bet, but he was too generous with Brazil, he bet Brazil 1x2 France...

Seriously, if Brazil had won this one the way it was playing, that would be a victory to be ashamed (like the second goal over Gana and the victory over Japan 4 years ago). Parreira actually believed he was doing good, and worse, he made our own players to be as overconfident as he is by sayig that bull**** to them.

Oh, BTW, I think it's already good to ask, who do you think that will get the cup?

(I apologize in advance for the double-posting)

[tadaeusas]

je suis pour les hommes francaise http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

[Edo_555]

Great football pictures. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif
Goal:
http://www.adpunch.org/images/1sa.jpg

Our team are victorios:
http://www.adpunch.org/images/2sa.jpg

http://www.adpunch.org/images/3sa.jpg

Interesting futball uniforms:
http://www.adpunch.org/images/4sa.jpg

http://www.adpunch.org/images/5sa.jpg

http://www.adpunch.org/images/6sa.jpg

I can help:
http://www.adpunch.org/images/7sa.jpg

http://www.adpunch.org/images/8sa.jpg

http://www.adpunch.org/images/9sa.jpg

Attack:
http://www.adpunch.org/images/10sa.jpg

[TheDreamSlayer]

I'm buying tickets!

[smith-b-d]

lol, groin kick.

[PhoenixReborn06]

American here.

The us national team is really bad. The FIFA rankings are so off because the US beats Guatemala and Honduras all the time.

I like the Mexican team much better, but they seem to have a tough time against the US team...sometimes they get outmuscled/outfouled.

Still, there are some good individual American players.

You have Tim Howard at Man Utd, maybe he moved now. And on the other side didn't another Hahneman just blank united for Reading?

Then you have Damarcus Beasley who was in the premiership and just moved to a top team in Scotland (Celtic?) not to mention Freddy Adu who just went to Benfica.

So there is some quality, just not nearly enough, and none of them are World Class.

Did anyone see the Copa America? Argentina was so good.

[smith-b-d]

Australian here, so all those choices are wrong for me.


Round ball and square gates.
Soccer.


Oval ball, in armour and tights.
Gridiron... not popular, baseball is also not popular, only 1 aussie in the world that plays it in the major league.

Foot ball is oval ball, short shorts & shirt & 'H' shaped goals.

[Havenhugger1337]

can't the americans called it ovalball, or tight-wear-armor-plated-peopleball?

FUTBULL!

you kick the ball with your foot, and somehow you manage to make yourself a vegtable while balancing a jetliner on your nose

[TheDreamSlayer]

Aryt, time to kill this once and for all...

Football-
You kick a BALL with a FOOT, anything else is intolerable via the rules, hence the name 'Football'

Soccer-
Oval ball, hardly any kicking, popular in america, CHEAP AMERICAN RIP-OFF... WITH LATEX SUITS!

anyone who think soccer is football needs to look at the rules...

[BTOG46]

Originally posted by TheDreamSlayer:
Aryt, time to kill this once and for all...

<STRIKE>Football-</STRIKE> Soccer
You kick a BALL with a FOOT, anything else is intolerable via the rules, hence the name <STRIKE>'Football'</STRIKE> Soccer (Common name, Football)

<STRIKE>Soccer-</STRIKE> American Football
Oval ball, hardly any kicking, popular in america, CHEAP AMERICAN RIP-OFF... WITH LATEX SUITS!

anyone who think soccer is football needs to look at the rules...
Uhm, you got the names wrong, but I corrected that for you. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[TheDreamSlayer]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil old man

[BTOG46]

hehehe, I try hard to be.......... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

[TheDreamSlayer]

as it were, you try too hard

[BTOG46]

Can I help it if I have a natural talent for evil........... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

[TheDreamSlayer]

You coundl't be more evil if you tried http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[minigunn]

OK let's try this: World Cup of Football vs. Superbowl Champs. Each team wears its normal gear, and the ball gets changed out at half time of the game. Scoring will be the Euro version, (Big Fat Net 4 metres tall). No subs on either team, injured players carried off and game continues. Who wins?
That's right, you know it!

[BTOG46]

It would be even more fun if the teams swapped equipment, I wonder how the Superbowl Champs would manage without their all their body armour.............. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif