********BIG IDEA FOR RAINBOW SIX: VEGAS****************

[OMAR617]

I HAVE HEARD PEOPLE SAY THAT RAINBOW SIX: VEGAS IS THE BEST GAME FROM TOM CLANCY EVER MADE YET.....

BUT I HAVE ALSO HEARD THAT THEY MISS THE BLACK ARROW MAPS AS WELL. SO I WAS THINKING YOU GUYS COULD MAKE A "RETRO GAME PACK" FOR THE RAINBOW SIX: VEGAS FANS AND BRING BACK SOME OR ALL OF THE MAPS FROM RAINBOW SIX: BLACK ARROW, AND RAINBOWSIX 3 LIKE AIRPORT,PRESIDIO,CARNAVAL,GARAGE AND ALL OF THE OTHER LOVED MAPS OF THE RAINBOW SIX CLASSICS. I BRING THE WORD TO YOU!!!!!!! MAKE THIS A REALITY TO ALL OF THE RAINBOWSIX FANS WHO WANT THIS. MAKE THE "RETRO GAME PACK" AND BRING BACK OUR FAVORITE MAPS BACK INTO ACTION ON THE XBOX360.


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[TW_Night_Fox]

That would be great! But Ubi if you do it build it on the same chasis as BA Not Vegas. Just add some new maps weapons and up the graphics. theres a billion dollars right there!
Call it rainbow Six 3 Retro, basicly an expasion of BA No gimmicks pease! rappeling, cover mode and snake cam ruin R6 this can be for the Old school R6 players and Vegas can be for the new school kiddies. Also no PEC just a head gear selection like GRAW. PEC hogs bandwith and lags the game.

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[AhhThisMiteHurt]

I think it would be awesome if they could address all the current issues first before adding more maps in.

Personally I think they are utterly swamped addressing what is CURRENTLY WRONG to be even able to get the modeling team to work on new maps and get those Q/A'd and out the door as DLC.

Here's a popular rundown of bugs/features:

BUGS

1. If you create a player match and the map changes at some point, you can no longer invite friends and people can't join on your name any longer. The only workaround we've seen is to make the host a "preferred player" using "submit player review" and then suddenly you can now join on their session.

2. If you create a Player Match with a lobby game-start timer, then end the game and create a Ranked Match, the "hidden" (you can't change it in match settings) lobby game-start timer will still be active and start the game at the specified interval. You have to abandon the game and go back to Player Match, remove the game-start timer and then go back and create your Ranked Match.

3. Sometimes when fast switching to a weapon by holding Y and the D-Pad, you will drop all weapons and be unable to pickup or use any weapons. Essentially running around unarmed.


FEATURE CHANGES

1. Give host the ability to swap a player's team.

2. Give host the ability to swap spawns or create a toggle for it in match settings.

3. Give host the ability to ban more than 5 items, including categories of items.

4. Make proximity chat a toggle for any game mode.

5. Give the host the ability to "Abort Game" if it is a Player Match and return to the Lobby.


6. Give players the ability to change armor/clothing in the lobby/map or apply it to
a pre-select template that is saved and they can choose per-map.

7. Give us armor that degrades over damage taken. Degrade rate should be equal to rounds taken/strength of weapon used against armor.

8. Give us realistic helmets:

a. Basic helmet protects against some SMG fire and pistols but degrades after a hit or two.
b. Unlock helmets give better protection against higher .cal weapons or can withstand a bit more fire but degrade/take direct deaths from certain snipers/LMG rounds, etc.

9. Balance the weapons better:

a. SMG's are too powerful and have too much range.
b. AR's are uneven compared to each other and don't stack up much against SMG's.
c. Shotguns pattern too tight/deadly at long ranges.
d. XM-LSS autoshotgun is too powerful.
e. SPAS-12 is OK but fires accurately too far.
f. Sniper rifles need to be one-shot kills on no-armor/light-armor/medium-armor targets.
g. Sniper rifles need a motion-blur in the scope when moving about until it is settled and you are "accurate"
h. LMG's are far too inaccurate at very close to medium range and the damage is WAAYYYYYY off. They are about worthless, and I've never seen anyone consistantly use the best LMG's in the game like the MG36 or the SAW. The SAW should not recoil as hard as an M636, and we are talking about heavy weapons that are pretty damn stable for an experienced operator to use in a kneeling position. Or, at least give the ability to mount them on a wall or ledge, or lay them up against something if there is no prone. Why even include such a gimped weapon? Sure it sprays all over but it hits nothing, and the enemies know it so they don't even take cover- they run right through it all and own you with a pistol or submachine gun that is basically a laser-gun.


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[TW_Night_Fox]

This is not "Patch Issues" or "Must have multiplayer features" this is about a R6 Retro pack. (And please don't copy and paste from other threads)<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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[S.U.Z.U.K.I]

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[Ostepop]

Originally posted by OMAR617:
I HAVE HEARD PEOPLE SAY THAT RAINBOW SIX: VEGAS IS THE BEST GAME FROM TOM CLANCY EVER MADE YET.....



Youve only talked with morons then, Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear is the best tom clancy game ever made..

[akedo29]

This is not "Patch Issues" or "Must have multiplayer features" this is about a R6 Retro pack. (And please don't copy and paste from other threads)

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i agree... however asking the devs for ANYTHING besides fixing the major problems inherent is a bit silly... i would LOVE to see a retro map pack (for this game) but i want THIS game fixxed first! Before you do anything else. i dont want to see any DLC before we see a MAJOR patch! but for after that i would like to see...
Cafe
Airport 1&2
Embassy(old school one)
garage
OLD CITY!!
pumping station
wharehouse
i will think of more......

[TW_Night_Fox]

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[DredlyLB]

I'd like the thank Ahhthismitehurt for giving us the BRIEF list of issues... the real list is 3x as long

[TW_Night_Fox]

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[navyredman]

Originally posted by TW_Night_Fox:
That would be great! But Ubi if you do it build it on the same chasis as BA Not Vegas. Just add some new maps weapons and up the graphics. theres a billion dollars right there!
Call it rainbow Six 3 Retro, basicly an expasion of BA No gimmicks pease! rappeling, cover mode and snake cam ruin R6 this can be for the Old school R6 players and Vegas can be for the new school kiddies. Also no PEC just a head gear selection like GRAW. PEC hogs bandwith and lags the game.

My 2 cents

That would be so awesome. I wouldn't mind having rappeling though. It would be pretty sweet to rappel in "wharehouse"

For the love of all that's good and all your old true fans, please give us a R63 retro. Ya know, don't even update the graffics, just release it in the live arcarde.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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[navyredman]

Youve only talked with morons then, Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear is the best tom clancy game ever made..

I think R63 is the best multi player ubi game. Then again, I never played any of the PC versions multi player.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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[navyredman]

Originally posted by TW_Night_Fox:
I was talking about a whole <STRIKE>new</STRIKE> [wait new R6 is bad] I mean old game.

I'm tellin ya. XBOX Live arcade release. No graffics updates or anything. Straight to the HDD without any single player campaign. Just the multiplayer maps. That would be so awesome.

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[TW_Night_Fox]

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[germ1234]

quoting myself:

"in the game, violence is there, but sex is missing. i think there should be a mission that features reconnaissance like in raven shield. you do this alone after a halo insertion onto the rooftop of a mansion in the Caribeans. with the take cover feature this should work very well.

you evade patrolling body guards and hide inside bathrooms and closets. the heartbeat sensor and gps device will be standard equipment for this mission. the objectives could be to plant bugs and steal intel. there will be numerous hiden objectives so there can be so replay value.

during this mission, you should be able to study movement patterns and observe via snakecam a sex scene between the master and his mistress."

[TW_Night_Fox]

I would like upped graphics (not dramaticly, more like GR2) that would be fine and custom weapons. (only like ACOG or EOTech though no sniper scopes. Maybe a taclight too) Please include these weapons

1.HK416
2.SCAR-L
3.M4 commando
4.M4 carbine
5.C7A2
6.MP5 SD (built in surpressors are queiter)

Please Do Not include these weapons

1. XM8 (it doesent exist)
2.MP7 (PDWs are not used to Counter Terror)
3.MP9 (see reason above)
4.XM-26 LSS (Its fake(the way its dipicted in this game))

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[cruz071870]

Originally posted by TW_Night_Fox:
That would be great! But Ubi if you do it build it on the same chasis as BA Not Vegas. Just add some new maps weapons and up the graphics. theres a billion dollars right there!
Call it rainbow Six 3 Retro, basicly an expasion of BA No gimmicks pease! rappeling, cover mode and snake cam ruin R6 this can be for the Old school R6 players and Vegas can be for the new school kiddies. Also no PEC just a head gear selection like GRAW. PEC hogs bandwith and lags the game.

My 2 cents

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[Qarle]

Great idea but don't expect Ubi to go for it, but still a great concept

[S.U.Z.U.K.I]

Originally posted by germ1234:
quoting myself:

"in the game, violence is there, but sex is missing. i think there should be a mission that features reconnaissance like in raven shield. you do this alone after a halo insertion onto the rooftop of a mansion in the Caribeans. with the take cover feature this should work very well.

<span class="ev_code_RED">you evade patrolling body guards and hide inside bathrooms and closets.</span> the heartbeat sensor and gps device will be standard equipment for this mission. <span class="ev_code_RED">the objectives could be to plant bugs and steal intel.</span> there will be numerous hiden objectives so there can be so replay value.

during this mission, you should be able to study movement patterns and observe via snakecam a sex scene between the master and his mistress."



I'm so glad they didn't put these stealth missions in R6V. I hated Penthouse in R63. If I wanted to sneak around I would buy Splinter Cell. Penthouse mission was unplayable online except for TH. I played Critical Hour and when I got to the stealth mission I turned off the game and traded it in.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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[Gr1MReapeRAK]

Well...there's always been at least one stealth mission in every R6 game. When they got frustrating I would just go into observer mode so I could watch for patrols and tell my guy when to go or hold position. Of course, you don't really have that option in the console games...

Man, I really miss the planning, observing missions to see how well your plan works, and having replays that I could save and watch (from the early R6 games and Ghost Recon).

[S.U.Z.U.K.I]

Originally posted by Gr1MReapeRAK:
Well...<span class="ev_code_RED">there's always been at least one stealth mission in every R6 game</span>. When they got frustrating I would just go into observer mode so I could watch for patrols and tell my guy when to go or hold position. Of course, you don't really have that option in the console games...

Man, I really miss the planning, observing missions to see how well your plan works, and having replays that I could save and watch (from the early R6 games and Ghost Recon).


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[texasironhorse]

Sounds like a good idea. Maybe we should start posting on these forums in French since the game was made in Montreal or some place up there. Maybe then they will listen.

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[MoPayn]

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