thunder.....Flash, come on in!

[Karabiner_409]

I was watching Saving Private Ryan last night, and to my dismay instead of saying Flash...to be replyed with Thunder, they say it vice/versa. Surely Tom Hanks and Stephen Spielberg...being war buffs, and having read many-a-Stephen Ambrose book, would know that this was Flash...Thunder. SURELY Dale Dye would know this.
Its all fine and well saying that they could say either, but surely it would have been too confusing? Anyone have input?

[gustave.jany]

Ye THis is interesting!
Now! I had a website (**** I FORGOT THE ADDRESS bob related) which showed all mthe callsigns for the D-Day invasion for Allied troops.
And it showed that the 101st used I think Flash-Thunder and the infantry (rangers or something) used the vise/versa.
I try to find the website for you

[Karabiner_409]

ah cheers!

[Dori1234]

are you kidding me! me and my friends (all 13 years old) snuck into the movies becuase they were having a charity night and we weren't old enough and they were playing saving private ryan and it had really good special affects (iv already seen it but not in like a theater)and other stuff but that was like the only part in the movie were I was like "huh?" because I thought it was wrong

[comedy_watcher]

I think gustave.jany is correct, anyway Dale Dye makes a lot of mistakes.

[Karabiner_409]

Yeah there is wee snippits in all things, with his name on it, that are wrong. It aint drastically huge things like saying Overlord was at Calais. But its wee things just like Thunder/Flash, that count.

[gustave.jany]

I still cant find that bloody websit http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
It was related with Band of Brothers that i know.

[Raccoon_2]

I hope once there would be a great site in which all WW2 info can be found http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Basher66]

Wrong

Flash-thunder was the D Day challenge for most everyone.

After D Day it went to Jack-rabbit and changed many many times there after. Thunder-flash is what we call a movieism

[Karabiner_409]

is it possible that dale dye, or tom hanks, or even stphen ambrose would let them change it just for the sake of the movie?? im sure there is at least some logical explination for it.

[Raccoon_2]

Originally posted by Basher66:
Wrong

Flash-thunder was the D Day challenge for most everyone.

After D Day it went to Jack-rabbit and changed many many times there after. Thunder-flash is what we call a movieism

Is that a thought or have you seen this information somewhere?

[Basher66]

Flash-Thunder was only valid on (or maybe D+1, since some units were still lost)

Its fact, though I got my words messed up. here is the info as I got it off a memo from an officer of the 505th in WWII:
From D+1 to D+2 it was "Thirsty - Victory", from D+3 to D+6 "Weapon-Throat", and from D+7 to D+9 "Wool - Rabbit".

[Tomus]

Thunder-Flash wouldn't make sense, it would be a silly password to use, Flash-Thunder makes more sense. Passwords should not defy logical sense otherwise they can be confused. Flash would always proceed Thunder. It would be like having a password of Down - up or surface - dive

[Iceking55]

It's because the rangers used it the opposite way from the paratroopers, it not wrong.

[Dori1234]

but Tomus still has a very good point

[Karabiner_409]

Hold up. In the film its an Airborne trooper who says "thunder" followed by another saying "flash, come on in". Its that bald comedian guy who playes him, from the film Sideways. So that blows Iceking55's theory out the water.

[ACEofSPADES705]

Originally posted by Iceking55:
It's because the rangers used it the opposite way from the paratroopers, it not wrong.

Ummm...No..Sorry.

And besides, the password 'Flash-Thunder' was only used on D-day, it changed every other day. I believe D+3 was 'Cut throat-Victory'?

[Hartsock1982]

ive also found another mistake in saving private ryan. remeber at the end when the tiger tanks come in at the end...well the the tank's wheels and tracks actully belong to a russian t34 tank

[Dori1234]

correct. I read on some website that they couldn not fin any working panthers or tigers

[loptica]

here is alink for all mistakes in spr
http://www.moviemistakes.com/film1114

still, the first 15 mins are the best in war movie history...

one of the mistakes kinda has a good point about the whole storyline:
"Factual error: Even given the disasterously inaccurate airdrops, the 101st Airborne landed 15 to 20 miles closer to Utah beach than to Omaha beach, where Miller and men came ashore. By the end of June 6, most of the 101st was scattered in pockets near Vierville, easily twenty miles west of Omaha but within a mile or two of the lead elements from Utah. So why would commanders in Washington or England order Omaha units, which had been badly mauled on D-Day, to slog so far out of their way to find Ryan? Units from Omaha would have had to cross four enemy-held rivers and pass through almost all of the German 84th Corps to come close to any significant group of U.S. paratroopers"

[punjisticks]

Actually, they are Russian T-34's. Some of the former satellite communist countries had old stock piles of T-34's that they were eager to sell. A few were purchased by Spielberg and were mocked up to look like Tigers from the hull up. There use to be a site that actually showed the Hollywood process of converting a T-34 into a Tiger. There is only one working Tiger Tank that was actually restored to working order and it's located at the Bovington Tank Museum in England. It took a pretty long time to restore it.

[Karabiner_409]

those T-34's were the same used in band of brothers. they had to extend it though right?

[synchro_w]

yeh, the moment i saw those tigers in the film i thought.. "no way! too small... much much too small".
michael wittman and others are photo'd standing next to or on top of the tiger IE and it gives you a good impression of just how monstrous these things were. they were BIG. it certainly would not be easy to climb up onto a moving tiger [wasn't the height of just the hull 6feet or more?].

the T34 is far smaller. even the T34-85 is dwarfed by the Pzkpfwgn VIE [the 85 had a bigger turret to incorporate the 85mm gun]. so when i saw it in the movie i thought.. no. shame.
but still it looks a lot beter than them using a bloody M60 or summat!

das

[El_Core]

Originally posted by Dori1234:
are you kidding me! me and my friends (all 13 years old) snuck into the movies becuase they were having a charity night and we weren't old enough and they were playing saving private ryan and it had really good special affects (iv already seen it but not in like a theater)and other stuff but that was like the only part in the movie were I was like "huh?" because I thought it was wrong

I agree with this guy.

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