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Kyrsk
08-05-2005, 10:22 PM
Hi everyone,

Okay, I am considering getting SH3 as I am really intrigued by the game pics. I love sub games, but I am going to need to do some serious upgrading on my system to make this game work. For those who have this game, I'm wondering what the replay value of it is like? Do you like rip through the game and then it sucks to play it again because you know where all the ships are? The last sub game I bought (years and years ago - so don't laugh) was Tom Clancy's SSN and I was quite happy with that game. Anyway, I would appreciate anyone's comments in helping me make a decision. Thanks in advance!!!

stljeffbb
08-05-2005, 10:53 PM
Hi Kyrsk.....

I would say yes, buy this game......

I've played computer games for 15 years, and I consider it one of the top ten I've played.

The game does have good replay value IMHO. I'm especially impressed with the mod community associated with this game. They have added A LOT to the choices that are possible. If you want "realism," there are mods...if you want a more causal game, you can play it right out of the box (with the 1.4b patch).

I've not had many similar experiences in gaming to searching for a merchant by hydrophone for hours (days in game time), finally having one come in range, doing all of the things to line it up just right, and then sinking....or missing it! All of the anticipation makes me appreciate what the crews went through...probably 100x the game....

....but that's what I like most....when a game helps me to appreciate reality.....doesn't happen too much, but this game (with my favorite mods) does it....

Happy Hunting

-Jeff

Teddy Bar
08-05-2005, 10:57 PM
SHIII is the best. SHIII is a work of art, wonderfully done and a credit to the Dev Team.

The not so great is that the AI is only OK and in some places more of a placeholder. The merchant AI and the lack of a 'Coastal Command' and better escort AI make for a turkey shoot.

It does however have some increadable features such as the manual TDC.

The graphics are something else to see and will have you going ooooh even after many months of play.

For me, the AI make this game a less than challenging excercise, that in the end means that sinking a ship is a unrewarding excerise. Not all feel this way.

You should also be aware that this product contains StarForce. A surpossed anti piracy software that installs hidden device drivers in system. StarForce stops you from making a legal backup of your software, so should the disk fail you will be forced to buy another one.

I do say 'surpossed anti pricacy' as I have a cousin who has a pirated copy of SHIII. So it only stops you, the legal owner from protecting your own investment.

StarForce is also reputed to cause hardware issues by the way it accesses the device, I feel that this claim is valid. I also experienced profile (I my profile for the domain) issues that coincided with the use of SHIII. Of course these issues have not occured for everyone, or maybe even many people, however it did for me.

In the end, SHIII is an increadable leap forward with the Mods by the Subsim Mod team taking it to a higher level.

You can read my review, found by going to the link in my signature.

Yen Lo
08-05-2005, 10:59 PM
I like the minute for minute aspect of the game, you could literally take 6 years to play this game, with some adjustments. tho the 2 week storms get old. Still its a great game. I know games that took 21 patches and hotfixes, to run. Its a great game.

stljeffbb
08-05-2005, 11:05 PM
Hi Teddy Bar......

Ah, so that's what StarForce is....I've read about it, but wasn't sure what it was....I assume StarForce only prevents copies of SHIII, not any other programs....

Also, we really don't own these games...I do believe the End User Licsense Agreement stipulates that we are merely users of the software, not owners. I don't agree with this idea for various reasons, but its the world we live in...we could all rise up against it, but more than likely we will just go with the flow, and then one day when the powers that be want to pull the plug, they will claim that everything we own has an EULA.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

-Jeff

rls669
08-05-2005, 11:06 PM
In response to Teddy's post, I don't believe pirated copies of SH3 can be patched -- I've looked at every Starforce hack I could find and none of them could deal with the newer versions of Starforce found in SH3 1.1 and above.

As far as replayability goes, if you like the basic gameplay, it'll probably never get boring. And SH3 is definitely the kind of game that you'll load up 3 years from now to see what it looks like at 1600x1200 with 16x anti-aliasing, and ooh and ahh over it all over again.

blue_76
08-05-2005, 11:10 PM
i've bought many games or sims. sh3 is one of the few that is worth every penny.

Cpt_Walrus
08-06-2005, 12:08 AM
SH3 is the best game I ever played in terms of replay value..enough said http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif...

Beeryus
08-06-2005, 01:08 AM
I was trying to recall a better game, but I've never played a better simulation than SH3. As far as all game genres are concerned, KotOR beats it by a whisker, but KotOR didn't have the replay value nor did it have the flexibility of SH3 when it comes to mods, so I think eventually SH3 will be the ultimate winner.

Funkasoar
08-06-2005, 01:25 AM
This game is the closest you'll get to a reallife experience on a computer and a replayable one too. Unlike other war games it isn't scripted in the slightest. The only quasi-scripted things are the single missions and they are still wide open. It is a game built for the users. It is the best game I've ever paid full price for. Between gameplay and graphics few games come out of the box being excellent and then have a community that makes it even better. This game will remain on your hard drive until the next SIlent Hunter iteration is complete.

If you don't get this game you'll miss out. Art. This is gaming art. Just be warned. Don't expect to enjoy any relationships with the other sex. This game owns your life like it did the lives of the real U-Boat men.

Maj_Solo
08-06-2005, 02:00 AM
Definitely. You buy it when the price is right for you. If you hesitate, don't buy it until you hesitate no more.

bunkerratt
08-06-2005, 03:04 AM
i came from flight sim communities..this is the most awsome sim i have ever ran...

Budokan
08-06-2005, 07:40 AM
If you're into subsims you'll be very satisfied with SH3. It has great graphics, excellent interface, super modding community and a replayability value that can't be topped.

Good hunting!

DiveDevil
08-06-2005, 09:37 AM
I concur with everthing thats been said. If you like sims and love sub then this is the game for you. Sure its got bugs all programs have bugs and some of them have been patched but not all of them. So of us have been able to look past these bugs and keep on living the double lives of U-boat Captains. If you like what you see from screenshots just wait till you actually play this it will blow your britches off! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif and don't expect to get anything else don't for the next couple months. I've been playing this sim almost every day for the last two + months and it's far from getting boring for me. Trust what being said this is a very cool sim. Its what a lot of sub sim fans have been waiting their whole live for. Look forward to hearing about your exploits in these forums.
Good Hunting.

magick1971
08-06-2005, 10:05 AM
Yes! This is one of the best games there ishttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Kyrsk
08-06-2005, 10:49 AM
Hey everyone,

Just wanted to pass on my thanks for all the info!!! Everyone was extremely helpful!!! It seems like I can't go wrong with this one. Well, off to get some new hardware to juice up my system and then dive, dive, dive!!! Thanks again!!!!

harryrriedl
08-06-2005, 11:56 AM
[i came from flight sim communities..this is the most awsome sim i have ever ran...]
me too i came from il2 to sh3 the diffrences was amazing one of the best sim i ever played

Hawggy
08-06-2005, 12:06 PM
Both IL-2 and Silent Hunter are sweeter than British candy to the simulation community. Any chap who calls himself a simmmer would be anything but that without SH3 in their library. Buy it proudly man - it's an awesome value. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

joeap
08-06-2005, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by Yen Lo:
I like the minute for minute aspect of the game, you could literally take 6 years to play this game, with some adjustments. tho the 2 week storms get old. Still its a great game. I know games that took 21 patches and hotfixes, to run. Its a great game.

Yes it is, btw real storms did last two weeks sometimes and even more. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

KingBobo2005
08-06-2005, 12:21 PM
YES http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

VikingGrandad
08-06-2005, 01:06 PM
For many years I only played tactical shooters, first person shooters and real-time strategy games. SH3 is the first sim I have played in a very long time.

I had been reading some of the the many excellent historical books and websites about U-boats long before it was released, so when I read about SH3 and saw some screenshots I was well interested. When I heard that a campaign feature was going to be included, I pre-ordered it there and then.

I now give it more time than any other game I have ever owned. Not just playing it, but also tweaking it (loads of great free mods available) and reading / contributing to this forum.

The game has several minor faults (that most people can easily live with), which are more than compensated for by many excellent features that make it one of the best games I've ever played.

I say take the chance and buy it and upgrade your PC. In the unlikely event you don't like it that much, at least you'll have a more powerful PC you can play other modern games on http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Good hunting...

Mylo42
08-06-2005, 01:15 PM
I think if I was to do the math, SHIII has cost me about 5 cents an hour to entertain myself immensely. Not bad value. Compare that to going to the movies at $20.00 for 90 min (that's cheap night too).

blastomatic1759
08-09-2005, 12:11 PM
well this game is good enough that when i came to work i realized that i left SH3 at home, and theres no way i am gonna go without it for 2 weeks while im on the boat, so i tied the boat up, got a ride to the mall , and bought another one. so i would say yeah i think its quite worthy of buying, maybe even 2.