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pavel44
05-12-2006, 12:17 PM
how about to make it more useful especially to heroes that are bad at magic it would also increase initiative of Machines by same amount?

TAPBG
05-12-2006, 12:23 PM
Well i dont think that might heroes will take that skill anyway.

phoenix_reb1973
05-12-2006, 12:26 PM
I have another idea . How about adding the old ( from H3) effect of this skill to the new one ? It could be very nice if this skill not only increase the speed of casting , but also the strengh of spells ... ( oh , well , may be I just want my favorite Malekith back http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

KingImp
05-12-2006, 01:24 PM
I'm actually a fan of Sorcery. Anything that helps my hero go faster is okay with me considering it seems to take forever for their turn to come around again. Making it affect the strength of spells like in Heroes 3 would be a welcome addition though.

I don't however care for the sub-abilities associated with Sorcery. They just don't excite me like the others do.

pavel44
05-12-2006, 02:21 PM
Does Sorcery work only when you cast spells? What about using special abilities?

red_12345
05-12-2006, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by pavel44:
Does Sorcery work only when you cast spells? What about using special abilities?

AFAIR (aka IIRC) it changes only the delay made by your spells (ie. it raises initiative of your spells). I am not sure about the second question, but I believe that the bonus only applies to spells exclusively.

Imo Sorcery is simply a great skill, especially for Warlock and Necromancer. It can easily reduce mana shortages that caster classes not specialised in Knowledge may encounter.

XyZspineZyX
05-12-2006, 08:25 PM
So how does it work? It increases initiative if you cast a spell, and hero gets to act faster the next time, or the initiative is permanently increased during the combat? What if the hero uses a special ability next time? Does the initiative increases when special abilities are used as well?

I know it's too many questions... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif

pavel44
05-12-2006, 09:39 PM
It should increase Hero's initiative no matter what he does and as a bonus increase Machines' initiative.

SandroTheMaster
05-13-2006, 01:19 AM
Might heroes have their own skills.

It works with special abilities like benediction and banshee howl.

TAPBG
05-13-2006, 01:27 AM
Im almost sure that works only with spells [and maybe skills like benediction,howl banshee]and doesnt when your hero just shoot to something.I check that with Jhora in the duels.

Goon66
05-13-2006, 01:36 AM
Originally posted by pavel44:
It should increase Hero's initiative no matter what he does and as a bonus increase Machines' initiative.

What logic brings you to that conclusion? Its name suggests it would only work with magic, its SKILLS mean only magic heroes will pick it and its aim is likely to increase the benefit of spell casting over attacking. Plus its strong enough already the machine boost useless and uneeded not to mention random

I do however hope it works on abilities especially counterpell
and btw does Jhoras special work only on spells or on abilities aswell?