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RMC.SBS
07-12-2005, 12:13 PM
Read this in todays Newspaper and felt like pulling whats left of my hair out.Mr Blair do something..

Abuse of Britain

JUST five days since 7/7 €" and the flagrant abuse of Britain€s freedom-of-speech laws is laid bare yet again.
Extremist Islamic scholar Tariq Ramadan, who backs suicide bombings, is to address a London conference part-funded by police.

This man€s suspected links with terrorists are strong enough for him to be banned from both America and France.

But in our bomb-hit capital he is being given a platform to speak €" while the victims of Britain€s worst terror atrocity wait to be buried.

Ramadan is no ranting Abu Hamza or Omar Bakri. He€s more dangerous than that.

He is a soft-spoken professor whose moderate tones present an acceptable, €œreasonable€ face of terror to impressionable young Muslims.

In one breath he condemns the horrors in London and Madrid. But through seemingly reasoned argu- ments he justifies similar attacks where Muslims are oppressed.

Ramadan has muddied the waters enough for the Met and ACPO to believe him a reasonable man. They should not be fooled.

And rank-and-file bobbies, who reacted with such extraordinary courage last Thursday, will rightly be outraged if the Force has any involvement with him.

Sponsoring community projects is entirely laudable. Giving the oxygen of publicity to an apologist for terrorism is not. Especially with the Tube and bus bombings so fresh in our minds.

The police must pull the plug without delay. And Home Secretary Charles Clarke must move swiftly to ban Professor Ramadan from our shores.

We don€t need scholars justifying suicide bombers and analysing for us the grievances that drive them.

We don€t need lectures on understanding the monsters who slaughtered innocent Londoners.

To hell with them. And to hell with this professor too.
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One more thing "BBC" bosses wanted the word "Terrorist" cut from news reports.
You couldn't make it up.

Demon_Mustang
07-13-2005, 01:43 PM
I don't think Tony Blair is really powerful enough to change the entire system in britain. Of course there's still that chance that's he's just too dumb to know that something needs to be changed, but I'm pretty sure that no one person has the power to reform the way the country is run. People will whine and cry about their "civil liberties" before they realize that once they're dead, all the civil liberties in the world will not help them.

I don't think even if Tony Blair wanted to change their freedom of speech laws and their immigration laws, I doubt he'll get much backing. The governing body there seems like they care about the security of their people as a very last priority.

It's funny because they are willing to put CCTV cameras everywhere, but they are not willing to tighten up their borders and arrest people with known ties to terrorists or at least publicly speaks inciting violence against the state.

ScrubberManFSJ
07-13-2005, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by Demon_Mustang:
Of course there's still that chance that's he's just too dumb to know that something needs to be changed,


Sure he is, look who he hangs around with...... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Demon_Mustang
07-13-2005, 08:53 PM
You really crack yourself up don't you?

I don't know about you, but some people actually take things seriously and do not let bias cloud their vision. Do you see me blindly supporting him simply because he has been an "ally" with Bush? No, but do you blindly go against him simply because he has?

Hell, do you even see me supporting everything Bush does? No, but do you blindly oppose everything he does?

Sometimes people need to stop and think about these contradictions to know themselves better. Namely you, and a few others.

It's great to have opinions, but at least be true to yourself and look at the facts and not at other people's opinions...

ScrubberManFSJ
07-13-2005, 10:44 PM
Are you implying something Demon? Did I mention any names, or are you just "the whole world is a gainst Bush" paranoid?

Demon_Mustang
07-14-2005, 11:55 AM
LMAO!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Oh please, you really think we are stupid don't you? I don't think anyone had any doubt what you meant by that statement. Now that you realized just how biased and unobjective it made you look, you're going to pretend you were talking about his golfing buddies. LOL, you're freakin hilarious buddy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Hornet57
07-14-2005, 12:11 PM
Scrubby you know I dont usually agree with anything Demon says but I have to agree with him on this one and you also know I am not a Bush supporter http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Demon_Mustang
07-14-2005, 10:29 PM
Lol, you **** right-wing nutjob in disguise!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif