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zgubilici
10-02-2006, 11:28 PM
Hello everyone http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Given the recent overabundance of threads similar in nature that speculate on the type of weapons that Altair may carry, how he will aquire them, who he can attack, what combat and stealth strategy he might use, etc., it is an opportune moment to gather all these discussions under one roof http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Please use this thread from now on to discuss and speculate on everything that is of interest to you on this particular range of topics.
All new threads that will be created from this moment on about these issues will be closed.

This will help prevent flooding the forum with a lot of threads similar in nature and it will also help bring all the ideas together in one place http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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DarkCrawler90
10-03-2006, 02:13 AM
Well, from what I have seen from trailers, pictures and info, his weapons include:

Sword
The Switchblade
Four daggers (Throwing?)
Crossbow and bolts (Crossbow can be used for striking too, at least in E3 trailer)

Drunkspleen
10-03-2006, 03:18 AM
In regards to the speculation over entering buildings which was redirected here.


You will probably be able to enter certain buildings but it's unlikely that all buildings are enterable. But it would be awesome if you could climb up in a house, open the window and hide or to steal things.

I'm pretty confident that if you are allowed to enter a building you will be able to access many buildings with appropriate consequences. In an E3 interview Jade Raymond said:


...We think you should be able to go everywhere. There shouldn't be these wierd arbitrary rules like why can I hold onto this thing? Why can I smash this door but not this door?...

While this probably does not indicate every building will be enterable at all times I think it's likely that when you are needed to enter a building you may well be able to go into any number of them while making your way to your target, for example climbing between two windows to get into the building you need to be in.

dsoihn
10-03-2006, 03:47 AM
regarding weapons, a true master assassins (atleast what I think) uses poisons to kill, stunn their target or gaurds. Even if I havent seen or heard anything about poisons in AC, I would love to be able to use it.

Think of sneaking into your targets house in the night and hear him coming down the stairs saying to himself that he wants a drink. U then run fast to a bottle of whine that u see on the table and poison it.
Scenarios like that would be awsome and now when Im writing this it make it even harder to wait for the game to be released.

Drunkspleen
10-03-2006, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by dsoihn:
regarding weapons, a true master assassins (atleast what I think) uses poisons to kill, stunn their target or gaurds. Even if I havent seen or heard anything about poisons in AC, I would love to be able to use it.

This is fairly unlikely considering the exaggeration that the developers have placed on thier consistency with historical accounts and information.

According to Wikipedia:


...they were careful to cultivate their terrifying reputation by slaying their victims in public, often in mosques. Typically they approached using a disguise; their weapon of choice was a dagger, rejecting poison, bows and other weapons that allowed the attacker to escape.

DarkCrawler90
10-03-2006, 05:15 AM
Yeah, I think they thought that poisons were not honorable way to kill your target.

Illuminatus_85
10-03-2006, 06:41 AM
all hail zgubilici http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

dsoihn
10-03-2006, 06:52 AM
what about the switchblade then? was it used by the assassins under the third crusade or is this weapon something that the AC team made up to improve the game and make Altair cooler.

quicksilver_502
10-03-2006, 01:20 PM
i havent seen him any throwing any knives

dodd006
10-03-2006, 04:35 PM
crossbows wud b kinda cool but it cud gt 2 easy. you'd have no escape after u killed someone if u killed them on a roof where they can't see u. dnt u think?

Drunkspleen
10-04-2006, 03:45 AM
Originally posted by dsoihn:
what about the switchblade then? was it used by the assassins under the third crusade or is this weapon something that the AC team made up to improve the game and make Altair cooler.

I think the switchblade is a bit of creative freedom on the part of ubisoft but it does fit with the historical aspect pretty well.


I havent seen him any throwing any knives

On one of the desktops available on the Assassin's Creed site he has 4 on his belt... thing. Might be in other pictures too.

Expired_Exile
10-04-2006, 09:23 AM
You have to remember guys... The Assassin's most Important Weapon is his stealth. .. and then his feet to get the hella outta there. =P

tisfortunesfall
10-04-2006, 02:18 PM
How about something such as a pouch/pocket of pepper to blind and/or choke your opponent which could give you the opening to launch a fatal attack. Also what about a cloth soaked in ether if you're looking to take a less sadistic approach to your gameplay, and there's a chance you might be rewarded for keeping the death toll low. Also likely to make it into the game is a garotte a la the Hitman games. Lastly, from the gameplay shown thus far it seems that Altair wears a gauntlet of some sort with a built in retractable blade.

tress-jr
10-05-2006, 01:55 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif the "retractable blade" is the switchblade wich everyone know about already...its in the diary everything http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

spyda_444
10-06-2006, 12:51 AM
i think there should be some sort of rag you can get ( of course its soaked in oil )

then you can pick up a flaming tourch theres bound to be some sort of thing like that at night

and walla a molotove already!

Impact93
10-06-2006, 01:29 AM
Simpler is better I'd say, gimme a switchblade and some awesome phsycal abilitys *realisitc* and im happy.

tress-jr
10-06-2006, 10:51 PM
ummm i watch the trailer like 50 million times and i realize something about the crossbow. I dont think its actually his cause after stabing the guard he doesn't put it back on his back he drops on the ground..proof.. he does not have it in the rest of the video

but now that i remember he has the quiever so...
neway let me know what you think about that...

Illuminatus_85
10-07-2006, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by spyda_444:
i think there should be some sort of rag you can get ( of course its soaked in oil )

then you can pick up a flaming tourch theres bound to be some sort of thing like that at night

and walla a molotove already!


lol, cool, but highly unlikely http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Impact93
10-07-2006, 12:40 PM
In keeping with the realisim of the game, i would say its very likely that a crossbow would be included, however i would surmize by the premis of the game that shooting sombody from a long distance with the bow in order to complete your mission would be highly unlikely. Perhaps the arrows could have a sleeping agent on the tips or perhaps you can attach water bags to the arrows and put out torches (yes they acutally had those) It has been stated however that this game relies less on dynamic shadow stealth and more on social stealth. (walking thru open crowds, dissapearing in a mass of monks) that kinda thing. I suppose the arrows could be extreemly weak and give your position away every single time therefore making them pointless unless a guard is by himself at a doorway that you need to get into. As for the bow itself, it should really only be good for meelee atacks, not actualy killing somone.

but we'll see i suppose. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

my question is: whats to keep you from just standing on the rooftops not even moving....just staring down at all the gaurds looking up at you....laughing....i hope the gaurds can access you on the rooftops via weapons somehow, it would defently lend a sence of urgancy to the game.

Illuminatus_85
10-07-2006, 12:45 PM
well it's probably going to be impossible escaping a city by just running on rooftops

the guards will follow u from the ground, and if u stand still they'll probably break down the door to access the roof or have archers cloud the sun with arrows aimed towards u

Impact93
10-07-2006, 12:48 PM
This is my hope as well.

Drunkspleen
10-08-2006, 09:18 PM
Yeah the impression that I am given is that the whole escape sequence revolves around split second decisions and you don't really get time to stand around working out exactly what you are going to do next.

Assassin_Altair
10-09-2006, 06:50 PM
Ive got a question for you guys. I know that there is a button for attacking with a weapon such as his sword, but when you press this button does he just swing/slash in some random direction like most previous games or can you move the sword in a chosen direction with one of the analog sticks like in a few of the Star Wars games with their lightsabres? Any info would be great. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

The_Smo_Show
10-09-2006, 08:18 PM
good question

JN006
10-09-2006, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by Drunkspleen:
Yeah the impression that I am given is that the whole escape sequence revolves around split second decisions and you don't really get time to stand around working out exactly what you are going to do next.

Maybe in the first part of the mission (finding your target), verifying the best escape route should be something that help you out a little later?!

Drunkspleen
10-10-2006, 04:46 AM
Originally posted by JN006:
Maybe in the first part of the mission (finding your target), verifying the best escape route should be something that help you out a little later?!

Definitely an important part, but with the crowd AI I imagine it will be just as important to be able to roll with the punches as to have a solid plan because you never know whether a road might be blocked by NPCs.

JN006
10-10-2006, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by Drunkspleen:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JN006:
Maybe in the first part of the mission (finding your target), verifying the best escape route should be something that help you out a little later?!

Definitely an important part, but with the crowd AI I imagine it will be just as important to be able to roll with the punches as to have a solid plan because you never know whether a road might be blocked by NPCs. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Of course... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
But with the huge maps, we should definitly try to verify where are the anchor point and easely accesible building for our escape.

spyda_444
10-10-2006, 11:17 AM
ow with the getaways do you think that if you used parkour to get onto the roofs would men follow you up and maybe fall down? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

tisfortunesfall
10-13-2006, 08:02 AM
Switchblade? Wouldn't that retract at a 180 degree angle where as the blade seen in the trailers thus far is more like a dagger that comes out in a straight line, also the chances are that it locks once fully retracted and that it's built into a gauntlet to provide strength to the blade and safety for the cogs and springs. Lastly a switchblade which comes out at a 180 degree angle would easily snap and, would be more limited in use then the type i described above due to its wide retracting angle and mutiple parts of the blade.

chewie1890
10-13-2006, 09:38 AM
Is this really that big of deal tisfortunesfall? I mean he was just stating that everyone knew what it was and that everyone just identified it as a switchblade, its really not necessary to go into this nitpicky grammatical correctness thing on a forum about a videogame.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Bluberry_Muffin
10-13-2006, 10:11 AM
Don't forget he also has a sword for when he gets cornered and HAS to fight. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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tisfortunesfall
10-13-2006, 03:09 PM
I suppose you're right, i just felt the need to clarify my earlier post. In regards to Altair's sword he might end up having a longsword and also a shortsword in his off-hand to give him a added advantage when fighting greater numbers. Also has anyone given thought to Altair's having a variety of exotic weapons from all over the world such as a net, katana, sai, or Jutte, the last two of which would partically suit A's counter-attacking style of combat.

Erilith
10-13-2006, 04:40 PM
Not forgetting that they're keeping as close to history as possible. As handy as those weapons would be, I doubt they'd have been readily accessable.

Also with regards to the cross bow, it looks very small. Typical bows are 6ft long, cross bows are a bit shorter. A cross bow that size would really be used from short to medium range. With this I doubt you'd be effectively able to take out a target from a rooftop with a small cross bow. Still, having it to pick off a guard or two before your contact would leave one or two left to escape from.
With regards to the strapped blades (throwing possibly), i'm hoping these could be used as distractions, as well as weapons. Throw them against a wall, it makes a noise! Guard goes walk about to check it out.
But then thats more the sneaky stealth...

Anyway...

killerassassind
10-14-2006, 11:46 AM
in assassins can you kill who ever you want or only the pepole your suppose to assassinate

Tobbe777
10-14-2006, 12:20 PM
I think you can kill whoever you want. At least guards.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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ashishgurung
10-14-2006, 02:00 PM
There was a interview with Jade Raymond(producer of the game), and it is said that combat system will be different from the traditional like POP, because there are no combos to perform, square is your hand with weapon, and circle is you another hand without a weapon, and X controls the feet, and you have to combine all those moves...it's new but we'll manage to play it anyway. And there are no level design, we can move around with complete freedom, "Whatever looks interactive, should be interactive".....and talking of weapons...it's lethal and exciting.....I can't wait<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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KnightTemplar45
10-18-2006, 01:37 PM
yea, I hope you can use any weapon, but from what it looks like only the switchblade is used for assassination since it's a little stealthier than walking up to the target with a broadsword in your hand. I'm hoping that you can acquire different swords (scimitar,longsword, maybe an unlockable katana for kicks and giggles)and store them in safe houses I've heard about through out the map. And in regards to posts about just sitting on the rooftops while the guards stare at you from the ground, i remember seeing somewhere that the guards, although not as acrobatic as you, can follow you onto the rooftops and jump from roof to roof. Also I noticed that in the on-stage demo, before he uses the "intuitution" to locate his target an icon of an eye appears in the top right, it also apperas as he walks past the target in the group of monks. This might mean that once you're near your target this will appear. So you don't really to need to search around and listen to people's conversations to find him. Just walk around and watch for the icon. Hope I'm wrong cause that would ruin the game for me. (not really I'd still get it)<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Maximus1170
10-18-2006, 03:19 PM
I think the eye is probably a visibility indicator, kind of like one one in Fable, only this one appears when the target is looking at you.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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SHADOWRIDERJP
10-19-2006, 06:43 PM
I realy dont think it would matter much if it went into auto kill after you press the assinate button on someone couse after you kill you run like heck and by the ingame footage I think the assination of your targets is animized or whatever its called http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

ArgonAsimov
10-19-2006, 09:12 PM
It seems that the wrist blade is the signiture weapon of the Assassin's guild, and because historically, they made it a point to kill thier targets up close in broad daylight with a crowd watching, it's likely that all your real assassinations (rather than random killings) will require you to kill with this weapon.

As Shadowrider mentioned, the actual kill seems to be scripted and animated, signifying that you have complted the mission succesfully and also that you satisfied the guilds guidelines for the kill.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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TypeFour
10-19-2006, 10:56 PM
The actual kill would most likely be automatic after you press the button; it's not supposed to be anything like Oblivion or GTA. In both of those, you and enemies alike can take tons of hits and still keep going. With AC, you'll be lucky if a single blow isn't fatal.

On that note, it's obvious that they're emphaisizing a real individual can't take multiple whacks with a sword and keep going, but is every blow likely to be fatal, or can Altair simply become injured, say if he's cut on the arm. Could add a whole new element where you have to tend to inujuries acquired during the escape, although that could get a bit tedious.

quicksilver_502
10-20-2006, 12:45 PM
in the x06 trailer he gets hit a couple of times before he dies

chewie1890
10-20-2006, 01:43 PM
I just watched it again and I didn't see him actually get hit I saw him blocking a whole lot though.

I don't think every hit will be fatal. Jade said at one point or another that a FATAL blow will be just that, fatal. So I assume their going the same with what would be considered a non fatal attack.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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chewie1890
10-21-2006, 01:09 PM
I'm pretty sure you can kill who you want, that would add to the realism. From what I have read you're supposed to escape to the Assassins Base, I might be wrong about this though. You might just have to stay out of sight for an ammount of time and then they give up. I think after you do a kill though that if they see you ANYWHERE that the chase will resume. Like I said i'm not positive about this its just things from what i've read and what I speculate.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RetiredHatch
10-21-2006, 01:44 PM
Yea you should be able to kill anytime anywhere and do whatcha want i read somewhere they were talkin about if you just walk up to a fruit cart or whatever and break it they'll get mad if you can do that randomly you should be able to kill randomly too and the fact that you push people with the nonweapon hand well it'd make sense if you hit the weapon button he'd pull out his blade and slash at them that makes sense to me x.x

and about the assassination you HAVE to use the switchblade to kill the main guy person because that's just how they did it and that's what i read too XD but yea i read somewhere that they rarely ever strayed from their "ritualistic dagger" to kill a target and if they did it was considered umm shameful i guess and sniping with your bow is double shameful XD plus it's no fun

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10-21-2006, 03:29 PM
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Tobbe777
10-21-2006, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by chewie1890:
I'm pretty sure you can kill who you want, that would add to the realism. From what I have read you're supposed to escape to the Assassins Base, I might be wrong about this though. You might just have to stay out of sight for an ammount of time and then they give up. I think after you do a kill though that if they see you ANYWHERE that the chase will resume. Like I said i'm not positive about this its just things from what i've read and what I speculate.

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RetiredHatch
10-21-2006, 04:25 PM
If this is true, then do they have some auto-blocking system to deflect bolts you fire down at your target Hmm im a bit confused about this

Well they have helmets on...


and also do you think if you climb buildings, then the guards put ladders up and if they do get up maybe not by ladders grappling hook or something stairs even then you could kick them off and pure damage??

not sure what you mean by pure damage but yea you should be able to kick them off the building too XD i dunno about that but it'd be cool


When your fighting is it like combat special moves like on PoP or can you attack and hit the leg and they limp off or toward you or the arm they drop weapon and flee i dont know all this would be fantastic

and basically i heard that the combat is going to be like this you have a counter then attack type format for this game you hit button to counter then when you hit the button to attack he'll cut them down i don't know if there's a way to specificly cut certain parts of their body i dunno but i heard if someone saw their friend die they're going to run away IF they get scared a big if or they could fall on their knees and beg for mercy or somethin x.x

Tobbe777
10-22-2006, 06:47 AM
I'm almost certain the bodies won't disappear. That just looks stupid, and that's not at all what this game deserves.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RetiredHatch
10-22-2006, 10:11 AM
Of course they'll dissappear just not when you're standing there XD (hopefully) maybe the guards will drag them away if they didn't eventually dissappear ? wouldn't the bodies start to pile up that wouldn't be any good

RetiredHatch
10-22-2006, 10:20 AM
what TV question? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif and the fact with the bodies most bodies get dragged away by the people and they give the person a funeral that seems a tad more realistic than bodies hanging out in the middle of the streets maybe if you secretely killed him on the roofs and nobody saw that body should stay there

RetiredHatch
10-22-2006, 10:38 AM
oh the tv question my friend told me it'll still look way better the ps3 even if you don't have a HD tv cause i don't have one either but it just won't be in HD it'll be better than the ps2 though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

RetiredHatch
10-22-2006, 10:59 AM
You'd have to buy the plugs for HD i dunno what they're called Component cables? or whatever but you can buy the ps2 ones for 7 bucks and plug them into your ps3 for HD
That's what I'd think too but the guards won't notice that you're there if you don't do things out of the ordinary but if you approach a guard i'm sure he'll be plenty happy to see you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif though no nevermind he was walkin next to a bunch of guards in one of the trailers i saw -_-

Just be a normal person and they won't get mad

I heard if you're a jerk and run around killing people it'll make the game near impossible to play but it can also make it easier if you're nice to the population as they'll help you when you're running from the guards or approaching the target

RetiredHatch
10-22-2006, 11:08 AM
I don't know i'm gonna assume yea if no one saw you you can probably go down and look just don't go loot it and i heard it'll be plenty interactive though i'm guessing that's cause of the being able to climb everything that seems plenty interactive to me XD didn't hear anything about throwing things around and no doubt you'll be able to run full speed and slash at things that'd be stupid if you can't I mean Zelda is doing it why can't this game!

Edit: Those are assumptions btw no truth to my paragraph up there well maybe truth but no evidence to support it

RetiredHatch
10-22-2006, 12:01 PM
I dunno if the bodies are interactive that was another guess but if it's like splinter cell moving them would be possible because you can move them in splinter cell
What delay are you talking about and what launch date? The launch as far as (nothing's official) I know is March sometime.
I think it'd be cool to be able to clean off your sword just sit at the top of a high building staring at the crowd scraping blood off your sword good image yea?
You can run around and explore as far as eating and sleeping Maybe at the assassin's base things will happen I know you go pick up missions there maybe rest aswell if you're hurt eating not so sure It'd be cool to walk by a fruitstand and buy a fruit and eat it as you continue walking

RetiredHatch
10-22-2006, 02:10 PM
yea and the assassin's isn't a launch title and yea i'm second in line for the ps3 at gamestop so i'm gettin a ps3 at launch http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif waited for five hours i better get a ps3 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif and yea i'm hoping to be able to pickpocket too
If the guards are searching for you just hide don't necessarily have to leave the city but if they're lookin and they can't find you say you hide with a bunch of priests (example i read) they won't notice you're there (though the sword should give it away) and then they'll give up and you can break away and continue like nothing happened http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

RetiredHatch
10-22-2006, 02:35 PM
yea and yea they were ordering ps3's but not anymore they were only takin it till they run out of pre-orders which was 16 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif so basically if you didn't order x.x you not gettin a ps3 cause there aren't very many to go around

RetiredHatch
10-22-2006, 02:53 PM
i would edit that post if i were you but anyways you could camp out infront of Best Buy for a week http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif that might bring some luck

RetiredHatch
10-22-2006, 03:09 PM
I don't know anywherethat's taking preorders anymore i dunno if the online gamestop took it's preorders yet i'd keep track and keep trying http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif go ask around at the local stores i remember i went in every day to gamestop to ask about preorders and they were all tomorrow and i was all ok and i sat down http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif jk jk i went in at 5 in the morning but yea

It blocks by itself yea that's the stamina bar thing it's like taking a hit in another game but it's just more realistic if you don't actually get hit soo there's a stamina bar that shows how many more auto-blocks he can do befor eyou die and so it's basically the same as getting hit and if you do hit the button to counter you can then attack and kill them i'm sure if you hit them in the leg they won't die but i'm not sure if you can hit them in the leg on purpose http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif yea i know though that if you're fighting normal people not guards they might get scared and run off if they see you take down their friend or something though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

RetiredHatch
10-22-2006, 03:59 PM
that wasn't the X06 demo that was the E3 trailer and yea you'll be able to hack thing and break them if you watch the REAL x06 demo it shows that i'm not sure what's going on with the horse I've seen it different colors one picture it's brown the other white so maybe you can hi-jack horses? XD go watch the xo6 demo
type "Assassin's Creed gameplay" at google-video that'll give you the gameplay footage i'm sure you can slash while riding your horse but i'm not sure about shooting arrows i dunno the horse itself either x.x but I wouldn't chop up my horse anyways http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

RetiredHatch
10-22-2006, 04:11 PM
use your sword to hack guards or even the horse itself

I read that you can do acrobatics with your horse like jump off and then stab the guy not actually stepping on people i saw in the video when the horse run over people it didnt hurt them it just looked like they ran out of the way soo i dunno I know you can rear your horse back on two legs though and that'll scare some people I bet you can take the guys swords though armor not so sure that'll happen Though that's be wicked cool if you could and when you rise through the ranks you get better weapons and cooler clothes also i read that somewhere too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif so yah i gotta do hw XD i should've started earlier i'm not going to finish

killerassassind
10-22-2006, 04:36 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gifretiredhatch do you have a kingdomhearts website

RetiredHatch
10-22-2006, 05:39 PM
no but i love kingdomhearts a whole bunch http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

DarkCrawler90
10-23-2006, 01:56 AM
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...right. What were we talking about again?

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RetiredHatch
10-23-2006, 03:18 PM
We were talking about combat DarkCrawler90 but i think we got sort of off topic http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif

Anyways i don't see the crossbow being a weapon in none of the footage he has it and in the trailer he only has it for the beginning and yea i'm betting people will get scared if you draw your sword people get scared in fable if you draw your sword I'm sure this game will do that too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Syphax1986
10-23-2006, 05:50 PM
I'd like to see the following stuff included:

- A renown rating: Like in the last hitman. If witnesses get a good look at your face, the authorities will start hanging up posters of you, declaring rewards for your head etc. You'd might even get a bountyhunter on your neck.

- Perhaps shooting a (cross)bow could be very difficult. Make the aiming just like in real live, imagining that the arrow is hollow and point it straight at your target.

- Real wounds. Like if you're cut in the shoulder, you loose control over it. That would be cool on the guards/target too.

- The ability to leave your mark. It was common for an assassin to leave his mark so that the authorities knew who performed the act. Perhaps that you can choose before hand what certain attribute becomes your mark. (like a hollow coin, a white rose, etc.)

- Realistisc armor. Iron tipped arrows and bolts could not penetrate expensive steel armor, perhaps when your target is a wealthy knight. Maybe the visor would be a soft spot.

- Take a hostage. Like sneak up behind the target/civilian/guard and put a knive up his throat and threaten to kill him if the guards move any closer.

- If you can fight of horseback, I'd like to see that the horse gets skewered by a lance. Spear's and lance's are known to be very handy in skewering horses.

- I'd like to see our hero eat and sleep, get ill, get a lover, sharpen and polish his weapon's, etc.

...more to come...

RetiredHatch
10-23-2006, 05:55 PM
I like those ideas but the leaving your mark they already know who did it... they watched you do it and Altair isn't a bloody murderer he kills as self defense or as a profession but he respects his targets and i don't think he'd sink so low as taking an innocent person hostage -_- though it'd be fun XD http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

DarkCrawler90
10-24-2006, 09:17 AM
There is probably no difference between PS3 or X-Box 360...nothing notable anyway. Maybe small things like "hey, that tree looks a bit more better on my PS3", or "Hey, that civilian reacted 0.1 seconds faster on my 360", but nothing that would effect gameplay so much that the other version is CLEARLY better.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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DarkCrawler90
10-24-2006, 09:34 AM
It is not launch title, and I would imagine it comes on somewhere around March 2007 or something. Can't help you with your PS3 pre-order...<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 02:50 PM
360's should be available to buy don't try and get things like that for free off the internet it's a bad idea http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif I'm thinking march too unless that post i just saw on the front page is true i'm gonna go check that out now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 03:31 PM
oh ok i'll go a head and type in an old email if ya want

Marek86
10-24-2006, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Syphax1986:
I'd like to see the following stuff included:

- A renown rating: Like in the last hitman. If witnesses get a good look at your face, the authorities will start hanging up posters of you, declaring rewards for your head etc. You'd might even get a bountyhunter on your neck.

- Perhaps shooting a (cross)bow could be very difficult. Make the aiming just like in real live, imagining that the arrow is hollow and point it straight at your target.

- Real wounds. Like if you're cut in the shoulder, you loose control over it. That would be cool on the guards/target too.

- The ability to leave your mark. It was common for an assassin to leave his mark so that the authorities knew who performed the act. Perhaps that you can choose before hand what certain attribute becomes your mark. (like a hollow coin, a white rose, etc.)

- Realistisc armor. Iron tipped arrows and bolts could not penetrate expensive steel armor, perhaps when your target is a wealthy knight. Maybe the visor would be a soft spot.

- Take a hostage. Like sneak up behind the target/civilian/guard and put a knive up his throat and threaten to kill him if the guards move any closer.

- If you can fight of horseback, I'd like to see that the horse gets skewered by a lance. Spear's and lance's are known to be very handy in skewering horses.

- I'd like to see our hero eat and sleep, get ill, get a lover, sharpen and polish his weapon's, etc.

...more to come...

I don't think eating has much of a place in this game unless it restores your health. If it's like a thing where you eat alot then altair will gan weight then it'd be gay. And getting a lover is too RPGish unless it's part of the story which I highly doubt. I can see getting poisoned or something but no one really wants to play Altair and in the middle of an assassination find out he has a fever. I can see the weapons maitnence, but I would do more like a thing from oblivion where you just repair your weapons.

RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 03:43 PM
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Marek86
10-24-2006, 03:46 PM
I'm not alone. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 03:48 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif As much as they said about the game is a perfect game in my eyes if they just perfecte what they've already said the game is going to be then it should be an awesome game nothing more and nothing less

Marek86
10-24-2006, 03:50 PM
I just hope it's not all open area assassinations, I want some stealth missions two, and I think the weather and time of day should change.

RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 03:52 PM
I think the weather and time of day should change also but if they don't do that I won't think any less of the game and i'd like some stealth missions also in that very first trailer before the one with him on the clocktower and chase and the monks and the coolness it showed him sneaking up behind a guy that was alone (well his friend was next to him that's it) the first one so it seems like that's probably going to happen the pre-e3 trailer

FableB
10-24-2006, 03:53 PM
If eating will restore health in Assassin's Creed then that will be really disappointing, they will have to figure out another way of increasing your health, you know, your wound won't vanish if you eat a Big Mac...<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 03:55 PM
Itd be cool of they put in a tending system to where you have to tend your wounds say if you get cut on the arm you'd have to bandage it up somehow or something or it'll get worse or infected or something http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Marek86
10-24-2006, 03:56 PM
I was just saying if there was food in the game it should restore your health, but I really don't think there should be food, maybe if there's a stamina bar like in Metal gear solid 3.

RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 03:58 PM
There is a stamina bar and i think there should be food in the game just for effect if you want to eat you can walk by a stand and snatch say a melon and continue walking and eat it that'd be nice maybe not force you to eat like gta that annoyed me and the stamina bar is yea there's a stamina bar -_- stamina bar is used for fighting though not sure if it's used for anything else
EDIT:

Here's my proof about the stamina bar

http://news.gaminghorizon.com/media2/1158900434.4765.html

but the stamina bar makes sense since it's a guy looking at altair through a virtual reality type machine genetic memory stuff y'know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif? it's not like the bar doesn't make sense because it only makes sense that that'd be there for him in the whatever it's called http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Tobbe777
10-24-2006, 04:14 PM
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RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 04:17 PM
Not to get health just to eat for the hell of it because it's fun to walk by and snatch a fruit off a fruitstand without him noticing and then eat it just for the effect of realism don't FORCE you to eat but maybe just put it in there as an option that you can play around with http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

Tobbe777
10-24-2006, 04:18 PM
Then it's even stupider.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 04:20 PM
Why is it stupid? This game is stupid if that's what you think What's wrong with being able to steal fruit and eat it? I think it'd be a nice little option to add to the game to add for effect the game doesn't have to be based around the missions they can't add extra little tid bits to mess around with? The only thing that you want Altair to be able to do is kill and climb?

Tobbe777
10-24-2006, 04:22 PM
Yeah. Stealing fruit just for the hell of it is pointless. This shouldn't be a game where you do things just for the hell of it. We have RPG's for that, and this is no RPG.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 04:26 PM
This game is not an rpg and rpg's are for sure not a free do whatever you want game an rpg is a walk here do that do that force you to do this this game IS DO WHAT YOU WANT that's what they're going for FREEDOM go read what the makers of the game are saying everyone keeps saying FREEDOM and adding that to the game does add a little sense of FREEDOM to it don't you think? Obviously you need to get your genre's straight too because RPG's are definately not based around freedom at all -_- and sure it's pointless but it's there and it might be fun to add to the realism Altair needs to eat y'know? but they don't need to force you to eat and screw up the experience but it'd be nice if you could? Why does Altair need to be limited to climbing and killing and walking? If you don't want to steal the fruit don't I don't care it'd just be a nice small add-on to be there if incase you want to make the character more than just his missions or running around and stuff


Edit:

And i'm not saying it's a required thing to the game to me this would be just like the night and day thing it'd be nice but not required to make this game great what they've already promised to me is a perfect game it'd just be kind of nice to be able to do small little things that kind of add to the character so of course don't make this a priority in game development (not like they were going too) i'm just saying it'd be nice

Tobbe777
10-24-2006, 04:33 PM
1. You are free to do whatever you want in a lot of RPG games.

2. In AC you have freedom to go where you want, and climb anything you want. Not about doing anything you want. The game is about killing people.


Altair needs to eat y'know?

Then Altair needs to go to the toilet too. Oh, no! Wait! He can eat and use the toilet once he's back in the assassin's base, can't he? There's no point doing that while you're on a mission.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 04:36 PM
Wow you got this game backwards it is not about killing people you're one of those shallow people that thing everything in the world is about killing people i'm not going to argue with you
and what i meant is he needs to eat why not let him eat if he wants if you want to goto the toilet be my guest i don't care i'm NEVER said force the player to eat every 30 min in the game

Tobbe777
10-24-2006, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by RetiredHatch:
You're one of those shallow people that thing everything in the world is about killing people.

Sure...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

This game is about killing people. That's what assassin's do.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 04:42 PM
-_- the main focus of the game is not killing people then they would have made a hack and slash game where you can kill 1 billion people and get away with it cause frankly you can't in this game they said there's only 9 main guys to kill anyways so why the hell is there only 9 people to kill if the game is about killing people?

Tobbe777
10-24-2006, 04:45 PM
Okay, I'll say it in another way, so that you may understand.

The game is focused around assassinating people.

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RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 04:47 PM
No because that's not the main focus i'm not stupid i know what you mean that's the story but the focus of the game is the freedom man you're pretty narrow minded must be like 12

EDIT: hang on i see your point so even if the game was revolved around killing people? why not put a little extra just for the sake of maybe giving the player more to do then just kill people?

Tobbe777
10-24-2006, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by RetiredHatch:
No because that's not the main focus i'm not stupid i know what you mean that's the story but the focus of the game is the freedom man you're pretty narrow minded must be like 12


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RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 05:05 PM
I'm calling you narrow-minded usually that means you're 12 and under and I'm guessing that's true by your reply

chewie1890
10-24-2006, 05:05 PM
I think he should be able to pick up a melon and yank it down on top his head and wear it like a mask...<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 05:06 PM
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Tobbe777
10-24-2006, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by RetiredHatch:
I'm calling you narrow-minded usually that means you're 12 and under and I'm guessing that's true by your reply

I'm narrow-minded because I think you're wrong? -_-

And I'm 17 BTW.

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chewie1890
10-24-2006, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by Tobbe777:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RetiredHatch:
I'm calling you narrow-minded usually that means you're 12 and under and I'm guessing that's true by your reply

I'm narrow-minded because I think you're wrong? -_-

And I'm 17 BTW.

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RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 05:10 PM
Some people like to play their characters as if they were living breathing people? and narrow minded means you don't even look at the different possibilities this game is not straight up killing it's more than that that's narrow mindedness and i'd say that doesn't make sense at all a melon wouldn't fit on his head at all http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
and now i think you're disagreeing with me just because you like to start fights yea? how the hell does popping a melon on your head make sense than eating a dammed melon

chewie1890
10-24-2006, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by RetiredHatch:
Some people like to play their characters as if they were living breathing people? and narrow minded means you don't even look at the different possibilities this game is not straight up killing it's more than that that's narrow mindedness and i'd say that doesn't make sense at all a melon wouldn't fit on his head at all http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

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RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 05:12 PM
i didn't say watermelon i said melon those are pretty small in comparison

chewie1890
10-24-2006, 05:13 PM
Narrowminded twit... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

But in all seriousness I think it would be wise to stop spamming this kind person's board with off-topic non-sense...

My apologies thread creator. I'm feeling weird today... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 05:14 PM
Me? watermelons would fit on his head fine if that's what you want to hear... but why he would do it is beyond me... though it'd be a nice extra to the game http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Tobbe777
10-24-2006, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by RetiredHatch:
Some people like to play their characters as if they were living breathing people?

Of course, but I don't believe it's the point in this game.


and narrow minded means you don't even look at the different possibilities this game is not straight up killing.


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RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 05:18 PM
This game is about killing people. That's what assassin's do.


-_- there's your proof i know that's not the point of the game i said myself don't make it a priority to the game i was just saying it'd be a nice touch to the game if they did do it What i said is the game is absolutely perfect how it is night and day eating melons cleaning off your sword after you kill someone it's all nice little touches to the game that'd make it more interactive to play i'd say but it's not a necessary addition don't make a priority in production just think about it if you want it'd be nice if it was there if not it's an excellent game nonetheless http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

Tobbe777
10-24-2006, 05:24 PM
I want this argument ended now. It's late, and I wanna go to bed.

1. I said the game was about killing people, not just about killing people. Of course you do a lot of other things, but in the end, everything you do in missions and eventual sub-missions will end in an assassination. Because that's Altairs job. Killing people.

2. I still don't like your watermelon idea. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 05:27 PM
2. I still don't like your watermelon idea.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif it's a melon but yea we're clear what if i say peach? you like peaches? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif or maybe an apple http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

but that's done anyways yea g'night

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10-24-2006, 05:28 PM
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RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 05:42 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif that was different

ATFA666
10-24-2006, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by Tobbe777:
1. I said the game was about killing people, not just about killing people. Of course you do a lot of other things, but in the end, everything you do in missions and eventual sub-missions will end in an assassination. Because that's Altairs job. Killing people.

He is right....Assassins kill people that is their job......Although some sub-missions may involve other things,yes?


Moving on....In the combat system will different types of swords(as in long/short swords)have different attacks?

RetiredHatch
10-24-2006, 06:40 PM
Probably... going to have different attacks

and -_- i'd like to point out that the your job isn't the only thing you do all day long? what's wrong with taking a break and how come Altair can't take a break either? I'm a bit tired of this so i'm going to go now too

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10-24-2006, 11:37 PM
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RetiredHatch
10-25-2006, 01:34 PM
Sorry http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

Marek86
10-25-2006, 05:39 PM
Anyways, I beleive you should only have to steal items critical to your mission, or for money depending on wheter or not you can buy items and weapons. I think you should have a fence that you can sell your stolen itmes to.

chewie1890
10-25-2006, 06:16 PM
I started thinking about this when I read the last bit of Mareks answer for my assassination scenario. Are you allowed to have your sword out and also have your switchblade out? Are you allowed to stab a guy and thrust the body at someone else? That sure would be entertaining...<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Marek86
10-25-2006, 06:45 PM
Yea that would be cool, but something tells me no about the switchblade and sword out at the the same time, but that would be cool. But I bet you will be able to knock down enemies wih other opponents.

RetiredHatch
10-25-2006, 07:44 PM
I don't see throwing bodies at people is going to work either

Marek86
10-26-2006, 02:40 PM
You don't exactley have to throw them, you could use a melee attack and if they ran into another guard maybe he would fall or something.

RetiredHatch
10-26-2006, 04:16 PM
I definately see that working though http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif but yea that's not really throwing.. soo when he said throwing i thought he meant physically picking up a body and throwing it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Marek86
10-26-2006, 07:24 PM
lol no, that'd be like really smackdown like lol. John cena is Altair! no j/k i don't like that guy.

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10-27-2006, 08:21 AM
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11-06-2006, 04:40 PM
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jamie255555
11-11-2006, 04:00 AM
Hi i thought it was agreed there wasn't to be a crossbow because on the X06 demo he doesnt have it on his back (NOT ONCE) so i dont understand this will be a dissapointment for me but i'll still get it.... and do you have to do what jade raymond said "Its not a stealth game hiding in shadows and stuff" sometimes it wud be a nice change to hide in shadows sneaking through and then killing or sniping with crossbow http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif or throwing knife. 2 more questions(PLASE AnSWER ALL :P lol) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif when she said the envireonemnts destructable does she mean all of it like when she cut wood for blockage was tht jus a lucky piece of stuff thts bound to be broken? and finally.... i like an idea of throwing some pots to distract guards, or like throw something tht'd be cool

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and wht the hells this about a delay?!?!?!?!?!?:!?!?!

DarkDeath_470
11-11-2006, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by tress-jr:
ummm i watch the trailer like 50 million times and i realize something about the crossbow. I dont think its actually his cause after stabing the guard he doesn't put it back on his back he drops on the ground..proof.. he does not have it in the rest of the video

but now that i remember he has the quiever so...
neway let me know what you think about that...

It would have taken far too long to reload the crossbow. He surprised them and needed to use those precious moments to kill his target and run, otherwise they would have had more time to attack

aden2336
11-11-2006, 05:01 PM
are you able to change clothes like in the elder scrolls series and can you talk to people ?

aden2336
11-11-2006, 10:50 PM
can you have a bow ith you and like in the assassination on william where he stood near the bell or on that roof you coukld just have a bow and head shot him an if possible mabey add a poison if they have it in the game

aden2336
11-11-2006, 11:49 PM
i just saw a interveiw with jade and she said you can get new and better weapons as you get further and you can level up your abilities

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11-12-2006, 12:22 AM
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aden2336
11-12-2006, 01:54 AM
im sorry but were is the edit option?

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Marek86
11-12-2006, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by aden2336:
i just saw a interveiw with jade and she said you can get new and better weapons as you get further and you can level up your abilities

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Kinda off topic, but didn't someone say that there is going to be downloadable content including weapons, costumes, etc.?

jamie255555
11-14-2006, 03:22 PM
Hi
Any news on the distraction idea
so what your saying is there won't be a crossbow?

and what is the delay and when is it tilL!
im finding it hard to wait now never mind even longer, is it so they can bring out Graw?!?!?!?
coz we dont want that (same with BOH HH too)

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aden2336
11-15-2006, 10:44 PM
actualy it isnt off topic this is abpout weapons i just said that you could get better ones and in that same sentence she stated you could upgrade abilities i had to say it or the sentence would have been incomplete and you dont want the other words geting angry at you ffor making me stop a sentence

if he meant that then why wopuld he put my post in there

RetiredHatch
11-16-2006, 04:13 PM
think he was saying his post was off topic though i'm not sure

and to answer your question jaimie we don't know anything about the game but i know shooting someone in the head isn't alowed in the game atleast by the assassin's it isn't alowed it's considered cheating and when it came to killing their targets they used the wristblade atleast as far as the game's story goes not sure how historically accurate that is
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there isn't any information about the pots to distract guards but if she said it's destructible then it's probably going to be destructible things that can be destroyed though you can't go punching holes into walls http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

quicksilver_502
11-17-2006, 08:57 AM
i think they'll let you shoot people in the head as there not making exactly the same people as the real assassins were.

RetiredHatch
11-18-2006, 05:26 PM
You can shoot regular people in the head but i don't think you should be able to shoot the guy you're assassinating in the head http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

jamie255555
11-20-2006, 03:37 PM
Ye but can you shoot anyone in the head??

She said Jade reymond u can't kill one person or somet dint she?
and what about guards unless you did it secretly no one wud know.
Anyway im not gerrng a ps3 till 2007 december, im getting a mint pc instead. Pc gaming is brilliant aswel, anyone agree?

RetiredHatch
11-20-2006, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by jamie255555:
Ye but can you shoot anyone in the head??

She said Jade reymond u can't kill one person or somet dint she?
and what about guards unless you did it secretly no one wud know.
Anyway im not gerrng a ps3 till 2007 december, im getting a mint pc instead. Pc gaming is brilliant aswel, anyone agree?

I'm sure you can shoot anyone in the head i just don't think you should be alowed to shoot your target in the head because that'd be unfair I don't see you using your bow too much in the game anyways might not be a longe range one http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif



Originally posted by quicksilver_502:
think they'll let you shoot people in the head as there not making exactly the same people as the real assassins were.

I read that in a GAME preview I said it myself that I don't know how much hisotorically accurate that is but I think it's going to be a part of the game to where you can't kill your target unless you're using your switchblade

mattmatt13g
11-22-2006, 01:37 PM
we all saw the weapons altiar was carrying, which i have to admit are awsome. i'd also like to be able to use the enviroment as in finding weapons and basically using anything the enviroment has to offer

Frozen-Arrow
11-23-2006, 06:13 AM
If your target is someone like a guard in mail armor you wouldn't be able to one shot him...I see maybe opening up with a crosbow shot but I think most fo the game will be using the enemy's weakness agiasnt them...if you see in some videos when he takes the guards he'll pull a spin move and let them fly infront of him then maybe knife them from behind, I think the switchblade will be the weapon of choice like 70% of the game.

klc123
11-30-2006, 02:45 PM
retired hack,personally i think you should go and play some game like runescape,ur obsest(srry about spelling) about this corny idea of eating sleeping and boring stuff,and wake up its called 'assassin's creed' ,let me enthasize,'ASSASSIN'S' corse its about killing....

munkyman101
12-02-2006, 06:51 AM
I think the presence of the crossbow is certain as Altair has a quiver of crossbow bolts on his back, bt as RetiredHatch sed it is seen as cheating if you kill with the crossbow, so you may fail the mission.

Also if we are going on realism the size of the crossbow in the trailer means that it would not be powerful enough especially to penetrate armour.

Th3_Assass1n
12-09-2006, 04:00 PM
klsc123, that arguement is done, don't rip it open again, please.

They have sait that this game is supposed to be very realistic, that would allow you to steal and eat if you would like to do that, right?
Oh, and BTW, taste can't be discussed.
I would like to be able to steal and pretend like Altar is a close-to-real person, but not all the time, just when I need to have some riddiculous fun with the game.

OK, back to topic(sorry for the answer to klc)

I would belice Altars crossbow would be efficient from 15 to 1 meters (about 45 to 3 feet, if I did the math correctly), and the throwing daggers would be part of distraction and/or killing.
The Switchblade is possibly the weapon you'll hve to use most of the time, but also the sword if you get into a fight with the guards. Switchblade - 70%, Sword - 25%, Other - 5%

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RetiredHatch
12-12-2006, 03:04 PM
They have sait that this game is supposed to be very realistic, that would allow you to steal and eat if you would like to do that, right?
Oh, and BTW, taste can't be discussed.
I would like to be able to steal and pretend like Altar is a close-to-real person, but not all the time, just when I need to have some riddiculous fun with the game.

Thank you that's exactly what I was trying to say... and i'm not obsessed with the fact and yea that arguement was done thank you
-_-


As for the the weapon usage I think the switchblade is you use to kill your target and swords for fighting off guards and the crossbow isn't even sure if it's going to be part of the game haven't seen him wear but for the first 20 seconds of the e3 trailer guess he does have a quiver and bolts though

hashshim_Altair
12-16-2006, 05:29 AM
Ok for all you people that are calling it a switchblade dee de dee, its not a swithblade it is a dagger that comes out of his glove. When you became an assasin or hashshim(original name for assasins derived from the ceracins)When Altair pulls his ring finger( which was cut to make way for the guanlet) the blade comes directly out
Originally posted by tisfortunesfall:
Switchblade? Wouldn't that retract at a 180 degree angle where as the blade seen in the trailers thus far is more like a dagger that comes out in a straight line, also the chances are that it locks once fully retracted and that it's built into a gauntlet to provide strength to the blade and safety for the cogs and springs. Lastly a switchblade which comes out at a 180 degree angle would easily snap and, would be more limited in use then the type i described above due to its wide retracting angle and mutiple parts of the blade.

RetiredHatch
12-16-2006, 09:28 PM
we call it a switchblade just to give it a name to distinguish it from any other old dagger that he has lying around

aalataur
12-29-2006, 03:36 PM
I hope the weaponry to be realistic. No macigal things, please. Also, it´s not the number of different swords that matters, but the number of ways to attack and defend with one. It should not matter a lot WHAT sword you use, but WHEN, HOW and WHERE you hit with it. They were all sharp, all made of steel or iron, there´s not much to go from there. The rest is just skill.

I hope that the game will show blood. Because a real medieval warfare was gory. It was WAY more gory than modern day firearm combat. A bullet makes a nice clean hole, a blade, not so nice at all. Capitations and such will make AC unsuitable for teens, but great games are never made with compromises. Not on a basic realism issue like this. Please, make it gory. Make it real.

I LOVED the fact how one blow kills. In reality, no matter how tough guy you are, one solid hit from a steel blade first of all, ends your will to combat, and second, probably ends your life too. No health potions, no mercy, just plain realism. In real swordfight, the only moment for a truly lethal strike, is after a succesful block.

A sword fight is VERY difficult to simulate in a game. Pointing guns and such is a lot easier with current controllers. (Yes Wii owners, you have your nice controller and I hate your guts for that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif) On video AC combat looked amazingly real, I hope that the real experience is as good as it looks.

Blocking should be essential for survival as it seems to be. Also there HAS to be more than just one way to swing you sword AND a detailed way to decide the direction, force and side of the blow you take. You must be able to "read" your opponent like in a real swordfight, the most powerfull hits must NOT come without a warning. If your opponent is going to hit hard

A) You can tell it
B) You can tell WHICH SIDE and DIRECTION he is going to strike. This is the phase to place your block

In a real medieval fight there was some tactics usually forgetted in games.

First of all, you aimed for the connection point of limbs - there the armor is weak. Also cutting opponents knees from behind was popular, for the same reason - no armor there. Also, if you have a blunt weapon like a hammer, the damage it does is CRUSHING type. A blade has CUTTING or STABBING type. So, different armor is effective against different type of damage: a chainmail is more effective agains CUTTING and STABBING weapons. But it´s pretty useless agains crushing weapons, because it gives in. Heavy knight armor consisting of steel plates is effective against all types of damage, also crushing, but it makes you slow. They were hot as hell to use in the summertime, they made you quickly tired. And if you fell, you needed help to stand up again. Also, the connection points of limbs were weak on this type of armor as mentioned before.
Another thing: never block with your sword if the enemy is using a heavy blunt weapon, like a 2-handed axe or a hammer - your block will not hold the weight of it. A sword block is only effective agains another sword, not a crushing weapon. You should try to just dodge or move away, not block. But, with a CRUSHING weapon, for instance, a hammer, it´s slower and more fatiguing to strike, because crushing weapons weigh a lot more than cutting and stabbing blades.

So, slow and clumsy crushing weapons like warhammers were used for only one reason: a chainmail or leather armor is uneffective against them.

Attacking with a shield, the handle end of a sword for a quick close attack, or a occasional hefty boot in the face if your opponent was about to fall were also medieval combact tactics. Also, striking from a mounted positions, like a horse, does a great deal more of damage, if the horse is running fast and the target is on foot.

Midnight013
12-29-2006, 07:34 PM
Is it possible there will be side quest in this game?

AKdemon
12-29-2006, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by Midnight013:
Is it possible there will be side quest in this game?
That's already been answered in the All Known Facts About AC thread. Though, for the benefit of a doubt, and yes you can quote me on this one, the answer you seek is a resounding "Yes!". From what we're told/I've read, they include helping out different parts of the population of a city, like doing a job for the monks, and in return, they'll let you slip in among them and sneak away from the guards and escape. If you watch the trailer, that's exactly what Altair does after he makes his kill. He dashes off as the bells chime, and disappear into a throng of monks that are exiting their church/temple.

Sharaham
01-10-2007, 09:14 AM
I've been told he has a sword, hidden switchblade, throwing daggers, and a crossbow that doubles as a battle axe,(watch the intro movie on assassinscreed.com and u'll see altair hack down a guard with the crossbow)

fatduncan
01-31-2007, 08:27 AM
This is going a month back, but in regards to the crossbow... according to some references in other posts, the assassins traditionally killed with the dagger and were not supposed to harm innocents if at all possible, so the crossbow probably won't get much use. Maybe it'll be good to shoot guards (eg in the leg) to slow them down, but before the assassination Altair probably won't want to kill too many people, and after he'll probably just want to get out of there.
The crossbow (if it's in the game) would be useful in some situations, but I doubt it'll be a primary weapon. Of course, there's probably nothing in the game itself to stop you from picking off guards for fun, but I doubt that'd go over well with your superiors...

Jiles12
01-31-2007, 03:52 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dsoihn:
regarding weapons, a true master assassins (atleast what I think) uses poisons to kill, stunn their target or gaurds. Even if I havent seen or heard anything about poisons in AC, I would love to be able to use it. [QUOTE]

That is the most ******ed thing i have ever heard of.

Jiles12
01-31-2007, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by klc123:
retired hack,personally i think you should go and play some game like runescape,ur obsest(srry about spelling) about this corny idea of eating sleeping and boring stuff,and wake up its called 'assassin's creed' ,let me enthasize,'ASSASSIN'S' corse its about killing....


...ITS EMPHASIZE, YOU MORON...and COURSE...if you're going to insult someone, at least spell the words correctly

Assassin510
01-31-2007, 06:40 PM
no warhammers, that would be dumb assassins want to get out after making a kill luggin a warhammer would use to much energy and would slow you down, long/shortswords and daggers would do fine...also im not sure if obsidian was available in that area, but that would be interesting to have obsidian weaponry

zgubilici
01-31-2007, 10:00 PM
Let's not start an insults/flaming war in here - everyone please keep the discussions in a civilized manner, thanks.

Cryasmere
02-01-2007, 07:49 AM
Alright, this is off-topic, but when did they say it would come out on 360 too? ive been looking all over for news of the game and just got here. i just bought a ps3 for it yesterday too

noobfun
02-02-2007, 07:05 AM
Originally posted by Sharaham:
I've been told he has a sword, hidden switchblade, throwing daggers, and a crossbow that doubles as a battle axe,(watch the intro movie on assassinscreed.com and u'll see altair hack down a guard with the crossbow)

hmmmm ok take your own advice and watch it again, ive seen a couple of these super crossbow killer axe things around here. watch it again go to google video and watch it full screen, he dodges a sword swipe from the guard then uses the curve of the bow to hook the guard and pull him down the stairs out of his way so he can reach his target, the guy you see him jump over is the guard he shot with the bolt from the cross bow.

aalataur nice synops of weapon stratergies and tactics but your forgeting altair is a Nizari they carried out assassinations with daggers in public place (the bigger the crowd the better) to cause fear and make the mainstream muslim groups that had persecuted them and forced them out of the cities think twice before attacking thier fortresses

they pretty much invented terrorism and information warfare. They originally operated like terrorist cells do today recruiting people for religeous conversion secretly creating cells within cities, when they were forced out they created thier own city states and and got everyone to scared to openly attack them because they didnt have the military strength to fight an open war. these guys created the idea of jihad modern day terrorists quote death on a mission or after a successful mission was a way of instant entry to heaven.

eroth1
02-04-2007, 12:10 AM
Maybe the crossbow we "will get" will be something like a sniper rifle that you can take aim with on the roof tops. Say like in the E3 Trailer. Instead of do the dagger-><STRIKE>nec</STRIKE>k thing u stay in the bell tower, aim and shoot, mission done and simply done. BUT if you notice Altiar's RB (retractible Blade) hand his finger is missing where the blade comes out signifing that it's the weapon he's been trained with therefore making it the staple of AC. I can imagine what weapons you take and what of this and that u take is gonna be like the Resident Evil 4 item menu. U can take what you can carry. It has to be something realistic If you can't fit it it goes to the group Altair is with, or to some...storage...room...thing-a-majig...

DNPullen
02-06-2007, 01:40 PM
You definitely should be able to torch people, that would be so cool!

GoldenHawk442
02-06-2007, 06:54 PM
I want to Altair to be able to steal weapons from guards. Like, if he kills a Frankish pikeman, he should be able to use the pike. Not sure if this is already included in the game, though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Also, I want Altair to be able to coordinate with other Hashashin (sp?) members.

XazperDK
02-07-2007, 04:39 AM
I agree with the "torch people"-thing, it would be so cool to set some random person on fire with for example the crossbow in the other end of the townsquare (or something) and then stabbing the target when he's looking and everyone is confused/paniced.. but i've no idea if it will work.

noobfun
02-07-2007, 06:46 AM
Originally posted by XazperDK:
I agree with the "torch people"-thing, it would be so cool to set some random person on fire with for example the crossbow in the other end of the townsquare (or something) and then stabbing the target when he's looking and everyone is confused/paniced.. but i've no idea if it will work.

kinda missing the point really,

1) you want everyone to know its you, killing him while everyones looking the other way could be put down to any number of enemies that person had. you kill them up close and personal so they know your a nizari and that you have no fear of them, their guards or their goverments. you want them scared of you and your people so blatant fearless public kills are important

2)lighting up some random person? first a flamming arrow flying across a market place is gonna draw you a lot of attention. second nizari killers did what they could to prevent harm to innocents, thats not a caring streak they have but harming some poor beggar will have no effect on the ruling class they probabily wouldnt care so it wont help your peoples cause in anyway. infact nizari and ishma'ili missionarys trying to recruit new converts in the general population would be even more despised then they already were

XazperDK
02-08-2007, 12:52 AM
Well ok YOU got a point.. i just thought that it would be fun and if i was about to kill someone i'd make sure no one was looking so they can't catch me 'cause they couldn't see me.. but as i said, i didn't know if it would work

crusade2007
02-08-2007, 07:31 PM
well, i'm not sure that you'll even be able to pick up new weapons such as a better sword from a recently killed victim. that would be awesome. i believe that the crossbow can only be used one time in a fight. in one video, he throws the crossbow out. oh, and his four daggers. i have no idea about those. i believe that they're usable because in another video it shows him killing two guys, each with his switch blade and than stabbing a guy in the back. that might be one of his daggers.

WildDog9
02-08-2007, 08:39 PM
crusade2007, I am not saying you're wrong, but your main goal is to kill your target. Once you kill the target, if you are surrounded by guards, would you try to grab a sword?

noobfun
02-09-2007, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by crusade2007:
i believe that the crossbow can only be used one time in a fight. in one video, he throws the crossbow out. oh, and his four daggers. i have no idea about those. i believe that they're usable because in another video it shows him killing two guys, each with his switch blade and than stabbing a guy in the back. that might be one of his daggers.

watch the video closely his crossbow appears and disappears at random he has it again near the end

Jade redmond has confirmed throwing daggers in an interview i saw on video google so thats what the 4 daggers on his belt are

if you really want me to find the interview out lemme know and ill go try and find it again

RetiredHatch
02-10-2007, 11:03 AM
I'd like to see the interview if it's easily findable but if it's too hard to find don't worry about it i know how hard it is to find interviews http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

noobfun
02-10-2007, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by RetiredHatch:
I'd like to see the interview if it's easily findable but if it's too hard to find don't worry about it i know how hard it is to find interviews http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

omg 29 pages later of redone trailers most dubbed with new music

throwing daggers interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWBjQjSgaOk)

ive gotta include this one(of the redubbed videos) for comedy relief

captain altair sparrow ?? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkDh-tx29Y)

crusade2007
02-11-2007, 05:52 PM
Yeah, your probably right noobfun. I'll check out that video. Don't worry about looking for the interview. I'll try to find it. I think I found it some time before, just haven't watched it yet. But thanks anyway.

BHRedNeck
02-12-2007, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by crusade2007:
well, i'm not sure that you'll even be able to pick up new weapons such as a better sword from a recently killed victim. that would be awesome. i believe that the crossbow can only be used one time in a fight.

Many of the weppons that are picked up off dead solders (if you can even do that) probally would not be much of a upgrade. I mean the guy is supposed to be a professional of sorts, and i am shure that his sword is sharper than any average solder.

Dark_Assassin92
02-12-2007, 06:09 PM
I agree with redneck... It would be cool to pick up new weapons but it probley wouldnt help much.. I mean it would be cool to grab a enemy sword then lunge it into a guy and run away leaving the sword there... or when someone is swinging at you with the sword, you use the "hands without weapons" button to grab onto it, steel it and lunge it into him, leave it inside him then climb some building...

pieceout92
02-12-2007, 10:18 PM
yeah leaving a guy to bleed to death with his own sword stuck in his stomach would be cool

KnightTemplar45
02-21-2007, 06:06 PM
I figured this would be the right thread to bring this up in:

Has there been any talk of a mission in which you have to infiltrate a castle, or something of the like, in order to assassinate someone? Ya know kinda get all Middle Age Splinter Cell on their asses. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

Ebai1990
02-22-2007, 08:53 AM
i'm not saying there won't be, but it was kind of their thing to make big spectacles out of the assassinations. they liked to do them in public. big crowds and things like that.

RetiredHatch
02-22-2007, 02:52 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

AC__fo__PS3
02-27-2007, 01:18 PM
I think ive found the hand-to-hand combat system that the producers might incorporate

"the Hashshashin practiced a fighting style called Janna which incorporates striking techniques, grappling and low kicks"

noobfun
03-02-2007, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by AC__fo__PS3:
I think ive found the hand-to-hand combat system that the producers might incorporate

"the Hashshashin practiced a fighting style called Janna which incorporates striking techniques, grappling and low kicks"

had a quick look around found 1 reference to janna as a fighting style .... on wiki where you got that from

did find this

Adam and Eden: Accadian words which are repeated 24 times. A more correct term for "Adam" in Arabic would be basharan or insan, meaning "mankind." "Eden" would be the word janna in Arabic, which means "garden."

i think this is an attempted linking to the magical garden myth .....

Am3rican_Sniper
05-09-2007, 07:07 PM
I think they should have a way to distract peopls attention like u use your crossbow to kill an inoccent victim so that the whole crowd will look over at the fallen victim while they all are looking u come up and kill your man.

tailstriker
05-14-2007, 02:15 AM
Originally posted by aalataur:
I hope that the game will show blood. Because a real medieval warfare was gory. It was WAY more gory than modern day firearm combat. A bullet makes a nice clean hole, a blade, not so nice at all. Capitations and such will make AC unsuitable for teens, but great games are never made with compromises. Not on a basic realism issue like this. Please, make it gory. Make it real.

Not exactly true. Holes are smaller yes, but a modern .50cal LMG can make a sufficient mess of somebody. Even a .40 or 9mm pistol firing the right ammunition can make a mess of things (look up hollowpoint and frangible ammunition).

ElKvass
05-14-2007, 08:08 AM
Hollow points ain't allowed in wars. Some might use them because they are much more efficient but that's gonna get them in a lot of trouble when the war is over. Anyways I hope that there will be a blood flow when you pull out the blade and that they will end up lying in a puddle of blood after you kill them.

tailstriker
05-15-2007, 10:54 PM
i was referring more to his "nice clean hole" comment rather then neat war comment. We all know IED's or grenades can splash people all over walls, but bullets can and do make a mess of things as well.

fiso16
05-25-2007, 04:16 PM
its was also mentioned that the crossbow could also some how turn into an axe


what do you think

chewie1890
05-25-2007, 07:39 PM
I believe that was refuted. Not positive though so I could be wrong.

Fedayee13
05-25-2007, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by Drunkspleen:
According to Wikipedia:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> ...they were careful to cultivate their terrifying reputation by slaying their victims in public, often in mosques. Typically they approached using a disguise; their weapon of choice was a dagger, rejecting poison, bows and other weapons that allowed the attacker to escape. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe a grandmaster's nickname was "The Physician" for his use of poisons, his name currently eludes me.

danirivera12
05-25-2007, 11:28 PM
Dude right there its saying rejecting poisons!!!!!

noobfun
05-25-2007, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by Fedayee13:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Drunkspleen:
According to Wikipedia:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> ...they were careful to cultivate their terrifying reputation by slaying their victims in public, often in mosques. Typically they approached using a disguise; their weapon of choice was a dagger, rejecting poison, bows and other weapons that allowed the attacker to escape. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe a grandmaster's nickname was "The Physician" for his use of poisons, his name currently eludes me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

your so thinking of 'The Island of Dr. Moreau' and that films about 1/2 man 1/2 beast muntants and a mad professor not nizari

Ghost477
05-26-2007, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by noobfun:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AC__fo__PS3:
I think ive found the hand-to-hand combat system that the producers might incorporate

"the Hashshashin practiced a fighting style called Janna which incorporates striking techniques, grappling and low kicks"

had a quick look around found 1 reference to janna as a fighting style .... on wiki where you got that from

did find this

Adam and Eden: Accadian words which are repeated 24 times. A more correct term for "Adam" in Arabic would be basharan or insan, meaning "mankind." "Eden" would be the word janna in Arabic, which means "garden."

i think this is an attempted linking to the magical garden myth ..... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>That is wrong information. Ibn Adam (ابن آدم) means basharan (بشرا) or insan (إنسان), meaning "mankind". In Arabic, we call Eden "Hawa'a" (*واء).

noobfun
05-26-2007, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by Ghost477:
That is wrong information. Ibn Adam (ابن آدم) means basharan (بشرا) or insan (إنسان), meaning "mankind". In Arabic, we call Eden "Hawa'a" (*واء).

thanks ^_^ i dont speak arabic so just ran janna through a search engine and looked for anything remotley related to anything

i guess janna exists in only 1 place on the internet .. wiki .... guess we wont be adding janna to the all known facts thread lol

Ghost477
05-26-2007, 05:12 PM
Haha, yeah. I searched for it too... So far nothing besides Wiki.

Fedayee13
05-26-2007, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by noobfun:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fedayee13:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Drunkspleen:
According to Wikipedia:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> ...they were careful to cultivate their terrifying reputation by slaying their victims in public, often in mosques. Typically they approached using a disguise; their weapon of choice was a dagger, rejecting poison, bows and other weapons that allowed the attacker to escape. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe a grandmaster's nickname was "The Physician" for his use of poisons, his name currently eludes me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

your so thinking of 'The Island of Dr. Moreau' and that films about 1/2 man 1/2 beast muntants and a mad professor not nizari </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Really? I was thinking of Sheikh Rashid ed-Din Sinan. That Dr. Moreau tidbit is a nice bit of information, but I was referencing Rashid Sinan, who was a Nizari and a Grand Master. Its fine, though. WIkipedia is not always right, you know.

JGaSSaSSinS78
05-26-2007, 06:25 PM
In one of the interviews Jade mentions that you will be able to use one of the analog sticks to direct where you want do an action.

Do you think we will be able to slash or stab in specific areas for maximim damage

noobfun
05-26-2007, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by Fedayee13:

Really? I was thinking of Sheikh Rashid ed-Din Sinan. That Dr. Moreau tidbit is a nice bit of information, but I was referencing Rashid Sinan, who was a Nizari and a Grand Master. Its fine, though. WIkipedia is not always right, you know.

lmfao sinan ran the syrian nizari sect, and didnt poison anyone. it was al-din sinan btw

most of the myths about hassan i sabbah , were actually made up about sinan. this guy was seriously feared by pretty much everyone. he WAS the old man of the mountain and he helped cultivate many of the myths surrounding him, such as his mind reading, and being able to talk to animals move objects with his mind etc

and if your calling him grand master your source probabily linked them with all the other super awesome secret societies as grand masters a term usually found within european heirachical strauctures such as the knights templar

Fedayee13
05-27-2007, 12:34 PM
The only reason I use Grand Master is that boss sounds a little weak. The term is also used in Dr. Haha Lung's Assassin. And no, the book did not link the Assassins with the other "secret societies" of Europe. Even when he did not lead the Hashashin, he still used poisons. Poisons were actually used to a very effective end by the Hashashin.
Also, I did not mean the original grandmaster I meant the fourth (I'm guessing). Different "Sinan".

Tsunande
06-03-2007, 12:44 PM
Okay, this is a little off topic because u guys are talking about poisons and arabic stuff

Anyway, I found some info about the "crossbow useable for long range or not" question. And I think you can't use it for long range because on the "only facts" topic someone said " Fact: You will be given a feather before you go on a assassination. When you have completed the assassination you will have to whipe the feather through the target's blood and then return the feather to the bureau leader as proof of your deed." that means you cant kill someone from distance because you have to have proof that you killed him. (if this has already been discussed say so and I will delete this on request)

"All Known Facts about Assassin's Creed" (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5701064934/p/2)

Oshikai
06-03-2007, 01:40 PM
Yes I was thinknig the same about the crossobw, but, maybe if it is a more public assassination then the feather may not be required. like in the first trailer.

DeViLsMiraGe
06-03-2007, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by Oshikai:
Yes I was thinknig the same about the crossobw, but, maybe if it is a more public assassination then the feather may not be required. like in the first trailer.


Ill just stab my victim in the neck with the feather lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif loool

Tsunande
06-03-2007, 02:40 PM
I say just wait a 118 days and we'll know exactly how everything will be http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (OMG! we have to wait 118 days till Assassin's Creed is out! I'll never survive that!)

edit:
118 days? There is no official release date. I'm almost sure there is, it was on the Ubi site when you look up the game. I'll post it when I find the URL

Edit2: http://www.ubi.com/NO/Games/Info.aspx?pId=5180

moqqy
06-03-2007, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by Tsunande:
I say just wait a 118 days and we'll know exactly how everything will be http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (OMG! we have to wait 118 days till Assassin's Creed is out! I'll never survive that!)
118 days? There is no official release date.

noobfun
06-03-2007, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by Fedayee13:
The only reason I use Grand Master is that boss sounds a little weak. The term is also used in Dr. Haha Lung's Assassin. And no, the book did not link the Assassins with the other "secret societies" of Europe. Even when he did not lead the Hashashin, he still used poisons. Poisons were actually used to a very effective end by the Hashashin.
Also, I did not mean the original grandmaster I meant the fourth (I'm guessing). Different "Sinan".



Knights of Darkness: Secrets of the World's Deadliest Night Fighters (Paperback)
by Hala Lung (Author)


Book Description
Throughout history, elite night time fighters move under the cover of darkness, silently and unseen, stalking and neutralizing their enemies with unparalleled skill. The Iga and Koga ninja clans of medieval Japan, the deadly Moshu Nanren of China, the hwarang of Korea, the Middle East's fabled hashishin assassins, the Norse Ulfhedinn and North Vietnam's Vietcong all possessed stealth secrets that enabled them to neutralise any opponent. Dr. Haha Lung reveals the tactics of these superior warriors with both a historical narrative as well as tactics and guidance.

he isnt trying to link them to all the other secret societies out there, he is trying to make them ninja

ok anything he writes is going to be as reliable as marco polo

YES the nizari had all the secret stealth and darkness techinques of walking up in broad day light and stabbing you in the chest, or working for you as a servant, gardener, tutor, advisor, guard (anything that would allow them in close proximity) and stabbing you in the chest

also there was no sinan that ruled at alamut, and there was only 1 sinan that ruled at the syrian nizari held lands, poison like the use of bows were ignored for assinations as they couldnt be easily linked back to the nizari, they wanted everyone to know when they killed someone fear of assasination kept them fairly safe from invasion for many many years

Tornadium
06-09-2007, 10:41 AM
Personally from what ive read i recognise that the switchblade is a signiture weapon of the Assassins. However it would be a real shame to limit someones playstyle because of a game mechanic. I believe i read somewhere that the switchblade was the only way you could kill your mark and that it was only used for that.

I really don't like that idea i was looking forward to jumping from a roof impaling my target with a sword instead of just stabbing him with a switchblade. It would also be nice to kill the mark with a crossbow or throwing knife however i read that you need to make it clear that it was you who actually killed him not some other enemy. So maybe after he is dead you throw your crossbow into the crowd to attract attention?

moqqy
06-09-2007, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by Tornadium:
Personally from what ive read i recognise that the switchblade is a signiture weapon of the Assassins. However it would be a real shame to limit someones playstyle because of a game mechanic. I believe i read somewhere that the switchblade was the only way you could kill your mark and that it was only used for that.

I really don't like that idea i was looking forward to jumping from a roof impaling my target with a sword instead of just stabbing him with a switchblade. It would also be nice to kill the mark with a crossbow or throwing knife however i read that you need to make it clear that it was you who actually killed him not some other enemy. So maybe after he is dead you throw your crossbow into the crowd to attract attention?

what do you mean? why would you throw your crossbow into the crowd? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Tornadium
06-09-2007, 11:20 AM
Well someone posted you need to show it was you so throw your crossbow from the roof or somthing into the crowd to get them to look at you :P

moqqy
06-09-2007, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by Tornadium:
Well someone posted you need to show it was you so throw your crossbow from the roof or somthing into the crowd to get them to look at you :P

lol that would be silly wouldnt it now.. carry a crossbow just to throw it from a roof to get the attention? well... its very likely that only one or few people notice it in a busy street and you certainly have better ways to get attention than throwing a mini crossbow to the crowd

MoveMeant
06-09-2007, 04:54 PM
Well, i have been looking the last few pages through. It looks like people are agreeing that the only weapon you can kill your targets with is the switchblade. I think not as, This pic shows Altair fighting with one who looks like a target. Altair figting possible target (http://media.ubi.com/emea/assassinscreed/hires/assassinscreed_hires_02.jpg)

moqqy
06-09-2007, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by MoveMeant:
Well, i have been looking the last few pages through. It looks like people are agreeing that the only weapon you can kill your targets with is the switchblade. I think not as, This pic shows Altair fighting with one who looks like a target. Altair figting possible target (http://media.ubi.com/emea/assassinscreed/hires/assassinscreed_hires_02.jpg)

how is he possible target? just because he looks a little different doesnt mean hes the target.. he could be yes but i think that hes just a guard / captain

Thumper1980
06-09-2007, 08:55 PM
I know theres a crossbow...
But would anyone else besides me like to see a longbow?

knife_X
06-09-2007, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by Thumper1980:
I know theres a crossbow...
But would anyone else besides me like to see a longbow?

No, heres why, Longbows are a european weapon and wasnt used by arabians they had their own bows... this is not Robin Hood!

moqqy
06-09-2007, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by knife_X:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Thumper1980:
I know theres a crossbow...
But would anyone else besides me like to see a longbow?

No, heres why, Longbows are a european weapon and wasnt used by arabians they had their own bows... this is not Robin Hood! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

but the europeans were the crusaders, the game takes place in the 3rd crusade as you probably know, if the long bow proved a good weapon, there is no reason the assassins shouldn't master it.. but, i think its kinda unpractical for quick assassinations and get aways, but who knows maybe we'll get one

rippers1991
06-10-2007, 05:18 AM
to be honest if he has a bow wouldnt it be a short bow?? isn't that what asains used in the crusades wars?? and he could just sling that onto his back easy...but i think a long bow would be abit unpraticle...

-rippers

MoveMeant
06-10-2007, 05:24 AM
how is he possible target? just because he looks a little different doesnt mean hes the target.. he could be yes but i think that hes just a guard / captain

I think he is some kind of target, maybe the target in the demo shown long ago.http://assassinscreed.us.ubi.com/images/screenshots/ENLARGE_12.jpg

moqqy
06-10-2007, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by MoveMeant:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">how is he possible target? just because he looks a little different doesnt mean hes the target.. he could be yes but i think that hes just a guard / captain

I think he is some kind of target, maybe the target in the demo shown long ago.http://assassinscreed.us.ubi.com/images/screenshots/ENLARGE_12.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ah yeah he looks like the target from the demo, didn't notice.

but anyways... i think you can kill your target with any melee weapon, since your mission would be pretty much failed at the situation where you get noticed and you need to use your sword -
i mean you would need to switch to the hidden blade and drop your longsword while the target has a sword and probably guards around.

VIGILANT_ONE
06-10-2007, 10:15 PM
With the whole crossbow thing i'm guessing from the size of it, its only for low range situations it probably can't go further then 10 metres, im not actually sure of this, but i think thats how it will be

Thumper1980
06-10-2007, 10:59 PM
A crossbow?
10 meters?
Where are you getting your info from friend?

moqqy
06-11-2007, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by Thumper1980:
A crossbow?
10 meters?
Where are you getting your info from friend?

lmao 10 meters.. thats really good

Tornadium
06-11-2007, 11:39 AM
Afaik Crossbows can fire at a distance of 50+ feet? 10 meters is awfully short.

soggypizza
06-11-2007, 02:33 PM
about only being able to kill your target with the switchblade look at this trailer it shows Altair attack the guy with a sword

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcgW-v2tUrI

Tornadium
06-11-2007, 02:39 PM
Thats the targets sword. Look at Altair's left hand its drawn back like its about to strike.

SmokehtheFirst
06-11-2007, 02:49 PM
I think that you should be able to use the switchblade in combat, but I'm also perfectly fine with it being just used for assassinations.

deskp
06-12-2007, 02:37 AM
longbows, 10 meters.. is that so har to belive? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

noobfun
06-12-2007, 03:28 AM
Originally posted by deskpe:
longbows, 10 meters.. is that so har to belive? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

lmao this is hilarious

english longbows could pierce armour at 300 yards easily

cross bows with a 10 meter range? you can fire toilet paper out of a macdonalds straw that far, maybe he has a bit of string tied to the end of the bolt like a fishing bow -_-

chances are he would field a composite bow as a opposed to a long bow, it was widley used in the east was smaller and still had great strength and power

most crusaders archers would have used cross bows, even the english used cross bows as the long bow of english fame was used but didnt earn its reputation for decimating armies until the 13th century

pictures of a saracen bow can be found here (http://feudalarchery.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/ThoughtsandSpeculationsArcherybows.htm) just scroll down a bit

kartkid455
06-12-2007, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by SmokehtheFirst:
I think that you should be able to use the switchblade in combat, but I'm also perfectly fine with it being just used for assassinations.

in one of the trailers he jumps off a building and lands on a guard impalling him in the neck with the switchblade

MoveMeant
06-12-2007, 05:56 PM
in one of the trailers he jumps off a building and lands on a guard impalling him in the neck with the switchblade

I dont think he uses the switchbalde to kill the guard. As it is said in a interview, Altair has a target, to reach that target he is willing to murder guards to both get to the target and to survive, but he dosnt kill them just to kill. His only goal is to assassinate some guy which he has been assigned to do.

So because of that i dont think he would kill that poor guard dude. Just to soften his landing. I dont know if the guard dies or get knocked unconsius but it would serve no purpose that after having totaly bashed him to the ground then **** him up like that, you know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

... but i hope the switchblade will be a weapon useable in combat http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SmokehtheFirst
06-12-2007, 10:24 PM
I didn't think I saw Altair draw his switchblade when he leapt on that guard, maybe I should watch it again.

I think it'd just be cool to be running away from guards and maybe if one guard turns the corner in front of you and stands in your way, you could draw the switchblade and punch him in the face with it out XD

Beren111
06-14-2007, 12:06 PM
after altair had made his assassination hewas on the run and when he did his free running/parkour thing he jumped from the top of a building and landed on a guard and the way altairs hand and the guards body movemnt look like altair killed him with the switch blade

slaptheDenozo
06-14-2007, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by Beren111:
after altair had made his assassination hewas on the run and when he did his free running/parkour thing he jumped from the top of a building and landed on a guard and the way altairs hand and the guards body movemnt look like altair killed him with the switch blade

hmm I watched that scene a few times and paused it at every possible frame and I saw no switchblade drawn.. I think he just landed on the guard.

MoveMeant
06-14-2007, 05:38 PM
Yeah, He dosnt kill the guards because he think its fun but to keep them from killing him. And the jump from the building should be more that enough to knock the soldier unconsius so why `kill him for sure and no reason?

xFatalcorpsx
06-14-2007, 07:44 PM
a lightsaber!!!! he should be able to cut people down with it =P lightsabers FTW

VIGILANT_ONE
06-15-2007, 07:16 AM
Originally posted by Thumper1980:
A crossbow?
10 meters?
Where are you getting your info from friend?

not a longbow.. a crossbow i'm not saying its an absolute 100% but for one thing how close was altair to his target and have u seen the crossbow!? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif its so mini it fits perfectly in his hand. So there could be a slight chance that its only for short range situations.

They wouldn't make it as thought you can shoot your target from 50 metres away. I'm not saying i'm right, it's just a little guess.

Enough Said.

noobfun
06-15-2007, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by VIGILANT_ONE:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Thumper1980:
A crossbow?
10 meters?
Where are you getting your info from friend?

not a longbow.. a crossbow i'm not saying its an absolute 100% but for one thing how close was altair to his target and have u seen the crossbow!? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif its so mini it fits perfectly in his hand. So there could be a slight chance that its only for short range situations.

They wouldn't make it as thought you can shoot your target from 50 metres away. I'm not saying i'm right, it's just a little guess.

Enough Said. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> well a medieval cross bow could fire over 250 yards making it a little smaller wouldnt reduce the range 25 times now would it, you can throw knives accuratley 10 meters

lilnick1357
06-15-2007, 11:35 AM
Well u couldnt really sucesfuly kill ur target with the crossbow without the escape part because u still have to wipe the feather in his blood.

quicksilver_502
06-15-2007, 12:12 PM
in one of the early vids altair is fighting some guards with his switchblade.

RetiredHatch
06-15-2007, 12:45 PM
oh when? i dont recall that

Beren111
06-15-2007, 12:49 PM
neither do i i see him punching them but not with the switch blade

KnightTemplar45
06-15-2007, 01:20 PM
Ok, since I don't know how to post images, I'm going to have to rely on you guys. In a screenshot of the Leap Of Faith (the one where you can see all the surrounding territory and stuff), if you look at Altair's right shoulder you can see 2 throwing knives. Until now, we've only seen them on his belt thingy. Does this mean you can completely customize where he carries hiw weapons?



here's a link to the screenshot, it's towards the bottom : http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/4291001765

Beren111
06-15-2007, 01:24 PM
knowing altair hes got knives everywherer (in his shoes his hood up his a**) all sorts but it would be cool if you could customise

KnightTemplar45
06-15-2007, 01:26 PM
haha, I'd hate to get hit with the one from his a** http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

Beren111
06-15-2007, 01:31 PM
mmmmm poison blade (yuk)

nvanburen
06-17-2007, 01:59 PM
do u think he will be able to pickup weapons off the ground for temporary use? that would be awesome http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

Airios
06-17-2007, 03:09 PM
To what point and purpose would he pick up another person's weapon. Is he going to drop his weapon? I think not.

Of course, I'll feel like an a** if he can drop his weapon or be disarmed.

There should be a method of disarming though...

wh0le.
06-17-2007, 05:27 PM
I'm not sure if this has been said previously or not, but I don't think the switchblade could withstand a heavy blow from a sword in defense if it came to the sort of combat people are imagining; thus the reason why he carries a sword on his waist.

I also do not believe he could dodge every attack that comes at him, especially when outnumbered even if he is quite dextrous and agile, with his switchblade. Like said before in various articles and interviews, all it takes is one fatal blow to end his life.

Another point I'd like to bring up is the fact that the switchblade is mechanical and complicated, and if I were in Altair's position, I would not like to risk it getting broken in the heat of battle/assassination as it could probably prove to be difficult to prepare.

The switchblade is used to pierce the target easily to get to a vital organ or a fatal spot. It is also his (obvious) weapon of choice for assassination as it is easily concealed and only visible if/when triggered by his pinky.

Sorry for my long rant =) Once I get started, I couldn't stop!!

VIGILANT_ONE
06-18-2007, 12:22 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif Maybe you can block em but i still wouldn't use it that much. only if you parry a guard and then you could take it out for a short time and impale his neck or something..

Just an idea http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

moqqy
06-18-2007, 04:14 AM
I watched the trailer and noticed two bottles at altairs back..

Anyone got ideas what these could be?

http://i8.tinypic.com/4m85dzn.jpg

BTW: Download the ubidays trailer from the mainsite for better quality.

chewie1890
06-18-2007, 11:53 AM
Obviously their sugar vials just in case he needs a shot of energy... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

robo_turtle
06-18-2007, 01:19 PM
mini nunchucks silly!

noobfun
06-18-2007, 02:50 PM
i thought they were salt and pepper shakers for the gourmet assassin on the move

or spare batteries for the wrist blade

tailstriker
06-18-2007, 03:40 PM
And here i thought they were like those things that you are supposed to grip and squeeze to get rid of tension.

slaptheDenozo
06-18-2007, 07:29 PM
if you pause it a little earlier you can see that they are red soo.. mabye that will restore your health cause everyone knows health vials are red http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

borat1985
06-19-2007, 01:01 AM
perhaps its just for show to look good

like this flame on this demon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif it doesn't do anything just looks good

moqqy
06-19-2007, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by borat1985:
perhaps its just for show to look good

like this flame on this demon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif it doesn't do anything just looks good

yes two red bottles look absolutely amazing must be just for show..