-------> SCDA Versus Feedback Thread <------- [Archive]

m4_007

08-01-2006, 08:48 AM

I'm kind of tired of seeing flamewars everywere, so heh, I thought why not having a go at this .. It's very simple. Each person posts 3 positive things, and 3 negative things, based on the video's/reviews they seen.

Let's have a look at how UbiRazz originally presented this:

Originally posted by UbiRazz:

I'd like each of you who wishes to participate to post three positive and three negative things (or as many as you can, max of three) about what you've seen so far. Each point should have a short, clear, succint paragraph to support it and explain it fully - so no four page long detailed descriptions please :Wink:

For this you can use the bullet numbering feature. Here is an example of the code in a post :
<hr class="ev_code_hr" />
<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">
Positive:

Blah
Bleh
Bloh

Negative:

Bah
Beh
Boh

Comments: (Maximum of 4 lines.)
</pre>
It will show up like this :
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Positive:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Blah
<LI>Bleh
<LI>Bloh
[/list]
Negative:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Bah
<LI>Beh
<LI>Boh
[/list]
Comments: Thank you !

m4_007

08-01-2006, 08:48 AM

I'm kind of tired of seeing flamewars everywere, so heh, I thought why not having a go at this .. It's very simple. Each person posts 3 positive things, and 3 negative things, based on the video's/reviews they seen.

Let's have a look at how UbiRazz originally presented this:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UbiRazz:

I'd like each of you who wishes to participate to post three positive and three negative things (or as many as you can, max of three) about what you've seen so far. Each point should have a short, clear, succint paragraph to support it and explain it fully - so no four page long detailed descriptions please :Wink:
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

For this you can use the bullet numbering feature. Here is an example of the code in a post :
<hr class="ev_code_hr" />
<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">
Positive:

Blah
Bleh
Bloh

Negative:

Bah
Beh
Boh

Comments: (Maximum of 4 lines.)
</pre>
It will show up like this :
<hr class="ev_code_hr" />

Positive:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Blah
<LI>Bleh
<LI>Bloh
[/list]
Negative:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Bah
<LI>Beh
<LI>Boh
[/list]
Comments: Thank you !

braiog

08-01-2006, 08:58 AM

Positive:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI> Game finally got moved into a decent engine with lots of eye candy and special effects.
<LI> The supposed sound seems to be VERY intrical and well done - hopefully the way it ports from XB360 to PC's EAX and positional surround is done well
<LI> You finally progressed the game. Kudos to the team for giving SvM to the PC and keeping the game fresh.
[/list]

Negative:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI> Reintroduce a Classic Mode that brings back the Spie/Merc abilities/restrictions for players who demand more stealth in this run-n-gun style game
<LI>Please listen to the community and patch the game according to our wishes. It's not an ego thing, it just makes your community happier. (Downloadable content couldn't hurt either!)
<LI>Netcode. Make it lean n mean. If you can't do netcode, admit your weakness and outsource people who can! Bad netcode can break a good game easily.
[/list]
Comments: I love Mountain Dew. If you're gonna have advertisements in game like you do with all games, why not have some static posters of Mountain Dew in every map. It's the bestestest.

psyichic

08-01-2006, 08:59 AM

Very nice idea M4

Possitive
<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>increased level interactivity<LI>new innovative hacking method<LI>new faster athletic moves[/list]

Negative
<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>loss of high tension stelath (being near a merc without him knowing it)<LI>Spies lost defensive capabilities<LI>game is skewed away from stealth and towards action[/list]

Comment: Game has lost its overall stealthiness to go to a more action oriented game type. Game does though have more of a "cool" effect with graphics ragdolls, larger interactive levels"

RowdySpy1990

08-01-2006, 09:11 AM

Positive:

<LI>3 vs 3 multiplayer form
<LI>Better connection with sam in SP
<LI>Bigger maps on versus

Negative:

<LI>Not as many new things for spies
<LI>versus gameplay went into another direction
<LI>Game delayed until October(which isn't that bad)

Ninja343

08-01-2006, 09:50 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Positive:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI> The Spy has a less clunky feal. Moves more like a Ninja.
<LI> The Spy gadget: Wi-fi hacker is a nice improvment.
<LI> The new Upgrade feature for playing Challenge Mode is very cool.
[/list]

Negative:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Lost alot of good gadgets: Sticky cam, Shocker gun, Spy bullet, ect.
<LI>(Unconfirmed) Smoke does nothing to effect the Merc but vision limitations.
<LI>The loss of passive defences is truelly sad. Takes away from the "feal" of Splinter Cell.
[/list]
Comments: </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Game still looks awsome!

IonG.O.D.

08-01-2006, 10:00 AM

Positives:
<LI>New Moves
<LI>New engine
<LI>Hoepfully better netcode

Negatives:
<LI> New Bugs, Glitches and Exploits (Bound to happen)
<LI>People Complaining
<LI>Possibly different type of gameplay (I don't mean no stealth, I mean just different in the way of new game, new stuff)

IceJazz

08-01-2006, 10:02 AM

Negative:
- no tactical gadget anymore (cam, spy bullet, mine, ...) !!
- "global download" (spies can win hacking only the same objective)
- no CT or PT maps (?)

Positive:
- random objective positions
- new "anti aggro spy" policy
- new moves

Comment:
the Versus we know is becoming a "hack and run" game. SCVersus was a real revolutionary game.
I'm *really* disapointed by the new direction of the game.

Iservealot

08-01-2006, 10:23 AM

Positive:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Downloadable, updated content planned for after release date.
<LI>Some kind of editor planned
<LI>Game uses next generation techniques, and graphics.
[/list]

Negative:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Editor won't come out of the box
<LI>I still see use of the old, rough shadow engine in some videos.
<LI>the "Green base if being hacked!" voice will get very annoying.
[/list]

All in all, it is looking good!

sonkev1

08-01-2006, 10:25 AM

Positive:

<LI>New moves
<LI>FINALLY a new engine
<LI>wireless hacking should be fun

Negative:

<LI>PD device taking away stealth in a stealth game
<LI>Stealth removed~
<LI>action without stealth added~

COMMENTS:
I didnt see one video where the merc didnt know where the spies were, i wanted the versus to be like the merc actually looking for the spy, and they didnt know they were there

now there like oh i hear some beeping, let me look around at the 2 decent hiding spots within this diameter ITS STUPID

when the merc knows your within 15 feet, that cuts off all chance of a stealthy/sneaky neckgrab!!!

no else can tell me they loved the feeling of grabing a merc and they didnt even know you were there?!?!

***PD is cool in Team Hack, but if I find that it is in DM, heads will roll...***

Lord_Bawls

08-01-2006, 10:35 AM

On the subject of the new SvM for DA:

Positive:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>The new mode will attract new players
<LI>New players will stay around longer
<LI>The new mode looks like it will be fun to play casually
[/list]

Negative:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Many gadgets have been removed
<LI>Static level defenses appear to be gone
<LI>Veteran players will most likely become bored with the new mode
[/list]

Basically, the new mode will be great for newbies, but I feel the veterans will get bored with it pretty quickly. So what I've done in my thread is suggest the implementation of a "Classic" mode for downloadable content in the future (wouldn't even have to be the near future, months after launch would be okay!). Petition in sig, if you agree.

SplintacellDA

08-01-2006, 10:55 AM

posotive

- new hacking ability looks kick *** (break windows, ect.)
- the spy in and merc apearences are bad ***, and you can download new skins and other stuff when you level up
- Spys escape moves are cool and also how theyre speed is amazing

negative

- i dont want to be one to complain about the PD but it really does suck. Unless its used as like a gas mask it will kill stealth.
- delayed till october,WTF UBI!!
- co-op isnt included on 360 and pc which is B.S.

Rhoulette

08-01-2006, 11:16 AM

<span class="ev_code_pink">Great start, guys. Thanks for getting this going, M4. It should fit in well with some other stuff we are going to be doing. Please keep the feedback coming. </span>

psyichic

08-01-2006, 11:18 AM

Sorry to not post a list but guys this is on VERSUS as said in the title "Versus Feedback Thread" can we keep it to versus and not delayed till october and comments on Coop?

Lord_Bawls

08-01-2006, 11:57 AM

To focus more on the proxy detector:

Positive:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>It is needed to detect spies when objectives can be done wirelessly
<LI>It eliminates the overly aggressive spy
<LI>It isn't as detailed in revealing locations as the sound reticule is
[/list]

Negative:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>While it removes the overly-aggro spy, it also removes "Smart Evasion"
<LI>As a result, some aspects of STEALTH are DISCOURAGED
<LI>Strategic thinking and smart evasion get you nowhere
[/list]

We all know the proxy kills aggro spies. But when a spy makes the time to crouch walk, to stop MT and noise, and hide in the dark behind an obstacle to let a merc slip by (and live, if you go for a neck the merc partners will show up) you should be rewarded with a better chance of success, not failure. Smart evasion is no more. If the PD didn't work on crouched spies, but was turned when spies hack, it'd work fine.

HIFIV31

08-01-2006, 12:17 PM

Positive:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Next-gen graphics.
<LI>New moves/gadgets.
<LI>Will bring new players.
[/list]

Negative:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>The vets will probably leave this game after a few months just like Halo 2.
<LI>Run and gun style gameplay, less stealth.
<LI>No more tense situations.
[/list]
Comments: Looks like they ruined a perfectly good stealth series.

Brutusn

08-01-2006, 12:41 PM

Posetive

- New engine
- New gameplay
- New hacking method

Negative

- Where is the old pt and ct versus play style that made the game popular (to at least a few)
- Where is the great shocker gun to escape?
- Looks like a game that can be turning into boring or good.

Comments: Hope ubi didn't fail by this choice.

brechtlec

08-01-2006, 01:01 PM

Positive
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Rethinking of the SvM, concentrating more ont the obj/teamwork and sneaking
<LI>The souplesse of the spies(athletic skills and moves for a clean escape)
<LI>Making the game more accesable to a bigger public(Pc-+-103players online and well mostly dm http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif and pro's)
[/list]
Negative
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>The sound of the guns is to loud and echoing(could cause headaches)
<LI>There should be a way to stop the recon drones(perhaps when you hack the merc while he is controling the drone)
<LI>The smokes should have a similar effect as in the previous games
[/list]

@sonkev1
I belive that there will be more stealth.
The spies have no defence so stealth is a MUST to survive.
If you Are detected the fast and acrobatic moves are also a must or you will be shot to easaly.
When you think of it.
It is well balanced http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

GameNeo2007

08-01-2006, 01:23 PM

Positive

-No more "old man spy" while climbing poles, rails, etc
- Merc's Gun sounding and looking fierce and terrifying.
- New Matchingmaking system.

Negative

-No sticky shocker
-No Penalties For running around as spy (No mines, spy trap.)
-Strategic thinking COMPLETLY gone.

Comment- Its no longer as who has the better wits, its who has the better aim.

Stealthy32

08-01-2006, 01:49 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by gameneo:
Positive

-No more "old man spy" while climbing poles, rails, etc
- Merc's Gun sounding and looking fierce and terrifying.
- New Matchingmaking system.

Negative

-No sticky shocker
-No Penalties For running around as spy (No mines, spy trap.)
-Strategic thinking COMPLETLY gone.

Comment- Its no longer as who has the better wits, its who has the better aim. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, i dont think its who has the better aim, I think its if the merc is lucky enough to choose the right room that you are in.

psyichic

08-01-2006, 02:33 PM

Keep it on topic please.

Engleburt

08-01-2006, 04:14 PM

Positive:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>New 3D map on Hud
<LI>Bots!
<LI>Pretty much everything else not on the negative list
[/list]

Negative:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>No sound detector
<LI>No passive defences or traps
<LI>Not as many toys (gadgets) to play with
[/list]

Comment: I STILL believe that this game can be noob friendly and yet appeal to the hardcore!

Hypersonic916

08-01-2006, 04:26 PM

Positive:

1. 3 vs 3 gameplay
2. 1 gadget for each round. It makes it less confusing i believe when you have only one gadget to think about.

3. Awesome ragddog physics.
4. More intuitive, larger maps that seem balanced from what we've seen. (at least to me)
5. The hack tool: Everything about it. I'm gonna love powering off lights that stay off forever!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

6. A mansion level in multiplayer, what else must i say?

7. More maps for downlodable content.
8. It feels brand new, i'm glad it's the time for change.
9. Motion tracking built in visor. I'm glad it only detects spies that stand up and run around. I just hope it's not as sensitive as chaos theory.
10. A little music after you kill someone.
11. The whole map turns blue for a few seconds once an objective is hacked. It's easier to tell that it's been hacked now than in chaos theory.

Negatives:

1. Character models look decent, but ugly at the same time.
2. Decreased amount of stealth gameplay it looks like because of that proximity detector.
3. Not many ways to counter attack the proximity detector except by hacking the Merc.

4. The "unlimited", literally, ammo in their gun for Merc.
5. Grappling hook for Merc could seem a little unfair at times for the spy as the Merc can kind of get their quickly.
6. The drone for the Merc, it seems to abandon the element of stealth again.
7. Merc's seem overpowered and getting all the attention.
8. Decrease the sensitivity on the proximtity radar? Maybe make it only if spies are moving? Or have a gadget that a spy can use (like an alarm snare or something) to trick the Merc into thinking he's there if a Merc walks into that area and the spy really isn't there, it's the gadget.

9. Smoke grenade doesn't slow down or even choke the Merc. Put both or one of those effects in there.

That's what i feel about the game, but overall, it looks great! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif and still, i mean from what i saw, i don't think the proximity radar will be much of a hassle.

TacoLaMmY

08-01-2006, 04:52 PM

Positive:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Updated graphics engine
<LI>Excellent sound
<LI>Much more mobile spies and mercs (rapelling down the side of a building is http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
[/list]

Negative:
Don't really need to put a list here, just one major gripe. The new direction this..."gameplay" has taken, is quite frankly BS, a betrayal to the series. The PD might make sense and even be balanced in terms of the current gameplay, but it's so far off the path from the traditional stealth game, it doesn't matter to me. Run and gun for the lose.

Comments: Lot's going to have to change between now and October in terms of gameplay methodology to get me to pay money for this title.

Mikuliuss

08-02-2006, 07:09 AM

Positive
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Nice graphics
<LI>New moves
<LI>New hacking method
[/list]

Negative
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Stealth is GONE
<LI>Mercs PD
[/list]

snakies

08-02-2006, 08:40 AM

Positive:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Amazing lighting and shadows allow for better hide and seek
<LI>Smoother and quicker spy animations
<LI>Fresh game dynamics and new abilities for both spy and merc
[/list]

Negative:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Proxy detector is 100% accurate. There needs to be a way to create a false positive so that there exists a small doubt in the mercs mind that he may be searching for a ghost.
[/list]
Comments:
The game looks great!! Proximity detector is great!

SUGGESTIONS TO BALANCE PROXIMITY DETECTOR
<LI> make PD alert whenever anyone is near, merc or spy. Not only will it make the PD less than 100% accurate at signaling spy presence, but it will force mercs to stay spread out as to not register on each others PD.
-OR-
<LI> allow hacking of PD with no notification to merc of system malfunction.
-OR-
<LI> allow placement of gadget that sets off PD such as alarm snares.

DualX2

08-02-2006, 08:45 AM

Positive:

<UL TYPE=SQUARE>Everything. [/list]

Negative:

<UL TYPE=SQUARE>Everyone complaining about the Proximity Detector.
That ******ed petition trying to bring back the previous Versus mode.
Everyone that thinks they should replace the Proximity Detector with the Sound Detection. [/list]

TheThumb

08-02-2006, 10:33 AM

Positives:

# In combat spies seem to be more deffensive and Mercs more offensive.
# New Game Engine
# Fluid spy animations
#I appreciate that they wanted to freshen up and make the game more accesible

Negatives:

# From what I've seen it appears to be more of an action game now - loss of stealth
# Some loss of strategy due to lack of gadgets and setting up traps as merc
# I have to find a 3rd partner to play with

BONUS: Achievement points on XBox360!

DualX2

08-02-2006, 01:05 PM

I don't recall the rules saying otherwise...

So, unless you are a moderator (which we all know you are not) then quit trying to control people since you have no right to do so.

Chaotic_Cell

08-02-2006, 02:15 PM

Positive:

<LI>Dont have to play with Braiog

<LI>Don't have to play with Psychic

<LI>Everything in this game is awesome.

Negative:

<LI>Braiog isnt banned yet

<LI>Psychic isnt banned yet

<LI>Everyone complaining about this game ruinging stealth

DrCactus

08-02-2006, 02:31 PM

WOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

Hold on for one minute.

This is has good intentions but I don't see how any of this feedback can be usefull.

No one has played the game, yet we are providing feed back to the devs about it.
That makes no sense.

Most of the complaints are invalid because we haven't played the game. AT ALL! We don't know how balanced it will/won't be. We are all lacking information.

To me this feedback thread is not what devs should be looking at. I don't like the fact that this is being taken almost as official feed back about the game. If real feedback is what the devs want. Release a closed beta or something.

Riddiculous. This is all based on assumptions.

IonG.O.D.

08-02-2006, 02:40 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chaotic_Cell:
Positive:

<LI>Dont have to play with Braiog

<LI>Don't have to play with Psychic

<LI>Everything in this game is awesome.

Negative:

<LI>Braiog isnt banned yet

<LI>Psychic isnt banned yet

<LI>Everyone complaining about this game ruinging stealth </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I love it how every one wants the best people banned.

braiog

08-02-2006, 02:43 PM

Children are like that. You gotta remember, there's nothing as pure evil as a child. Malevolent and immaturity; shirking all responsibilities.

Chaotic_Cell

08-02-2006, 02:51 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by braiog:
Children are like that. You gotta remember, there's nothing as pure evil as a child. Malevolent and immaturity; shirking all responsibilities. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lol I feel like I'm reading the same post evrytime when you try and make an insult.

Th3C47

08-02-2006, 02:54 PM

Nobody's insulting you.

It's really funny actually how a guy who registered a week ago wants vets banned.

Chaotic_Cell

08-02-2006, 02:55 PM

Believe me I was here a lllonnng time since the beggiinging of PT

Chaotic_Cell

08-02-2006, 03:07 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by IonG.O.D.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chaotic_Cell:
Positive:

<LI>Dont have to play with Braiog

<LI>Don't have to play with Psychic

<LI>Everything in this game is awesome.

Negative:

<LI>Braiog isnt banned yet

<LI>Psychic isnt banned yet

<LI>Everyone complaining about this game ruinging stealth </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I love it how every one wants the best people banned. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lol the best people?

TFS_Jackie edit: No name calling on the forum please, guys.

IonG.O.D.

08-02-2006, 03:15 PM

TacoLaMmY

08-02-2006, 03:18 PM

Chaotic_Cell

08-02-2006, 03:18 PM

I don't see how they helped the community at all. They are just considered "vets" because they have been around since PT. Well guess what, so have I and I could care less if I don't help the community in any way.

Chaotic_Cell

08-02-2006, 03:21 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TacoLaMmY:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chaotic_Cell:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by IonG.O.D.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chaotic_Cell:
Positive:

<LI>Dont have to play with Braiog

<LI>Don't have to play with Psychic

<LI>Everything in this game is awesome.

Negative:

<LI>Braiog isnt banned yet

<LI>Psychic isnt banned yet

<LI>Everyone complaining about this game ruinging stealth </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I love it how every one wants the best people banned. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lol the best people? You must be a total suck up to them then. They are nothing more than ignorant brats who try to act as if they own this forum. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lol everything is fine? You must be a total ubi suck up to them then. They are nothing more than ignorant brats who try to act as if they own this game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you see me sucking up to Ubi? Just because I say I think that Ubi is doing a good job with the versus doesn't mean I'm sucking up to them. And why did you repeat the same sentence I did but replaced forum with "word".

TFS_Jackie edit: No name calling on the forum please, guys.

KrAzY1337

08-02-2006, 03:30 PM

Positive:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>No more Shotguns, mines and cheap movements for Mercenaries.
<LI>Spies become more stealthy, but runs really fast for escaping. And the use of the arm than a shock-gun that will remove lights and hack objectives than giving your oppononent seizures.
<LI>The flying drone to clean up airvents and hard-to-reach areas to kill any camping or idle spies.
[/list]

Negative:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Spy's goggles ends up like Sam's where it goes off and on from the screen. The goggles in Versus appears to be ON his face than his forehead. Makes it unrealistic a bit.
<LI>Mercenaries having vibration to detect nearby spies will be annoying, turned off or broken. Crosshair arrows will make it more fair to detect whether there are nearby spies or not. If it's vibrating, it will make lethal moves for spies completely useless.
<LI>Cloaking is gone if needed.
[/list]
Comments:
The new versus is great, but there are already a few noticable flaws though. A lot things have been kept fair and fixed up to balance out for the spies and the mercenaries. The multiplayer looks like it was set a year or two further from Sam Fisher.

TacoLaMmY

08-02-2006, 03:35 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chaotic_Cell:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TacoLaMmY:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chaotic_Cell:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by IonG.O.D.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chaotic_Cell:
Positive:

<LI>Dont have to play with Braiog

<LI>Don't have to play with Psychic

<LI>Everything in this game is awesome.

Negative:

<LI>Braiog isnt banned yet

<LI>Psychic isnt banned yet

<LI>Everyone complaining about this game ruinging stealth </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I love it how every one wants the best people banned. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lol the best people? You must be a total suck up to them then. They are nothing more than ignorant brats who try to act as if they own this forum. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lol everything is fine? You must be a total ubi suck up to them then. They are nothing more than ignorant brats who try to act as if they own this game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you see me sucking up to Ubi? Just because I say I think that Ubi is doing a good job with the versus doesn't mean I'm sucking up to them you dumba$$. And why did you repeat the same sentence I did but replaced forum with "word". </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just highlighting how hilariously e-tarded you are http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I often wonder if people who fail so horrendously as human beings on an impersonal medium such as the internet are also such huge mouth-breathing windowlickers in real life, or if you're just a classic example of gabriel's greater internet ****-wad theory http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Jackie Fiest

08-02-2006, 03:45 PM

Guys, please. This thread is for feedback on the upcoming SvM. Please, let's keep the bickering off the forum.

Chaotic_Cell

08-02-2006, 03:46 PM

Hey Jackie, have you got to play the SvM yet? Sorry for being offtopic.

Jackie Fiest

08-02-2006, 03:54 PM

Chaotic_Cell

08-02-2006, 03:58 PM

Awww don't worry.. If it makes you feel any better I never played it too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif. Anywho, what system will you get the game on? Please dont say PC http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

Jackie Fiest

08-02-2006, 03:59 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chaotic_Cell:
Awww don't worry.. If it makes you feel any better I never played it too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif. Anywho, what system will you get the game on? Please dont say PC http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL No. I'm an XBox'r.

Chaotic_Cell

08-02-2006, 04:08 PM

\Cool jackie, maybe we could team sometime http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Or go against each other http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

III_ICEMAN_III

08-02-2006, 05:17 PM

Positive:

-fresh ideas to keep it interesting
-hacking tool is money in the bank*
-finally an updated graphics engine
-grabs (footage from the vids) appear to have a larger "zone", making it a tad easier

Negative:

-I'm not really a vet, but veterans may be dissatisfied with the new direction of gameplay*
-smoke should probably have a similar effect to previous games.
- the white outline around spies seems like a handicap that didn't need to be added.*

**READ BELOW PLEASE!**

as a response to the three stars i placed above, i have comments to cover all of them. The hacking tool can shut off ALL electronic devices, including the "PD". remember that!

white outlines may be hackable!

also, i find that the veterans might appreciate the addition of the PD more because they have to find a strategic way around it. such as one spy hacking the mercs abilities, and the other moving in for a "stealth grab" that everyone seems to be cheesed about. thank you. i hope this helps some understand that the direction is not all that bad.

as long as mercernaries are UNAWARE when being hacked, i believe that all the comments i made above will hold up in gameplay.

thoughts are appreciated please!

DrCactus

08-02-2006, 06:43 PM

So, they are taking feed back on assuptions. GREAT!

Transcender

08-02-2006, 06:49 PM

Excellent thread idea btw M4. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Since I've never played Multiplayer online with SC yet,... YET... I can't say.... but this was an interesting read, no doubt. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

TFS_Jackie edit: edited to remove huge quote.

SCDuRiN

08-03-2006, 01:52 AM

<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
Positive:

<LI> 3 vs 3, makes it more fun
<LI> 3D map radar
<LI> Wireless hacking

Negative:

<LI> All gadgets removed
<LI> No coop
<LI> Proxy Detector

[/list]
UBI hit the aim by creating a game where the difference between a noob and an expert wont be as big as in Chaos Theory. I don't like that too much but I like the new mode in whole.

SSIops

08-03-2006, 02:03 AM

Positive
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Less offensive spies
<LI>New hacking method
<LI>Escape moves/increased agility for both spy and merc
[/list]

Negative
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Unlimited ammo for upsilon
<LI>No gun choices? i.e. Shotgun/rifle/uzi
<LI>Few spy gadget choices (so far)
[/list]

More Negative
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Not playing DA vs. today
<LI>Not playing DA vs. tomorrow
<LI>Or the day after
[/list]

SF4eva

08-03-2006, 02:32 AM

positive

-wireless hack
-new engine
-more than 1 spy suit (get more with ranks.. this is true, right?)
-(sorry to make 4 but..) spys MUCH quicker and no waiting for animations to fly through the different obstacles, i love how much smoother spies move now

negative

-spy can no longer get a satisfying neck grab due to PD (please make pd optional *crosses fingers*)
-no more elbow hit for spy
-merc's emf has the stand still meter bar(this isnt the least of my worries, i had a hard time thinking up a third negative)

Comments: I would love for the pd to be optional, no one loses that way and everyone is happy. with the pd, stealth is no longer possible, or at least not fun at all trying to run frntically around the merc's LOS. would be awesome if in the future they included some DLC for the sound sensor from CT.