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Raz0rx_
12-15-2006, 05:07 AM
I hope Ubisoft realize they failed hardcore with new Versus mode.

It's the most boring pile of **** i've ever played.
Anyone that can sit through more than 1 match of it, has terrible mental problems, and should get them checked out.

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Sgt.DanWells
12-15-2006, 05:21 AM
I would disagree, ofcourse people have different opinions and i respect that, but i always used to play TDM in CT cause i hated the normal mode, but (as there is no choice, which is a bit of a shame) the hacking file gameplay is quite fun. if youre good at it ofcourse.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Raz0rx_
12-15-2006, 05:26 AM
I also can't stand DM on CT.
It's a bore-fest as well.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Sgt.DanWells
12-15-2006, 05:41 AM
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Sgt.DanWells
12-15-2006, 05:43 AM
i just looked at your xfire profile and you have played 14 hours this week, and 883 in total hours?? i thought u said it was a bore-fest?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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lochang19
12-15-2006, 06:19 AM
FYI He said he hated DM on CT. He likes story mode. As do all the vets that dislike the new DA setup.

You have to wonder when the only people playing/posting in here have register/join dates of just the last 2-3 months. I WONDER why all the 2+ year members aren't around after the DA release?

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Sgt.DanWells
12-15-2006, 06:44 AM
i suppose i havent seen many CT veterans in DA online if at all. i have been playing since PT, and i like them all mostly, i just adapt lol but i understand that others like the old stuff.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Raz0rx_
12-15-2006, 06:56 AM
The new Versus mode is just so boring.
As Spy: Run run run run hack flash run run hack flash run neck run.
As Merc: Run run run run shoot run shoot run nade run.

COOL!!!
There's no possible way to be stealthy with the ultra bright maps (even in the half-assed darkness) and that STUPID, STUPID, PD.

No longer can you hide somewhere, and have the Merc run right past you, unaware of your presence, etc.

It's more frustrating than fun, playing as spy, because you have no way to defend yourself in a Merc confrontation... your only choices are run, or flash (as smoke is 100% USELESS).

The whole game is just running.
You don't need to be silent, you don't have to worry about traps, security, camnet, or Mercs in MT.

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12-15-2006, 07:11 AM
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DU.DeadlyOps.
12-15-2006, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by Raz0rx_:
The new Versus mode is just so boring.
As Spy: Run run run run hack flash run run hack flash run neck run.
As Merc: Run run run run shoot run shoot run nade run.

COOL!!!
There's no possible way to be stealthy with the ultra bright maps (even in the half-assed darkness) and that STUPID, STUPID, PD.

No longer can you hide somewhere, and have the Merc run right past you, unaware of your presence, etc.



Well hmm that being said, I've played games in an instance well With Qlemont and have seen where people are just soo focused on running to the objective and He sat there near a car n passed em like nothing to it ,Then Necked.. or another prime Example is Ive seen the classic ,Merc Around the corner neck setup done Like good ol Pt, So i dunno who uve been gaming with but not obviously, Good people. Oh and for people who are having connection issues, update your lan drivers, because I found it worked for me, Finally ,Last but not least ,Any- body who well wants to play rank.. just hit space in lobby and it will turn red , Thus Rank can be Played.

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echelonfox
12-15-2006, 09:02 AM
I totally agree with RazorX. New Versus-Mode is plain bull****. Ok, I maybe wrong now, because I only played the demo, but it shocked me so much that I doubt I'll buy DA soon. I don't have a problem to wait a year or even two years ... till it will be as cheap as a burger. But hey maybe SC5 will rock again by that time. I'm sure <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] will make it right, eventually. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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SCO.net
12-15-2006, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by echelonfox:
But hey maybe SC5 will rock again by that time. I'm sure <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] will make it right, eventually. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Im sure the next installment will be a whole load better - hopefully they will give Montreal the task of building it.

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TMH213
12-15-2006, 10:32 AM
Played it on my friends 360 multiple times and it was such a boring game. No depth to the game, no variety, no gadgets, little tension, the list goes on. DA just completely sucks.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

agev

Sgt.DanWells
12-15-2006, 10:58 AM
and just to let you know there is no such word as failage (failure is the correct word). http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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TMH213
12-15-2006, 11:11 AM
But failage sounds awesome. It's just like the word "buttsechs" no such word but we all know it really exists. ^_^<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

agev

Raz0rx_
12-15-2006, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by Sgt.DanWells:
and just to let you know there is no such word as failage (failure is the correct word). http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif
I know.
I like failage better. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

@DeadlyOps - Those mercs are obviously stupid, especially if they hear their PD beeping like crazy and not do anything about it, while running to a terminal that's being hacked.

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orthx.Machine_
12-15-2006, 03:51 PM
I agree with raz0r and everyone else who knows what they're talking about. this game sucks monkey butt and is the worst pile of ****e ive ever seen created. ban me *****es.

seefoo
12-15-2006, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by DU.DeadlyOps.:
So i dunno who uve been gaming with but not obviously, Good people.

why do you talk like dat? there are no good players in DA. noob game 4 noobs that couldnt handle CT. DA blows chunks all over itsself.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Aj6627
12-15-2006, 07:04 PM
I find there is a good deal of stealth in DA. I almost never use any gadgets except the needle from time to time.

The only time I go out in the open is at the beginning on certain objectives when I can get a quickie file before the merc gets there.

Also, I rarely go for kills as a spy. Stealth is so much easier to do.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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dannyboy1026
12-15-2006, 07:42 PM
I haven't played CT MP, but as a newbie to SCMP (I've always played SP on Xbox, but couldn't afford Live), I find everything to be well balanced.

I think the CT players are just hatin (Dey see me sneakin, dey hatin) because (Dey see me ridin riding stealthy) DA MP is different from CT MP.

Mercs should be more than capable of killing Spies with the prox detectors and drones, but they often can't because of good stealth and escape tactics.

The sole focus of powers to each side - not sure if that's stated right -, i.e. Mercs are pretty much pure brute force, Spies are solely stealth - is very good. Mercs have whats necessary to catch Spies and Spies have whats necessary to avoid mercs. The gameplay is perfectly situated and allows for plenty of situations. Just because lots of people don't properly utilize the tools provided to them does not mean that the tool is useless.

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Treadstone-71
12-16-2006, 01:48 AM
Stop comparing this game to CT, this is not a sequel to SvM of CT. If you like CT then play it, DA is not the same game, and it's not meant to be.

Raz0rx_
12-16-2006, 07:14 AM
Who's comparing?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Honeycomb_Ck
12-16-2006, 09:01 AM
Yes, it is a sequel. See, they both have the name "Splinter Cell." So when someone hears the name of "Splinter Cell" attached to SvM, they are naturally going to compare it to PT/CT. That's what makes the game a sequel.

If a company is going to completely vary from the formula for the game, they might as well change the name of the game to something else and throw some new characters in there, too.

Madcat25
12-16-2006, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by Honeycomb_Ck:
Yes, it is a sequel. See, they both have the name "Splinter Cell." So when someone hears the name of "Splinter Cell" attached to SvM, they are naturally going to compare it to PT/CT. That's what makes the game a sequel.

If a company is going to completely vary from the formula for the game, they might as well change the name of the game to something else and throw some new characters in there, too.

They did http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. Mercs are now called Uplison Force or whatever the **** they are. But still, noone really expected a whole new SVM. They expected wild addidtions to the one in CT, but what they got was a big ****** fest.
I seriously don't see the purpose in running around like a tube from terminal to terminal. I try to be stealthy, I try to crawl, crouch,not make noise, stay in the dark, but for what purpose? SO a ****ing merc who randomly passes by my posistion can find my *** because they have a presence detector WTF? They should give spies a gadget called flies or something so they can fly at the merc and screw up the detector.

In conclusion I can play the game for 2 matches because I like to jump and slide with escape moves as a spy, but otherwise it really gets repetetive and annoying. ANd buggy.

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dannyboy1026
12-16-2006, 10:52 AM
That's what the jammer is for, screwing up the detectors.

Madcat25
12-16-2006, 11:21 AM
Feels useless to me

psyichic
12-16-2006, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by dannyboy1026:
That's what the jammer is for, screwing up the detectors.

The jammers are worthless basically, they are (as ive said MULTIPLE TIMES) a glowing floor placed, 20 secs ,CLIKCING version of an alarm snare.

Their duration is far too short to be of any use for extended periods, they cannot be fired so they are basically uselss because you must place them at your feet and if your trying to escape a merc they will simply pass right by it and shoot it, and they begin to make easily distinguishable clicking noises at about 10 secs after they are dropped.

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Madcat25
12-16-2006, 03:57 PM
Exactly.... That's why there should be something that renders the presence detector useless for 20-30seconds. So the merc cannot find out where you are. And maybe make it so that when you start hacking it shuts down so we don't have people throwing one and hack while a merc has no way of finding your location easily(because EMF takes time).

MAG-Oldfox
12-16-2006, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Raz0rx_:
Anyone that can sit through more than 1 match of it, has terrible mental problems, and should get them checked out.

I hope you didn't write that seriously.

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12-16-2006, 11:22 PM
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HeroFromHyrule
12-17-2006, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by TMH213:
Played it on my friends 360 multiple times and it was such a boring game. No depth to the game, no variety, no gadgets, little tension, the list goes on. DA just completely sucks.

Easy there, no tension? NO tension? I'll let the other ones slide (though I disagree with them as well), but the fact that you said there is zero tension in this game raises a flag with me. On MANY occasions I have had my heart racing as I'm avoiding the mercs with the final file to win the game. I recently played a game against the two guys I play with every day (who are VERY good players) with a hard bot. I was a spy, as was a friend of mine who had just recently bought the game. I captured one file, my friend ran out of lives, and I was left with one life left and one file to capture. I managed to capture the final file on Terminus against three mercs. By the time it was over I was shaking. No tension? Apparently you don't know tension.

Raz0rx_
12-17-2006, 04:54 PM
The ONLY tension i've ever felt in DA, has been while extracting, being chased, almost dead. Not a single other time...

Overall, i don't find it fun, at all.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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12-18-2006, 06:24 AM
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Raz0rx_
12-18-2006, 04:41 PM
Excuse me?
I have just as much right to express my opinion on the game as you do.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Madcat25
12-18-2006, 06:09 PM
SO you want a game where you're yelling "Oh ****, oh ****" every two seconds? That's how you die of heart attacks and/or start twitching and die.

Brownsnakeeyes
12-19-2006, 06:48 AM
One thing that <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">UBI[/b] could've done with the MP is make the PD work only when a spy is using his hacking opsat. That would've done wonders for this game.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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MR.Mic
12-19-2006, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by HeroFromHyrule:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TMH213:
Played it on my friends 360 multiple times and it was such a boring game. No depth to the game, no variety, no gadgets, little tension, the list goes on. DA just completely sucks.

Easy there, no tension? NO tension? I'll let the other ones slide (though I disagree with them as well), but the fact that you said there is zero tension in this game raises a flag with me. On MANY occasions I have had my heart racing as I'm avoiding the mercs with the final file to win the game. I recently played a game against the two guys I play with every day (who are VERY good players) with a hard bot. I was a spy, as was a friend of mine who had just recently bought the game. I captured one file, my friend ran out of lives, and I was left with one life left and one file to capture. I managed to capture the final file on Terminus against three mercs. By the time it was over I was shaking. No tension? Apparently you don't know tension. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

When a game can get me wound up to the point of punching ****, THEN it's a good game. DA never did this to me once. CT was a superior game from a strategic, concept, and overall design point of view. The only thing keeping it from being the best multiplayer game of all time were a list of bugs almost as long as DA's.

At least there weren't many incredibly huge design flaws like in DA.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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element54
12-19-2006, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by Madcat25:
SO you want a game where you're yelling "Oh ****, oh ****" every two seconds? That's how you die of heart attacks and/or start twitching and die.

Uhhhh, yah. That is exactly what i wan't. Even with all the frustration i have playing SCCT (believe me i have alot of frustrations) i still would rather play that than SCDA.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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DrCactus
12-19-2006, 11:29 AM
LOL nice MrMic.

PT and CT had me going "Oh ****" all the time. Sometimes my heart would be racing so bad after a close match I'd have to take a break. I'd use the excuse I have to go to bed or call my girlfriend because it was so intense.

NO game made me feel like that all the time. Only when I stole a flag in Tribes or the like, but not all the time.

The "OH ****" feeling was obtained so easily in PT and CT was because you could be beside a merc and he wouldn't know it. In DA that feeling is completely lost, even though the merc may not know specifcally where you may be, he still knows your there. In PT/CT he'd be oblivious.

It's those moments that brought out the best of the game. Whether it'd be you watchin a bored merc, spin in one spot continually... watch him shoot cans around or even watch as one merc shoots the other out of boredom and then creep by the dead mercs body.

Those "Oh ****" moments are what made CT and PT so great. From what I hear and understand, DA seriously lacks the "Oh ****" moments.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Madcat25
12-19-2006, 06:13 PM
I guess CT was making my heart race 24/7 and it sure was. Probably since there were more things to get the mercs on your balls like cameras, tripmines, etc. Always a thrill. I just noticed my self play DA today and the only thing that made me happy was doing escape moves.... pfftt that suckes.

Raz0rx_
12-19-2006, 09:24 PM
Escape moves and the way you climb up and go down poles are the only 2 cool things in DA.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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