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Real_King_Louis
04-20-2005, 08:28 AM
UbiSoft was about to release 6 new screenshots. As is expected, they were distributed to some Gaming Magazines and there was a leak.

UbiSoft will release those screenshots officially soon.

Sure enough there are many fan sites that have the shots. It wouldn't be too had to find them.

RexMund1
04-20-2005, 08:34 AM
oh no, not the dreaded "soon" anything but that :P

Real_King_Louis
04-20-2005, 08:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RexMund1:
oh no, not the dreaded "soon" anything but that :P <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Darn. I'm getting molded...*waaaaaaah*

d0ma
04-20-2005, 08:36 AM
well, they look great. good work

ValiantFwiffo
04-20-2005, 08:38 AM
They should find and shoot the leaker. And then leak on him.

Lepastur
04-20-2005, 09:01 AM
The images are excellent. The only thing I can't understand is why some posts have been deleted, because we, the fans, have no fault about what happened here.

JustStoneColdJo
04-20-2005, 09:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lepastur:
The images are excellent. The only thing I can't understand is why some posts have been deleted, because we, the fans, have no fault about what happened here. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Probably because UBI is not advertising that they are out yet, and the various sites should not be advertising that they have them. Until they are officially released, I expect any talk, about them, on here to be squashed. Which I agree with.

Ethric
04-20-2005, 09:15 AM
Well I'd assume the gaming magazine in question have soured their relationship to Ubisoft a bit now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Salventus
04-20-2005, 09:37 AM
How do we know for sure Ubisoft didn't approve of this?

Real_King_Louis
04-20-2005, 09:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Salventus:
How do we know for sure Ubisoft didn't approve of this? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Cause there was an Non-disclosure Agreement.

And Lepastur, no fan is to blame. We are all eager to see more of that game. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

OZFirst
04-20-2005, 09:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Salventus:
How do we know for sure Ubisoft didn't approve of this? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

trust your king.

Dink-the-Mink
04-20-2005, 10:03 AM
Yay! I've seen them. They are awesome!!
But when will we see unzoomed ones? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif :P

reg
****

edit: I made a thread but after reading the posts in here (sorry for not doing it earlyer) I deleted it as it seems that there should not yet be discussion about it.

ToxicMunkee
04-20-2005, 10:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>But when will we see unzoomed ones? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif :P <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm not holding my breath, that's for sure.

simon_cowell
04-20-2005, 10:28 AM
HA-HA-HA-HA...

...

HA-HA-HA-HA...

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Well, good luck with THAT! I'm outa here.

HA-HA-HA-HA...
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Captain_Stifu
04-20-2005, 10:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by simon_cowell:
HA-HA-HA-HA...

...

HA-HA-HA-HA...

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Well, good luck with THAT! I'm outa here.

HA-HA-HA-HA...
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Someone who spends so much time trolling a forum that's about a game he knows he won't like must be a very, very sad person.

C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s
04-20-2005, 10:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Captain_Stifu:
Someone who spends so much time trolling a forum that's about a game he knows he won't like must be a very, very sad person. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know. Maybe it's because I'm an adult and not a kid, but I just don't get it. What's the kick he gets out of this? If you don't care for the dirction the game is headed....move on. Find one that you will like. *rolls eyes*

Real_King_Louis
04-20-2005, 10:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Captain_Stifu:
Someone who spends so much time trolling a forum that's about a game he knows he won't like must be a very, very sad person. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know. Maybe it's because I'm an adult and not a kid, but I just don't get it. What's the kick he gets out of this? If you don't care for the dirction the game is headed....move on. Find one that you will like. *rolls eyes* <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who knows with trolls, of all ages. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

tydral
04-20-2005, 11:04 AM
Eventhough they came in an unfortunate manner, the screen shots look awesome! The archer looks alot better than I pictured from the earlier concept art. The succubus is becoming more and more intriguing to me. Great job so far Ubisoft and Nival, can't wait for E3 and more info on the game!

UndeadDontDie
04-20-2005, 11:30 AM
Whoopie, I have all of those screenshots right here on my PC =P
Anyway, they look great graphically, though they still tell us nothing about the game.
Im waiting for zoomed out interface screenies.
Oh, and someone commented on not seing stack numbers, while not a number, on the third screenshot you can see this blue bar with a sword on it, right between the angel's wings, not much, but something.

Dink-the-Mink
04-20-2005, 11:46 AM
I don't see any blue bars with swords on any of the screens.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

reg
****

obiter
04-20-2005, 11:53 AM
The style and quality of the graphics is great! I can't wait to command those Castle troops to victory.

But what we need are shots of the user interface elements and a little more perspective -- a zoomed out perspective!!

JoniJM
04-20-2005, 12:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JustStoneColdJo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lepastur:
The images are excellent. The only thing I can't understand is why some posts have been deleted, because we, the fans, have no fault about what happened here. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Probably because UBI is not advertising that they are out yet, and the various sites should not be advertising that they have them. Until they are officially released, I expect any talk, about them, on here to be squashed. Which I agree with. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

..I guess that this advertisement which I wrote earlier in the "Old New Screenshots"-forum was proved on the other hand: http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif "New poll in the Nival-site (http://www.nival.com/) about HOMM III magic schools etc." http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif And about troll(s)... Hope that "outa here" part is permanent at least for messages which amuse only one single person around here.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Camay1
04-20-2005, 12:04 PM
Ok guys all together! : ZOO-MED-OUT ! ZOO-MED-OUT ! ZOO-MED-OUT !

Ok let's try one more time ! : IN-TER-FACE ! IN-TER-FACE !

Oh no! I can't add music to that post !

indie85
04-20-2005, 12:07 PM
Yay, this has brightened up my day no end. This game just keeps on looking better and better, i cant wait to get my grubby hands on it!

UndeadDontDie
04-20-2005, 12:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ****-the-Mink:
I don't see any blue bars with swords on any of the screens.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

reg
**** <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well, it isn't easy to see, so I circled it out for you:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/Shvarme/screen_03.jpg

KingImp
04-20-2005, 12:53 PM
I wished I saved that previous topic now.
Not for the screenshots, as I was one of the few on late last night to see them, but to see if anyone responded to my fears regarding the fact that it looks like there are no longer stacks in the game.

Beltion
04-20-2005, 12:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by UndeadDontDie:

Well, it isn't easy to see, so I circled it out for you: <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Healthbar?

My money is on that that's another unit on the battlefield, hidden by the angel and the tree.

Real_King_Louis
04-20-2005, 01:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KingImp:
I wished I saved that previous topic now.
Not for the screenshots, as I was one of the few on late last night to see them, but to see if anyone responded to my fears regarding the fact that it looks like there are no longer stacks in the game. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I dunno. Maybe these are 'doctored' screenshots to prevent from disclosing interfaces and such just yet? Maybe the stack number will eventually show up as a floating number, a bar or some other sort of stack meter?

Dink-the-Mink
04-20-2005, 01:03 PM
I think, it's just sky, or water or sth else. If it was a bar with sword floating over the angel, I think it would be viewable completely and not hidden behind that tree...

But thx for showing me what you meant^^ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

reg
Daddy

UndeadDontDie
04-20-2005, 01:09 PM
Try downloading the picture and zooming in with some software (even Paint).
You'll notice that there is a sword icon on that blue bar (it looks like some yellow gem when zoomed out, atleast for me).
Oh, and this forum avatar system hates me.

NailagCiad
04-20-2005, 01:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by UndeadDontDie:
Try downloading the picture and zooming in with some software (even Paint).
You'll notice that there is a sword icon on that blue bar (it looks like some yellow gem when zoomed out, atleast for me). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've seen a zoom, and it doesn't look part of an interface to me. Much more likely to be some other unit that's half-obscured.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Oh, and this forum avatar system hates me. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey, I can finally see your avatar, oh great slimey blob! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Dink-the-Mink
04-20-2005, 01:14 PM
You're talking about his one, right?

http://mitglied.lycos.de/daddyoday/bar.png

I can see why you say it is a bar and a sword. Actually that orange/brown thing above left does look like a sword-handle... But I am not yet convinced^^ Might also be a creature or a opice of terrein/sky/sth http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

reg
****

edit: I can see your avatr, too now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Nice Slimy^^

st14z
04-20-2005, 01:22 PM
What use is from statbar which is behind.
I could not see it.

But did you see upgraded swordsman?
Screen 5 --> Screen 6

The_Vortex
04-20-2005, 01:22 PM
Nice screenshots!
It seems that the griffins are back on the castle side http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Fidanas
04-20-2005, 01:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Camay1:
Ok guys all together! : ZOO-MED-OUT ! ZOO-MED-OUT ! ZOO-MED-OUT !

! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
He he he...I like it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Captain_Stifu
04-20-2005, 02:02 PM
I don't know what you guys have been drinking to see a blue bar and a sword...

OZFirst
04-20-2005, 02:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Captain_Stifu:
I don't know what you guys have been drinking to see a blue bar and a sword... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agreed. Just something in the background, I'm sure.

CyberViper
04-20-2005, 02:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KingImp:
I wished I saved that previous topic now.
Not for the screenshots, as I was one of the few on late last night to see them, but to see if anyone responded to my fears regarding the fact that it looks like there are no longer stacks in the game. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah KingImp, I responded to you last night...but it looks as if we were all DELETED http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif.

Anyways, I said: I got upset too when I first noticed that, but then i remembered:

"unit stacks, dragons, and unit upgrades will be back;"

This is found on the "Summary of *Confirmed* features" thread. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif WHEW...that was close.

Hey, is that a Griffin I see? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Zimmymasaki
04-20-2005, 02:46 PM
the blue thing behind the tree is quite clearly a flag come on guys get it together. notice the different coloured wood left of the tree and the fact its a blue flat object? Seemingly there is now a flagholder and im guessing hes there, in one of the new screenshots you can see the flag and it is the same as the blue thing behind a tree.
Also in the screenshots that werent meant to be released its nice to see some traditions, there seem to be 2 upgrades shown, the succubus and swordsman. Also notice how the battlefield seemingly shows objects in the background ( you can see a house)
You can also see treasure chests and random resources lying around. It really does look like nival are doing an amazing job with the game. What i assume is a black dragon in one of the screenshots looks amazing, its gone a different route as the dragon(may not be but likely) is wearing armour, but its actually bigger than a knight which i love. In the heroes games there were small hints to size differences in heroes 4 with sprites being slightly smaller and titans being slightly bigger etc but it still never gave the impression that the fmv's did where dragons and titans were these massive creatures.
If the gameplay is good which i think it will be this could be the best heroes game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Dink-the-Mink
04-20-2005, 02:54 PM
You know what? That flag-idea sounds pretty good. That might actually be it! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

reg
****

edit: what you say might be a dragon is the Balor, I'd say http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
funny how it's appearence differes so much from screenshot to screenshot. (on that army-screen the Balor looks a bit darker and more animal-like, on the 1st combat pic it seems to be smaller and is very red now, on this new one (may I describe?) he is much atller and darker, but more "burning" - I personally like the new one most, it looks most dangerous and evil http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
/edit

edit2:
Now look at this guy: Balor (http://nwdownloads.bioware.com/neverwinternights/desktops/balor_800.jpg)
I'd say, 'our' Balor looks better http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
/edit2

simon_cowell
04-20-2005, 02:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KingImp:
it looks like there are no longer stacks in the game. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, there will be no stacks. HoMM is going to be RPG. And don't give me that "how can you tell that by just looking at some screenshots without knowing what the gameplay is?". Because that is exactly how I can tell - by looking at the screenshots. Because if I see a very concrete guy hiding behind a very concrete tree or something, how am I supposed to believe that it are actually hundreds of people there???

Kingo edit: just removed a swearword

Captain_Stifu
04-20-2005, 03:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zimmymasaki:
the blue thing behind the tree is quite clearly a flag come on guys get it together. notice the different coloured wood left of the tree and the fact its a blue flat object? Seemingly there is now a flagholder and im guessing hes there, in one of the new screenshots you can see the flag and it is the same as the blue thing behind a tree.
Also in the screenshots that werent meant to be released its nice to see some traditions, there seem to be 2 upgrades shown, the succubus and swordsman. Also notice how the battlefield seemingly shows objects in the background ( you can see a house)
You can also see treasure chests and random resources lying around. It really does look like nival are doing an amazing job with the game. What i assume is a black dragon in one of the screenshots looks amazing, its gone a different route as the dragon(may not be but likely) is wearing armour, but its actually bigger than a knight which i love. In the heroes games there were small hints to size differences in heroes 4 with sprites being slightly smaller and titans being slightly bigger etc but it still never gave the impression that the fmv's did where dragons and titans were these massive creatures.
If the gameplay is good which i think it will be this could be the best heroes game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
After all, those guys seeing blue bars, swords and flying pink elephants seem SANE compared to you. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Real_King_Louis
04-20-2005, 03:11 PM
@ simon_trollwell

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Yes, there will be no stacks. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You say that, yet Fabrice Cambounet, Producer of the game, mentioned in a recent interview that the stacks were back. So who should I believe, an Official Spokesperson or you simon? What-to-do? What-to-do? Bah. I'll bet on Fabrice.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>HoMM is going to be RPG. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You don't say so? Drats. I was so sure it was a Strategy Game in a Fantasy setting. Humm...looks at this source. Nah. I'll stick to believing it will be a Strategy game, thankyouverymuch.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>And don't give me that "how can you tell that by just looking at some screenshots without knowing what the gameplay is?". Bacause that is exactly how I can tell - by looking at the screenshots. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
How can you tell by just looking at some screenshots without knowing what the gameplay is?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Because if I see a very concrete guy hiding behind a very concrete tree or something, how am i supposed to belive that it are actually hundreds of people there??? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Concrete guy? That would be a stone golem. In which screenshot? A concrete tree? Mebbe an upgrade of the Treant. Hundreds of people? My memory may be lacking me, but stacks don't need to be represented in multitude for serious gamers to strategize and play as if they were stacks...unless you want again a TBS with little critters rumaging around...

Thanks fo playing. Oh! I tought you were not playing with us anymore? Well, at any rate, welcome back anyhoo.

- K -

Marelt
04-20-2005, 03:16 PM
I've noticed that there seem to be many variants in the appearance of the same creature. When they first announced upgrades, I was somewhat sceptical (remembering the mess of Heroes 3), but apparently, they will be doing a good job of it. Perhaps, you upgrade special abilities or powers into them and there may be several options or combinations per creature.

As long as they stay away from:
"This is my army of Balors... I stuff a crown on their heads and now they are all Balor Kings and they suddenly got 50 hitpoints more."

simon_cowell
04-20-2005, 03:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Real_King_Louis:
Concrete guy? That would be a stone golem. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

By "concete" I mean "very specific", "not abstract".

Dink-the-Mink
04-20-2005, 03:19 PM
Hmm, copuld the Balors on the combat screens (angel and knight) be upgraded versions? [then the one on this inferno-army-screen would be base-version)

reg
****

Real_King_Louis
04-20-2005, 03:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by simon_cowell:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Real_King_Louis:
Concrete guy? That would be a stone golem. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

By "concete" I mean "very specific", "not abstract". <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know. I was just having a little fun simon. I knew exactly what you were trying to say, couldn't resist a bit of humour.

But wouldn't you agree that stacks could eventually be represened by a number, a bar, a series of little icons or some other indicator, yet graphically be represented by only 1 creature graphically?

SirRyder
04-20-2005, 03:29 PM
Those screenshots are dynamite. Nuff said.

Coriolanus_Rex
04-20-2005, 03:49 PM
To all the naysayers who doubted Heroes-3d: read 'em and weep, boys! H5 will be the new reighning champ: H3 with great graphics!

simon_cowell
04-20-2005, 03:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Real_King_Louis:
But wouldn't you agree that stacks could eventually be represened by a number, a bar, a series of little icons or some other indicator, yet graphically be represented by only 1 creature graphically? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, yeah, it is the way it always was. What I'm saying is that it is much easier to buy that type of symbolism when game graphics is also, well, "symbolic".

sketan
04-20-2005, 04:20 PM
Forgive a noob who´s been out all day...but where can one find these new screenshots?

Pleeeeeease let me know!

penttivarg@hotmail.com

simon_cowell
04-20-2005, 04:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sketan:
Forgive a noob who´s been out all day...but where can one find these new screenshots?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Check out post #6 from this thread http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s
04-20-2005, 04:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Beltion:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by UndeadDontDie:

Well, it isn't easy to see, so I circled it out for you: <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Healthbar?

My money is on that that's another unit on the battlefield, hidden by the angel and the tree. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

*takes out his eyeballs and washes them off*

Ummm...what the heck are you guys talking about? Yes, I'm seeing a little blurb of blue and some other colors between those feathers...but I'm thinking it's branches, leaves and maybe flowers. I sure don't see any indication that it's a troops or a sword or anything of the sort. Or maybe I'm just too darned old and can't see straight anymore. Young whipper-snappers! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

Kareeah_Indaga
04-20-2005, 05:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s:

*takes out his eyeballs and washes them off*

Ummm...what the heck are you guys talking about? Yes, I'm seeing a little blurb of blue and some other colors between those feathers...but I'm thinking it's branches, leaves and maybe flowers. I sure don't see any indication that it's a troops or a sword or anything of the sort. Or maybe I'm just too darned old and can't see straight anymore. Young whipper-snappers! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You mean this?

http://img191.exs.cx/img191/9624/hvscreenhiddencreature7ru.png

I€m of the opinion it€s a unit; the brown part looks like it has ears (horse head, maybe?) and the blue patch is big enough to be a shield.

Zamolxis108
04-20-2005, 05:39 PM
Wow. You guys are really digging deep into the screenshots. There still seem to be things hidden in the first released shots that we didn't uncover, so we shouldn't afterall worry too much about "missing" this "leak" we were talking about here.

I'd also have to say that I can only see there a kind of unit. First I gave it a small chance to be maybe a pond, but I noticed immediately that that blue it's pretty much just the same with the one on the angel's outfit. If it's not a unit, than my only second guess would be a flag (or that flag-bearer from the "not-yet-official" shots). If you look at the flag carried by the hero in the first shot, and come back to this one, you'll see that we can be talking about the same thing, just this time in blue (player color).

JohnDiFool1
04-20-2005, 06:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Real_King_Louis:
@ simon_trollwell

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Because if I see a very concrete guy hiding behind a very concrete tree or something, how am i supposed to belive that it are actually hundreds of people there??? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Concrete guy? That would be a stone golem. In which screenshot? A concrete tree? Mebbe an upgrade of the Treant. Hundreds of people? My memory may be lacking me, but stacks don't need to be represented in multitude for serious gamers to strategize and play as if they were stacks...unless you want again a TBS with little critters rumaging around...
- K - <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I can see Simon C.'s point tho: does it make sense that 100 golems would be able to hide behind say a medium size tree? A few golems perhaps. The problem
as I see it (Simon can chime in and agree, he didn't mean literally "concrete" I don't think) is that the new 3D world, as cool as it looks to me otherwise,
won't really work visually if we stick with the one stack system that we've had in games I-IV. On a stylized battlefield of 13x15 hexes, that system worked
well, but the scale is all wrong in these screenies if they are going to stick with it, and for me at least I lose the willing suspension of disbelief.

It may be that the graphic environment got too realistic for its own good here, while they apparently are going to stick with the unrealistic one stack
motif. Note that gameplay wise sticking with one stacks may very well be workable-I'm calling sole attention to my view that visually it isn't
going to work.

John DiFool

Kareeah_Indaga
04-20-2005, 06:50 PM
But how is the scale between stacks and trees any different from, say, the Heroes III battle field? If anything the creatures seem more to scale, IMO, because the armies aren€t all as tall as the trees.

Angelspit
04-20-2005, 06:54 PM
The screenshots are now available on IGN (http://www.gametab.com/news/256990/). Maybe the reason why Ubisoft was a bit concerned by the leak this morning is because IGN wanted the exclusivity. The surprise was a bit spoiled.

Angelspit, posting news here because his site is down... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Real_King_Louis
04-20-2005, 07:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Angelspit:
The screenshots are now available on http://www.gametab.com/news/256990/. Maybe the reason why Ubisoft was a bit concerned by the leak this morning is because IGN wanted the exclusivity. The surprise was a bit spoiled.

_Angelspit, posting news here because his site is down..._ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There, there big guy. You can still acess at least your boards...Angelspit H5 Board (http://www.forumplanet.com/strategyplanet/homm/forum.asp?fid=5292)

Real_King_Louis
04-20-2005, 07:23 PM
And Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/heroesofmightandmagicv/screenindex.html) also has them up.

Kareeah_Indaga
04-20-2005, 07:36 PM
Last pics were posted 3/30, next set was posted 4/20€¦does this mean a third set will be posted 5/10? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s
04-20-2005, 07:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kareeah_Indaga:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s:

*takes out his eyeballs and washes them off*

Ummm...what the heck are you guys talking about? Yes, I'm seeing a little blurb of blue and some other colors between those feathers...but I'm thinking it's branches, leaves and maybe flowers. I sure don't see any indication that it's a troops or a sword or anything of the sort. Or maybe I'm just too darned old and can't see straight anymore. Young whipper-snappers! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You mean this?

http://img191.exs.cx/img191/9624/hvscreenhiddencreature7ru.png

I€m of the opinion it€s a unit; the brown part looks like it has ears (horse head, maybe?) and the blue patch is big enough to be a shield. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, that's what I was referring to. I have no idea what you guys are seeing there. I sure don't see anything worth noting. I'm of the opinion that it's just flowers or something that you're seeing thru the leaves of the trees. But to somehow make out a unit with THAT miniscule amount of data? Absurd. But that's me. :O)

simon_cowell
04-20-2005, 09:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kareeah_Indaga:
If anything the creatures seem more to scale, IMO, because the armies aren€t all as tall as the trees. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is exactly the point! Hero as tall as trees IS NOT a hero himself - it is just something that shows you (on the MAP) where your hero's army is. Now the view of the world is clearly not a map. And a hero is clearly a hero himself. So i just cannot help asking where is his huge army, and how come he can move only 100 meters per day (well i guess he doesn't have to hurry - the whole world is about 1x1 km).

SirRyder
04-20-2005, 09:10 PM
Is there an ignore function in these forums???

simon_cowell
04-20-2005, 11:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SirRyder:
Is there an ignore function in these forums??? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

lostn
04-21-2005, 12:52 AM
Gamespot has them up now.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/heroesofmightandmagicv/screenindex.html

Loadstone007
04-21-2005, 01:58 AM
This is too revolutionary... the battles appear in 3D, zoom-like style.
Gosh, I hope this isn't the final result.

igoraki
04-21-2005, 03:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Coriolanus_Rex:
H5 will be the new reighning champ: H3 with great graphics! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

exactly what i fear the most

Ethric
04-21-2005, 03:35 AM
Yep, that would be real bad. A waste. But I doubt it'll come to that.

CH_Psychobabble
04-21-2005, 04:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Is there an ignore function in these forums??? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/images/smilies/trolls.gif

loonyjoe
04-21-2005, 06:06 AM
yeah!
the griffins are back to the castle!(at least it seems so...)
i love the pics...now show me the elves http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Evenshade
04-21-2005, 06:29 AM
Elves! Elves! Elves! Elves! :P

Yeah, I like the screenshots a ton, too. And I think from now on I'm going to ignore the trolls, as per Psychobabble's suggestion. It's a waste of time to argue with people whose opinions aren't going to change. Heroes IV was the same, combat-screen-wise, as Heroes V, at least in my eyes. And if the trolls respond to that, I don't care.

dino_rpg
04-21-2005, 08:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lostn:
Gamespot has them up now.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/heroesofmightandmagicv/screenindex.html <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thanks, I missed the original post where they were shown

[EDITED]
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by: MuadDib_FC
Hello everyone

As most of you (if not everyone) know by now, some screenshots have leaked to the web yesterday. These screens were given to journalists under a strict NDA, and it was a disappointment to see that it was not respected. The culprit was nailed down and will probably be fed to the wolves.

Now that these screens bounced all over the web, the NDA over them has no reason to be anymore, so they will be posted on the official website for everyone to enjoy.

I hope this wont happen again : we need to build an effective communication for the game to be successful - an objective all fans certainly share !
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Now I feel ashamed for my previous post http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
Anyway, the screenshots were cool but they didn't revealed that much (besides some new creatures which we all think they could be on the final release)

I hope this incident didn't make you distrust us and keep everything hidden away from us (in other words, I hope you still give some new info in the forums)

skortzy
04-21-2005, 08:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s:

Yes, that's what I was referring to. I have no idea what you guys are seeing there. I sure don't see anything worth noting. I'm of the opinion that it's just flowers or something that you're seeing thru the leaves of the trees. But to somehow make out a unit with THAT miniscule amount of data? Absurd. But that's me. :O) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I also do not think that can be a unit. In all screenshots units have shadows. I cannot see any shadow of that small thing.

If the shadow exists and is so small that it is covered by the angel (and his shadow), than this is to small to be a unit.

If the shadow does not exist, then the small thing is part of the background.

Arzang
04-21-2005, 09:59 AM
just because the number doesn't show doesn't mean that there aren't any stacks. I mean; if you see a Cerberi unit, and there is only ONE Cerberi, isn't writing the number 1 above its head redundant?

I just hope that we will be able to zoom out. and if you ask me; the griffin was fugly and weird. maybe upgradeable to griffin rider? ah who knows.

The thing that disturbs me the most is how fiery the inferno units are. I just hope they don't overdo it. I mean; do all inferno units need to be on fire, just because they are infernal units?

Zimmymasaki
04-21-2005, 10:34 AM
ITS A FLAG OH DEAR GOD ITS A FLAG! *breaks down* how could it be a unit aaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr its a flag flag flag flag flag flag
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*twitch*

Lord_Crusader
04-21-2005, 10:42 AM
this screenshoots are in a betafase I mean I think they are working on the graphics after that they will work on the maths... I mean stack numbers etc...

JohnDiFool1
04-21-2005, 12:28 PM
I haven't seen any trollery in this topic. A
couple of us were merely pointing out that the
scale seems weird (surrealistic almost) and
jarring IF one stacks will continue to be the rule
(which appears likely). In a RPG it would make
perfect sense (the various Life-aligned might
heroes with their clanky armor and pet Griffin
duking it out with a single demonspawn)-in a
strategy game where 1 Griffin icon on the
screen may equal 100 Griffins in terms of
combat math I'm not so sure...

That was just my first visceral impression of
the screenies-if it works for the rest of you,
fine, but is hardly a point of contention worthy
of tossing out the "troll" line... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

John DiFool

lord_stormwing
04-21-2005, 01:24 PM
I think they are great, but from wat I see it looks like RealTime ont Turnbase, jus a fealig.Also I sal two demons one mail whit aurmor and one femail whitout anithing but before I saw gust the same as thefemail but blak inseted of read.Very confusing, ehgh?

sxshopper
04-21-2005, 01:43 PM
It can't be REAL TIME, because hot seat is implemented in Heroes5, and how can you imagine playing with someone on 1 PC in REALTIME?

KingImp
04-21-2005, 01:52 PM
#3, of the new batch, is my favorite.
I just love how the landscape turns from lush and beautiful, to fiery, dark, and ominous.

I don't know why they would be too upset at this leak, aside from the promise part. The screenshots don't give anything new away. If anything they add more to the fan's excitement. I know I want this game more than ever now.

As for #4 of the new batch, does anyone have a clue what that green thing (no, not the grass), is between the Griffin and the Succubus?

Real_King_Louis
04-21-2005, 01:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>King imp: As for #4 of the new batch, does anyone have a clue what that green thing (no, not the grass), is between the Griffin and the Succubus? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Saw that. A Nature spell effect?

KingImp
04-21-2005, 02:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Real_King_Louis:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>KingImp: As for #4 of the new batch, does anyone have a clue what that green thing (no, not the grass), is between the Griffin and the Succubus? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Saw that. A Nature spell effect? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If it is, I surely hope it's either in the very early or very late stages of being cast. If that's a spell in "full bloom", then it's pretty lame.

Pitsu
04-21-2005, 02:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KingImp:
As for #4 of the new batch, does anyone have a clue what that green thing (no, not the grass), is between the Griffin and the Succubus? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe these are just flowers. At the archer-hero-swordman screen you see the very same art IMO.

KingImp
04-21-2005, 02:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pitsu:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KingImp:
As for #4 of the new batch, does anyone have a clue what that green thing (no, not the grass), is between the Griffin and the Succubus? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe these are just flowers. At the archer-hero-swordman screen you see the very same art IMO. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are absolutely right. I didn't see it in screenshot #5 of the new batch (they really need to change the numbers so as to not confuse people).

I must say though, the flower looks awful. For as beautiful as the screens are, you can't tell it's a flower from the Griffin-Succubus pic.

Morgana_HC
04-22-2005, 02:05 AM
It seems, there are only 2 towns in heroes 5 - castle and inferno. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Where are the other creatures????



Heroescorner (http://www.heroescorner.de/)

Thom19
04-22-2005, 02:51 AM
Hey, Morgana, i saw you in the German-HoMMV-Forums, I opened a Screenshotthread (http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=59010161&f=8561015103&m=7861052113) there, let's discuss http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

btw: hy to everybody here in the english-forums http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

CH_Psychobabble
04-22-2005, 03:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Morgana_HC:
It seems, there are only 2 towns in heroes 5 - castle and inferno. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Where are the other creatures????
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
We've been told that life/death are the towns in the demo which explains why all the shots feature them. It has been confirmed that there are 6 alignments and about 130 creatures (including upgrades).

st14z
04-22-2005, 03:12 AM
Did they say that they will separate death/inferno and in that pre-Demo they played Inferno against Castle ? or http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Captain_Stifu
04-22-2005, 04:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CH_Psychobabble:
We've been told that life/death are the towns in the demo which explains why all the shots feature them. It has been confirmed that there are 6 alignments and about 130 creatures (including upgrades). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
To be more precise, Fabrice said the game would easily have over 130 creatures counting upgrades and addon.

"no we wont top 130 only in the main game", he said.

Mike447a
04-25-2005, 12:15 AM
between the griffon and the succubus ???

it's a new nature spell - "Flowers" hihihi
a spell charm for trying to seduce... the succubus http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif