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Tommy2Ky
11-17-2007, 08:06 AM
Does the 360 one freeze two if does please reply.

Tommy2Ky
11-17-2007, 08:13 AM
I am trying to solve it and i havent got the game yet i get it xmas if you read my first post i say i havent got it yet i hope they re release it in time without problems or bring out a fix fast because it is one of the most hyped games of the year and lots of people will have brought it so needs to be sorted i hope ubi read this and act fast

kyoshiro06
11-17-2007, 08:13 AM
Two more videos to show the bugs :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n6kc1wyaDY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-EoEwtstQI&feature=related
We can see in those videos a bug with the horse (very funny to see)...but not funny for a game on the NeXT GEN...

MacSolidWorks
11-17-2007, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by Tommy2Ky:
Does the 360 one freeze two if does please reply.

Look, Tommy 2000 questions, the title of this discussion is:

For PS3 Users Experiencing Freezing Issues In Assassin's Creed.

If you want information concerning the xbox version...why don't you do a little research on your own and find out...or maybe just read the rest of the posts here and you'll find your answer.

Of course I know you won't do that because you're are a lazy "give me everything while I do nothing" kind of person.

People like you drive me nuts on these forums.

Badhabit007
11-17-2007, 08:15 AM
Good Day,

I have the PS3 version of AC and the 2.0v for the firmware.

I have played about 3 hours with it and got the freeze, or sort of, during a loading time. During the load time animation, I was able to control Altaïr, but it was a neverending loading time... After 5 minutes, I was not even able to use the PS button. My last choice was a reset. For me it was the only time when I had a problem.

But it's another story with my son during his play time on the same PS3. He got at least 6 freezes, in a row. I have noticed that he got at least 3 freezes in the "Map" menu, the only way out was a reset. 2 or 3 times during gameplay, he was able to use the camera and nothing else, the PS button was working very slowly and the only way to exit the game was to do a reset. All that in about 3 hours.

The game is very good, but this little buggy part is very anoying.

Hope this info will help you to correct the thing if the problem is on your side. If not, let's hope that the firmware v2.1 will do some good concerning this matter.

Ciao!

Mart

XyZspineZyX
11-17-2007, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by Tommy2Ky:
I am trying to solve it and i havent got the game yet i get it xmas if you read my first post i say i havent got it yet i hope they re release it in time without problems or bring out a fix fast because it is one of the most hyped games of the year and lots of people will have brought it so needs to be sorted i hope ubi read this and act fast

If you do not yet have the game can i suggest you post in other discussions throughout the forum but this thread is purely for feedback on an issue you have not experienced because you do not own the game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Tommy2Ky
11-17-2007, 08:26 AM
how can i be lazy if ive been following the game for 6 months if you read some of my posts i tell you a lot of info on the game and like i said i hope they sort them out whith a rerelease ior a fix or with the new 2.01

Tommy2Ky
11-17-2007, 08:28 AM
give me a break im only making suggestions about what they ubi can do to fix it

deathsknigh2007
11-17-2007, 08:31 AM
i played it yesterday and it locked up once on me so i tried deleting the game date file and trying it again i played for 15 hours straight with no lock ups but today it locked up so im trying deleting the game data file again and reinstalling it hope this helps u guys.

Ramiuz
11-17-2007, 08:34 AM
Using 2.0 (as if I have a choice)
The game has frozen/crashed two times, I had to reboot the machine from here.

The framerate is almost constantly laggy, never smooth. For a game that renders a whole city in one screen, you would not expect it to lag on a console, it looks like th PS3 is almost too weak for the game.

In beginning scene in the dungeon, the guy on the left moves like he is noclipping.

I always get rendering latencies. So for instance a persons scarf can appear out of nowhere when I'm closing in on him, it's real ugly.


The most annoying bug of the whole game is the laggy framerate. It's just ackward to watch. A game that looks unrendered.

neurotoxin55
11-17-2007, 08:34 AM
Tommy2Ky, will i understand you are probably just trying to help. The whole reason why this thread was created was for people who HAVE the game to report issues. You do not own the game, and to keep the thread on topic you should probably create a seperate thread. You do raise some points, and i hope when you get the game it is bug free by then.

Cheers

stuburns
11-17-2007, 08:35 AM
Hi, registered so I could post about this.
I've only had one freeze in about six hours, when it happened I could move the camera but that was about all and my PS button also failed on me. I have the PAL 60gb model and am running 2.0. I also had an incident the first time I tried to go the kingdom, I got the the horses and their back legs were in the air and they had sunk into the ground, they'd go normal then back when I get close to them. And you can't live to the kingdom unless on horse back. But after a restart it was fine.

My flatmate has the 360 version and has even had a few issues with his bulid as well.

Just a personnal thing, can any fixes maybe improve the framerate and sort of the screen tearing? It's not that bad but next to the 360 version it is discraceful.

I was at the Crypt event on Monday and that bulid was considerably more stabile with a slightly more solid framerate as well, I don't know what you've done to it.

ddathcha
11-17-2007, 08:51 AM
Firmware v2.0

Couple hours in froze when loading the "fast forward" screen.

Framerate drops pretty consistently, which is quite unfortunate.

Tommy2Ky
11-17-2007, 08:52 AM
i just got game throw post and no problems yet for my copy just getting the hang of it it is alot of fun jumping around

ola808
11-17-2007, 08:53 AM
Ridiculous

I own half a dozen other PS3 games without these frame rate issues, freezing, bugs, etc... I also don't remember reading reviews before I buy a game where there has been more than a few customers who have had any of these issues. But how can you say it only froze up on me twice, or it only happens once in awhile and it's not that bad? And just because these issues haven't yet happened to you doesn't excuse the fact that these issues are happening BIG TIME- the pictures and video are right here. The post in Sony's forum is equally grim.

Show ubisoft you mean business. That you work hard for your money and expect to get your money's worth. TAKE THE GAME BACK.

NJ7
11-17-2007, 08:56 AM
2.00 Froze 2 times on me too.

The second time it froze I can hear the background village voices but the video is frozen. Whenever it freezes I can't even turn the PS3 off via controller!

A fix will be appreciated!

Adnocana
11-17-2007, 08:56 AM
FW 2.0

It always happens in Damascus.

but can we expect a patch on short-term or what?

stuburns
11-17-2007, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by ola808:
Show ubisoft you mean business. That you work hard for your money and expect to get your money's worth. TAKE THE GAME BACK.
What will that achieve? Do you think they will issue a new improved bulid? That would never happen, if you want the game and don't want to buy a 360 you have to keep the ****ty build and hope they fix it. If not you should have researched the purchase. The glitches are no secret, the fact that Ubi have hid the PS3 version away was clear indication it was going to be ruff.

Tommy2Ky
11-17-2007, 09:01 AM
thats right showem whos boss. i mean we should be gettin our moneys worth and this should not be brushed under the carpet by ubi if they expect us to pay 40 to 50 pounds. they have no right to let xbox gamers have a better experience than us ps3 gamers i know there was some problems making the game but they need to sort this i want ubi to post a coment and say what they are going to do

neurotoxin55
11-17-2007, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by stuburns:

I was at the Crypt event on Monday and that bulid was considerably more stabile with a slightly more solid framerate as well, I don't know what you've done to it.

If that is true, then something has gone drastically wrong. Are you sure that it was the PS3 version you saw running? is Anyone having frame rate/Screen Tearing on firmware below 2.00? I know you guys are still getting freezes in game, Maybe the New XMB Additions are infact taking up more Ram much needed for this memory hungry game. Pure speculation mind you.

In any case thats the least of the problems, playing the game without a reset is top priority.

Ramiuz
11-17-2007, 09:03 AM
Oh man Ola stop talking like that
Lets hope they can fix this with a patch or something, I'd hate to have to return this otherwise great game.

Ubisoft comon I trust you guys, You're Europeans! Give us a patch.

neurotoxin55
11-17-2007, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by Adnocana:
FW 2.0

It always happens in Damascus.

but can we expect a patch on short-term or what?

I would Expect a Press Release Next week, However i`m guessing the usual "There is no time frame for the patch to be released" type BullS**t.

Like i said earlier they have 26 days to sort this out then i`m getting a refund.

Tommy2Ky
11-17-2007, 09:05 AM
it was not an indication that its ruff its because its simpler to do a xbox demenstration you xbox bias freak

deathsknigh2007
11-17-2007, 09:05 AM
its not the firmware cause several people have called that arent running 2.0 there running older versions so.

Igarber
11-17-2007, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by ola808:

Show ubisoft you mean business. That you work hard for your money and expect to get your money's worth. TAKE THE GAME BACK.

It's what I did about 15 min. ago. The bestbuy manager was very understanding and gave me back the money. I went and bought Uncharted at the Gamestop since BB didn't have it yet.

I was going to wait for a patch, but then I read the RainbowSix:Vegas thread. Those guys have been waiting for a patch since July.

Problem solved. Good luck to you guys, hope the patch does come out.

sparkioboi
11-17-2007, 09:09 AM
Firmware 2.00. Multiple freezes, Some during gameplay, but also through the transitions within the game. Also the same freezes as macsolidworks. Only a hard reset has been able to cure these. I'm also finding the gameplay a little suss when trying to complete actions like pickpocketing etc. (when the target is moving).

stuburns
11-17-2007, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by neurotoxin55:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stuburns:

I was at the Crypt event on Monday and that bulid was considerably more stabile with a slightly more solid framerate as well, I don't know what you've done to it.

If that is true, then something has gone drastically wrong. Are you sure that it was the PS3 version you saw running? is Anyone having frame rate/Screen Tearing on firmware below 2.00? I know you guys are still getting freezes in game, Maybe the New XMB Additions are infact taking up more Ram much needed for this memory hungry game. Pure speculation mind you.

In any case thats the least of the problems, playing the game without a reset is top priority. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, it was the 360 version, what I meant was it was better then the 360 version that shipped.


Originally posted by Tommy2Ky:
it was not an indication that its ruff its because its simpler to do a xbox demenstration you xbox bias freak
I am not a bias freak, nor a fan boy, nor even a 360 owner, I am a PS3 owner, hence me posting in this thread. I have played the 360 bulid a lot over the last couple of days though, and it is far better. Regardless of fanboyism.

neurotoxin55
11-17-2007, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by Tommy2Ky:
it was not an indication that its ruff its because its simpler to do a xbox demenstration you xbox bias freak

If you were Ubisoft would you have Showcased The PS3 version? In its current state, No way.

Unfortunetly the Xbox Version does look more fluid to the PS3 version in my eyes...

Quick Buck time from ubisoft, Lazy in my opinion. Should have delayed for the PS3 pure and simple.

Tommy2Ky
11-17-2007, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by ms-kleaneasy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tommy2Ky:
I am trying to solve it and i havent got the game yet i get it xmas if you read my first post i say i havent got it yet i hope they re release it in time without problems or bring out a fix fast because it is one of the most hyped games of the year and lots of people will have brought it so needs to be sorted i hope ubi read this and act fast

If you do not yet have the game can i suggest you post in other discussions throughout the forum but this thread is purely for feedback on an issue you have not experienced because you do not own the game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE> i have it now read my new post and get back to me

XyZspineZyX
11-17-2007, 09:17 AM
<span class="ev_code_RED">To ALL...

There is a lot of general conversation running in this thread, while i understand your frustration it is important this thread remain for the specific task of gathering answers to those questions on the opening post. Please continue general conversation in the rest of the forums. If general posting continues we may be forced to cull the thread of irrelevant posts to ensure the relavent imformation can be found

Thanks</span>



Originally posted by Tommy2Ky:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ms-kleaneasy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tommy2Ky:
I am trying to solve it and i havent got the game yet i get it xmas if you read my first post i say i havent got it yet i hope they re release it in time without problems or bring out a fix fast because it is one of the most hyped games of the year and lots of people will have brought it so needs to be sorted i hope ubi read this and act fast

If you do not yet have the game can i suggest you post in other discussions throughout the forum but this thread is purely for feedback on an issue you have not experienced because you do not own the game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE> i have it now read my new post and get back to me </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So you say, although i am curious how this was to be a christmas purchase for you and then when asked not to post in this thread it suddenly arrived in the post, quite convenient http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

kaoro
11-17-2007, 09:17 AM
Yesterday I said I haven't had any freezing issues, well that's changed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Every time I boot up the PS3 and start the game, I get to the part where you walk around in fog waiting for the game to load. Well it never ends...

I have to quit the game, which makes the system pause for a moment and then beep 3 times... guess the lock up is pretty serious. Once I start it up again, it usually works, but this is frustrating and unacceptable.

Using firmware 2.0. 60gb model from December '06.

Tommy2Ky
11-17-2007, 09:21 AM
i know but my mum let me have it now and it has froze 2 times but if you disconect it from the psn it works fine for me

Pure_Mind_Games
11-17-2007, 09:22 AM
I was on it all day yesterday, and it only froze once and said "disc maybe dirty or damaged" once.

I was going to send it back to Play.com but if they're all like it i may just not bother

tmug
11-17-2007, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Ramiuz:
Using 2.0 (as if I have a choice)
The game has frozen/crashed two times, I had to reboot the machine from here.

The framerate is almost constantly laggy, never smooth. For a game that renders a whole city in one screen, you would not expect it to lag on a console, it looks like th PS3 is almost too weak for the game.

In beginning scene in the dungeon, the guy on the left moves like he is noclipping.

I always get rendering latencies. So for instance a persons scarf can appear out of nowhere when I'm closing in on him, it's real ugly.


The most annoying bug of the whole game is the laggy framerate. It's just ackward to watch. A game that looks unrendered.

good point, the firmware version isn't relevant when it's installed automatically. besides other games work fine on 2.00, some even better (skate runs a tad smoother). couldn't agree more on the graphics.

Tommy2Ky
11-17-2007, 09:26 AM
it might be because its a new game because a few months ago i got the free running game and had problems so took it back to asda (the british walmart) but my mate got it a 2 months later and the prob is fixed i also had same prob on scarface t,w,i,y

baseball400
11-17-2007, 09:31 AM
Hi to all,
my issue is to do with AC as well it freezes alot during load times but also during the time I play it the pixels on the characters,building, and landforms go crazy and make me have alot of glitches in the game like the p[eople with swords have really long pointed swords and like when your outside of the fortress the landscapes are messed up and you can't see anything but glitches. If there is can you help with that problem too thanks

tmug
11-17-2007, 09:35 AM
http://www.n4g.com/News-77920.aspx

liar liar pants on fire.

ppl, it's useless to post the firmware version. they're just asking that so it would seem it's sony's fault. Every other game I own does not freeze on fw 2.00. Judging from the posts here with ac it happens on fw 2.00, 1.94, 60gb model 40 gb model.. Take responsibility Ubisoft.

iron_cloud
11-17-2007, 09:37 AM
i have the latest version of ps3 (2.00 i believe) and the game just froze again for the second time. i was in the city of jerusalam and while trying to climb up to use my eagles eye the game froze. i am very ver disappointed at you UBI games for releasing a game that freezes and has so many other glitches. it just been disappointment and disappointment with UBI publishing, give the developers more time to work out the glitches before publishing a game, and have a QA team so no more problems like this occurs.

Pure_Mind_Games
11-17-2007, 09:39 AM
I've not noticed any Screen tearing, lagging or anything other than the 1 freeze yesterday

ola808
11-17-2007, 09:40 AM
Every other game I own does not freeze on fw 2.00.

Same here.

Tommy2Ky
11-17-2007, 09:43 AM
they need to pull it of the shelves spend more time on it and rerelease it hopefully by the new year

Beren-
11-17-2007, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by tmug:
http://www.n4g.com/News-77920.aspx

liar liar pants on fire.

ppl, it's useless to post the firmware version. they're just asking that so it would seem it's sony's fault. Every other game I own does not freeze on fw 2.00. Judging from the posts here with ac it happens on fw 2.00, 1.94, 60gb model 40 gb model.. Take responsibility Ubisoft.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif yes i agree , they want to see the version number they could take a fast look at PSN, all there agree that the game is awesome , when you can play it lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Really i wish to play this game without to use the new button that they added ( the on off switch) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

Tommy2Ky
11-17-2007, 09:50 AM
im pissed of at ubi the shoud fix these probs not just egnor them like the people still waiting for the fix on rainbow six vagas they need to sort it otherwise they will have a lot of unhappy costumers and will need more staff to answer the phones. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Tommy2Ky
11-17-2007, 09:57 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif ubi fix it

Toixer
11-17-2007, 09:59 AM
I had like 3 freezes now and I have the PAL version. No extreme tearing or framedrop except when standing on top of a tower and the camera spins around it by pressing the triangle-button.
The first freeze was after playing the game for the first time for about 2 hours. Then the next day it froze after the first hour and when I rebooted it froze again within 2-3 min in the loading screen.
I tried almost everything after the 2nd crash...switched from 1080i to 720p, turned off ps2 edge-smoothing, internet connection etc.
I just read, that somebody experienced a freeze even with firmware 1.94.

I think I do not need to mention, that this problem is really annoying. I hope you guys are working to fix this problem soon. Thank you.

Edit: 60gb 2.00 Firmware. Pal version.

MrMaximusNL
11-17-2007, 10:02 AM
I have finished the game succesfully only there were a grand total of 10 freezes in the entire game. I think this is absolute rubbish! How can ubisoft release this game with so many hickups and bugs. Utter rubbish this was!

Current setup is a 60GB 2.00Firmware PS3 PAL System. Running on 720P.

I hope there is going to be a fix really soon because this is a very very poor achievement from Ubi Montreal, how good looking Jade is or not.

Tommy2Ky
11-17-2007, 10:03 AM
hang on is everyone playing it on a pal tv praps thats why its freezing im on hd and its prety good

tmug
11-17-2007, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by Toixer:

I think I do not need to mention, that this problem is really annoying. I hope you guys are working to fix this problem soon. Thank you.

don't hold your breath, they're probably on a long vacation..

Quinn650
11-17-2007, 10:06 AM
I game on release and i have already had about zzing, get this fixed soon ubisoft or ther will be bad reviews everywhere!!

PSN: Quinn6676

Pure_Mind_Games
11-17-2007, 10:07 AM
just froze again only this time I can't move the camera

vangogh1721
11-17-2007, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by Tommy2Ky:
hang on is everyone playing it on a pal tv praps thats why its freezing im on hd and its prety good i'm on hd and that doesn't matter...i've had horrible freezing issues. its rendering the game useless IMO.

Rumi-Nation
11-17-2007, 10:09 AM
i am on 2.00 and it has frozen up on me about 10 times so far

Tommy2Ky
11-17-2007, 10:09 AM
Thay probably are on vacation after all the hard work they have put in<span class="ev_code_RED">LOL LOL LOL</span>i think they have spent to much time on the xbox version than the ps3

tmug
11-17-2007, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by Tommy2Ky:
i know but my mum let me have it now and it has froze 2 times but if you disconect it from the psn it works fine for me

isn't the game rated? as in not for kids?

wtsh
11-17-2007, 10:09 AM
OK, adding to this:

PS3 60GB PAL, FW 2.00.

Have bought yesterday after work, since then played one pretty long session (4 or 5 hours) and two rather short sessions.

- Freezes: I have NOT experienced freezes (in the classical meaning of a freeze), but at one point, when I chose 'continue' at the beginning of the second playing session today, the blue-ish loading screen came up (where you can usually navigate Altair through this surrealistisc blue/white background for a couple of seconds so you have something to do during loading time), but it didn't proceed. This screen stayed for about a minute or two, with nothing happening. I could still move the character, but that was it. Shut down system via PS button on controler, PS3 did some beeping noises, then system turned off. Next time I tried it worked fine.

Frame rate: Frankly, pretty disappointed, too. The framerate is not *constantly* bad, but you can clearly tell, the more NPCs on screen, and the 'wider' the view, the worse it gets. When you climb up a high building and look around, it's pretty bad. Bottom line, I'm not seeing myself showing this game to anybody -- bit of a disgrace to my PS3 and 'next gen' gaming in general...

Katatonia.
11-17-2007, 10:11 AM
Firmware 2.00 here 40 GB PS3 bought about 6 months ago. I have had the game freeze 3 times in various areas and once at a loading screen in roughly 12 hours of gameplay. In all cases the freeze happened within 5 minutes of starting,and was solved and not seen again after reloading. Only the loading freeze was a hard lock where I had to reboot the system, also preceding the loading freeze I had textures missing. On that freeze I was in the Kingdom area near a look out point and tried to back out of the Animus when I got the freeze.

I have not experienced any FPS loss at all, which others are reporting.

Speculation here that may or may not help Ubisoft. I do not believe that the game is at fault or at least not the game alone. Here is why it is not the game alone, if it were we would see everyone getting the problems. As we have seen there are plenty of people that have played through the game without issue. That is why the random freezing is just that, random, I have actually tried to see if I could make it happen by doing the same actions I was doing when it froze but could not.

My guess is that the game is taxing the hardware on both the PS3 and the 360 and causing it to freeze if the hardware is not performing up to snuff. This is not a 360 bash, I have an Elite too, but it is well known that the disc drives and other hardware used in them has not been of the highest quality leading to the Red Ring Of Death. It is possible that we may be having the same types of problems on he PS3 only less severe.

It is also known that Sony firmware is not always solid, could this be why 2.01 is coming out so soon?

End of the day the game is the same across the board but the hardware in each of our systems may vary by wear or even make, Sony and M$ both use what is available and cheap so the hardware is not as standard or uniform as you may think.

The game has not even been out a week so I am willing to give them some time. Perhaps I am more lenient since the freezes have not been a huge issue for me and I am enjoying the game. If the freezing goes away with just the firmware update we have our culprit and all this bashing that has been going on will look, well, silly.

Please no flaming me as a fanboy just read it and think about it.

tmug
11-17-2007, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by Katatonia.:
Firmware 2.00 here 40 GB PS3 bought about 6 months ago. I have had the game freeze 3 times in various areas and once at a loading screen in roughly 12 hours of gameplay. In all cases the freeze happened within 5 minutes of starting,and was solved and not seen again after reloading. Only the loading freeze was a hard lock where I had to reboot the system, also preceding the loading freeze I had textures missing. On that freeze I was in the Kingdom area near a look out point and tried to back out of the Animus when I got the freeze.

I have not experienced any FPS loss at all, which others are reporting.

Speculation here that may or may not help Ubisoft. I do not believe that the game is at fault or at least not the game alone. Here is why it is not the game alone, if it were we would see everyone getting the problems. As we have seen there are plenty of people that have played through the game without issue. That is why the random freezing is just that, random, I have actually tried to see if I could make it happen by doing the same actions I was doing when it froze but could not.

My guess is that the game is taxing the hardware on both the PS3 and the 360 and causing it to freeze if the hardware is not performing up to snuff. This is not a 360 bash, I have an Elite too, but it is well known that the disc drives and other hardware used in them has not been of the highest quality leading to the Red Ring Of Death. It is possible that we may be having the same types of problems on he PS3 only less severe.

It is also known that Sony firmware is not always solid, could this be why 2.01 is coming out so soon?

End of the day the game is the same across the board but the hardware in each of our systems may vary by wear or even make, Sony and M$ both use what is available and cheap so the hardware is not as standard or uniform as you may think.

The game has not even been out a week so I am willing to give them some time. Perhaps I am more lenient since the freezes have not been a huge issue for me and I am enjoying the game. If the freezing goes away with just the firmware update we have our culprit and all this bashing that has been going on will look, well, silly.

Please no flaming me as a fanboy just read it and think about it.

ok. but if the fw was the culprit, wouldn't you think that other games were affected also?

Darth_terra
11-17-2007, 10:15 AM
I have Firmware 2.00 PAL 60GB and it has frozen twice, once during game play and once during loading, both times I couldn't quit or do anything I had to turn it off by pressing the power button on the PS3 itself to force a reset, other than that it's fine no tearing or slow down for me.

Danny5060
11-17-2007, 10:15 AM
using version 2.00 here. Game freezes on occasion. Have to restart the System when this happens. When it freezes there are still AI sounds and camera still works, but no control over character and there's no movement. I can't restart the system using the PS button. Is there going to be a patch or something, or should I just get rid of my copy?

Thanks

Beren-
11-17-2007, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by Katatonia.:
Firmware 2.00 here 40 GB PS3 bought about 6 months ago. I have had the game freeze 3 times in various areas and once at a loading screen in roughly 12 hours of gameplay. In all cases the freeze happened within 5 minutes of starting,and was solved and not seen again after reloading. Only the loading freeze was a hard lock where I had to reboot the system, also preceding the loading freeze I had textures missing. On that freeze I was in the Kingdom area near a look out point and tried to back out of the Animus when I got the freeze.

I have not experienced any FPS loss at all, which others are reporting.

Speculation here that may or may not help Ubisoft. I do not believe that the game is at fault or at least not the game alone. Here is why it is not the game alone, if it were we would see everyone getting the problems. As we have seen there are plenty of people that have played through the game without issue. That is why the random freezing is just that, random, I have actually tried to see if I could make it happen by doing the same actions I was doing when it froze but could not.

My guess is that the game is taxing the hardware on both the PS3 and the 360 and causing it to freeze if the hardware is not performing up to snuff. This is not a 360 bash, I have an Elite too, but it is well known that the disc drives and other hardware used in them has not been of the highest quality leading to the Red Ring Of Death. It is possible that we may be having the same types of problems on he PS3 only less severe.

It is also known that Sony firmware is not always solid, could this be why 2.01 is coming out so soon?

End of the day the game is the same across the board but the hardware in each of our systems may vary by wear or even make, Sony and M$ both use what is available and cheap so the hardware is not as standard or uniform as you may think.

The game has not even been out a week so I am willing to give them some time. Perhaps I am more lenient since the freezes have not been a huge issue for me and I am enjoying the game. If the freezing goes away with just the firmware update we have our culprit and all this bashing that has been going on will look, well, silly.

Please no flaming me as a fanboy just read it and think about it.
Read all the posts again , slowly, this freezing, popups, artifacts, etc happens on the 2.0 and 1.93 firmware, it freezes also on the 360. Oh its Sony putting firmware updates on the 360 too!!!! my bad http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Then again read all the posts slooowly, Ubisoft made a pinned thread to report the WORLD KNOWN ISSUE OF AC FREEZING, how is this called bashing? oh you work for Ubisoft i see!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

jonavoly
11-17-2007, 10:25 AM
1. Could someone post when FW v2.01 comes out and wheather or not it fixes the problems?
2. does someone know how many ps3 versions have been sold so far and how many of them have not had problems? (I believe there must have been a lot of problems with the disc writing... mabey lots of people got bad batches?)

Katatonia.
11-17-2007, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by Beren-:

Read all the posts again , slowly, this freezing, popups, artifacts, etc happens on the 2.0 and 1.93 firmware, it freezes also on the 360. Oh its Sony putting firmware updates on the 360 too!!!! my bad http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Then again read all the posts slooowly, Ubisoft made a pinned thread to report the WORLD KNOWN ISSUE OF AC FREEZING, how is this called bashing? oh you work for Ubisoft i see!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Sure, you read my post again as well and note that I pointed to hardware on both systems. Sony has the luxury of doing firmware updates that might help, I don't believe the dashboard updates M$ does are exactly the same.

Did you not read where I said I was freezing as well? I just don't think bashing Ubisoft is at all productive at this point.

Again I said it was speculation but if you want to come here and act like a tool feel free. Me I'd rather try to help the situation.

mattiadc
11-17-2007, 10:31 AM
My PS3 freezes too. I'm an italian user with Italian PS3, 60gb, 2.0 FW. Game is the Italian version and it kind of have a pattern.

It goes like this: I start playing with the game and after a short ammount of time, from 5 to 10 minutes, the games freezes.
Then I have to shut the PS3 down with the power button on the back. I turn it on and play and now I can go on for hours (4, last night) without any more lock down. This happened to me many times, almost every single time.
Also everytime I reload after the crash, I'm ALWAYS in the same spot of the zone in which I was. For example if I was in Darmasco, after the crash I always find myself in the same spot even if my last save was everywhere else. Don't know why...

Hope you can fix it.
Don't know what's the reason

Katatonia.
11-17-2007, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by tmug:
ok. but if the fw was the culprit, wouldn't you think that other games were affected also?

Not necessarily, I don't know for sure but I imagine AC really pushes the system with the size of the area, the graphics being rendered, and the number of NPCs. If other games are not pushing as hard no problems. I am not seeing freezing in any other games, but none of my other games have as much going on at once, not even Oblivion.

ToMmypsmaster
11-17-2007, 10:35 AM
mybe its because it takes up alot of memory it might be an expensive option but may help in future try to upgrade your hard drive to 120gb and see if it works if not atleat you av more memory

msm903
11-17-2007, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by Beren-:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Katatonia.:
Firmware 2.00 here 40 GB PS3 bought about 6 months ago. I have had the game freeze 3 times in various areas and once at a loading screen in roughly 12 hours of gameplay. In all cases the freeze happened within 5 minutes of starting,and was solved and not seen again after reloading. Only the loading freeze was a hard lock where I had to reboot the system, also preceding the loading freeze I had textures missing. On that freeze I was in the Kingdom area near a look out point and tried to back out of the Animus when I got the freeze.

I have not experienced any FPS loss at all, which others are reporting.

Speculation here that may or may not help Ubisoft. I do not believe that the game is at fault or at least not the game alone. Here is why it is not the game alone, if it were we would see everyone getting the problems. As we have seen there are plenty of people that have played through the game without issue. That is why the random freezing is just that, random, I have actually tried to see if I could make it happen by doing the same actions I was doing when it froze but could not.

My guess is that the game is taxing the hardware on both the PS3 and the 360 and causing it to freeze if the hardware is not performing up to snuff. This is not a 360 bash, I have an Elite too, but it is well known that the disc drives and other hardware used in them has not been of the highest quality leading to the Red Ring Of Death. It is possible that we may be having the same types of problems on he PS3 only less severe.

It is also known that Sony firmware is not always solid, could this be why 2.01 is coming out so soon?

End of the day the game is the same across the board but the hardware in each of our systems may vary by wear or even make, Sony and M$ both use what is available and cheap so the hardware is not as standard or uniform as you may think.

The game has not even been out a week so I am willing to give them some time. Perhaps I am more lenient since the freezes have not been a huge issue for me and I am enjoying the game. If the freezing goes away with just the firmware update we have our culprit and all this bashing that has been going on will look, well, silly.

Please no flaming me as a fanboy just read it and think about it.
Read all the posts again , slowly, this freezing, popups, artifacts, etc happens on the 2.0 and 1.93 firmware, it freezes also on the 360. Oh its Sony putting firmware updates on the 360 too!!!! my bad http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Then again read all the posts slooowly, Ubisoft made a pinned thread to report the WORLD KNOWN ISSUE OF AC FREEZING, how is this called bashing? oh you work for Ubisoft i see!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

As a matter of fact when the freezing started for me I thought it was my PS3. The first two times I experienced freezing was actually on another game. Game screen froze.. audio in the background worked. AC might have a larger problem but I doubt it's just tyhe AC alone causing the issue. I do understand it's happening on both consoles

animation-imp
11-17-2007, 10:38 AM
I have a pal ps3
60 Gig
I'm running 2.00.
I had three crashes so far,
And I've just begon my second assassination.
All three times it froze within the first 10 minutes of play. It seems like if it doesn't freeze within that time limit I'm in the clear.

For all the fanboys:
If you check this site and other fora or blogs you'll see the 360 version freezes as wel.
In both versions there are people with problems and in both there are are poeple who don't experience any.

Either way. Ubi has to fix this.
I think this has the potential to become one of the biggest franchises this gen.
It would be foolish to destroy it's good reputation by forcing people to play a broken game and acting like their nose bleeds.

So Ubi, please fix this, it's the only right marketing step you guys can undertake, else this franchise will lose lots of followers.

Badhabit007
11-17-2007, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by Katatonia.:...
Speculation here that may or may not help Ubisoft. I do not believe that the game is at fault or at least not the game alone. Here is why it is not the game alone, if it were we would see everyone getting the problems....

I kinda agree with you, because my brother played more than 6 hours yesterday on his 60GB PS3 FWV2.0 and did not get any freezes and only a few frames drop. I warned him this morning of my freezes so if it happens to him he's not going to be surprised.

I just hope UBI will look in this matter and give us feedbacks. I have VEGAS Rainbow 6, and I'm very disapointed about the fact that they never fixed the 1080P to 720P switch, it's a very small problem but a very annoying one. With this in mind now, I'm a bit shy of buying HAZE on day launch.

Ciao!

Mart

Beren-
11-17-2007, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by Katatonia.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tmug:
ok. but if the fw was the culprit, wouldn't you think that other games were affected also?

Not necessarily, I don't know for sure but I imagine AC really pushes the system with the size of the area, the graphics being rendered, and the number of NPCs. If other games are not pushing as hard no problems. I am not seeing freezing in any other games, but none of my other games have as much going on at once, not even Oblivion. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok the game pushes the PS3 at his limits, is the PS3 fault , so we are doomed, no patch for it people , this is where it ends, people making posts saying is the hardware fault or the firmware, leads to , no patch or fix, Ubisoft is happy with the cash and the players keeps the freezing game. Useless bait pinned thread made from Ubisoft to lure us away from the trouble = No Patch / No fix. Thx to let me see the light Katatonia.
So the only way out of this is , return the game or sell it on ebay. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

ImOnMeDicIne
11-17-2007, 10:50 AM
I've had same issues. The game freezes up, and it hass done that like 4 times already. Along with the frame rate issues, it makes it a bit annoying... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I'm currently using the 1.94 version that came with the game on a 60 GB PS3.

v85rawdeal
11-17-2007, 10:51 AM
Only had the one freeze so far, and all it did was go into 'bullet time' and stop the action. I could still move the camera and the buttons still responded.

However, when I pressed the PS button and selected 'Quit Game', the PS3 reset.

My system is the bog-standard 60gb version, with FW2.0 instalked

megamega
11-17-2007, 10:58 AM
I have been experiencing major issues with this game as well. Including the times my Assassin's Creed game has frozen up on me while starting up the game from the XMB, I would say at least ten. My game is not scratched or dirty. Nor is it my PS3. And I have no corrupt memory data either.

Dockboy
11-17-2007, 11:03 AM
Open a forum up for Xbox 360 users. It's happening on that system too. I'm on 360 and I can't even get the game to load the menu anymore. It happened a little ways through the training the first time, then during the opening cinematic the second time, and now it won't even load the title screen. Crashes like MAD!!! This is not good.

Zereox
11-17-2007, 11:04 AM
This is really not fun i really hope for a patch.I'm sure they will eventually do it.i got around 5 or 6 Freeze most of the time when loading and one map glitch when i was running i feel trough the floor and died in water under the map.
I have a Can 60Gb PS3 FW:2.00

neurotoxin55
11-17-2007, 11:10 AM
This game was Ubisoft`s Flagship title for this year, if a patch doesn`t come out then i will not buy another Ubisoft title (HAZE), I like companys that actually listen to the customers rather than the cash thats in shareholders wallets. Look at Infinity ward, Call of duty is flawless..... When the Multiplayer was screwing up they worked all the kinks out, now they are working on a patch to improve it incorporating feedback also. Naughty Dog release a demo which was MEANT for the Us, a bug stopped the rest of the world from enjoying it, the listened to the groans from other Non-US customers, fixed the demo and re-Uploaded it, now thats service and dedication. To my knowledge Ubisoft are a MUCH larger company, i would EXPECT them to sort this out.

.....On the other hand if the problems lay with something at Sony`s end, I shall eat my shoes and remove/edit all my posts with an apology.

ABCsmoky
11-17-2007, 11:10 AM
same problem. freez after 5-10 mins...restart but than i can play for 5-6 hours without any probs. also the fps are not constant

ps3 pal 60 gb fw 2.00.
german version of AC

stipi22
11-17-2007, 11:15 AM
from what im reading, it looks like everyone is now relying on a patch to fix this.
has anyone figured out anything to help others?
im one of the few people who cant get more than 5 minutes of play time before it completely freezes and the sound continues.

seriously im getting pretty desperate and will try almost anything to get this game running smoothly, or at least run a little longer before it freezes

im running on a 20 Gb with 2.00

stuburns
11-17-2007, 11:18 AM
I can't help with the freezing but a word of advice to reduce screen tear and slightly improve frame rate, play without the HUD, it actually made a significate difference to me.

neurotoxin55
11-17-2007, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by stipi22:
from what im reading, it looks like everyone is now relying on a patch to fix this.
has anyone figured out anything to help others?
im one of the few people who cant get more than 5 minutes of play time before it completely freezes and the sound continues.

seriously im getting pretty desperate and will try almost anything to get this game running smoothly, or at least run a little longer before it freezes

I can tell you what i`ve heard from others, i`m not at home to try these things on my copy though so i`m not sure if they work.

1: Delete Assassin`s creed saved data from the harddrive, including the stuff its installed on the first play. And then play fresh.

2: Disable PSN from logging in before playing the game.

3: Disable The new News ticker from XMB which was installed with firmware 2.00.

Like i said i cannot guarentee they work, if you have some success though let us know.

mullin92
11-17-2007, 11:28 AM
Game froze twice on me but have been playing for hours and it has not froze, it is such a great game.

deathsknigh2007
11-17-2007, 11:31 AM
locked up 2 times today hasnt froze in hours now dont get why it does that.

AngryAssassin
11-17-2007, 11:59 AM
System:
- PAL PS3 40GB
- firmware 2.0

problems:
- freeze during sword combat tutorial. Only sound playing, no input possible.
- tremendous amount of tearing to the point I don't enjoy playing it.
- bad framerate, but not as annoying as the tearing.

Sold my copy 2nd hand. Maybe i'll buy the "defenitive game of the year with all glitches fixed - no beta software inside" version when it's released by the end op 2008.

Thanks Ubi, was looking forward to this one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Zereox
11-17-2007, 12:00 PM
Sony as announce Firmware 2.01 which i Think is manly for Assassin's Creed as it is stated:
2.01 is "a minor update that will improve the stability of PLAYSTATION 3."

SO if you want to have fun you rater wait 1 day or 2 for the update as it is said "PlayStation 3 Firmware version 2.01 going live in a few days"

Taylor08
11-17-2007, 12:03 PM
having hellish problems with the game, freezing up constantly, using v2.00 on the ps3 60gb, Have Ubi identified this problem yet because i don't know whether its my ps3 or an in-game problem?

Zereox
11-17-2007, 12:07 PM
Taylor08 it is not your PS3 it is because of the flaws in the new Firmware as i stated wait for the new bug fix(Firmware 2.01) from sony.

neurotoxin55
11-17-2007, 12:12 PM
I think its safe to say that other firmwares are affected also, read back, people with older firmware are having this problem. Although i`m not calling anyone a lier, Many xbox `trolls` would love to cause even more of a problem
and state things that will make things worse i.e firmware 1.93, 1.94 have problems. However most Xbox owners are pleasent, i`m not pigeon holing anyone at all...just the Forum Trolls...

....If it is the firmware then what did ubisoft test on? 1.50?

**EDIT**

I really tend to lean towards the game having issues, there are LOTS of bugs, both on 360 and PS3, whoever Beta tested this game must have been either HIGH, Or blind.

Firmware update is to do with the complaints sony have had regarding remote play not working and general system stability, all these issue`s where being reported BEFORE Assassin`s Creed was released. I`m thinking Ubisoft Will need to cut there holidays short to sort this out (LMAO).... Now back in reality this issue is gonna be around for ages, until well after the new year, even then my hopes of a fix are almost Non-Existant, but i will still be here posting for a patch..... until i get bored lol.

Taylor08
11-17-2007, 12:12 PM
ok, thanks zereox

Zereox
11-17-2007, 12:17 PM
True that I see 2 Possibilities:
1.UBI used a new process never used on PS3 by a other game so maybe the flaw whas there since the beginning.
2.Since 4 years ago Ps3 didn't exist they might even be testing on PS3 prototypes which may lead to a other flaw in the one the system was change trough out there years of PS3 conception.

Beren-
11-17-2007, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by Zereox:
Taylor08 it is not your PS3 it is because of the flaws in the new Firmware as i stated wait for the new bug fix(Firmware 2.01) from sony.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif
Man the 2.0.1 WON'T fix this freezing issue, for GOD please read it happens also on the Xbox360, don't say things that are not true giving false hopes, the game itself is a BUG, we was told to report here the troubles and versions, and even 360 owners came to report the same (will the Sony firmware fix the 360 freeze? NO). Is NOT the damn firmware is the GAME http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

XyZspineZyX
11-17-2007, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by Beren-:
Man the 2.0.1 WON'T fix this freezing issue, for GOD please read it happens also on the Xbox360, don't say things that are not true giving false hopes, the game itself is a BUG, we was told to report here the troubles and versions, and even 360 owners came to report the same (will the Sony firmware fix the 360 freeze? NO). Is NOT the damn firmware is the GAME http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Beren based on the feedback i have seen so far those experiencing freezes on the 360 also have known hardware issues associated with the consoles 'known' problems. I'm not saying they arent linked only that at the moment it seems more likely the 360 freezing is another issue altogether

Beren-
11-17-2007, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by ms-kleaneasy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beren-:
Man the 2.0.1 WON'T fix this freezing issue, for GOD please read it happens also on the Xbox360, don't say things that are not true giving false hopes, the game itself is a BUG, we was told to report here the troubles and versions, and even 360 owners came to report the same (will the Sony firmware fix the 360 freeze? NO). Is NOT the damn firmware is the GAME http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Beren based on the feedback i have seen so far those experiencing freezes on the 360 also have known hardware issues associated with the consoles 'known' problems. I'm not saying they arent linked only that at the moment it seems more likely the 360 freezing is another issue altogether </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thx and sorry for the emoticons in there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
But this means that a patch won't come and we will have to play with the freezing issue on the PS3 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif . I see thx and sorry to bother, at some point i had hope that we could have a patch or something to be able to play this game....i see that i was in a mistake, sadly or we play with the freezing game or .... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif
Again sorry and thx.
Here is where all hope ends its over... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

bdavie
11-17-2007, 12:35 PM
1.94 Updated from the version included on the game disk. No PSN connection. Not only has it frozen during game, also while reloading after a death.

XyZspineZyX
11-17-2007, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by Beren-:
Thx and sorry for the emoticons in there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
But this means that a patch won't come and we will have to play with the freezing issue on the PS3 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif . I see thx and sorry to bother, at some point i had hope that we could have a patch or something to be able to play this game....i see that i was in a mistake, sadly or we play with the freezing game or .... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif
Again sorry and thx.
Here is where all hope ends its over... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

I cant offer information on whether a patch will or wont be released, at this stage its too early to even know what is causing the issue let alone if a patch is appropriate and who needs to issue it, i realise thats frustrating for those finding it difficult to play because of this but be assured the feedback is being closely monitored and when there is more information you will be given it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

neurotoxin55
11-17-2007, 12:37 PM
Beren, ms-kleaneasy didn`t say that mate.

ms-kleaneasy`s just doing a job, 360 owners issue maybe from something else. Its to early to tell, i would expect some word from Ubisoft next week, ms-kleaneasy would i be presuming though?

Lose all hope when 2 months pass with no word lol.

XyZspineZyX
11-17-2007, 12:41 PM
neurotoxin55 i couldnt say when or what we will hear at the moment i know as much as you, all i can say is when there is something to confirm they will let you know http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

HellSniper666
11-17-2007, 12:45 PM
Hopefully we get a patch for the Freezing , Screen Tearing and Framerate.... I feel like got MUGGED!

neurotoxin55
11-17-2007, 12:46 PM
Thanks for responding, i understand completely.

Luckly i`m off out tonight so no more posts from me lol.

I hope Ubisoft can get this sorted, as to me personally their reputation is at stake... and believe me i`ve bought many a game, and been very happy with what i`ve paid for..... Just not now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.

Have a good weekend http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Zereox
11-17-2007, 12:46 PM
Thanks ms-kleaneasy. I will stop playing for now until further notice about this problem.I simply wish that it is a Software problem and that Assassin's Creed is not simply to powerful for both console. Like NeroToxine said I was really happy with every onther product from Ubi and i really thing they will do something. As some people go crazy and try to get money of this.

jonavoly
11-17-2007, 12:48 PM
One thing everyone is missing here is that the reviews didn't have freez issues...

so they should be able to find it soon, or else it really is a FW issue...

Beren-
11-17-2007, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by jonavoly:
One thing everyone is missing here is that the reviews didn't have freez issues...

so they should be able to find it soon, or else it really is a FW issue...

If the reviews (that was terrible most of them) had the freezing issue on them , then NOONE would have wasted the money on this game. Same thing happened with Rainbow Six, and no it was not on the Reviews, go take a look at Rainbow Six forums, here in Ubisoft, the PS3 users are still waiting for a patch. Now you let me thinking is Ubisoft paying to hide the freezing issue? but yes i see, i see where this is going jonavoly you are making me see the light http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Btw do you have the game on PS3 just curious? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Zereox
11-17-2007, 12:56 PM
And as Patrice Desilet said Every single thing from PS3 is on Xbox360 so they surely had to do a lot of thing to the Code and everything else to have it fit on a single DVD meaning it may result in a different problem compared to the PS3.

a705w07
11-17-2007, 12:59 PM
I just bought Assassins Creed a couple days ago and I am having freezing problems to.My PS3 is brand new,40 GB.I can still move the camera,and the game world is still alive-such as clouds blowing by,wind,sound,ect,but the guy wont move.Ive had a freezing problems 3 times now.Once while riding my horse,and the other two while just running around.Im also using PS3 firmware 2.00,witch I am starting to have my doubts about as well.I hope UBISOFT does something about this.Even if UBISOFT does release a patch,it still doesent fix a defective game disc...

neurotoxin55
11-17-2007, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by jonavoly:
One thing everyone is missing here is that the reviews didn't have freez issues...

so they should be able to find it soon, or else it really is a FW issue...

http://playstation3uk.net/ps3uk-review-assassins-creed/

Read this it does mention freezing.

The plot does thicken though as this is clearly a new review. Perhaps the other reviews were on previous firmware or the reviewers are getting caught up in this freezing pandemic? Again pure speculation, just my 2 pence...(UK) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

AltairMaster111
11-17-2007, 01:05 PM
I have frozen at least 6 times on firmware version 1.94
mostly the screen freezes and no controls available but sound continues normally. Was getting some where I could still use the ps button to quit the game or shutoff console but not lately. froze with horse in midair and altair in midair and probably mostly in high profile modes.

I think UBISOFT did there testing but firmware 1.90 and prior was what they tested on and since then sony has released new firmware for which ubisoft is not able to test for? that is my opinion as of what I have read so far.

Royal.Mist
11-17-2007, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by ms-kleaneasy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beren-:
Man the 2.0.1 WON'T fix this freezing issue, for GOD please read it happens also on the Xbox360, don't say things that are not true giving false hopes, the game itself is a BUG, we was told to report here the troubles and versions, and even 360 owners came to report the same (will the Sony firmware fix the 360 freeze? NO). Is NOT the damn firmware is the GAME http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Beren based on the feedback i have seen so far those experiencing freezes on the 360 also have known hardware issues associated with the consoles 'known' problems. I'm not saying they arent linked only that at the moment it seems more likely the 360 freezing is another issue altogether </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Of COURSE! It definitely ISN'T Ubisoft's reputation for releasing games riddled with bugs or a bad job by the Montreal team it's SOMEBODY ELSES fault. It all makes sense.

stuburns
11-17-2007, 01:07 PM
Isn't it more likely that no one reviewed the PS3 version? They aren't going to play thru both version to review them, just play thru one and then take a look to compare it with the other, and I assume Ubi would have sent out the 360 version first to ensure they played that one because it was better.

However as I said earlier the debugging 360 bulid shown at the Crypt event was better then the final 360 bulid, no slow down in five hours of playing, solid frame rate the whole time, no glitches, no bugs whatsoever.

Alg3188
11-17-2007, 01:08 PM
i dont ever have this problem with any other game with my ps3, but i had a freezing problem with both unisoft games i own, GRAW 2 and Assassins Creed. i dont know what it is it just only happens on these 2 games

McFlyGold
11-17-2007, 01:14 PM
I have a 60gb PS3 with v. 2.0 firmware. I've had a few freezes and crashes as well. My most recent one happened while in the middle of an informant mission.

Beren-
11-17-2007, 01:23 PM
The reviewer of PS3UK had the freezing issue too :

Link (http://playstation3uk.net/ps3uk-review-assassins-creed/)

"The frame rate issues are irritating to say the least because the game is very much playable since the issues on appear at time to time and aren't ongoing, but the freezing quite obviously halts the gameplay which is pretty pathetic. However annoying it is, Ubisoft are apparently working on a fix so I'll update accordingly."

ThaHammet
11-17-2007, 01:25 PM
PAL PS3 60GB
FW 2.00

Froze on me 3 times now. Usually in the first 5 minutes. After the restart I can play it for hours without a single freeze or other bug

BTW, the framerate on my copy seems rather smooth.

a705w07
11-17-2007, 01:30 PM
If a patch is released,and for some reason it still dosent fix the problem,what will be UBISOFT'S reasons for the game not working?Blame SONY?Blame PS3?Blame X-BOX?Blame GOD?If this happens,thats when I think a major recall would be in order... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

XyZspineZyX
11-17-2007, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by a705w07:
If a patch is released,and for some reason it still dosent fix the problem,what will be UBISOFT'S reasons for the game not working?Blame SONY?Blame PS3?Blame X-BOX?Blame GOD?If this happens,thats when I think a major recall would be in order... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Thats a lot of 'If's' right there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

KillahG360
11-17-2007, 01:32 PM
Dear Ubisoft,

well, this isn't new to you as I can see, but I also bought the game for the PS3 and I too have been having problems with freezing screens on different occasions (FW 2.0). I've had to reboot my console different times. Sometimes I can access my PS3 menu, but sometimes I can't. I know you're saying that you are working on this issue and I fully trust that this is the case. But what if after 1-2-3 months you still haven't come up with a solution? I payed 70 Euros for this game and If I have to wait very long to know if you can even adress the problem, then I can't get a refund at the store where I bought it. I don't know if this is only an american forum or also a european one, but anyways, just for you to know that I too have this problem. And the funny thing is that I specifically bought this title for the PS3 instead of the Xbox 360 because I wanted a good game for the PS3. By the way, is the game having problems on the Xbox 360 as well?

thedudelasse
11-17-2007, 01:37 PM
Dear Ubisoft.

Beta testing is usually done pre-launch. I did not pay 69 euros to become a beta tester.

Zereox
11-17-2007, 01:37 PM
KillahG360 I does on the Xbox also might be different reason but there is bugs on teh xbox version to.

thedudelasse good one.

Sasori_x
11-17-2007, 01:41 PM
I think this is the reason for Firmware 2.01. Not Assassins Creed.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=175645

It may still be a cause of problems for Assassins Creed, as PS3 owners have been commenting that their PS3 is crashing in-game.

EggPlanted
11-17-2007, 01:44 PM
Hi. I have the PS3 version of AC.

First, I don't know if anyone else experienced this when they updated to 2.00. When I played Uncharted demo, the game froze on me. I don't know if it was the demo itself or the update. It could just be the demo because it was a demo.

Having said that, in Assassin's Creed, the first time I experienced a game freeze where the camera could be moved around except all characters just stood there was by the hillside before entering Jerusalem. This was two days ago when I bought the game.

This morning, again, there was another game freeze after playing for about the first 10 minutes continuing the game. This time it was in Damicus(sp?).


By the way, does anyone know if there's a problem with the game's Auto-Save too ??

I mean, whenever I move into a new map and I do watch the Save Icon on the bottom middle of the screen, I expected it to save at that specific point. Then, when I shut off the machine and continued, THE GAME DOES NOT RETURN TO THE SAME SPOT. It seemed to have backtracked the save from a while back or something.
So is this normal ?

I don't know. After reading about game problems, I'm seriously wondering if the game's auto-save was or is another issue for other AC players. Can anyone answer please ?

Kostchtchie_
11-17-2007, 01:47 PM
i like the way everyone blames sony or the ps3 for shoddy work ..yeah nice one guys/girls...why dont you look at how many replys you got from reps of the game..lmao grow get educated stop passing the buck..games the problem not sony or the fw ...morons

Beren-
11-17-2007, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by Sasori_x:
I think this is the reason for Firmware 2.01. Not Assassins Creed.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=175645
Oh then Sony somehow updated the Xbox360 to 2.0 too, and what about all the users with the update 1.93 having the freeze issue too? oh http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif
The Game is faulty on PS3, xbox360, firmware 2.0 and 1.93 (that comes with the game). No matter the region , HDD, or version. We got a faulty software, now how the company will respond to a such huge disaster? saying that is the 2.0 firmware? what about the 1.93 and the xbox360? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

Zereox
11-17-2007, 01:49 PM
The saving is completely fine if your in a town you will respond in the Assassin's Bureau which is normal as i don't know for being in the kingdom as I never stop playing inside of it.

Beren- is 100% right only UBI can do something now
Nor sony either Windows can do something its almost sure that it is software defect.

Beren-
11-17-2007, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by Kostchtchie_:
i like the way everyone blames sony or the ps3 for shoddy work ..yeah nice one guys/girls...why dont you look at how many replys you got from reps of the game..lmao grow get educated stop passing the buck..games the problem not sony or the fw ...morons
Those replies are from Ubisoft members trying to bypass the REAL trouble that is the game itself.

Epyon
11-17-2007, 01:51 PM
Hello Ubisoft.

I just created an account so I could chime in about the glitches....

It's really such a shame. I pretty much like everything about this game, but the screen tearing and crashing hold this game back greatly. It's crashed on me about eight times now and the screen tearing completely offsets the visuals. I can only marginally enjoy this game with it's current situation. This has the potential to be one of the best games ever, but it simply cannot be enjoyed.

If you can manage to fix these problems though in the near future (crashing and screen tearing) then you'll have gained a loyal customer. Please try your hardest. I really want to enjoy this game.

Sasori_x
11-17-2007, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by Beren-:

Oh then Sony somehow updated the Xbox360 to 2.0 too, and what about all the users with the update 1.93 having the freeze issue too? oh http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif
The Game is faulty on PS3, xbox360, firmware 2.0 and 1.93 (that comes with the game). No matter the region , HDD, or version. We got a faulty software, now how the company will respond to a such huge disaster? saying that is the 2.0 firmware? what about the 1.93 and the xbox360? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

You just developed the point i was trying to make =/
Firmware 2.00 might be a cause of some problems regarding AC on the PS3 because PS3 owners have reported after updating to 2.00, their games (not just AC) have been freezing. Although, in my opinion, it is not the main cause of all the other problems.
It is most likely AC just full of bugs.

EggPlanted
11-17-2007, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by Kostchtchie_:
i like the way everyone blames sony or the ps3 for shoddy work ..yeah nice one guys/girls...why dont you look at how many replys you got from reps of the game..lmao grow get educated stop passing the buck..games the problem not sony or the fw ...morons

You don't need to insult people. Thanks, Mr. Obvious for pointing out the problem's with the Game. Others know that too. Duh.

I was just breaking down the detail of my own personal experience.

Beren-
11-17-2007, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by Sasori_x:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beren-:

Oh then Sony somehow updated the Xbox360 to 2.0 too, and what about all the users with the update 1.93 having the freeze issue too? oh http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif
The Game is faulty on PS3, xbox360, firmware 2.0 and 1.93 (that comes with the game). No matter the region , HDD, or version. We got a faulty software, now how the company will respond to a such huge disaster? saying that is the 2.0 firmware? what about the 1.93 and the xbox360? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

You just developed the point i was trying to make =/
Firmware 2.00 might be a cause of some problems regarding AC on the PS3 because PS3 owners have reported after updating to 2.00, their games (not just AC) have been freezing. Although, in my opinion, it is not the main cause of all the other problems.
It is most likely AC just full of bugs and the lot. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Holy you edited your post, and again is not the firmware , read and you will find users with the 1,93, and xbox users too. But oh yes , this whole thread is just a bait from Ubisoft to use us as puppets , to think that they will fix this big messup of software. I say a recall for all the games should be in place.

Exactly the same thing that they made with Rainbow Six . People don't believe in this thread, go and see the Rainbow Six forums, PS3 users are still waiting for a patch!!!!!!

Zereox
11-17-2007, 02:00 PM
Guys look what I found on the french forum of UBI posted by The Assistant Community Manager of Ubi soft:
http://forums-fr.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2731068784/m/8191077806
Translation by babel fish:

To put the things at light, considering my answers are lost to the medium of the topics, I will like to list some important points here.

- first of all, none of our many tests preceding the exit by the play revealed these problems of freeze/framerate, we were thus not well-informed at the time to market the play. For those which doubt our honesty, think well that it would be quite simply suicidal to let leave in connaisance cause a play if awaited with these problems. We have great hopes in this play to mark the spirit of the players, us never would thus have let the play leave if we had been informed of these problems.

- the players of PS3 all are not in the same way touched: some do not have any problems, others "" had only one or two freezes and of light decelerations, others still have frequent freezes and enormous decelerations.

- the version Xbox 360 of the play is quasi not touched. The majority of the players on this platform does not have a problem, unfortunately some others are touched.

The problem thus comes from a still unknown source, which had not touched the tests (what explains why we did not know), and in particular which had not touched the players at the time of our "Day Fans", where one had played a whole day without having such problems.

We make presently current to determine the source of these problems, for thus allowing all the players to benefit from the adventure suggested by Assassin' S Creed. Because our wish is before very that you can profit from an exceptional experiment of play by incarnating Altaïr, without it being wasted by such technical problems.

All our excuses once again, and thank you still with all for your comprehension, while hoping to be able to give you a solution very quickly.

msg2584
11-17-2007, 02:03 PM
i am, and it's pissing me off.

EggPlanted
11-17-2007, 02:07 PM
I'm sorry, but I have to say this.

For a well-respected game developer to have these issues in a brand-spanking new product is a disappointment.

I should have bought Uncharted instead !

~~~

Ideally, they should work on a patch which resolves these problems for all (not just the majority who have problems) AC players to download for FREE if it's possible. But even the patch might be glitchy. Haha !

DeathProphet
11-17-2007, 02:08 PM
Update on the issue. I actually had it Hard Freeze on me for the first time. A hard freeze is where I can't access any options through my controller and have to turn it off from the console. I hope you make something happen Ubisoft, as I have always loved your titles.

deathsknigh2007
11-17-2007, 02:10 PM
this is pritty rediculous i imagine this cant be good for our consoles either the constant freezing and resetting this needs to be fixed asap.

freeze_bug
11-17-2007, 02:11 PM
- Firmware version 2.0

In about 12h of playing it froze 4 times.

Different places, like between cities while riding, once while tracking a interrogation target etc.

Also there are some framerate and tearing issues.

Anyway, as I've bought the PS3 to not experience the PC gaming practices (release beta software as final), I am very dissapointed about this.

EggPlanted
11-17-2007, 02:16 PM
Mark my words.

IF THERE IS NO RESOLVE from these issues, I will trade the game and get a different one. That's how upset I am at this point even while enjoying the game.

lengend
11-17-2007, 02:17 PM
i dunno but i hope theres a fix soon, whats the point of a fix in a month when we already beat the game -_-

the only reason i bought a ps3 so early was for Assassin's Creed or i would of waited by christmas -_-

JediBaja
11-17-2007, 02:19 PM
So my third time playing the game, it froze when exiting the Assassin's bureau in Jerusalem during the "fast forwarding to a more recent memory" part. Again "white screen of death, but with the animated loading part.

It really is disappointing with all of these technical issues. Everytime I've played the game, I've had to restart my system. I'm glad that Ubisoft has acknowledged the problems though. Hopefully, we will have a fix for them soon.

version 2.00

lostassassin123
11-17-2007, 02:24 PM
-----xXx Warning: Stupid post ahead xXx-----

That thread at first maked me decide not to buy AC, now I have a tiny little hope, and I need help, because I don`t own the game myself...
I do know, that people have problems with 1.94 too, but I ask for help.
If YOU have a 2.00 version, please, do the following:
Try to play AC with and without the information board.
Post then, the gameplay difference, like more/less glitches and more/less freezing.

Thank You, for You attention. http://media.ubi.com/us/forum_images/gf-glomp.gif

-----xXx the End xXx-----

Beren-
11-17-2007, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by lostassassin123:
----------

That thread at first maked me decide not to buy AC, now I have a tiny little hope, and I need help, because I don`t own the game myself...
I do know, that people have problems with 1.94 too, but I ask for help.
If YOU have a 2.00 version, please, do the following:
Try to play AC with and without the information board.
Post then, the gameplay difference, like more/less glitches and more/less freezing.

Thank You, for You attention. http://media.ubi.com/us/forum_images/gf-glomp.gif

-----xXx the End xXx-----
Hi and yes on the PSN we have some threads with people turning off the info board and disabling the PSN. Difference none still freezing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

KillahG360
11-17-2007, 02:43 PM
Hahaha, well, this goes fast as I can see. So X-Box 360 people have problems too. Just for an update. I too have experience the screen tearing and the drop in framerate (besides the freezes and hard freezes).

The tearing is mostly at the "present" screen with the lab doctor. I thought my PS3 was freaking out at first. Then I thought it was supposed to represent the security cameras in the building making that effect. But as I can see it's just another problem.

The framerate drop happened only once so far. I was just entering the assassins office and then the frame rate dropped. After a reset it started working "normally" again until it froze again.

The funny thing is, that the game (when it works) is really enjoyable. Too bad for all the problems.

Francisco_Nvs
11-17-2007, 03:10 PM
Everytime i play Assassins Creed It always Freezes on me dont no why, also thought i was the only 1 with this issue. I hope nothing happens 2 my ps3

ABCsmoky
11-17-2007, 03:13 PM
lol first videos on youtube show the problem xD

have fun... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltgnjilao7Y)

lostassassin123
11-17-2007, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by Beren-:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by lostassassin123:
----------

That thread at first maked me decide not to buy AC, now I have a tiny little hope, and I need help, because I don`t own the game myself...
I do know, that people have problems with 1.94 too, but I ask for help.
If YOU have a 2.00 version, please, do the following:
Try to play AC with and without the information board.
Post then, the gameplay difference, like more/less glitches and more/less freezing.

Thank You, for You attention. http://media.ubi.com/us/forum_images/gf-glomp.gif

-----xXx the End xXx-----
Hi and yes on the PSN we have some threads with people turning off the info board and disabling the PSN. Difference none still freezing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Poor Animus xD

Tam
11-17-2007, 03:19 PM
Fw 2.0, i switched off my info bar and it does nothing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. All i get is hard frezes aswll so i can't even quit with The PS button. Hope they fix this soon because it's really annoying when you start getting into the game and it just all of a sudden freezes. Also the amount of freezes i get is unbeliable i can play the game for 5 mins max and about 10 secs minimum.

lostassassin123
11-17-2007, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Tam:
Fw 2.0, i switched off my info bar and it does nothing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. All i get is hard frezes aswll so i can't even quit with The PS button. Hope they fix this soon because it's really annoying when you start getting into the game and it just all of a sudden freezes. Also the amount of freezes i get is unbeliable i can play the game for 5 mins max and about 10 secs minimum.
Here`s my little research:
Like 1/4 people have Freezing issues(FI next time).4/5 did returned the game back.1/100 after the trade haven`t FI at all anymore...
Some discs are normal, as we can see...
The only solve for now, is to trade the game, 'till You get the normal version.
That`s what I will do, if I got the FI one...
Good luck http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

joshrad
11-17-2007, 03:37 PM
I have had it freeze up 3 times, and I just bought the damn game. We really need to get refunds or working game. It is a great game, but everytime you get momentum it freezes up and ruins the fun.

I am using v1.94. Lame. Very lame for next gen and $60.

Banjomanman
11-17-2007, 04:00 PM
I'm running firmware 2.00 and I bought Assassin's Creed yesterday. It's frozen on me twice after about 4-5 hours of gameplay. One thing I'm really scared of is if it freezes during an autosave. That'll most likely corrupt my save, and I'll have to start over. That, in my opinion, in a game-breaking fault.

I swear to god, if Ubisoft doesn't patch the game somehow, I'm going to file a claims suit for shipping a broken game to consumers. This JUST shouldn't be endured, we paid 60 dollars for this game, the least that we should be assured of is a stable game. One of the absolute rules of programming is that your product should never crash. Its somewhat acceptable to glitch, to have errors, and all that kind of stuff, but crashing is unacceptable in the world of programming.

And I mean it Ubi, if you don't patch the game, I will file a suit.

Metal-Dragon
11-17-2007, 04:02 PM
The tearing is security cameras, the only time I get it is when getting out of bed and you get the view from the security camera. The funny thing about the game is there are lots of glitches that are supposed to be there, its confusing a lot of people lol.

My ps3 has locked up too though, i have version 2.00 and it has locked up 3 times in about 2-3 hours of play. This doesnt happen to me during the loading section though, only when running around the city. First time I could spin the screen round and press buttons but nothing happened, everyone was paused in mid stride lol.

Last 2 times it totally locked, and had to be reset by the power button. Bit nervous really caus I dont want my ps3 to pop!

EggPlanted
11-17-2007, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by Banjomanman:

I swear to god, if Ubisoft doesn't patch the game somehow, I'm going to file a claims suit for shipping a broken game to consumers. This JUST shouldn't be endured, we paid 60 dollars for this game, the least that we should be assured of is a stable game. One of the absolute rules of programming is that your product should never crash. Its somewhat acceptable to glitch, to have errors, and all that kind of stuff, but crashing is unacceptable in the world of programming.

And I mean it Ubi, if you don't patch the game, I will file a suit.

Add me to your list of consumer complaint please if and when you do.

By the way, I joined this site just to address my problem with the game. How stupid is that, right ?
I was referred to this by N4G.com where members contribute news in games industry.

Redstorm74
11-17-2007, 04:13 PM
Also having the issue, froze up twice for me so far, once during the second(?)assassination, right when you get the message that the dude is heading into the guard tower. And the second time leaving the assassins guild got stuck in 'fast forwarding to a more recent memory and just stayed in the white screen. Love the game, but now I totally do not feel like even playing it until this gets sorted.

60 gb model and firmware version 2.0

PaleProphet
11-17-2007, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Banjomanman:
I swear to god, if Ubisoft doesn't patch the game somehow, I'm going to file a claims suit for shipping a broken game to consumers. This JUST shouldn't be endured, we paid 60 dollars for this game, the least that we should be assured of is a stable game. One of the absolute rules of programming is that your product should never crash. Its somewhat acceptable to glitch, to have errors, and all that kind of stuff, but crashing is unacceptable in the world of programming.

And I mean it Ubi, if you don't patch the game, I will file a suit.

sounds like a good idea
unfortunately the cost isn't practical for most of us

i haven't got the game yet
i must admit, i'm having second thought about it now

Objectivity2007
11-17-2007, 04:24 PM
I've had both lockups, the one where I can still move the camera and quite the game and the other where the whole system locked up.

In an effort to help find to problem and solve it, rather than just complain about it, I would offer this - each time I've locked up I was running through the city holding down R1. What can I say, having to walk everywhere takes too long. I'm all for verisimilitude, but walking past the same people repeatedly takes too long.

EggPlanted
11-17-2007, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by PaleProphet:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Banjomanman:
I swear to god, if Ubisoft doesn't patch the game somehow, I'm going to file a claims suit for shipping a broken game to consumers. This JUST shouldn't be endured, we paid 60 dollars for this game, the least that we should be assured of is a stable game. One of the absolute rules of programming is that your product should never crash. Its somewhat acceptable to glitch, to have errors, and all that kind of stuff, but crashing is unacceptable in the world of programming.

And I mean it Ubi, if you don't patch the game, I will file a suit.

sounds like a good idea
unfortunately the cost isn't practical for most of us
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's true. I just want to be added to the complaints list though. If that's expensive, then I guess I'll pass.

cmurf1980
11-17-2007, 04:34 PM
hi i have version 2.00 and it froze up on me on the way to first mission in damascus, just after i got my first eagle view point on a tower on the road to damascus the people walking by all looked like they had broken backs and running around with flappy arms. i killed a couple of guards and walked up the road a bit more and it froze.

i hope ubi make a patch to fix this as im worried about it freezing up my ps3 for good and i was looking forward to this game.

EggPlanted
11-17-2007, 04:35 PM
You know what the real sad part is ?

I've seen behind the scenes videos recently where one of the producers or the creative director started production a little after Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time was released. So basically they had 4 to 5 years or something which is more than enough time than average in creating a game, right ? Correct me if I'm wrong.

I mean, I know it's a milestone with a new IP for the new consoles, but I think they should have spent more time working out the bugs in the final stages of completion. That's all I'm saying.

Other games have approximately 3 years (just my guess) for production and they don't suffer severe problems like freezing,
right ?

Sorry. Now I'm getting more agitated seeing as how I feel ripped off.

luckymitch88
11-17-2007, 04:46 PM
I have a ps3 80gb and I played it first with the 1.94 FW that came on the game, it froze so I decided to update to the 2.0 and it freezed quite often.

I posted this on gamespot

"

Well this may be too soon to tell but I thought I might share my experience incase some of you are dieing to play again. I have noticed that when I first started playing I had no freezes at all, then later on they happend often. I then realized that earlier on I did all the view points first then did the other quests after and that later on I did a view point then the other quests at the same time, not getting the full map explored yet. Now I am doing all the view points first and I have had 0 freezes.

So do all the view points first and that may help it may not, like I said this is too early to tell but hey at least I can try to beat this game now Hope this helped cause this game is amazing and deserves to be played!"

Still I have had no problems so I think that this may be linked, maybe not but thought I might share my 2 cents.

avsrule247
11-17-2007, 04:46 PM
Other games also aren't as big....

All I can say is: I guess we know now why the live demos were never shown on a PS3!

HellSniper666
11-17-2007, 04:49 PM
These Problems of Screen Tearing, Frame-rate and Freezing is Unacceptable, Us consumers shelled out a lot of money for a FINISHED product...What we got was a game full of problems.. I ask you UBISOFT when will you guys put out a patch for the Screen Tearing, Frame-rate and Freezing. This is not an isolated incident, It is a problem among PS3 and 360 players alike.... Atleast you guys can present us with some answers.

Beren-
11-17-2007, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by avsrule247:
Other games also aren't as big....

All I can say is: I guess we know now why the live demos were never shown on a PS3!
Oblivion is Big , yes Bigger than AC a LOT bigger, and it does not freeze like mad http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

I wish to know how are we the users / gamers protected against faulty software, that can damage the system? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

What about Rainbow 6 Vegas?, Ubisoft made the same exact post as this one and guess what? We are still waiting for a patch http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif
I hope that this is not another LIE http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sleepzzz.gif

EggPlanted
11-17-2007, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by Beren-:
Oblivion is Big , yes Bigger than AC a LOT bigger, and it does not freeze like mad http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif


Exactly. That's what I mean.

For AC, I guess it didn't receive the same quality control as other Ubi games...

BetaFox
11-17-2007, 05:07 PM
Mine Freezes whist in the game and once today on teh 'saving' screen. Also teh framrate dropped dramatically, like I was playing in ver slo-mo.

I'm using the most updated FW avaliable for the European PS3s.

Come on Ubisoft, what on rearth are you playing at, releasing a game that has glitches?!

Xboxbydegrees
11-17-2007, 05:11 PM
My game has had the white screen 3 times now. It is when I am trying to go to leave a city. I have 2.0 as well. The game has also frozen twice.

hitmon
11-17-2007, 05:14 PM
I am running on 2.00. I have frozen twice so far. They both happened when I attempted to run outside the Assassin HQ. (the entrance/exit near the training grounds) I was able to move the camera around, but I was unable to continue gameplay.

lengend
11-17-2007, 05:16 PM
if this corrupts my harddrive and i need a new harddrive, i am filing a law suit claim.

Crasher777
11-17-2007, 05:20 PM
after Assassin's Creed frozen up on me several times I stoped playing it until they fix it,they have to,they got to,they must fix it.
otherwise I(we)can say buying Assasin's Creed = Thow out your money on wind
I still replay time to time Prince of Persia 1,2,3 on my PS2 and I love it,but this....
I have 12 PS3 games and only AC freezes up.
and warhawk never freezed on me before,and after AC frozed several times,warhawk start to freez too (2x),hmm

(excuses for my English)

Open_Bar
11-17-2007, 05:24 PM
IN FRANCE TOO

WE HAve lot of problem in FRANCE

FreeeZZ AND VERY LOW FPS AFTER Kill Target

Bye

Beren-
11-17-2007, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by Open_Bar:
IN FRANCE TOO

WE HAve lot of problem in FRANCE

FreeeZZ AND VERY LOW FPS AFTER Kill Target

Bye
Well we know for sure not to buy Haze, or any Ubisoft software, seeing that all these 412+ posts are being ignored. Wow what a big mistake. I know that we are only players but we don't deserve this really we don't http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Crasher777
11-17-2007, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by Beren-:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Open_Bar:
IN FRANCE TOO

WE HAve lot of problem in FRANCE

FreeeZZ AND VERY LOW FPS AFTER Kill Target

Bye
Well we know for sure not to buy Haze, or any Ubisoft software, seeing that all these 412+ posts are being ignored. Wow what a big mistake. I know that we are only players but we don't deserve this really we don't http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

EggPlanted
11-17-2007, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by Beren-:

I wish to know how are we the users / gamers protected against faulty software, that can damage the system? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

What about Rainbow 6 Vegas?, Ubisoft made the same exact post as this one and guess what? We are still waiting for a patch http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif
I hope that this is not another LIE http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sleepzzz.gif


I guess I have to stop playing and delete my AC Game Data before it could possibly harm my hard drive or console. Hmm...

Seriously ?? RB6V had similar issues ?? So this wasn't the first time. That's surprising. I'm not a FPS gamer so I didn't know about that.
I think I lost a lot of respect for Ubi now.

Beren-
11-17-2007, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by EggPlanted:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beren-:

I wish to know how are we the users / gamers protected against faulty software, that can damage the system? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

What about Rainbow 6 Vegas?, Ubisoft made the same exact post as this one and guess what? We are still waiting for a patch http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif
I hope that this is not another LIE http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sleepzzz.gif


I guess I have to stop playing and delete my AC Game Data before it could possibly harm my hard drive or console. Hmm...

Seriously ?? RB6V had similar issues ?? So this wasn't the first time. That's surprising. I'm not a FPS gamer so I didn't know about that.
I think I lost a lot of respect for Ubi now. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes look Here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/8971060175) RB6 Vegas forum and supposely a patch for the game and we are still waiting LOL.Is the same history ... a thread (well there are 3 threads) and NO patch!!!!! Ubisoft this is bad, for us i know that the company don't give a cent for us players lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

pillaysteven
11-17-2007, 05:48 PM
Finished the game.

Froze twice altogether, once when getting onto the horse for the first time, and the other time was sneaking up on a random guard on a roof with a flag on it.

I was horrified with the amount of slowdown when you see all those innocents very close to the end. I mean really that should have been fixed... or maybe even have less people. There was no need for THAT many. I can't figure out why this wasn't fixed... it makes no sense to me!

Overall though, fantastic game!!! Well done Ubi. Now get that patch out and make us all really happy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

EDIT: Firmware = 2.00

EggPlanted
11-17-2007, 06:01 PM
I'd like to bring this to everyone's attention.

Found it on N4G.com just now.

AC for PS3 ~ "White Screen of Death" (http://www.n4g.com/gaming/News-85200.aspx)

Thankfully, I haven't experienced that... yet.

Beren-
11-17-2007, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by EggPlanted:
I'd like to bring this to everyone's attention.

Found it on N4G.com just now.

AC for PS3 ~ "White Screen of Death" (http://www.n4g.com/gaming/News-85200.aspx)

Thankfully, I haven't experienced that... yet.
Its all over the net, even on gamespot and major gaming sites, lol even on youtube the 1st vids are for the glitches and freezing. Hello Ubisoft here? anyone? the players want an answer!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

MacSolidWorks
11-17-2007, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by ola808:

Show ubisoft you mean business. That you work hard for your money and expect to get your money's worth. TAKE THE GAME BACK.

You will not be showing anyone at Ubisoft anything if you take the game back to the store. Ubisoft is for all intents and purposes a wholesaler to the major outlet electronic and gaming stores. Ubisoft will never notice that you've returned your game.

In my opinion, the best way to let your frustrations out in a constructive fashion is to contact Ubi directly throught their provided e-mail bug reports.

In fact this thread is sponsored by Ubisoft in an information gathering attempt to pinpoint the problem.

Scythos
11-17-2007, 06:11 PM
First of all, great concept for a game! Now the bad...I have played the game for many hours now and love it, however, I have experienced the worst screen tearing and freezing that I have ever seen on a high profile game like AC. I have been looking forward to this game for over 7 months with great anticipation that this might possibly be the best stealth game ever. I am happy for the most part with game play, but PLEASE fix the bugs in this game. The slowdowns, freezes and screen tearing are insanely distracting at various points. So much so, that it really ruins the experience I have playing the game. I am writing in this forum, with the hopes that your company cares about product quality and customer service. Please don't forget about us PS3 loyal fans. I (and all my friends, like many others) will buy or pass on HAZE depending on how you respond to these issues. Please, Please, Please don't disappoint us. (and add some new weapons on future patches ...after you fix the original game of course)

Ramiuz
11-17-2007, 06:20 PM
I am slightly annoyed now. Did Ubisoft test this game on PS3 at all before shipping? Cause it seems these problems are not individual, it seems they happen on absolutely every PS3 out there. How can you ignore this problem? Some people work hard for the money these games cost.

ola808
11-17-2007, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by MacSolidWorks:

Ubisoft will never notice that you've returned your game.



Well of course they won't notice it directly when one game is returned. Were you trying to say something that doesn't already resonate throughout this forum?

Zereox
11-17-2007, 06:30 PM
Guys I think you know this has been made in Montreal which means French if you look at my post you can see that they are currently working on the problem:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5...861062906#7861062906 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5191065806?r=7861062906#7861062906)

You guys should check the UBI french forums there are administrator that talk on that forum. And responds and there first post in the the post i posted.

Beren-
11-17-2007, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by Zereox:
Guys I think you know this has been made in Montreal which means French if you look at my post you can see that they are currently working on the problem:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5...861062906#7861062906 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5191065806?r=7861062906#7861062906)

You guys should check the UBI french forums there are administrator that talk on that forum. And responds and there first post in the the post i posted.
Thx man but here we are all alone http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
And i am scared that Ubisoft can do the same that did with RB6 Vegas
Look Here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/8971060175) RB6 Vegas forum and supposely a patch for the game and we are still waiting LOL.Is the same history ... a thread (well there are 3 threads) and NO patch!!!!! Ubisoft this is bad, for us i know that the company don't give a cent for us players lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

hitmon
11-17-2007, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Zereox:
Guys I think you know this has been made in Montreal which means French if you look at my post you can see that they are currently working on the problem:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5...861062906#7861062906 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5191065806?r=7861062906#7861062906)

You guys should check the UBI french forums there are administrator that talk on that forum. And responds and there first post in the the post i posted.

Until a patch is done and released, it is nothing but talk and BS.

lordsithfelix
11-17-2007, 06:42 PM
I play the game fo approxymatly 12 hours now and it freeze on me once in th assasin's house on the first assasination mission

SPECS:
- Assasin's Creed Collectors Edition
- PS3 80 gig
- Firmware 2.00
- On Custom thème is Applied on the XBM

Hope this will help

Zereox
11-17-2007, 06:42 PM
I check the forums 1 moderator(UBI employe) posted about a patch then no more.But can you imagine UBISOFT could got down if everyone Sue's UBI Image all the people that bought it. Getting refund for everyone dam that would hurt I just hope there not joking anymore and they will actully do it cause this is making a really bad REP for UBI.And this might be the end...

Kostchtchie_
11-17-2007, 06:47 PM
you guys still getting ignored..lmao..i hope for all your sakes its fw problem..i highly doubt that though concidering other new games out like cod4 / uncharted dont hav these issues

oh well good luck ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

MacSolidWorks
11-17-2007, 07:08 PM
To Moderator:

Perhaps it would now be more helpful create a new thread to determine which lot numbers are Problematic.

The lot number should be on the game case somewhere (I'm not near mine at the moment so I can't look)

Since obviously the vast majority of purchasers are not experiencing our problems, maybe it was a specific lot that is having issues. Or maybe only those Blu-ray disks from a certain duplicating house that are to blame.

In my mind this would be another avenue to approach in hopes of narrowing the search parameters.

Manufacturing issues are certainly not out of the question, especially with such a narrow beam diameter used with the blu-ray.

Furthermore, from what I've seen in this and other forums, the 360 has fewer problems than the PS3, a disk manufacturing error with a DVD is orders of magnitude less probable than with blu-ray (or HD-DVD) due to the smaller beam diameter.

I hope you will consider this seriously.

Beren-
11-17-2007, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by MacSolidWorks:
To Moderator:

Perhaps it would now be more helpful create a new thread to determine which lot numbers are Problematic.

The lot number should be on the game case somewhere (I'm not near mine at the moment so I can't look)

Since obviously the vast majority of purchasers are not experiencing our problems, maybe it was a specific lot that is having issues. Or maybe only those Blu-ray disks from a certain duplicating house that are to blame.

In my mind this would be another avenue to approach in hopes of narrowing the search parameters.

Manufacturing issues are certainly not out of the question, especially with such a narrow beam diameter used with the blu-ray.

Furthermore, from what I've seen in this and other forums, the 360 has fewer problems than the PS3, a disk manufacturing error with a DVD is orders of magnitude less probable than with blu-ray (or HD-DVD) due to the smaller beam diameter.

I hope you will consider this seriously.
Hi this is a worldwide issue http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif , so are lots all over the world with troubles , and over the PSN , AC secction, every single player have the bugs, artifacts, slowdown and all have freezing, no matter wich country.Time to talk to the stores who sold us the game to start a defective software issue. Then the store will have to deal with Ubisoft. I already wrote to Amazon a loong nice returning mail for defective software http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gif

ola808
11-17-2007, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by MacSolidWorks:
To Moderator:

Perhaps it would now be more helpful create a new thread to determine which lot numbers are Problematic.

The lot number should be on the game case somewhere (I'm not near mine at the moment so I can't look)

Since obviously the vast majority of purchasers are not experiencing our problems, maybe it was a specific lot that is having issues. Or maybe only those Blu-ray disks from a certain duplicating house that are to blame.

In my mind this would be another avenue to approach in hopes of narrowing the search parameters.

Manufacturing issues are certainly not out of the question, especially with such a narrow beam diameter used with the blu-ray.

Furthermore, from what I've seen in this and other forums, the 360 has fewer problems than the PS3, a disk manufacturing error with a DVD is orders of magnitude less probable than with blu-ray (or HD-DVD) due to the smaller beam diameter.

I hope you will consider this seriously.

Usefulness is a powerful motivator. I have my son watching Thomas the choo choo train everyday where he can see useful trains in action. The shows get my son really motivated that he can be useful too. But you are implying that we need to get together to help this org solve their problem when they are the gaming PROS. This $60 game is not living up to expectations. How about if I came out to your house as ola808 construction to professionally remodel your kitchen but left you with a leaky faucet. Would you then say it's okay cause you know a little bit about plumbing? Of course not.

We don't need another hero just a product that delivers.

Kadwen_
11-17-2007, 07:40 PM
FW 2.0 and i will freeze about once every hour or so

akafullmetal
11-17-2007, 07:47 PM
i've just started playing, and in my 3 hours of playing it has froze twice on me, once when i collect one of the flags, and then i started moving, and it froze, and the other when the white screen came up to load me somewhere to another memory, really need to patch this up, not even excusable for a game to be sold for 60 dollars and do this, plus the tearing in the game is horrible

alrillo
11-17-2007, 07:58 PM
How do I get a refund? The game is ****, it freezes so often is is unplayable.

jcorneilson
11-17-2007, 08:16 PM
2.00 freezing like everyone else. 3 times within 4hrs. It's getting annoying. Let me know when there is a way to fix it.

lewdvig
11-17-2007, 08:23 PM
2.0 launch 60 GB model. blus-30089 343394-disc

I had my first lockup today after playing the game for 6 hours (three hours last night and three this morning). I went in and then out of eagle eye view really fast in Jerusalem and Bam!

Love the game. For a history buff like me this is awesome.

Better framerate, LOD and filtering transitions would be great. But I can live with it the way it is.

Stability should be fixed though. The frequent saves should prevent too much data loss, but hard reseting my PS3 freaks me out a bit.

lewdvig
11-17-2007, 08:32 PM
I should have bought Uncharted instead !


Are you serious? You bought this instead of a Naughty Dog or Insomniac game? You are nuts.

First rule of PS game buying: always buy the first party games first. That way you will not be disappointed.

Briggade_707
11-17-2007, 08:44 PM
60 gig
FW 2.00

Just finished the game and i've had 7 freezes and 4 instances of having no sound at all. I've also experienced extreme loss of frame rate a few times as well. I don't have my ps3 hooked up to a modem so its not signed in to the psn. I have tried disabling the auto sign in feature and also disabled the remote play features of the ps3 to no avail.
Great game .. horrible bugs

Crasher777
11-17-2007, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by lewdvig:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
I should have bought Uncharted instead !


Are you serious? You bought this instead of a Naughty Dog or Insomniac game? You are nuts.

First rule of PS game buying: always buy the first party games first. That way you will not be disappointed. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah man! I did same stupid thing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

EggPlanted
11-17-2007, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by MacSolidWorks:

You will not be showing anyone at Ubisoft anything if you take the game back to the store. Ubisoft is for all intents and purposes a wholesaler to the major outlet electronic and gaming stores. Ubisoft will never notice that you've returned your game.

In my opinion, the best way to let your frustrations out in a constructive fashion is to contact Ubi directly throught their provided e-mail bug reports.

In fact this thread is sponsored by Ubisoft in an information gathering attempt to pinpoint the problem.

So then, where is the real email address ?? I mean, I think I'm wasting my time just signing up in this forum just to address the issues.

Like someone else said, Rainbow Six Vegas had similar problems they said for that game a patch was promised or something, but NOTHING so far.

Wow Ubi, you're really doing a great job at listening to consumers !

~~~~

lewdvig ~ You're the second person to insult me. Don't start a flame war.

~~~

Oh, and by the way, this was my second Ubi game I've actually bought.
The first one was one of the Splinter Cell series-- maybe the original.
Point being now this will be my last purchase from them seeing as how they've revealed their true intentions -- SCREWING THE CONSUMERS IN A MASSIVE WAY.

Idai_Tousou
11-17-2007, 09:04 PM
Running on 2.0 FW and I've had it freeze once for me. The only other thing that I can say is that it has HORRID frame rate lag. I've seen, in spots that don't have a lot going on, how it can really flow, and I must say I'm impressed by that, but otherwise the system seems almost too bogged down and can't take it. I'm wondering if something's wrong here that the game was made on 1.93 and now 2.0 is having the wrong effects on the game... That's about all I can say to that.

I wanna state something for the record: I don't have ANY issues with ANY first party or Sony-only company made games; someone want to tell me who's not keeping up with the times? Your profit is NOT just regulated on the 360. I will admit that there's a lot more of it with the 360 right now, but do you REALLY want to risk ruining partnerships and that with customers that have supported your titles previously and on other systems? I really, truly doubt you do.

These bugged issues should have been noticed a long time ago, but here again comes the book to smack me in the face that developers just don't test their product on the PS3 or give it the work they should. I'm deeply heartbroken at this. Is it enough to make me buy a 360? Hell no; Halo's not worth my cash or even worth bothering with, but that's aside the point.

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune is showing to be better than Assassin's Creed at this point for PS3 users, and I SERIOUSLY doubted that. With these bugs, glitches and frame rate issues in the game, though, it's all backed-up and worth me crying about it.

I want my game fixed. I don't pay you for ****. End point, close case. Thanks for fixing this in advance.

Specs:
PS3 60GB
FW 2.0
Has Folding @Home on the system
Downloaded themes: none
Downloaded pictures: Some, but many from befoer 2.0's release.
Connected Controllers: Only ever 1, since I don't need two to play the game.
Running on standard S-Video cables; I don't and HD display.
Never have I seen my system need to strain itself so hard on any other game.

Haze is coming. People won't buy it if they've seen this **** come up and you won't fix it, PS3 exclusive or not. Bear that in mind.

Mark52007
11-17-2007, 09:04 PM
Fricken thing is freezing like crazy on me. I hate this game.

krudolph
11-17-2007, 09:08 PM
I'm running firmware 2.00 as well. I've only ever encountered the lock-up issue while fleeing from the guards after an assassination. Four times in Jerusalem (killed the fat merchant prince), twice in Damascus (killed the slaver). Four of those times it was while I was diving for cover in one of the roof-top gardens, once while I was jumping down into the assassin's bureau, and once while climbing a building (all with line of sight broken). Haven't seen the white screen issue yet thankfully.

Argascend
11-17-2007, 09:08 PM
v.2.0 firmware. Freezing is random and sporadic. No freezing for the first eight hours or so, but some freezing at random moments from then on.

Last time it froze, it froze while saving and now I have to restarted the game. Wish they could patch an option to skip the tutorial and cutscenes.

EggPlanted
11-17-2007, 09:17 PM
Speaking of first party games not giving problems.

I will have the balls to say in this site that I PRAISE INSOMNIAC GAMES for Ratchet and Clank Future with no problems at all for me.

I know, I know. Ubi and Insomniac used different engines but Insomniac's quality control seems steller.

Nero_Vash
11-17-2007, 09:31 PM
2.00 I have had the game freze on me about 3 times but that started about halfway through the game

Kaihamu
11-17-2007, 09:31 PM
I just made this account just so I could let you guys know.. I also expierenced problems with the game with constant freezes and such so I returned the game and got another one. I've played thru about 3 sessions each 2hrs long and have had no freezes. Maybe only some games have the freeze? Hopefully this helps.

Fastr77
11-17-2007, 09:39 PM
In ubi's defence.. i've played at least 10.. 15? games by them, all on xbox or 360, and no problems ever.

even with that tho, if this isn't patched.. then i'll probably never buy another game from them, and I haven't even personally had any problems.

nitorex
11-17-2007, 09:53 PM
I am running the 60gig PS3 with firmware 2.0. The game has frozen so many times that I have stopped counting. It freezes both during loading and in game. I have not had this problem with any other game.

I strongly encourage that anyone with the problem send an email to Ubisoft and ask for a refund.

Perhaps if we all band together, we can force them to fix the problem.

xmsrx
11-17-2007, 10:00 PM
it froze atleast 3 times on me. The game also was a disappointment I was very excited about this game before it was released. If they want people to buy their next realeses like Haze they should release a patch within this year or else they will loose many consumers.

bunnylebowski
11-17-2007, 10:16 PM
That comment about Insomniac is really funny. Ratchet & Clank has froze on a black screen on me 3 times since I updated to PS3 firmware 2.00 but it never crashed before I updated.

Assassin's creed hasn't crashed on me yet but I'm only on the 3rd mission. I've noticed several frame glitches though. I'm running HDMI to a Sharp Aquos at 1080i.

bunnylebowski
11-17-2007, 10:18 PM
By the way, just as a point of reference, I used to have an Xbox 360, and Oblivion would crash every couple of hours on me. Bethesda released a patch that fixed that problem within one month. That's the standard Ubisoft that you need to live up to, we need a patch here.

AxisE2007
11-17-2007, 10:41 PM
i own a ps3 60 gb ver fw 2.0 and game freezes every time i play........

DorianD
11-17-2007, 10:43 PM
My ps3 is up to date and has Firmware 2.0 I have 20Gb version of the Ps3. The game overall runs pretty good but the game has frozen several occasions now. It happens when the loading screen comes up and while in game play. It would be well appreciated if Ubisoft could bring a patch for the game.

fulando
11-17-2007, 10:46 PM
Having the Same Issue when on the PS3 Version 2.00. Freezing while changing memory locations.

DeathProphet
11-17-2007, 10:49 PM
To the Ubisoft manager, I would like to just post my feelings on this entire situation.

First of all, let me say that while some people on these boards are being overly harsh, it is because the hype they had for this title. I have to tell you, that I personally LOVE this game, as flawed as it is. I haven't been this excited to play a game since Devil May Cry 3.

I think you guys did a fantastic job with the control layout, character interaction, missions, story, and overall design of this project. Your hard work does shine. But please, if there is any way, fix these problems so I can have, in my eyes, a perfect game. Thank you so much for your effort and hard work. I apologise on the behalf of my fellow gamers that didn't respond in a more constructive manner.

squall747306634
11-17-2007, 10:55 PM
It freezes on me once in a while. But I'm not that worried about it. The thing that I don't like is the lines going through the picture. Some sort of screen tear I think thats what they call it. And it happen pretty often too. Is their anyway to avoid this? And is everyone getting this? Is it my game? Should I exchange it for another? Damn maybe I should of just got the 360 version. I just got a 60gb PS3 so I wanted something to play.

Unrelated note to Idai_Tousou if Halo is the only game you think 360 has. Then you must have crappy taste in games. The 360 has plenty to offer. Mass Effect 11-20-07 cant wait.

Wind91
11-17-2007, 11:22 PM
2.00 - mines frozen for the first time, i was in damascus doing investigations for mission 1.

stix489
11-17-2007, 11:24 PM
"Update: Ubisoft is aware of the issues at hand and are working on a possible fix. If you want your voice to be heard, head over to Ubisoft's forums and tell them exactly what problems you've experienced. This will - hopefully - let them whip something up all the faster."

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/2164.html

EggPlanted
11-17-2007, 11:38 PM
No offense intended but I thought this was a Ubi forum. Are they giving us the run-around ?? Seems like it.

I'm not signing up again in another forum to do the same ****. Give us a break ! Having us try and sign into another one proves and seals the fact that Ubi's really working hard on dodging the urgent issues again rather than making an attempt into rectifying them.

That quote I really don't believe.

And by the way, I was referred to THIS SITE for consumers experiencing problems with AC a day ago from another site I visit frequently already !

stix489
11-17-2007, 11:41 PM
I just thought it would be a bit of good news that Ubisoft has "heard" of our complaints, and are supposedly working on a fix.

I really don't care if you do/don't go on any other forum...that wasn't the point of the post!

EggPlanted
11-17-2007, 11:45 PM
Don't misunderstand, my anger is not towards you or anyone else in the forum, hence the no offense disclaimer.

Anger is aimed at Ubi for a faulty product.

Kostchtchie_
11-17-2007, 11:46 PM
lmao the link they give is back to this forum

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

EggPlanted
11-17-2007, 11:56 PM
Like I said before, there was another member who brought up the similar problems that originally appeared in Rainbow Six: Vegas and still has them even though a patch was promised or said to be made for download. There was no news of the patch so far according to the member. So they're either being lazy or just don't care.

And in AC, to have a similar issues happen again, man. WTF !?

So Ubi has struck out twice in my book until they actually realize they have to upload a bug-free patch for AC for free download on both 360 and PS3. Let's hope they don't just leave it somewhere and forget it entirely.

And if we have to pay for the patch, forget it, I'm returning the damn game. Sure, that won't make a dent on them but I'll feel a hell of a lot better !

Redstorm74
11-18-2007, 12:05 AM
Suffice it to say I will not be preordering Haze now. I will wait till some actual players get their hands on it and play it. The lack of quality control on this game is really bad, even though I do really LIKE this game and want to play it. Apparently this is not the first time either.

That comment about them not seeing any of these issues before they released it is complete BS too. Like the dude is gonna come out and say 'Yah we saw those problems, didn't care though. Suck it PS3 owners.' Typical PR spin.

Just fix it, soon Ubi!

hitmon
11-18-2007, 12:17 AM
Yeah, any interest I had with Haze has disappeared. I didn't even know that Rainbow Six had issues that were not addressed before reading this thread. I'm glad I didn't buy it.

The name "Ubisoft" is now synonymous with "We don't care for quality." Minor glitches like clipping I understand. But to release a game that freezes and suffers from bad performance (framerate related) is ridiculous.

EggPlanted
11-18-2007, 12:32 AM
Hitman ~ The member posted a link to the thread in his reply so I'll find it and bring it here.

stearic
11-18-2007, 12:33 AM
I'm on the 2.0 firmware, with the 40gig ps3. I've only expierenced the total system freeze and having to reset my ps3 and not the partial freeze like some have had. Pretty sure it's not my ps3 screwing up though, as i have no problems with anything other then AC.

EggPlanted
11-18-2007, 12:35 AM
To Hitman and others ~



Originally posted by EggPlanted:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beren-:

I wish to know how are we the users / gamers protected against faulty software, that can damage the system? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

What about Rainbow 6 Vegas?, Ubisoft made the same exact post as this one and guess what? We are still waiting for a patch http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif
I hope that this is not another LIE http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sleepzzz.gif


I guess I have to stop playing and delete my AC Game Data before it could possibly harm my hard drive or console. Hmm...

Seriously ?? RB6V had similar issues ?? So this wasn't the first time. That's surprising. I'm not a FPS gamer so I didn't know about that.
I think I lost a lot of respect for Ubi now. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes look Here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/8971060175) RB6 Vegas forum and supposely a patch for the game and we are still waiting LOL.Is the same history ... a thread (well there are 3 threads) and NO patch!!!!! Ubisoft this is bad, for us i know that the company don't give a cent for us players lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

jonavoly
11-18-2007, 12:41 AM
Ubi, could you please release info on how much % of the ps3 buyers are having this problem so that people like me will know wheather or not to buy the game? No 'faulty' numbers please...

IU know theres not going to be a patch so I would like to know what my chances are of a decent game...

In the meantime I'm over to the strangelhold forums... at least they had the guts to release a demo that proved their game worked... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

melvinsmily
11-18-2007, 12:51 AM
Greetings fellas...

i have solutions for you

reciently i have posted this on gamespot forum, but it seems as though people com here to ubi forum more, so i will repost my recent post and update right away

~~~


Attention youngsters!!!!

Do not be alarmed! I HAVE FOUND SOLUTIONS

Yes the game indeed freezes. I have done research. they tell you that you have to log out of PSN, and surely that would fix everything. That does not work just to let you know.

Call me crazy, but I even though that this freezing because that it could be part of the game, if you think about it. the whole game is based on memory recovery right?, maybe there are things you need to do outside the "matrix" you get what i'm saying here? anyway that was just a thought, so i did do that. and i stole a pen from the doctor, lol. perhaps that did nothing. But then i alsodid the following!!!!

I REALIZED THAT MY MACHINE IS QUIETE WARM! (not warmer than usually by the way)(everybody knows that when somethings starts to freeze up its due to overheating correct? yes indeed thats true somewhat) funny thing is that this game does not freeze during gameplay, its either you are alone somwehre, or you are in the pause (start) menu, or you are laoding, or your exiting. if you think about it, it could be hard drive issue, this is why....

When you first start up the game, there is a screen stating, this game autosaves at certain points or areas (something in that sort) so everytime the game attemps to save, it lags, due to what? most likely the overeheating one of those cell processors (they all have different tasks) or hard drive malfunctions... now then.... this is what i beliveve fixed my problem

SOLUTION:

I found two medium sizes fans, (one from my computer case, other from an old roken ps2) and I took a 12v AC DC adapter and I constructed a little cooling system. I put one fan on the back of the system where it gets hot, and i put the other fan on the right side of the system where there are vents and also gets quiete hot. i just used some regular electric tape to mount, just for now, if it shall not freeze again , i will make a permanent setup, They have an intercooler for the ps3, but im not certain how well it work, and how well it ventelates. My fans just make the air blow out quicker, and believe me it was blowing out lava hot air!!! i guess this game is just that intense, i dont blame the ps3 for overworking, getting sore (after running much weaker games), , you know what i mean?

anyway, by doing so, i played the game for 3 hours after this installment, i tried everything that usually freezes it, going into menu, pausing, loading, exiting everything that usally made my system freeze. before this installmentmine froze about 5 times within a about 15-20 hours of total time play, after the installment, ZERO. i will continue to play, and see the results, if it still freezes, i will post emmediatly, i dont want this to be the final say that it fixes it. but i am having my fingers crossed, i would rather try to cool my system then deal with disk issues, or firmware issues (bugs and such).

Good luck you all, if you will attemped to do something similar,
~~~

Now then folks, this is what i have to say to you all... sure perhaps the game freezes because of the game... or firmware.... but i came to a conclusion that the our console is experiencing something else. it is actually trying to play a decent game where it has to work hard and render out really good stuff.

in other words, it is YOUR system that is at fault here. now i'm not saying this is definite, but a high possibility. i give it 90% that this is the system malfunctioning.

that cooler setup of mine that i created treated me was fine for a day, and i didn't experiences any freezes, i played with it about 3 hours, and nothing happened, nothing bad that is. then i went to the store and bought myself an intercooler, the ps3 one you know? this one here. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...on%2b3%2bintercooler (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16879213011&Tpk=playstation%2b3%2bintercooler)
at strores they are cheap, only 35, on newegg even cheaper.

this puppy is magnificent, it relocates the power switch to the front and has a knob for your fan speed, anywho it blows out all the hot boiling air out real nice , and i been playing assassins creed for 8 hours nonstop, just to see what would happen, now i have been doing everything that usually makes it freeze, and yet it doesn't, this may be the problem for you all as well (overheating), i also have fw2.0 and a hard drive that i put in that is 160,

i will most immediately repost if i get another freeze, just to let you know of my progress, i believe that this is an overheat issue, but hey, make your own decisions.

cheers

your's always,
smily

cannondave29
11-18-2007, 12:51 AM
This is unbelievable! i was so psyched when i preordered the game and waited for a long time and after waiting and paying 77 dollars (including taxes) i got an unfinished product. and yet no one gave an official response in which Ubisoft are fully aware of the problem and are working on a solution.lesson to be learned: wait at least a month after the game was released and make sure all bugs and glitches etc.. were fixed(especialy when ubisoft is involved lol). anyway Ubisoft please fix this problem i keep having to restart levels because it freezes
thanks,

Thumper1980
11-18-2007, 12:55 AM
You'd think that the reviewers would've mentioned something.


Seems the problems that plagued it not so long ago have stuck their ugly heads up.

And all you guys were laughing at us Aussies for not having it on the same day as the rest of the world.

lol, jokes on you.

nitorex
11-18-2007, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by jonavoly:
Ubi, could you please release info on how much % of the ps3 buyers are having this problem so that people like me will know wheather or not to buy the game? No 'faulty' numbers please...

IU know theres not going to be a patch so I would like to know what my chances are of a decent game...

In the meantime I'm over to the strangelhold forums... at least they had the guts to release a demo that proved their game worked... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

For what its worth, there are three other people in my apartment complex who have purchased this game for the PS3. All three of them, in addition to myself, are having freezing problems with the game. We are not sharing the same game disc, just so you know.

I know that is far from any type of official number but in my experience the problem is widespread. It is a wonderfully fun game but I would suggest waiting until Ubisoft gets the problems sorted out.

cannondave29
11-18-2007, 12:59 AM
haha i just saw an AC comercial for the ps3 on tv and i was thinking wouldn't be funny if it froze?! lol.

stix489
11-18-2007, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by melvinsmily:
Greetings fellas...

i have solutions for you

reciently i have posted this on gamespot forum, but it seems as though people com here to ubi forum more, so i will repost my recent post and update right away

~~~


Attention youngsters!!!!

Do not be alarmed! I HAVE FOUND SOLUTIONS

Yes the game indeed freezes. I have done research. they tell you that you have to log out of PSN, and surely that would fix everything. That does not work just to let you know.

Call me crazy, but I even though that this freezing because that it could be part of the game, if you think about it. the whole game is based on memory recovery right?, maybe there are things you need to do outside the "matrix" you get what i'm saying here? anyway that was just a thought, so i did do that. and i stole a pen from the doctor, lol. perhaps that did nothing. But then i alsodid the following!!!!

I REALIZED THAT MY MACHINE IS QUIETE WARM! (not warmer than usually by the way)(everybody knows that when somethings starts to freeze up its due to overheating correct? yes indeed thats true somewhat) funny thing is that this game does not freeze during gameplay, its either you are alone somwehre, or you are in the pause (start) menu, or you are laoding, or your exiting. if you think about it, it could be hard drive issue, this is why....

When you first start up the game, there is a screen stating, this game autosaves at certain points or areas (something in that sort) so everytime the game attemps to save, it lags, due to what? most likely the overeheating one of those cell processors (they all have different tasks) or hard drive malfunctions... now then.... this is what i beliveve fixed my problem

SOLUTION:

I found two medium sizes fans, (one from my computer case, other from an old roken ps2) and I took a 12v AC DC adapter and I constructed a little cooling system. I put one fan on the back of the system where it gets hot, and i put the other fan on the right side of the system where there are vents and also gets quiete hot. i just used some regular electric tape to mount, just for now, if it shall not freeze again , i will make a permanent setup, They have an intercooler for the ps3, but im not certain how well it work, and how well it ventelates. My fans just make the air blow out quicker, and believe me it was blowing out lava hot air!!! i guess this game is just that intense, i dont blame the ps3 for overworking, getting sore (after running much weaker games), , you know what i mean?

anyway, by doing so, i played the game for 3 hours after this installment, i tried everything that usually freezes it, going into menu, pausing, loading, exiting everything that usally made my system freeze. before this installmentmine froze about 5 times within a about 15-20 hours of total time play, after the installment, ZERO. i will continue to play, and see the results, if it still freezes, i will post emmediatly, i dont want this to be the final say that it fixes it. but i am having my fingers crossed, i would rather try to cool my system then deal with disk issues, or firmware issues (bugs and such).

Good luck you all, if you will attemped to do something similar,
~~~

Now then folks, this is what i have to say to you all... sure perhaps the game freezes because of the game... or firmware.... but i came to a conclusion that the our console is experiencing something else. it is actually trying to play a decent game where it has to work hard and render out really good stuff.

in other words, it is YOUR system that is at fault here. now i'm not saying this is definite, but a high possibility. i give it 90% that this is the system malfunctioning.

that cooler setup of mine that i created treated me was fine for a day, and i didn't experiences any freezes, i played with it about 3 hours, and nothing happened, nothing bad that is. then i went to the store and bought myself an intercooler, the ps3 one you know? this one here. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...on%2b3%2bintercooler (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16879213011&Tpk=playstation%2b3%2bintercooler)
at strores they are cheap, only 35, on newegg even cheaper.

this puppy is magnificent, it relocates the power switch to the front and has a knob for your fan speed, anywho it blows out all the hot boiling air out real nice , and i been playing assassins creed for 8 hours nonstop, just to see what would happen, now i have been doing everything that usually makes it freeze, and yet it doesn't, this may be the problem for you all as well (overheating), i also have fw2.0 and a hard drive that i put in that is 160,

i will most immediately repost if i get another freeze, just to let you know of my progress, i believe that this is an overheat issue, but hey, make your own decisions.

cheers

your's always,
smily

WOW...Awesome first post dude!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

I sure hope that's what's causing all of these problems!!

Thanks for the info though!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

WiDDY_VOZ
11-18-2007, 01:13 AM
40GB, FW2.0. No crashes during the first session (4-5 hours), but right after resuming the game I get the "white screen of death" in the following "Fast Forward" section now. Reproducible, so it's rendering the game *unplayable*, as I can't continue with the game.

Great job. 8-/

Mamune
11-18-2007, 01:32 AM
I've been getting the freezing.

I have the limited edition AC along with a 2.00 firmware PS3.

It has frozen on my three times.

It has frozen twice where I can still ONLY move the camera and music goes on but all the other buttons don't work.

I have also had a similar problem 3 times with another guy where when altair is in the fog running around waiting for Damascus, Acre,the kingdom, Altairs home, or Jerusalem to load it never does. I left it for half an hour it didn't load, and I was running around in the animus fog like **** loading area for ever.

Fool me once Ubisoft with rainbow 6 shame on you. Fool me twice with Assasins creed shame on me.

I'm never buying another ubisoft game ever again. Unless Ubisoft promises to fix this issue promptly and immediately. Inexcusable and you guys should be ashamed of yourselves. I know you mods are reading it to you and YOU too should be ashamed for not helping the consumer. It should not be, "well we'll fix it if we can and we're looking into it." It should be, "We will fix it and if we cant We will give a refund or a free ubisoft game to each person who bought assasins creed."

jonavoly
11-18-2007, 01:47 AM
Originally posted by melvinsmily:
Greetings fellas...

i have solutions for you

reciently i have posted this on gamespot forum, but it seems as though people com here to ubi forum more, so i will repost my recent post and update right away

~~~


Attention youngsters!!!!

Do not be alarmed! I HAVE FOUND SOLUTIONS

Yes the game indeed freezes. I have done research. they tell you that you have to log out of PSN, and surely that would fix everything. That does not work just to let you know.

Call me crazy, but I even though that this freezing because that it could be part of the game, if you think about it. the whole game is based on memory recovery right?, maybe there are things you need to do outside the "matrix" you get what i'm saying here? anyway that was just a thought, so i did do that. and i stole a pen from the doctor, lol. perhaps that did nothing. But then i alsodid the following!!!!

I REALIZED THAT MY MACHINE IS QUIETE WARM! (not warmer than usually by the way)(everybody knows that when somethings starts to freeze up its due to overheating correct? yes indeed thats true somewhat) funny thing is that this game does not freeze during gameplay, its either you are alone somwehre, or you are in the pause (start) menu, or you are laoding, or your exiting. if you think about it, it could be hard drive issue, this is why....

When you first start up the game, there is a screen stating, this game autosaves at certain points or areas (something in that sort) so everytime the game attemps to save, it lags, due to what? most likely the overeheating one of those cell processors (they all have different tasks) or hard drive malfunctions... now then.... this is what i beliveve fixed my problem

SOLUTION:

I found two medium sizes fans, (one from my computer case, other from an old roken ps2) and I took a 12v AC DC adapter and I constructed a little cooling system. I put one fan on the back of the system where it gets hot, and i put the other fan on the right side of the system where there are vents and also gets quiete hot. i just used some regular electric tape to mount, just for now, if it shall not freeze again , i will make a permanent setup, They have an intercooler for the ps3, but im not certain how well it work, and how well it ventelates. My fans just make the air blow out quicker, and believe me it was blowing out lava hot air!!! i guess this game is just that intense, i dont blame the ps3 for overworking, getting sore (after running much weaker games), , you know what i mean?

anyway, by doing so, i played the game for 3 hours after this installment, i tried everything that usually freezes it, going into menu, pausing, loading, exiting everything that usally made my system freeze. before this installmentmine froze about 5 times within a about 15-20 hours of total time play, after the installment, ZERO. i will continue to play, and see the results, if it still freezes, i will post emmediatly, i dont want this to be the final say that it fixes it. but i am having my fingers crossed, i would rather try to cool my system then deal with disk issues, or firmware issues (bugs and such).

Good luck you all, if you will attemped to do something similar,
~~~

Now then folks, this is what i have to say to you all... sure perhaps the game freezes because of the game... or firmware.... but i came to a conclusion that the our console is experiencing something else. it is actually trying to play a decent game where it has to work hard and render out really good stuff.

in other words, it is YOUR system that is at fault here. now i'm not saying this is definite, but a high possibility. i give it 90% that this is the system malfunctioning.

that cooler setup of mine that i created treated me was fine for a day, and i didn't experiences any freezes, i played with it about 3 hours, and nothing happened, nothing bad that is. then i went to the store and bought myself an intercooler, the ps3 one you know? this one here. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...on%2b3%2bintercooler (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16879213011&Tpk=playstation%2b3%2bintercooler)
at strores they are cheap, only 35, on newegg even cheaper.

this puppy is magnificent, it relocates the power switch to the front and has a knob for your fan speed, anywho it blows out all the hot boiling air out real nice , and i been playing assassins creed for 8 hours nonstop, just to see what would happen, now i have been doing everything that usually makes it freeze, and yet it doesn't, this may be the problem for you all as well (overheating), i also have fw2.0 and a hard drive that i put in that is 160,

i will most immediately repost if i get another freeze, just to let you know of my progress, i believe that this is an overheat issue, but hey, make your own decisions.

cheers

your's always,
smily Been reading up reviews on this.. looks like the best one out there... have to get it now soon...

lets see:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>cooler $30
<LI>memory card adapter $15
<LI>enough money to get a ton of games $180
<LI>lots of cables to run it on HD on pc monitor $100
<LI>total: $325 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/list]

tmug
11-18-2007, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by Idai_Tousou:

I wanna state something for the record: I don't have ANY issues with ANY first party or Sony-only company made games; someone want to tell me who's not keeping up with the times? Your profit is NOT just regulated on the 360. I will admit that there's a lot more of it with the 360 right now, but do you REALLY want to risk ruining partnerships and that with customers that have supported your titles previously and on other systems? I really, truly doubt you do.

These bugged issues should have been noticed a long time ago, but here again comes the book to smack me in the face that developers just don't test their product on the PS3 or give it the work they should. I'm deeply heartbroken at this. Is it enough to make me buy a 360? Hell no; Halo's not worth my cash or even worth bothering with, but that's aside the point.



This is so true. It pisses me off that the softwarehouses can't do their job properly and make the games equal on both platforms. The only ones that have done it so far are COD4 and DIRT I think. I don't give a flying f if you have to assign more resources to the other platform, or how many million copies less it's projected sales are, if you charge the consumer the same amount for both versions, it should be of the same standard!

lostassassin123
11-18-2007, 02:29 AM
Originally posted by melvinsmily:
SOLUTION:

I found two medium sizes fans, (one from my computer case, other from an old roken ps2) and I took a 12v AC DC adapter and I constructed a little cooling system. I put one fan on the back of the system where it gets hot, and i put the other fan on the right side of the system where there are vents and also gets quiete hot. i just used some regular electric tape to mount, just for now, if it shall not freeze again , i will make a permanent setup, They have an intercooler for the ps3, but im not certain how well it work, and how well it ventelates. My fans just make the air blow out quicker, and believe me it was blowing out lava hot air!!! i guess this game is just that intense, i dont blame the ps3 for overworking, getting sore (after running much weaker games), , you know what i mean?

anyway, by doing so, i played the game for 3 hours after this installment, i tried everything that usually freezes it, going into menu, pausing, loading, exiting everything that usally made my system freeze. before this installmentmine froze about 5 times within a about 15-20 hours of total time play, after the installment, ZERO. i will continue to play, and see the results, if it still freezes, i will post emmediatly, i dont want this to be the final say that it fixes it. but i am having my fingers crossed, i would rather try to cool my system then deal with disk issues, or firmware issues (bugs and such).

Good luck you all, if you will attemped to do something similar
Yeah, maybe everyone meets FI because they placed their console near the wall or something.

KillahG360
11-18-2007, 03:08 AM
So many posts. Well, something still bothers me. I talked to a friend of mine today and asked him if he has had problems with his 360 version of the game. He has been playing for hours and hasn't noticed a thing.

From what I've heard, most people experiencing problems here have a PS3. So has anyone really experienced problems with the 360 and if so what are they?

I have stopped playing the game because I get really annoyed by all the freezes (I stopped counting). I'm planning to go to the store tommorow to see if I can get a 360 copy in exchange for this one, but still I'm having doubts.

Please post if you have had problems on the 360 as well or if you know of people who have had problems and what these are.

There might be or there migh not be a patch released soon, but my concern is, if there is going to be a patch, how long will it take? I can't walk into the store after 3 months and ask them for refund because the game freezes.

housemuzic
11-18-2007, 03:08 AM
I have had the game crash on me 6 times so far. However mine seems to differ from everyone else.

I have had one occasion where Altire freezes but I can still move the camera.

The other five times my console totally locks up. You can hear the Blu-ray drive attempting to read the disc but failing to do so. The first time this happened the message came up on screen telling me to reinsert the disc as if I had removed it. However attempting to eject the disc does nothing and I am forced to power off/on. Has anyone else had this issue? Need to know so I can take the disc back to get a replacement. The disc appears to be free from any form of scratches etc.

jambosm6
11-18-2007, 03:13 AM
I am using 1.94. The game dies on the way to Damascus. This message appears "There is a problem with the disk you are using. Maybe it is damaged or dirty".

It has happened 4 times on this exact same part.

ElKvass
11-18-2007, 03:21 AM
It has happened to me maby 4 times, but all I have to do is restart the game. It's caused by the 2.0 firmware version, but sony will be releasing version 2.01 soon which is a small update to fix stability issues with the 2.0 version.

And Jambosm, your disc might be damaged or something like the error message says, or maby it's just a bad copy.

jambosm6
11-18-2007, 03:26 AM
When the message came up the first time, I took the disc out, cleaned it with a microfibre cloth, inserted it and then the game was frozen, although I could move the camera.

I'm thinking I may just return the game to play.com and get my money back.

jmso
11-18-2007, 03:46 AM
Sometimes a game is well programmed and tested and a future firmware change makes it run into trouble... For instance, Capcom's "Puzzle World" for PSP started crashing after a Sony's firmware update for PSP: "http://blogs.capcomusa.com/blogs/news.php/2007/06/11/psp_firmware_3_5_aamp_capcom_puzzle_worl"

Maybe this is the case for Assassin's Creed, maybe not. In my opinion this amazing game is currently unplayable. I feel very dissapointed whatever the root cause is: Assassin's Creed is not a cheap game. PS3 is not a cheap platform. Console games should not be as buggy as PC games. Consoles are unmodifiable/propietary systems and the games/firmwares should be tested enough in order to avoid this problems. This is a shame!!!
The game is awesome anyway... No complains on that...
UBI: How do you plan to fix this?
SONY: Is it firmware's fault?

BOTH: Give us a clear answer on how much time we'll have to wait to play with our 65€ game.
Maybe is better to get a refund now (not difficult just by printing this thread) and get a new copy once you finish developing this game.

Beren-
11-18-2007, 03:53 AM
Originally posted by EggPlanted:
To Hitman and others ~


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by EggPlanted:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beren-:

I wish to know how are we the users / gamers protected against faulty software, that can damage the system? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

What about Rainbow 6 Vegas?, Ubisoft made the same exact post as this one and guess what? We are still waiting for a patch http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif
I hope that this is not another LIE http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sleepzzz.gif


I guess I have to stop playing and delete my AC Game Data before it could possibly harm my hard drive or console. Hmm...

Seriously ?? RB6V had similar issues ?? So this wasn't the first time. That's surprising. I'm not a FPS gamer so I didn't know about that.
I think I lost a lot of respect for Ubi now. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes look Here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/8971060175) RB6 Vegas forum and supposely a patch for the game and we are still waiting LOL.Is the same history ... a thread (well there are 3 threads) and NO patch!!!!! Ubisoft this is bad, for us i know that the company don't give a cent for us players lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Lmao to the system overheating , when the PS3 overheats a red led appears ( i never saw it), and i have an air conditioner on my room, on 16C all the time (now that is cold), and what about the people of Canada with freezing issues? and why this is the only game freezing over and over like the other Ubisoft games?... its Ubisoft read the RB6 forums having the same issue and still waiting for a patch http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

Lmao at the firmware too here on this thread are people with the 1.94 version too, and even Xbox360 players (do they have the Sony firmware too?)LOL Ubisoft try to make things up in a better way http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
Thx http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

vangogh1721
11-18-2007, 03:55 AM
Some posts suggest it maybe a overheat issue. That is not the case considering most of the freezes I have occur within the first 20 minutes of gameplay. I usually have to force a restart and continue with no issues...but, once restarted graphical errors appear. Bottomline...the game is the error.

jambosm6
11-18-2007, 03:57 AM
I have not had any issues with any other games. I can sit there for hours playing Oblivion with no freezing. But Assassins Creed freezes within 2 minutes of starting. It cannot be an overheating issue.

jonavoly
11-18-2007, 04:12 AM
could we have some information please? I would at least like someone saying whats going on every 2 pages...

I want to know what the conditions where that you teested the game under... If you wont give us that or if it turns out it doesn't make any difference, screw u... but if you tell us how you tested the game we might be leanient if it works...

Bluetoast
11-18-2007, 04:29 AM
I have an 80 gig PS3 with firmware ver. 2.0 I actually kind of expected this(well half expected this) after infrequent freezes with GRAW2 online. The only other game I have ever had a problem with. When I contacted Ubisoft they were unable/unwilling to help and just repeatedly directed me to a post that had nothing to do with my problem. GRAW2 is still playable as it freezes VERY little. Assassin's Creed however is far from playable with the amount of freezing ridiculous. I am shocked that such a problem was not noticed/fixed before the game was launched.

I payed Good money for a game that CAN NOT BE PLAYED!!(any chance I can get a refund?) Now I can't afford to buy another game until my next Disability check (but I have all the time in the world to look at the Assassin's Creed case and fume)

Beren-
11-18-2007, 04:33 AM
Originally posted by jonavoly:
could we have some information please? I would at least like someone saying whats going on every 2 pages...

I want to know what the conditions where that you teested the game under... If you wont give us that or if it turns out it doesn't make any difference, screw u... but if you tell us how you tested the game we might be leanient if it works...
Are you an Ubisoft member or staff? because all that you wrote here and all that you are writing on the thread is not what we was asked to answer?
And i will ask again do you have a PS3 or the game on PS3?
Because you talk like you are in charge here, or are you working on the patch? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

And no we are no TESTERS we are gamers , again we wasted $$$ to test a game !!!!!!!! you gave us the proof!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

jonavoly
11-18-2007, 04:39 AM
nice working sherlock http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif[/sarcasm]

I am talking to ubi... as for you, what are you still doing here?

*starts getting nightmares*

never mind i dont want to know http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I am asking how ubi tested the game, if someone would then bother to test it under the same conditions we would be able to tell if it helps or else if ubi jusat doesn't care...

Meskyanichi
11-18-2007, 04:56 AM
I'm Using FW v2.0.
The issues i often get are:

- "The Area Change Loading Screen" (where you can walk around while it loads, and gives a tip), I was waiting in there for 5 minutes and then just rebooted the PS3 using the PS button, so it wasn't really a 'freeze' but it just stopped loading i think.

- "Today" I was running from the guards, and ran into the sort of 'memory barrier'(3rd district), the zone you cannot yet enter until you've unlocked it, and then just character just froze, I could turn my screen around, music kept playing, but the START/SELECT buttons didn't work, only the PS button worked, again, forcing me to reboot the PS3.

- "Multiple times" ive had these kind of freezing
issues occur, both of the above happened a few times now in the past 2-3 days I've gotten the game.

jambosm6
11-18-2007, 05:51 AM
I have just asked for my money back from play. Going to send it back and get a full refund. What a waste. the game was good, but it has been let down fatally by these errors. I'll just wait until the problems have been fixed before thinking about buying it again.

neurotoxin55
11-18-2007, 05:52 AM
I think to be honest overheating isn`t the cause of these lockups, however i`m not denying that they can occur when a system gets hot. The reason why i do not believe heat is the issue here is that Assassin`s Creed has frozen on my PS3 10 Minutes after i Turned the system on, 10 minutes will not overheat this system (unless you have a towel on it). I played Call of duty 4 for 6 hours the other day (Yes my life is full of wonder), It Did not freeze once.

Aside from the freezing in game which MAYBE caused by Buggy Firmware at sony`s end, there are lots of other Technical Glitches that have just been overlooked by Ubisoft, And they should have been noticed. I`m not a experienced Beta Tester, but I NOTICED the problems, why didn`t they?

360`s problems may not even be related to the game in regards to the freezing, it maybe general hardware failing, usually the precursor to a larger problem with the 360. I really hope not guys (touch wood). But the game still has problems with bugs.

In my opinion, The PS3 Problems are to do with Buggy Firmware + Ubisoft Buggy Programming, Not enough Beta Testing and not enough Development Resources, Resulting in a game that just isn`t finished in my eyes.

...360 Problems, Although clearly this was the lead platform in development, much more resources allocated and a little better Quality Control, the game is still buggy but 360 owners get a much better experience.

Ubisoft "Game runs GREAT on PS3"....... Well i call your bluff, it doesn`t.

Beren-
11-18-2007, 05:52 AM
Originally posted by EggPlanted:
To Hitman and others ~


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by EggPlanted:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beren-:

I wish to know how are we the users / gamers protected against faulty software, that can damage the system? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

What about Rainbow 6 Vegas?, Ubisoft made the same exact post as this one and guess what? We are still waiting for a patch http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif
I hope that this is not another LIE http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sleepzzz.gif


I guess I have to stop playing and delete my AC Game Data before it could possibly harm my hard drive or console. Hmm...

Seriously ?? RB6V had similar issues ?? So this wasn't the first time. That's surprising. I'm not a FPS gamer so I didn't know about that.
I think I lost a lot of respect for Ubi now. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes look Here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/8971060175) RB6 Vegas forum and supposely a patch for the game and we are still waiting LOL.Is the same history ... a thread (well there are 3 threads) and NO patch!!!!! Ubisoft this is bad, for us i know that the company don't give a cent for us players lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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