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Sgt_Starbuck
11-24-2007, 09:19 PM
as I recall American subs could not recharge batteries at speeds above Ahead 2/3. Am I remembering this right or am I remembering another sim? Can anybody confirm this in real life or in SH 1?

The ever questioning,
Sarge

Vlaba
11-24-2007, 09:30 PM
I'll fire it up to be exact if you want, but there was a limit. You also could select an engine to either charge batteries or provide power to the screws.

tambor198
11-25-2007, 12:04 AM
Going from memory here. The S-Class, Porpoise, Salmon/Sargo, and T-Class had to be at 2/3rds or less in order to charge batteries. The Gato and Balao and Tench could recharge using Standard speed or lower.

Vlaba
11-25-2007, 01:16 AM
The only really poor thing about SH1 for me was the bridge view not changing when rotating. Then again I'm partial to the old games. Poor graphics, but great gameplay. It must have been the narrow graphical view that forced gameplay to shine or die some how. Not that I dislike the current offerings and vastly improved reality, it's that the old stuff is still great fun!

aanker
11-25-2007, 01:17 PM
Tambor is right about the max speeds to charge the batteries in SH1.

SH1 - SHCE was pretty much the end of the line for that type of game engine / graphics and the game developers had moved on to what we have today.

It's too bad really. I would have been very happy with an updated version of SHCE. It is almost historically perfect with the exception of too much shipping... and how about that battery life!!! Much more realistic than SH4. As a consultant and having been there ol' Bud sure knew what he was talking about.

Art

odjig292
11-25-2007, 01:22 PM
I spent many happy hours with SH1 chasing marus across the Pacific. It was a good game. The graphics have improved but the fun and excitement of finding a convoy of three carriers is still there.

dgrayson
11-25-2007, 03:33 PM
I have SH1 CE on three computers in the house. On two of them I run it in a dos box. In the other, an old laptop, with Windows 98. I really love that game and still play it occasionally. Over the years I must have played twenty '41 to '45 careers. They each took about six months to complete. I especilaly enjoyed the fireworks over the Golden Gate Bridge as you came in at the end of the war.

I'm now near the end of my first ''41 to '45 in SHIV. They dropped the first big one on Hiroshima yesterday. I have a week of war left and I find out what happens at the end in this game. If you know, please don't tell me. I am trying to finish this career just as the 1.4 patch comes out.

Sgt_Starbuck
11-25-2007, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by dgrayson:


I'm now near the end of my first ''41 to '45 in SHIV. They dropped the first big one on Hiroshima yesterday. If you know, please don't tell me. I am trying to finish this career just as the 1.4 patch comes out.

They surrender and we win. Hope I didn't spoil it for you. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I played SH 1 for hundreds of hours (I have no life) when I was in the store and saw the SH 1 expansion pack I about flipped. I was kind of hoping that this add-on would be like it but then they seem to have covered most of the same area in the initial release. Thanks for refreshing my memory. I THOUGHT you had to be under ahead standard but between AOD and SH 3 I wasn't sure. I haven't done any other sub sims. I believe AOD was the first Win 95 game. buggy as hell. played it and bought DOS version also.

Sarge

Vlaba
11-25-2007, 06:21 PM
I never did understand the torpedo firing technique in AOD. It just seemed to be there's a ship, guess and fire. Then SH came out and I never looked back because you had tools to set up solutions. Maybe I did't work at it enough but there you go. Still have both loaded on an old time gamer I put together last summer. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

tambor198
11-25-2007, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by aanker:
Tambor is right about the max speeds to charge the batteries in SH1.

Art



Thank's for the backup, Mr. Aanker. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

jmanwell
11-25-2007, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by Vlaba:
Not that I dislike the current offerings and vastly improved reality, it's that the old stuff is still great fun!

It definitely is great fun! I liked SH1 so much I put it on a tablet PC that my brother-in-law is letting me use and the one he is using. There still is a lot of playability left in it. The nice thing with the tablet is I can take it to work and if there is some down time, I plug in one of our 20" monitors to the tablet and play SH1 on "the big screen." (and get paid for it.)

BTOG46
11-25-2007, 08:13 PM
I loved SH1 so much that I kept an old Pc to run it on, I use it as a monitor stand so it's easy to boot up SH1 and go hunting, there's something about the old game that keeps on bringing me back to it.
Then again, I might just be a sucker for old Sub Sims, I still have a couple of Amigas to play Silent Service II on as well. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

shadow_858
11-26-2007, 08:14 AM
SH1................fond memories indeed. I suspect though that if I actually looked at it now, it would look pretty old and sad.

dgrayson
11-26-2007, 08:58 AM
Originally posted by shadow_858:
SH1................fond memories indeed. I suspect though that if I actually looked at it now, it would look pretty old and sad.

The only thing that makes me sad is not having this.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z107/davegrayson/To%20Forum/Calendar.jpg

This TDC looks pretty good to me.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z107/davegrayson/To%20Forum/TDC.jpg

And the radar?
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z107/davegrayson/To%20Forum/Radar.jpg

Not too shabby for 1995, is it?

TalladegaHack
11-26-2007, 09:03 AM
They could have just updated the graphics of SHI to those of SHIV and called it SHIV. Most everyone would be pleased then!

tambor198
11-26-2007, 09:04 AM
I was a member of the PTC up until not to long ago, we made monthly patrols using SH1. It was and still is a great game. Too bad the Devs of SHIV didn't take the time to try it. And your right Mr, Grayson, things in SH1 for a 1995 game were so well down.

fred8615
11-26-2007, 09:23 AM
I loved SH1 too. My only problem was I never, ever survived until the end of the war. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

lane2512
11-26-2007, 01:13 PM
Loved SH1....hooked me on subsims...

Special note: Enemy active sonar.....I still have all that pinging in my ears! The other the famous salom cheat....if you waited for the enemy convoys to get to the edge of your map (and followed them) they would stop dead in the water. You could then go to the surface, flank speed, at 256 compression, and do ski saloms thru the convoys until you ran out of deck gun ammo. It was great fun! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

tambor198
11-26-2007, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by lane2512:
Loved SH1....hooked me on subsims...

Special note: Enemy active sonar.....I still have all that pinging in my ears! The other the famous salom cheat....if you waited for the enemy convoys to get to the edge of your map (and followed them) they would stop dead in the water. You could then go to the surface, flank speed, at 256 compression, and do ski saloms thru the convoys until you ran out of deck gun ammo. It was great fun! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif



Well the truth finally comes out. Wait till Janac hears about this one, lane. Your tonnage is going to go down. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


BTW, glad to have you back on the forum, buddy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

lane2512
11-26-2007, 01:23 PM
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tambor198
11-26-2007, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by lane2512:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif



http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif I think this would be more like it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

lane2512
11-26-2007, 01:40 PM
It was a gas Mr.Tambor! Great fun after enduring PING PING PING for three of four hours! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

tambor198
11-26-2007, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by lane2512:
It was a gas Mr.Tambor! Great fun after enduring PING PING PING for three of four hours! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



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Vlaba
11-26-2007, 03:22 PM
You will note the radar set up in the screen shot. The left SJ set can select PPI or A-scope, while the SD is there as the air search set. It was right then?!

wh1skea
11-27-2007, 12:41 PM
Nice thing about SH1 was that because it didnt have awesome 3D graphics, they HAD to make it a blast to play. SH1 is more of a blast that 500 pounds of Torpex!

As for PTC, I to am a participant, and managed to get a CVL on this last cycle. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

odjig292
11-27-2007, 02:32 PM
Tanbor said
if you waited for the enemy convoys to get to the edge of your map (and followed them) they would stop dead in the water. You could then go to the surface, flank speed, at 256 compression, and do ski saloms thru the convoys until you ran out of deck gun ammo. It was great fun!

Now you tell me! I've got to get a Dosbox or something and fire us the game just to try it

Vlaba
12-01-2007, 12:37 AM
Well, this was on Subsim.com. Did this install tonight and it worked brilliantly. You just need the SH1 disc and I copied it to a C:\temp file to bypass D drive DOS drivers. http://www.subsowespac.org/sh_xp/silent_hunterxp.shtml
Complicated but worth it.

Vlaba