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Milandrin
02-07-2006, 07:13 AM
What is your favourite hero so far?
After 3-4 days playing the beta, mine are:

Nur, the wielder of fire (Academy): Get Luck (Resistance), Defence (Protection) and Expert Destructive Magic... then some magic resistance items if possible (Boots of Interference and/or Platemail of Stability) and Phoenix Feather Cape. Equip your all your units with spell protection artefacts. Get crazy with Armagedon. The fact that Academy heroes dont have access to Light Magic (Fire Protection) keeps this hero from being absolutely brilliant. Marder, the Impregnable (Inferno) is probably the better candidate for this style of play actually (his specialy is spell resistance and he gets access to Fire Protection), but even with inferno's fire damage enhansing building I find Nur's Armagedons (and fire balls early on) much more devastating.

Metlirn, the forest guardian (Sylvan): Dont ask me why... actually in all my Sylvan games so far I havent even once used the Avenger skill, still I stubbornly continue to choose Metlirn every time i play Sylvan.

Eruina, the witch salvo (Dungeon): There is nothing like finishing a full elemental chain with the free shot from your matrons following the frost bolt then you trashed over your enemy's head. Enough said.

disasater2
02-07-2006, 08:04 AM
For some reason I find it very hard to remember the names without the little potraits. I'm just one of those that learns by looking I guess.

Anyways, I don't recall the stats of the heros too well, but as far as favorite hero look in beta I'll say it's a tie between Academy and Inferno.

I just love the elephant, but I also love the gigantic Inferno hero just stomping around.

red_12345
02-07-2006, 11:04 AM
Look (I mean the apperance of the hero): Academy

Best 'stats': Sufi (Academy --- Feather mage skill)

Paladin_Musashi
02-07-2006, 12:30 PM
Markal, Heir of Undeath. All undead neutral stacks join your army (For free) automatically.

Hands down best hero there is.

Although the Inferno's campaign hero Sovereign is pretty cool looking (He looks like Sauron from the LotR movies).

Val-Gaav
02-07-2006, 12:44 PM
Well .. I already can tell u that armageddon and heir of undead will probably be banned on MP

Akkem the inferno hero with speciality in movement 5% + 1% per level will also be banned.

Somebody should tell Nival to change those uber heroes. I mean already in h3 we we have lots of banned heroes : Solmyr, Jeddite (and every hero starting with 4 level spell), Gunnar, Kyrre (mobility is the key to win)

Diplomacy is also banned .. actually u cannot accept any creatures joing you.

So I ask why Nival didn't learn from the players exprience over years of playing h3 and reapets the same mistakes ?

Paladin_Musashi
02-07-2006, 12:54 PM
I don't give a f***. I'm not interested in multiplayer and I hope like heck they don't try to balance and design it to be good for multiplayer because then it's less fun in singleplayer, which is what this game should be about.

Farax85
02-07-2006, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by Paladin_Musashi:
Markal, Heir of Undeath. All undead neutral stacks join your army (For free) automatically.


How to play him? He is not one of the heroes you can start...

Paladin_Musashi
02-07-2006, 01:10 PM
Just open his xdb file and change where it says <scenariohero>true</scenariohero> to false.

Or download my mod file http://nerv-hq.linuxside.org:70/~paladin/GameMechanics.rar (http://nerv-hq.linuxside.org:70/%7Epaladin/GameMechanics.rar) it sets all the campaign heroes usable and re-enables the ranger ultimate skill.

Val-Gaav
02-07-2006, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by Paladin_Musashi:
I don't give a f***. I'm not interested in multiplayer and I hope like heck they don't try to balance and design it to be good for multiplayer because then it's less fun in singleplayer, which is what this game should be about.

Firtstly you are not nice.

Secondly I do not see a reason for the game balancing to spoil the singleplayer (special heroes for AB appeared only in campaign, not on any random, or made map) So there was no problem with Gelu on MP as u just could not choose him.

Thirdly I know a lot of people who would not agree with the statement that this game is all about SP ... Most of them either play online or hotseat.

Paladin_Musashi
02-07-2006, 03:03 PM
There are always far more people who play singleplayer than who ever play online. You just don't see them on the forums because they don't get on the net much.

Things like not being able to play Gelu on custom games is just what I'm talking about. That's taking something away from singleplayer for the sake of multiplayer "balance". There's no need to take characters like that out unless you're worrying over multiplayer.

Val-Gaav
02-07-2006, 03:28 PM
Well and those far more people never play hot seat , only single player all the time ?

And u do have some proofs that majority of player plays only SP ???

I think those people would also like to have a fair fight when fighting hot seat with a friend, even if they will do so only once a month.

And I also do not see a pleasure in passing the campaign with hero like Gelu ... Overpowered hero, while comp plays the normal ones.
It's really just too easy.

Furthermore a good game appels to both "great singleplayer" and " good multiplayer" ...
And once again I do not see a reason to adress H5 only for SP ...

archenemy1984
02-07-2006, 04:11 PM
HAVEZ is the best for academy.

He has gremlin mastery,
and comes with ALL war machines.
He is really nasty early game, taking our slow 8astards and getting the upperhand

Tetsumonkai
02-11-2006, 12:37 PM
Academy hero: Dgum
He starts with basic sorcery and basic articifier.
This grants me the option of trying to get Absolute Wizardy.

Hagen9xx3
02-12-2006, 01:14 AM
Can`t remember his name now (need a picture to remind me, just like disaster2 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif), but I found the Inferno hero with the ability of faster gating to be pretty nasty, especially in late game. Althought I`m not a big fan of Inferno at all ...

Gambit_1234
02-12-2006, 03:30 AM
My favorite is Onir (from Heven), he's giving nice boost for Archers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Fael569
02-12-2006, 06:47 AM
The Heroes in the Beta are very unbalanced. I think about doing a little analyse about them this week.