why not change the name aswel

[vselka_tom]

from the looks of the e3 footage of gameplay and the videos of trailers etc. and the different music, and the roaming around JBA hq
why not change the name of the game, rather than splinter cell, lets call it:
hit cell
or...
splinter man

cos the footage, which does look good, dont get mi wrong, is just hitman with same fisher avec shaven head

[vselka_tom]

from the looks of the e3 footage of gameplay and the videos of trailers etc. and the different music, and the roaming around JBA hq
why not change the name of the game, rather than splinter cell, lets call it:
hit cell
or...
splinter man

cos the footage, which does look good, dont get mi wrong, is just hitman with same fisher avec shaven head

[Boobonys]

No. It's good as it is.

[Shishkarob]

Its still splinter cell anyway, and its not the much different. There isnt one game out there thats like splinter cell. Splinter man????

[capteenix]

if this is not Splinter cell, Why Main character is Sam Fisher? Why there is SC-googles? Why there is Coop Splinter cell?

"if this is NOT Splinter Cell, Then what is it?"

[MKCC14]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by capteenix:
if this is not Splinter cell, Why Main character is Sam Fisher? Why there is SC-googles? Why there is Coop Splinter cell?

"if this is NOT Splinter Cell, Then what is it?" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah, and why does he have the sc20k? and the sc pistol? and the rest of his gadgets?

[Knot3D]

To know the latest definition of Hitman you must play Hitman Bloodmoney due on May 25/26.

Same holds for SC DA.

Don't jump to conclusions. False assumptions they are.

Heck, maybe the next guy will ask why the game's name isn't Cell of War because Kratos has a bald head too...

[abonbon]

I guess vselka_tom was more refering to a change in the gameplay than just to the bald head, when he says Spinter Cell has become Hitman. But anyways, the way I understood it, it was just a joke. Although I don't know for sure ^^.

[vselka_tom]

thats rite, it was meant in humour, joke, sarcasm so well done to abonbon

but it dosnt detract from the fact that it is straying from what splinter cell is all about, stealth.

maybe there is more yet to be seen, but im slowly moving away from this series, to my own horror, as it has to be my favourite game of all time, or tied with halo etc

but its changing and im not sure its in a good direction, my ideal idea for splintercell and ubi wud be for them to re-release sc1 etc maxd out for the xbox 360 using up every bit of graphics, because sc1 and its storyline is ace
PT was ok
CT was ACE! but splintercell for me is about perfection in how you play the game, i just think that from what ive seen DA is kind of not bothered bout the perfection that goes into stealth, which is what i thort splintercell was about

[robo_turtle]

its still stealth, they wont change that.

[sonkev1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by robo_turtle:
its still stealth, they wont change that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


NO it is not, in the videos its middle of the daY and sam is running back and forth with the AI backs turned like they dont hear him,

i havent seen one picture at night yet...

[sonkev1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by vselka_tom:
thats rite, it was meant in humour, joke, sarcasm so well done to abonbon

but it dosnt detract from the fact that it is straying from what splinter cell is all about, stealth.

maybe there is more yet to be seen, but im slowly moving away from this series, to my own horror, as it has to be my favourite game of all time, or tied with halo etc

but its changing and im not sure its in a good direction, my ideal idea for splintercell and ubi wud be for them to re-release sc1 etc maxd out for the xbox 360 using up every bit of graphics, because sc1 and its storyline is ace
PT was ok
CT was ACE! but splintercell for me is about perfection in how you play the game, i just think that from what ive seen DA is kind of not bothered bout the perfection that goes into stealth, which is what i thort splintercell was about </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I AGREE with you 100%

This game is taking a terrible turn

Probally because they are running out of idea's, but sometimes you dont need something new all the time, just something refreshed and better looking with a tad bit added

[cooldude6681]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sonkev1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by robo_turtle:
its still stealth, they wont change that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


NO it is not, in the videos its middle of the daY and sam is running back and forth with the AI backs turned like they dont hear him,

i havent seen one picture at night yet... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You do know that there won't be any daytime missions on current-gen systems, right? That's something they've said in previous interviews.

The game will still be stealth - just a different type of stealth. And yes, I do realize that the time of day doesn't narrate the stealthiness of a level, but it seems that you don't...

[Chinese_Bookey]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">stealth
n.

1. The act of moving, proceeding, or acting in a covert way. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So, no, it's not straying from anything. Ooh, a mission in daytime. NO! IT'S NOT SPLINTER CELL! Ooh, no goggles, and only with goggles you can be truly stealth (and Solid Snake is a poser son of a *****). NO! IT'S NOT SPLINTER CELL! Ooh, but you're still Sam Fisher, and you're "acting in a covert way" all around the world just like before. NO! IT'S NOT SPLINTER CE... no, wait! **** YES! IT IS SPLINTER CELL! **** YES!

Do you see where I'm getting here? Do you get it? Have I opened your blind eyes to the truth? Do you copy?

[TarTarz]

eh? so ps2 and xbox have diferent single player levels then the PC/360? never heard anything like that before. I have my doubts, any official release you can point me to?

[Chinese_Bookey]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by vselka_tom:
but it dosnt detract from the fact that it is straying from what splinter cell is all about, stealth. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">stealth
n.

1. The act of moving, proceeding, or acting in a covert way. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think you have a very misconceived image of what stealth really is, Tom.

Cruise.

[cooldude6681]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TarTarz:
eh? so ps2 and xbox have diferent single player levels then the PC/360? never heard anything like that before. I have my doubts, any official release you can point me to? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Can't find it right now, but I remember in an interview they said that current gen versions wouldn't get daytime missions because they just can't handle all of the lighting effects in combination with the other uber-fantastic graphics.

[vselka_tom]

ive just seen a video from the e3 floor "E3 2K6 Show Floor Gameplay HD" and i saw the words on the screen, "can you put a bullet in his brain", the video of the gun during loading was very impressive, but the words dont really give out a stealthy splintercell-esque feeling, maybe its just me

[abonbon]

After watching most E3 videos, I saw two things that kind of bugged me.

1. I find the fact that you can still run up to guards (even two of them) and kill them with your knife (or punch them by that matter) really annoying. In the Antartica mission, the guy playing runs towards those two guards and get them both out, even though the second guard emptied a whole charger (or it at least seemed like that much) on Sam. And Sam, in the great super-hero he is, survives. Please UBI make Sam die more easily (that can't happen, even in easy mode)

2. The gun Sam has in the african mission also bothered me. Why doesn't Sam have to hold his breath anymore to snipe well? Ok, you'll tell me it's because JBA weapons aren't as high-tech as the the NSA's. But then how come they have thermic vision within their scope (which by the way is stupid. Since it gives Sam his visions anyways, why not have stayed with the glasses?).

Ok, don't worry, all in all, I did find the demos quite great. And in the interviews, the UBI guys did say it was still stealth all the way, just that you now have more alternatives.
So we do have to be optimistic that this game is really gonna kick *** and hopefully be the best SC game yet and the best 2006 game.

Good luck Ubisoft!

[Hum1L1aT1on]

Splinter man hhahahaha they might aswell name it "man with splinter in his cell phone"

[vselka_tom]

i agree totally wiv what is said above, i think its just a matter of time now for ubi to prove people wrong by makin an ace game but fair play to them,

as u said above wiv the scope, it really did look like something out of hitman, you have to admit, lol

[Vth_F_Smith_]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by vselka_tom:
ive just seen a video from the e3 floor "E3 2K6 Show Floor Gameplay HD" and i saw the words on the screen, "can you put a bullet in his brain", the video of the gun during loading was very impressive, but the words dont really give out a stealthy splintercell-esque feeling, maybe its just me </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't want to be rude, but Sam is on a JBA Mission in Kinshasa so what do you expect? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

I doubt the JBA would want him to deliver a dozen roses or a birthday cake to Hisham! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[I.S.F-Dixxhead]

Well, but they could have like still made it normally. Briefing or something... That "can you put a bullet in his head" kind of sounds like a lightgunshooter or some other Arcade game (Burnout had alot of those sentences for example)... LoL. No really, that didn't sound like Splinter Cell at all, but hey, the gameplay I saw so far rocked http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

[vselka_tom]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by vselka_tom:
ive just seen a video from the e3 floor "E3 2K6 Show Floor Gameplay HD" and i saw the words on the screen, "can you put a bullet in his brain", the video of the gun during loading was very impressive, but the words dont really give out a stealthy splintercell-esque feeling, maybe its just me </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't want to be rude, but Sam is on a JBA Mission in Kinshasa so what do you expect? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

I doubt the JBA would want him to deliver a dozen roses or a birthday cake to Hisham! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

maybe so, but "bullet in brain" dunt sound very splintercell-esque to me

[knife_X]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by vselka_tom:maybe so, but "bullet in brain" dunt sound very splintercell-esque to me </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

look this is me careing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1241.gif

[vselka_tom]

how is it spam?

[scorpio_11]

I dont think Splinter cell DA is done, thay are still adding stuff in the game, and win sam ran up to the two guards and killed them i think it was cuse thay wanted to go throw the game fast so thay can show u more of the level and haw it looks with out taking alot of time killing them stealthy one by one thta takes up alot of time and thay only hade like 5min win it was on TV to show us.

SORRY FOR MY SPELLING

[vselka_tom]

nice to see some real contributions from scorpio_11, good points raised, also

whats the dealeo with the new function/action icons on the screen??!!, smells a little metal gear to me, tho im not a fan

[scorpio_11]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">whats the dealeo with the new function/action icons on the screen??!!, smells a little metal gear to me, tho im not a fan </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

WhAT...

[vselka_tom]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by scorpio_11:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">whats the dealeo with the new function/action icons on the screen??!!, smells a little metal gear to me, tho im not a fan </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

WhAT... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

wel on the videos on gametrailers for the demo and the run thru, u see icons on the screen for actions e.g. move body, grab character etc. they just look a little bit like something outa metal gear

[HorTyS]

i didn't really like those either, but they're trying to take the HUD out, so there's no interaction window that appears now, just that icon in the lower center of the screen. the thermal vision in the reflex site REALLY bugs me. i HATE that addition and i refuse to use it, this is a tom clancy game afterall, and that is NOT realistic, not even on a prototype level i don't think.

anyways, this is still a stealth game, they've just changed the way you think about stealth. on the africa mission for example, stealth is more about staying inconspicuous and not drawing attention to yourself. i think(though i'm not totally sure) but i think not everyone will attack you on site, unless you do something to provoke it. who knows, all i know is i'm buying the game, and from what i've seen, theres enough about it i'll like to play it for months, if not years from it's release.

one thing that is interesting to think about though, is if/ what is the montreal splinter cell team working on? - yeah.

[scorpio_11]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by vselka_tom:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by scorpio_11:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">whats the dealeo with the new function/action icons on the screen??!!, smells a little metal gear to me, tho im not a fan </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

WhAT... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

wel on the videos on gametrailers for the demo and the run thru, u see icons on the screen for actions e.g. move body, grab character etc. they just look a little bit like something outa metal gear </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What thay hade that in MGS games i dont remaber that, there was only ZZz win the guy was sleeping thats it
(dont remaber the old ons for PS1)

[tehsober]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by abonbon:
After watching most E3 videos, I saw two things that kind of bugged me.

1. I find the fact that you can still run up to guards (even two of them) and kill them with your knife (or punch them by that matter) really annoying. In the Antartica mission, the guy playing runs towards those two guards and get them both out, even though the second guard emptied a whole charger (or it at least seemed like that much) on Sam. And Sam, in the great super-hero he is, survives. Please UBI make Sam die more easily (that can't happen, even in easy mode) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Don't play on easy. That simple.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">2. The gun Sam has in the african mission also bothered me. Why doesn't Sam have to hold his breath anymore to snipe well? Ok, you'll tell me it's because JBA weapons aren't as high-tech as the the NSA's. But then how come they have thermic vision within their scope (which by the way is stupid. Since it gives Sam his visions anyways, why not have stayed with the glasses?). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Looked like the F2000 with some desert camo spray on it I thought. Explains the NSA tech. And I thought there was breating in the zoomed in mode, except there's no 'breath meter' anymore, just sound and hope you can hold it long enough.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">whats the dealeo with the new function/action icons on the screen??!!, smells a little metal gear to me, tho im not a fan </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Never played MG, but yeah, the new icon-based thing smells a bit funny. I'd rather have it text for nostalgia's sake, but after playing RvS and the like, I've gotten used to it.


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">i didn't really like those either, but they're trying to take the HUD out, so there's no interaction window that appears now, just that icon in the lower center of the screen. the thermal vision in the reflex site REALLY bugs me. i HATE that addition and i refuse to use it, this is a tom clancy game afterall, and that is NOT realistic, not even on a prototype level i don't think. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
So? The googles aren't either. IIRC, there were countless discussions on whether Sam's goggles could be possible, and I think the general consensus was that no, you can't fit thermal, nv and whatever else into such a small thing in this day and age. Not even prototype level. So, based on your logic, stop using them, because the goggles are impossible.

[Weeoo86]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by vselka_tom:
ive just seen a video from the e3 floor "E3 2K6 Show Floor Gameplay HD" and i saw the words on the screen, "can you put a bullet in his brain", the video of the gun during loading was very impressive, but the words dont really give out a stealthy splintercell-esque feeling, maybe its just me </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't want to be rude, but Sam is on a JBA Mission in Kinshasa so what do you expect? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

I doubt the JBA would want him to deliver a dozen roses or a birthday cake to Hisham! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think it looks better than Hitman! although stealing people's clothes would be cool lol, but yes