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Mowtin
01-12-2007, 09:38 PM
I installed R6V on my bros PC. He has x1900 XT and same cpu as me but his is an LCD. Mexico looked MUCH better than it did on my pc. Also the motion blur was more visible. My CRT is not doing the graphics in this game justice. Other games like BF2142 are less effected by the weakness of my CRT. I think R6V graphics and effects rely more on effects than most games.

If the game looks bad on your system maybe it's your monitor.

Also, I changed the in game brightness setting all the way down to 3. It's a little dark but things look much better.

Also, I was not seeing any motion blur before! It wasn't until I compared it to my bros PC that I noticed this. Just point at a wall near you and strafe in any direction. The wall should be noticeably blurry as you move.

I hade to set VSYNC ON to get motion blur to work but it still doesn't look as good as my bros'.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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lmimmfn
01-12-2007, 11:41 PM
LCD's look so much better for most games and using XP in general anyway http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif, although dark areas are usually a little more dificult to see with an LCD<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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P0rnindapants
01-13-2007, 02:55 AM
As i was doing the research for my upgrades for vegas i looked for monitor information and everything i read said that perfect flat crt's were the better gaming choice.
Could we get a few folks opionion on this with the best things to look for when looking for a monitor?

Tacamo
01-13-2007, 04:37 AM
CRT's are better for the fact they actually display true blacks and the color is better. Of course LCD monitors have come a long way since. Contrast and response time are two important things to look for with LCD's. The higher the response time, the more likely you'll have problems with ghosting. Pay attention to the native resolution too, because that can have a big effect on how some games look with a LCD.

Hopefully SED and FED technology matures quickly in the next few years and replaces CRT, plasma and LCD. Sounds pretty impressive since it's plasma/LCD thin, yet each pixel is a nano-scale CRT.

absolute-
01-13-2007, 06:18 AM
CRT's are still much better for gaming. The CRT responce times can not be beat by LCD. It just wont happen. You will have a much more crisp clear picture free of all refesh lines with a good CRT.

WOLF-ATO
01-13-2007, 08:33 AM
i'm using this to play RSV
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tunagoblin
01-13-2007, 11:13 AM
yeah i'm all the way to CRT still.
I still cant get used to any LCD for playing FPS games.
I love my CRT and no way i'm gonna switch it to LCD in near future unless it blew up or something.
I have Mitsubishi 22" CRT it goes up to 130Hz depends on resolution. (I usually sets it to 1600x1200 @ 100Hzon most games...not vegas..)
Can't beat the sharpness and crispness of CRT.

KI.Trooper
01-13-2007, 12:19 PM
I use a Acer 19 inch LCD 6ms ( Acer monitors rock! ). LCD's are down to 2ms now too. If you have blurring, ghosting or whatever you just didnt do your homework and have a crappy LCD. but anyway for anyone interested:

CRT vs. LCD
http://www.viewsonic.com/monitoruniversity/lcdvcrt.htm

lmimmfn
01-13-2007, 12:30 PM
its down to personal preference, i use my PC a lot for surfing, work and playing games, so i much prefer an LCD also it takes up far less room, however i used to enjoy playing games at 1600 x 1200 on my old CRT

If youre thinking of an LCD get the one with the highest resolution and lowest refresh time( 2ms ) that you can afford, same applies for CRT's<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Mowtin
01-16-2007, 06:46 PM
Ok, I lowered my monitor's color temperature to 5000K ( the lowest value) this is also known as the white point.

Now the game looks MUCH better.

If you feel the game looks ugly and "washed out" try searching or info on monitor calibration.

I take back what I said before about this game bing ugly. I'm at the DAM and I've never seen broken glass look so good.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Sound Blaster Live! (it works)
22" CRT

Tek-fu
01-16-2007, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by Mowtin:
Ok, I lowered my monitor's color temperature to 5000K ( the lowest value) this is also known as the white point.

Now the game looks MUCH better.

If you feel the game looks ugly and "washed out" try searching or info on monitor calibration.

I take back what I said before about this game bing ugly. I'm at the DAM and I've never seen broken glass look so good.
Hmm, I can't seem to find out how to do this (after searching) on my Samsung 910MP LCD TV/Monitor. Maybe I'm just missing something.

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Mowtin
01-16-2007, 10:58 PM
A low color temperature is like sunset and a high color temperature is like bright daylight. I find this game looks much better with a low (sunset) temperature...especially mexico.

This has made a BIG difference for me so maybe it will help somone else.

Here is anX-bit lab article (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/lcd-guide_15.html)

A quote ...

"Color temperature is measured in Kelvins (K) and equals the temperature of the ideal black body radiating the same spectrum. There are three commonly used values. Printing and photography often involves 5500K temperature (this value was introduced by folks from Kodak under the name of ?daylight?. There is a joke that in the real world this value is the color temperature of midday sunlight near the offices of this company). For computer-processed images a color temperature 6500K is used (it corresponds to bright sunlight in a clear sky, while a slightly clouded sky has a color temperature of 6500-7000K). Sometimes, but quite rarely, the color temperature is set to 9300K giving out a slight bluish hue (an analog from nature ? it is the color temperature of a thin shadow on a bright day)."<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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2X1G OCZ Platinum
8800 GTS @ 620/950
Sound Blaster Live! (it works)
22" CRT

WOLF-ATO
01-17-2007, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by Mowtin:
A low color temperature is like sunset and a high color temperature is like bright daylight. I find this game looks much better with a low (sunset) temperature...especially mexico.

This has made a BIG difference for me so maybe it will help somone else.

Here is anX-bit lab article (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/lcd-guide_15.html)

A quote ...

"Color temperature is measured in Kelvins (K) and equals the temperature of the ideal black body radiating the same spectrum. There are three commonly used values. Printing and photography often involves 5500K temperature (this value was introduced by folks from Kodak under the name of ?daylight?. There is a joke that in the real world this value is the color temperature of midday sunlight near the offices of this company). For computer-processed images a color temperature 6500K is used (it corresponds to bright sunlight in a clear sky, while a slightly clouded sky has a color temperature of 6500-7000K). Sometimes, but quite rarely, the color temperature is set to 9300K giving out a slight bluish hue (an analog from nature ? it is the color temperature of a thin shadow on a bright day)."

you know color temperature,but concept are wrong!!
if you set the monitor in right color temperature,you did not need to change it to match the source enviromnet color temperature.

web image and moset video use 6500k for their standrd,i think game industrail are same.
if UBI dev using 6500k to make a game,all of texture and lighting in game should be a good match when you using 6500k.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Rhythmin
01-17-2007, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by Mowtin:
I installed R6V on my bros PC. He has x1900 XT and same cpu as me but his is an LCD. Mexico looked MUCH better than it did on my pc. Also the motion blur was more visible. My CRT is not doing the graphics in this game justice. Other games like BF2142 are less effected by the weakness of my CRT. I think R6V graphics and effects rely more on effects than most games.

If the game looks bad on your system maybe it's your monitor.

Also, I changed the in game brightness setting all the way down to 3. It's a little dark but things look much better.

Also, I was not seeing any motion blur before! It wasn't until I compared it to my bros PC that I noticed this. Just point at a wall near you and strafe in any direction. The wall should be noticeably blurry as you move.

I hade to set VSYNC ON to get motion blur to work but it still doesn't look as good as my bros'.

Ha!, that's interesting, i have gone back to a 17" CRT (sony trinitron A200, y o m 1999, lol) ive been playing R6Vegas on a 17" viewsonic LCD VP730 on DVI connection, i got it june 2006 and tbh, i personaly prefer the trinitron CRT.

dfmafia
01-17-2007, 06:22 PM
yeah im using a 22" Trinitron and it has been the best monitor ive used so far...

ive been looking at getting a wide screen LCD but havent found one that can meat or beat the 'Tron

WOLF-ATO
01-17-2007, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by dfmafia:
yeah im using a 22" Trinitron and it has been the best monitor ive used so far...

ive been looking at getting a wide screen LCD but havent found one that can meat or beat the 'Tron

there have LCD can kill CRT now,i got one
check this out http://www.atoyu.com/image/cg220b.jpg<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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http://www.hkrs.com/

scavenger67
01-17-2007, 08:06 PM
i still use a crt monitor and it is a 21" Hitachi Super Scan 813 which i have not seen any other crt or lcd compare to. my native res i run at on desk top or game is 1280x1024 @ 100hz and it has built in anti glare and is all so a flat crt .

i have a 2nd Hitachi but it is a 21" Super Scan Supreme 803 that i use on my server that host a Vegas coop server, well if it isn't crashed. since the last patch it seems to be crashing more then it has in the past.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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