What is it?

[bukowski113]

Theories?

[killerskippy]

A smoken peace of a claymore.

This is interesting please do tell!

Could it be a new set of orders / mission

A satellite has fallen from the sky.

[jssport]

It seems to a satchel charge covering


.. the real question is

"What does this all signify?"


the remaining maps yet to be released ?

[IHEAID OIFIF]

GRAW 3 HAS LANDED I TAKE IT!!!!!!

[IHEAID OIFIF]

DO I NOW WIN A FREE COPY.... AND A COUPLE FOR MY MATES???

[RomanArrow]

If this is an ARG, it better be more fun than the H3 VMC.

[MrBigRules2007]

Originally posted by RomanArrow:
If this is an ARG, it better be more fun than the H3 VMC.

Agreed...A ghost recon ARG would actually require us to USE OUR MINDS!!

[OUTFOXEM]

They named that flash movie "ubi_graw_onchnl.swf" if that's of any help to anyone.

In any case, it looks like a burning dossier of some sort to me.

Now that Rainbow Six Vegas 2 has been released, any big announcements, specifically about another Ghost Recon, wouldn't interfere with that game. I'm sure it's nothing big but at least the possibility now exists.

MACSAT is a type of military communications satellite, and this is apparently named after recovering one of those. Possibly a highly confidential satellite has malfunctioned and has fallen back to earth in enemy territory? Sounds like a job for the Ghosts. If that's an upcoming game, it already sounds a hell of a lot better than trying to prevent a Mexican civil war.

My ultimate guess would be some sort of promotion for Endwar. It's been rumored the Ghosts will play some sort of role in that game, along with Splinter Cell and Rainbow Six, so that's what I'm betting on.

[BS PALADIN]

Obviousily it's for a new Ghost Recon game. It only appears on the Ghost Recon page and it has its own new forum. So im thinking a new Ghost Recon with a dropping of the AW title.

So we have a burning dossier and references to a military satellite. Looks a like a more low key believable scenario. Thank god. No more stupid mexican rebels or ridiculous storylines.

[Forrester1975]

ahhh I get a warm and fuzzy feeling. Hope to learn more about this game fast. Would UBI consider building a proper tactical PC based shooter????? really???? I dunno. Sad but true I'm grown to be a Thomas, see first, then be happy. GRAW was a good game but support, extra maps, and well timed patches failed let alone the urge felt by UBI to please console kiddies more than the PC crowd.

[mb2410]

my heart feelings going crazy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

i hope for a new release of ghost recon... but please not GRAW ^^

i hope i hope i hope i hope i hope i hope i hope

=)

[hangtime8705]

Guys, was snooping around and I found this. http://www.astronautix.com/craft/macsat.htm

[BS PALADIN]

Nice find. Lets hope GR4 is based more in reality like this than stupid Mexican fiction.

[SergeantCarnage]

I'm with everyone else, no more Mexico.

I think I'm done with the AW bit. I like a new Ghost Recon that puts the emphasis back on the team and the player and not all the technology. I like the GRAW multiplayer, but not the single player. And I loved the previous Ghost Recons. The only problem is there is a thread in the GRAW forum that announces it the satellite wreckage, and not the other forums. Looks like Mexico 3.

At first I thought the smoking thing was a medical file, now after some thought. I could see it a being a peice of the fallen satellite. More importanly, something storing data. And the store could send the Ghosts on a recovery mission.

[xVxXanthorxVx]

it has to do something wit graw, remeber the short ending where he got blew up at the end and they just end the game like that there has to b more if he survied or not.

[spohl]

ist it Tom Clancy Air Combat ?

[ohmsie1972]

im bettin its part of the tom clancy endgame hype ... hmmmm dont really know

[S7R4F3]

Looks like recovered black box data to me... probably a teaser for the Clancy air combat game. There are a bunch of references to flight-speech kinda stuff.

Intriguing.

[xVxXanthorxVx]

when to the gr site, its a folder go here. http://www.ghostrecon.net/

[RawKryptonite]

Could have to do with EndWar.
Scott Mitchell is mentioned as being a General in the book. I think the Ghosts handle missions in the America's, with Scott commanding, while Ding commands Rainbow in Europe.

Could have to do with the TC Air Combat, with the air references, which would be nice to hear something about.

[edubya42]

I hope its not Mexican, but the voice over the transmission sounded like it.

[MrBigRules2007]

I think its an ARG for Tom Clancy's Air Combat game...

[RawKryptonite]

I hope so.
Saw mention of "Tom Clancy's: Firehawk" a year or so ago. I suspect that's going to be the official name of the Air Combat game when it's announced.

[bukowski113]

Looks like it's spreading... Check out the other Clancy Sites:

http://rainbowsixgame.us.ubi.com/

http://endwargame.us.ubi.com/

http://splintercell.us.ubi.com/

[killerskippy]

This is good marketing when and where can i buy it.

Im sold i want it and i want it NOW.

Come on lets have the inside story

[edubya42]

ghostrecon3.com now takes you right to the ghostrecon website. Looks like there will be a 3 afterall.

[jssport]

perhaps Mitchell will be communicating with air support or at least monitoring them, with 5 channels now and a clock running down on each, is this a radio that talks to the sat or part of the sat itself. Did you notice how some channels said "breach in progress" -vs- "repairing" ? Perhaps someone else has an uplink to or physical custody of the sat?

It looks like the info will be slowly leaked to help build the release of GR3/4.

[alexm105]

I did some research and put together a long post with the possible theories, backed with facts. Check it out here. (http://thebreakroom.org/socomcentral/showthread.php?t=197)

[Trick502]

i think it's for the Tom Clancey Aerial Combat game, but I could be wrong.

Especially since Ubi just bought the rights to everything wit the name Tom Clancy on it.

My hope/theory is that we'll get a new Aerial Combat game or an improved/updated Over-G with a story worthy of the Clancy namesake

[alexm105]

Originally posted by trick502:
i think it's for the Tom Clancey Aerial Combat game, but I could be wrong.
I believe so too. Look at my post right above yours. I wrote about it as "Theory 3."

[GODZILLA1]

This is funny....you people think it has something to do with GRAW, will it dosen't but it might have something to do with something else.........Like END WAR. If you want go to the end war homepage and you will see a link between that site and this strange videos.

[elementwind]

looks like a ado and vid data recording. if you look at it you can see dates on the side. made it GRAW 3 or END WAR, or R6. or a new project.

[GODZILLA1]

I agree with some others that it might be a prelude to Tom Clancy's Air Combat game because of the fact that its on all three sites and sounds and looks like it has something to do with air combat.

[CrazySunDog]

I dont jump to the conclusion that the macsat was shot down. There was also an AWACS in the vid, and other aircraft, who were called in for Close Air Support (maybe to help the ghosts), and I also believe I heard the pilot state there was artillery on a road; and in the video I'm sure i saw an anti air vehicle firing.

With the fact this viral is appearing on the GR site mainly, and they've opened another page here, my money's on a new GR being announced.

[Mr.Hanky2005]

Originally posted by GODZILLA1:
This is funny....you people think it has something to do with GRAW, will it dosen't but it might have something to do with something else.........Like END WAR. If you want go to the end war homepage and you will see a link between that site and this strange videos.

The problem with that is, if it had to do with EndWar, why would every Clancy site link you to the Ghost Recon page? And the Ghost Recon page has what appears to be the most essential piece of the "puzzle". Now all we have to do is solve this puzzle.

[CrazySunDog]

now that i've listened to it again, on the second vid you can watch, the first conversation is between the air support(Flight 275) and the awacs(apollo 6). He says he is Joker[bingo] fuel and she directs them to close air support (vector 090), and contact someone, callsign Thunder 21. she patches them through, and thunder 21 asks for a strike, and something about gps co-ords. Its fuzzy after that, but i can make out the wingman (flight 276) mention artillery on the north road up ahead.....



btw, if this was for endwar, they a minute late and a buck short.... they already had one of these to launch the endwar site; this is the beginning of a new site, most likely the next Ghost Recon!!

[GODZILLA1]

Originally posted by Mr.Hanky2005:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GODZILLA1:
This is funny....you people think it has something to do with GRAW, will it dosen't but it might have something to do with something else.........Like END WAR. If you want go to the end war homepage and you will see a link between that site and this strange videos.

The problem with that is, if it had to do with EndWar, why would every Clancy site link you to the Ghost Recon page? And the Ghost Recon page has what appears to be the most essential piece of the "puzzle". Now all we have to do is solve this puzzle. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I sad it wrong, sry for it, look at my second post.... That is what I know realize what it is

[CrazySunDog]

From what i can tell on the first vid, its an AWACs that does a midair refuel, disconnects, restarts its radar scan, and then spots bogeys...the bogeys are ID'd as surface to air.

I believe the wreckage is the AWACs, the fighters are close air support, and everything revolves around ground action. The MacSat is the medium for the viral campaign..

[xpyrosean30x]

There's way too many Air Force chatter for this to be a Ghost Recon game (or is it...) so I would have to guess this is a teaser for that new Air Combat game Ubisoft is coming out with (All that chatter reminds me of Ace Combat series)

[beonder13]

Well, it's looking like the lowest timer has about 22 hours left. I'll check again tomorrow night http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[ubermoob]

Looks like a Black Box from an aircraft.

Maybe it is about some sort of rescue operation to recover the crew ?

If Ubi is making any new games I hope they make a real Ghost Recon game.

[M TOPP]

Its gotta be the new flight sim one, Firehawk.....thats my guess anyhoo.

[DrDave41]

In the video pcs you see a radar plane we also see a fighter being refueled at which point you can hear the capt. of the fuel plane tell the fighter he's full as he disconnects from the fuel plane you can hear a missle warning then a strike. Another pilot reports it as an air to ground missle. I think a plane got shot down with sensitve data on board and its a recovery mission for what game I am not sure. As far as End War, it ties all the others together. GRAW and RAINBOW characters are in End War. I think all storyline in the Clancey games are going to be tied together. Thats why all game sites have differant pcs of the same puzzle.Those are my thoughts on this mystery.

[ERN456]

Airplane crah maybe we should check its black box which is actually orange for some reason.

[jssport]

The clocks showing the time to reapir or access keeps on counting down, there should be something new on this graphic about 11 - 12 Sat night.

It's a GR3 relayed viral

[Golin040]

I believe the most likely case is a new GRAW. As has been said all the other sites link to GRAW. I don't think an air combat game is likely due to the fact that it would be a gamble for Ubisoft business wise since it would be a departure from their successful franchises. On top of the fact that Ubi recently announced the development of an MMORPG based on the Tom Clancy brand. You don't want to gamble with a new franchise when you need capital to develop an MMORPG. The additional elements of air and artillery may just be new support options for the ghosts to utilize. But this is just speculation and we'll have to wait for further info as the clocks tick down.

[giz21388]

I'm gonna have to say that this is going to be a new GR, maybe a new GRAW or maybe a whole different game all together. However, the videos are in the GRAW colors of black and light blue. Also, GR is the final website in the line of the Clancy's that you get put to. If this had to do with Endwar it would have ended there. Another reason why this is for GR is because when the "black box"/"dossier" is on the screen, the video zooms in a few times and shows four diamonds on the map. This just goes further to prove a GR because they were the first to use the diamond system to mark where people are, and once again, they are baby blue like in the last two GRAWs and there are four of them, marking four different people I suspect, which also goes along with the two previous GRAWs.

[CrazySunDog]

yeah, i noticed the blue colour as well, good point about the diamonds....



it would be cool if this was the announcement for both Tom Clancy GhostRecon and AirCombat, and that they intertwine....

[Mr.Hanky2005]

I was reading a while back in Official Xbox Magazine that the AirCombat game had a lot of the same interface as GRAW. The HUD was almost identical. So, SungDog may be correct that the two games are intertwined.

Also, in about 5 hours, we will be getting a new video, and in 11 hours, the two videos we already have should be completely repaired.

[giz21388]

That's true, I remember reading that in OXM too. However I don't know how intertwined the games would end up being. If that is the case I'm going to have to assume that they won't intertwine to an extent that you need to have both of them to fully understand everything that happens in either story line.

On another note....The Mexican voices in the first video can once again suggest a new GRAW, but hopefully if there are Mexicans in the game they get killed off early and we get to fight against some real enemies that we have instead of our neighboring country.

[edubya42]

Check the add at the top of drudgereport, it has the Ghost recon emblem on it, the soldier with the pistol.

www.drudgereport.com (http://www.drudgereport.com)

might have to click the link a few times as the adds at the top are different every time almost, just keep refreshing till you see the smoke.

[Mr.Hanky2005]

Another thing that points me towards GRAW is that buk only linked to this forum from the GRAW forum. Also, it seems that there is much more audio/video today then there was yesterday. Looks like the file is being repaired.

[ohmsie1972]

Originally posted by GODZILLA1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mr.Hanky2005:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GODZILLA1:
This is funny....you people think it has something to do with GRAW, will it dosen't but it might have something to do with something else.........Like END WAR. If you want go to the end war homepage and you will see a link between that site and this strange videos.

The problem with that is, if it had to do with EndWar, why would every Clancy site link you to the Ghost Recon page? And the Ghost Recon page has what appears to be the most essential piece of the "puzzle". Now all we have to do is solve this puzzle. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I sad it wrong, sry for it, look at my second post.... That is what I know realize what it is </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Where is hannibal lecture wen ya need him

[SpecOps527]

Definitely a new GRAW/GR. The unique blueish teal color is present and there is a piece of wreckage on the sites for Splinter Cell, ENDWAR, and Rainbow Six. When you click on them they all lead to the Ghost Recon page and the data acquisition.

[ohmsie1972]

Black_Widow9
Ubi Forum Manager

Posted Mon March 03 2008 20:49 Hide Post
As of now there is no new graw in development

Got this info of a ghost recon 3 forum, notice how the point is made about no new graw, maybe a ghost recon is tho

[SG RiverDan]

My guess it the Tom Clancy fighter jet game. Wat too much air chatter for it to be a ground war/GR game. I hope it's a fighter SIM game.

[Raide]

Ahh you guys and gals sneaking around for tasty secrets. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I accept donations of cake and biscuits if anyone wants to know. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

[ohmsie1972]

Originally posted by RiverDan:
My guess it the Tom Clancy fighter jet game. Wat too much air chatter for it to be a ground war/GR game. I hope it's a fighter SIM game.
Think its to obvious to be the air combat or endwar, why would they keep the title a secret when we all now the two games are in the pipeline

[ohmsie1972]

Originally posted by Raide:
Ahh you guys and gals sneaking around for tasty secrets. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I accept donations of cake and biscuits if anyone wants to know. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

Just tell us and dont be a tosser

[Raide]

Originally posted by ohmsie1972:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Raide:
Ahh you guys and gals sneaking around for tasty secrets. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I accept donations of cake and biscuits if anyone wants to know. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

Just tell us and dont be a tosser </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats not very nice. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

Have some patience and you will find out.

[ohmsie1972]

Originally posted by Raide:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ohmsie1972:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Raide:
Ahh you guys and gals sneaking around for tasty secrets. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I accept donations of cake and biscuits if anyone wants to know. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

Just tell us and dont be a tosser </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats not very nice. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

Have some patience and you will find out. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Are we all barking up the wrong tree here or not.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[SG RiverDan]

Originally posted by ohmsie1972:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RiverDan:
My guess it the Tom Clancy fighter jet game. Wat too much air chatter for it to be a ground war/GR game. I hope it's a fighter SIM game.
Think its to obvious to be the air combat or endwar, why would they keep the title a secret when we all now the two games are in the pipeline </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This may be just the official release annoucement? There is a lot of mid-air refueling pictues in one video.
Isn't "Mother" the codename fighter pilots give the refueling plane?

[zterrans]

I'd say its either that air combat or Ghost Recon. GR has a lot more evidence for it right now, as while the conversation is mostly aircraft chatter, part of the first file does have two guys talking who aren't sounding like they are on an aircraft radio.

Within the next 98 hours we should have a lot more info, though, and we'll be able to narrow it down. I doubt it has to do with Endwar, given that of all the sites, Endwar has the least debris, and some of the footage suggests a time closer to GR rather than Endwar.

[SG RiverDan]

It is a Fighter Jet game.

The videos are mission sequences recovered from a downed fighter jet.

[CrazySunDog]

Originally posted by RiverDan:
It is a Fighter Jet game.

The videos are mission sequences recovered from a downed fighter jet.

What is Close Air Support? Who is Thunder 21? Who is being pinned down and needs immediate support??

[Mr.Hanky2005]

Originally posted by CrazySunDog:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RiverDan:
It is a Fighter Jet game.

The videos are mission sequences recovered from a downed fighter jet.

What is Close Air Support? Who is Thunder 21? Who is being pinned down and needs immediate support?? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Close air support is usually air support called in close to friendly forces.

[SG RiverDan]

First Video

You hear radio chatter. Sounds like a fighter jet taking off. One pilot calls for 'Alpha Check' (Request for bearing and range to described point.)
Pilot gets instruction to rally with flight 371 and assist with 'Mother' ( The boat on which you are deployed, and where you launched from.) Which doesn't make much sense to me. Why would an aircraft carrier need to refuel?
Pilot responds. "...moving into 'bracket' formation."(Indicates geometry where aircraft will maneuver to a position on opposing sides either laterally or vertically from the target.)
It sounds like a flight of planes are getting ready to refuel. The pilot keeps calling the awacs refuel plane mother. Which doesn't fit with descrption above.
The pilot asks mother to turn off radar for refueling. Then the pilot gets a message. "Low....visibility ahead, you will be popeye for a minute or two. Copy?" (Is basically very low clouds/visibilty)
Two more planes join formation. Pilot BS each other for a bit.
Refuelling plane. "Alright Mother, we have you near full. Prepare to disengage."
Mother turns radar back on. Then you here an incoming missle warning. Followed by an explosion. (Right before the explosion your hear "****.")
"371. Did you get a visual on the bandits?" (Dogfight adversary positively identified as a bad guy. Hostile aircraft.)
(Broken up audio) "Negative....Suface..to Air.."

More jet audio. Video ends.

Video #2 just came up. Only real info is comms with 'Apollo' Sounds like the refuel plane.

[shoeonmyfoot]

im a huge ghost recon fan and by my math the time to total completion will end about 10pm PST on April Fool's Day, so maybe it's a joke on us ghost fans and its promoting some dumb flight game. but im hoping im wrong and its a new ghost recon game.

[CrazySunDog]

But video three is where all the info involving Thunder 21 and the CloseAirSupport comes in. there is ground fighting, a unit is pinned down under fire from an armoured vehicle, and they call in something about GPS coords.


BTW, i think the awacs is called mother because she monitors all of her 'chicks', and mother is the one refueling.

She turns off her dish to refuel, so the fighters are 'popeye' and when the radar goes back on the SAMs are inbound.

As far as the timeline is concerned, I would say the 3rd video is before the 1st.

[Madkat0701]

Tom Clancy's: Firehawk

[snoopyau]

what ever the next game is from Ubi
from looking at the prev release's
we know what it wont be

If its an multi platform FPS
- it wont be BUG free
- it wont be correctly bug/beta testeed
- it wont have a free stand alone dedicated server program that does not need retail disc files
- it wont support opengl on Windows
- it wont have more then EIGHT colors in the game
- it wont have a decent coop player support
like prev R6 and GR games it will be limited
to only 2 to 4 players
- it will have more free content on consoles
- it will come out on consoles first
before pcs
- it wont support USB keyboard and mouse
on consoles
- it wont have spilt screen duel gaming on PC
with keyboard/mouse + joypad OR two usb keyboards and mouse
- it probly wont have a free downloadable
pc demo if it turns out **** (eg like Vegas1/2)
- it wont be finished game upon retail release
another half made game to feed the cash cow
- it wont support a native Linux or Mac client

[o ASYLUM o]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

WWWHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!



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[CrazySunDog]

Snoopyau has the right idea... he's using deduction!! very smart!! let me try:


-it will not be perfect.
-it will not be free.
-it will not make you some Mac & Cheese when you're hungry, you know if i made a game it would make me mac and cheese...
-it will not record the best episodes of family guy when i'm at work/school...
-it will not show up to your tea party...


Geez, this aint lookin so good...

[Inquisitor_Zeal]

My guess is that this is for the new TC flight sim game because all the videos and audio files are linked to air combat of sorts. But i think it would be nice if it was a new GR game that has gone back more to its roots.

Man this teaser site is just as good as the Rev64 one!

[CrazySunDog]

yeah, i dont care which it is, im stoked for a new GR or a new flight game!!

[zterrans]

The files seem to be in order, with 1 probably before 2.

1: Basically AWACS refuels and gets shot down.

2: Mentions a line of "they're gone" followed by a search for a new control, possibly meaning looking for another controller other than the AWACS.

file 2 is shaping up to be another air based conversation, but maybe files 4 and 5 will switch over to something else. But so far, despite being on the Ghost Recon site, its not revolved a lot around the ghosts themselves. But it could still be a leadup to what triggers them. Maybe one mission involves recovering sensitive components of a crashed E-3.

[CrazySunDog]

Now that the vid is complete, there is more to the 3rd vid that's intriguing. the ground units call in Flight 275 and 276, the pilot tells the ground commander his ordnance, (coupla mavericks and rockeyes, also mentions his amt of 30mm rounds) and after the strike,(done by laser designation) the ground commander does a B.D.A. (bomb damage assessment) including vehicles destroyed and k.i.a.

very cool, whatever kinda game its for!!

[PrairieGhost]

Maybe a satellite is down which means no more Advanced Systems. We can only hope!

[scoped_out_99]

maybe its air combat but in the ghost recon world?? i hope its a new ghost recon though

[Asrugan01]

Hmm, just discovered the buring dossier, I'm hoping for a new GRAW personally....

IMHO Graw 1 & 2's single player storyline never finished. Who were the mercs? Who funded them? I'd like to see the ghosts sent to find that stuff out (Maybe even to a non Mexico local, hint hint, eastern europe)

[alienshogun]

i remember when the GRAW came out one of my magazines talked about Piloting the fighers in the battlezones as the whole game... so instead of being on the ground you were just the fighter jet... Maybe thats what this is

[capteenix]

Originally posted by edubya42:
ghostrecon3.com now takes you right to the ghostrecon website. Looks like there will be a 3 afterall.
Ghost Recon 3: Advanced Warfighter. Ring a bell?


Originally posted by SergeantCarnage:
I'm with everyone else, no more Mexico.

I think I'm done with the AW bit. I like a new Ghost Recon that puts the emphasis back on the team and the player and not all the technology. I like the GRAW multiplayer, but not the single player. And I loved the previous Ghost Recons. The only problem is there is a thread in the GRAW forum that announces it the satellite wreckage, and not the other forums. Looks like Mexico 3.

At first I thought the smoking thing was a medical file, now after some thought. I could see it a being a peice of the fallen satellite. More importanly, something storing data. And the store could send the Ghosts on a recovery mission.
I got the impression that it was a black box from the crashed aircraft that was recovered from the crashlanded designation and is now probed by somebody (us!) all of it's operations.

[capteenix]

Double post ftw

[edubya42]

I HOPE they go back to a ghost recon game. I loved the 3rd person multiplayer and realistic deaths as well as actually playing against another faction rather than just Team Alpha and Team Bravo.

If this is anything other than Ghost recon 3 ill personally be uninterested. but what does UBI care Im sure a lot of people will be interested and their pockets will be full reguardless

[capteenix]

Originally posted by edubya42:
I HOPE they go back to a ghost recon game. I loved the 3rd person multiplayer and realistic deaths as well as actually playing against another faction rather than just Team Alpha and Team Bravo.

If this is anything other than Ghost recon 3 ill personally be uninterested. but what does UBI care Im sure a lot of people will be interested and their pockets will be full reguardless
Ghost Recon 4? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I am tired of mexico...

[edubya42]

Would be cool if they went to the middle east.

[capteenix]

Originally posted by edubya42:
Would be cool if they went to the middle east.

Come on http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Ubi can make better than that. What about solving US problems in..in Africa http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif searching for satellite ,but turns out everything is on a fight at ghosts...

[FrankB1B]

The aircraft that is being refueled is the B-1B bomber

[capteenix]

Originally posted by FrankB1B:
The aircraft that is being refueled is the B-1B bomber
hmm yeah. Ha ha This forum is so silent. Like no one cares (I really don't)

That's Ubisoft, a big problem really, Thanks for being casual to us.

[ghost277]

Haha, what if it was a flight simulator for ghosts . Then you take role as captain Mitchell and you try and fly a plane. That would be hilarious http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

But anyway, I'm supporting the idea of it being a Ghost Recon game, because all the links do link to the Ghost Recon page...

[RawKryptonite]

He lived, they picked him up.
He's a General in EndWar.

[bukowski113]

Some of you guys are getting pretty close... Maybe.

[alienshogun]

yeah me DING DING DING

[edubya42]

this gonna be flight sim game. Super Gayzz

[DarkArcon1]

It's their flight sim... I think Firehawk was it's code name.

And about the General maybe this is early in his career before he became a General.

[GhostUxDt]

I think it's all to do with Endwar. I was watching some videos on gametrailers.com and its looking like a RTS with a twist...

In any case, the videos of the game play for Endwar look amazing!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[capteenix]

Originally posted by bukowski113:
Some of you guys are getting pretty close... Maybe.
Comrade Bukowsky codename 113, It's seems that you know more than what we think. I suppose sending my little agents to capture you from your house and bring them to my little HQ to squeeze all the informations is just as good work as lemon.


PS. I wonder, why is it that the MACSAT7 has a PAUSE button in there? I suppose we have to find clues in the footage itself? or search for words
in the sound.

[SergeantCarnage]

After review, I betting on this being for GRAW 3.
It would be easy to think Endwar or the flight game, but it seems most of the evidence points to GRAW. Rumors have been around about a 3 installment. All the videos are on the Ghost Recons site, all other sites link you to it. Even the colors of the videos resemble the GR colors. Also the forum topic made on the GR forum about satellite wreckage. What part would satellite wreckage play in a flight sim game? Recovering items is something a recon team would do, not a fighter pilot. GRAW 1 hit the 360 on March 7, 2006 and 2 hit on March 8, 2007. So I think we could be in the timeframe for 3.

[capteenix]

Originally posted by SergeantCarnage:
After review, I betting on this being for GRAW 3.
It would be easy to think Endwar or the flight game, but it seems most of the evidence points to GRAW. Rumors have been around about a 3 installment. All the videos are on the Ghost Recons site, all other sites link you to it. Even the colors of the videos resemble the GR colors. Also the forum topic made on the GR forum about satellite wreckage. What part would satellite wreckage play in a flight sim game? Recovering items is something a recon team would do, not a fighter pilot. GRAW 1 hit the 360 on March 7, 2006 and 2 hit on March 8, 2007. So I think we could be in the timeframe for 3.
Why didn't Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 have such a huge marketing? I mean Do you really think that Ghost Recon market is bigger than Rainbow six's?

This is completelly new Ghost Recon or a completelly new Tom Clancy's IP (Flight Sim or something different)

[RawKryptonite]

Originally posted by SergeantCarnage:
Also the forum topic made on the GR forum about satellite wreckage. What part would satellite wreckage play in a flight sim game?

It could work nicely into an air based game.
If satellites are taken out, then GPS guided missiles/bombs are taken out of the picture. I.E., no more kills at a distance where you can't even see the enemy, like the fairly realistic Over G Fighters did. That turned many people off of the game who wanted more "old fashioned dogfighting". Ace Combat (hardly a sim but a TON of fun) brought the fight up close. If satellites are out, then the missiles have to rely on onboard targeting, which could work into the gameplay as short ranges and upclose dogfighting.
Since GR is set a bit in the future and the Air Combat game uses high tech planes, then more reliance on GPS also works into the gameplay.
So..."uh oh the satellite is down! Switching to guns and Sidewinders!". http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[capteenix]

Originally posted by RawKryptonite:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SergeantCarnage:
Also the forum topic made on the GR forum about satellite wreckage. What part would satellite wreckage play in a flight sim game?

It could work nicely into an air based game.
If satellites are taken out, then GPS guided missiles/bombs are taken out of the picture. I.E., no more kills at a distance where you can't even see the enemy, like the fairly realistic Over G Fighters did. That turned many people off of the game who wanted more "old fashioned dogfighting". Ace Combat (hardly a sim but a TON of fun) brought the fight up close. If satellites are out, then the missiles have to rely on onboard targeting, which could work into the gameplay as short ranges and upclose dogfighting.
Since GR is set a bit in the future and the Air Combat game uses high tech planes, then more reliance on GPS also works into the gameplay.
So..."uh oh the satellite is down! Switching to guns and Sidewinders!". http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
nah, I take Flish SImulator by microsoft anyday, just add the dogfights and were done.

[RawKryptonite]

Originally posted by capteenix:
nah, I take Flish SImulator by microsoft anyday, just add the dogfights and were done.

Good luck playing that on a console. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

[Freekman]

I'm sure you guys have heard rumors of Tom Clancy's FireHawk, a combat flight game. This is probably it. I don't think it's a Ghost Recon thing, though, all though I would be happy if it is.

[capteenix]

Originally posted by RawKryptonite:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by capteenix:
nah, I take Flish SImulator by microsoft anyday, just add the dogfights and were done.

Good luck playing that on a console. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Well now we atleast know that we won't get a realistic flight sim

[capteenix]

Phew, almost all files are available. So now what? boring.

Well atleast now I see that they are not crashing, but neutralizing enemies.

[SergeantCarnage]

Originally posted by capteenix:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SergeantCarnage:
After review, I betting on this being for GRAW 3.
It would be easy to think Endwar or the flight game, but it seems most of the evidence points to GRAW. Rumors have been around about a 3 installment. All the videos are on the Ghost Recons site, all other sites link you to it. Even the colors of the videos resemble the GR colors. Also the forum topic made on the GR forum about satellite wreckage. What part would satellite wreckage play in a flight sim game? Recovering items is something a recon team would do, not a fighter pilot. GRAW 1 hit the 360 on March 7, 2006 and 2 hit on March 8, 2007. So I think we could be in the timeframe for 3.
Why didn't Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 have such a huge marketing? I mean Do you really think that Ghost Recon market is bigger than Rainbow six's?

This is completelly new Ghost Recon or a completelly new Tom Clancy's IP (Flight Sim or something different) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That I dont have the answer to. Ask the marketing department why they decided to spend Ubisofts R6 budget on tv commercials and ads and prerelease hype instead of a viral campaign.

[BS PALADIN]

Originally posted by SergeantCarnage:
That I dont have the answer to. Ask the marketing department why they decided to spend Ubisofts R6 budget on tv commercials and ads and prerelease hype instead of a viral campaign.

Viral campaigns usually come out for games that are 9-12 months from release. They are used as a method to build up hype and interest without actually showing anything substancial about the product. They are usually used to advertise new games and not expansion packs ( ie R6V2 and GRAW 2 ). Endwar, R6V and GRAW were all initially advertised way in advance of their release. Seems like common practise for Unisoft.

So what ever game this is wont be a quick sequel. So we are talking about a new Ghost Recon with a completely new engine and setting ( not GRAW 3 in Mexico ) or the new flight sim game Firehawk.

[CrazySunDog]

I've heard of TomClancy's AirCombat coming out soon, is that the same as this Firehawk game everyone talks about??

[BS PALADIN]

Originally posted by CrazySunDog:
I've heard of TomClancy's AirCombat coming out soon, is that the same as this Firehawk game everyone talks about??

Yeah firehawk was its development name ( alledgely ). Its been known about for some tine. Look at this article from way back in 2006.

http://www.xboxic.com/news/413

[SergeantCarnage]

Originally posted by PALADIN_BS:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SergeantCarnage:
That I dont have the answer to. Ask the marketing department why they decided to spend Ubisofts R6 budget on tv commercials and ads and prerelease hype instead of a viral campaign.

Viral campaigns usually come out for games that are 9-12 months from release. They are used as a method to build up hype and interest without actually showing anything substancial about the product. They are usually used to advertise new games and not expansion packs ( ie R6V2 and GRAW 2 ). Endwar, R6V and GRAW were all initially advertised way in advance of their release. Seems like common practise for Unisoft.

So what ever game this is wont be a quick sequel. So we are talking about a new Ghost Recon with a completely new engine and setting ( not GRAW 3 in Mexico ) or the new flight sim game Firehawk. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well there is no guideline for your nine to 12 months, some have been 6, and by the time Endwar comes out that will have been well over a year. No one said whatever it is will be a quick sequal either, or that its in Mexico for sure. It could be Advanced Warfighter in Poland for all I care. Im just taking a guess based on what I see as are you. But the only Ubisoft forum that links to this one is the Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter one.

[CrazySunDog]

Originally posted by PALADIN_BS:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CrazySunDog:
I've heard of TomClancy's AirCombat coming out soon, is that the same as this Firehawk game everyone talks about??

Yeah firehawk was its development name ( alledgely ). Its been known about for some tine. Look at this article from way back in 2006.

http://www.xboxic.com/news/413 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I see, i thought it might be the new name for AirCombat. The video's seem to be supporting the flight sim idea more and more.

[Freekman]

AirCombat sounds pretty right. I haven't listened to all the audio. This same thing happened for EndWar, so atleast we know this game is going have a huge reveal. Maybe it will be all-voice-compatibility, too!

[CrazySunDog]

Well the big reveal will come soon; now that the video's are all done...


It looks to me that the vid's are all done from Flight 275's perspective. So I wonder if the wreckage is meant to be from his aircraft, or one of the others that were shot down.

[beonder13]

nope... watch the compiled video. Seems that they took out the intended target after almost getting clipped by some SAMs.

[CrazySunDog]

yes, but the last thing 275 says is "corkscrew" then an explosion, and thunder 21 says direct hit or whatever, and there is silence from 275.

[BowserUSC]

So I'm not going to get into whether or not its GRAW or GR. However, I think it's for one of the two, not the air combat game firehawk. Also, im 90% sure that the game will take place in Venezuela, based on the sat image that is shown at the beginning of the flash movie.

[edubya42]

what is 23:00:00 GMT its not counting down, so is it a time?

[BowserUSC]

Originally posted by edubya42:
what is 23:00:00 GMT its not counting down, so is it a time?

Yes, GMT means Greenwich Mean Time, and if it means today thats in about 5 minutes.

[BowserUSC]

Well 23:00:00 GMT has come and gone. anyone getting access to the new content? I'm assuming it means tomorrow.

[Slickrick2345]

Its the hype and announcement to a new ubisoft IP Called Tom Clancy's HAWX.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/863/863558p1.html

Basically it ties into the GR site in that the pilot is in contact with Scott Mitchell as the ghost's are pinned down by tanks. He calls in for air support and the pilot(most likely your character) Flies in and bombs the tanks.

"HAWX supports four-player jump in co-op throughout the campaign. There is also a Vs. mode where up to 16 players can battle online for experience points and in-game cash, which is used to unlock new weapons"

This game definetly has my attention.

[snoopyau]

Sounds like a game to avoid
Ubi keep on LIMITING coop
with games only supporting
2 human players in coop (R6 V2)
or 4 human players in coop (GRAW2)
instead of decent large coop (8 to 16 coop)

Sounds more single player story line mode
then coop or proper game features .

No doubt in classic ubishaft fashion
it wont have a proper stand alone
dedicated server program for console
and pc (win/linux)

[SPEEDY-RED]

LOL, really old thread.

[Pieman13]

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

[SPEEDY-RED]

I just thought i would bring this back up to see if we can awnser the most important question of all.

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">WHAT IS HAWX?</span>