persian swords

[stevedoell19]

i was wondering isnt anyone here just dying to get a prince of persia sword?

[Catapharact]

No, and that's because most people here haven't seen the true beauty of an authentic Scimitar. The swords in the game are such worthless slabs of metals compared to them.

[waylander786]

Originally posted by stevedoell19:
i was wondering isnt anyone here just dying to get a prince of persia sword?

What exactly would one do with one other then put it on your mantlepiece to look at... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

[stevedoell19]

they look amazing
lol i guess you could practise the persian arts with them lol

[Catapharact]

Ummm, just to let you know, there is no such thing as the Persian Arts. A swordsman developes his own styple with slashing swords of th East. Usually, stabbing swords of Europe are confined to a style.

In the East, the emphisis is more upon dodging rather than blocking. However, there will be times where you have to block, and it's best to keep the centre of the blade inlined for the shock impact. A little quick lesson for you.

[stevedoell19]

wow your obsessed
lol

[Catapharact]

I am Saudi. I grew up around the tradition oof sword bearing. That's why I don't see all the fuss around here with "Oooo, I so wanna go get a sword and go on a slashing spree." So childish http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

One thing you learn when you bear a sword is to treat it with respect. It's an art to swordfight, and it's should be done with dignity and grace; not like a maniacal moron. The sooner a person gets that, the better.

[stevedoell19]

i think the pop swords look way better than any other crapy scimitar around so yeah buddy cool it way down lol jk

[Catapharact]

When it comes down to it all, the Swords from POP aren't very "Practical." Any buffon can see that (and no I am not pointing it specifically to you.) You need a thin curved blade for a good slash. The swords in the game are too broad bladed, making them very impractical.

Just keep that in mind.

As for calling Scimitars Crappy, do know that you are insulting our traditional ancient weapon and there by, part of my culture.

[stevedoell19]

scimitars are in so many ydifferent culteres

[Catapharact]

Well most of them are from the east. So are you admittingly saying that the entire eastern culture makes stupid swords? That is a big accusation...

If you do not back your statement with good arguments, it can be seen as Non sense Bashing.

[Badar_Basim]

Ok ok everyone come down hear. Catapharact as an arab myself I now how you feal and I must say many of stevedoell19 statments where rather ofencive (shame on you stevedoell19 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif) as for stevedoell19 the swords in the game are kined of interesting looking (although impractical) and I think that the dagger of time would look great in my collection http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. Now stop fighting you to http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[stevedoell19]

ok sorry catapharact i was not trying to be offensive to your culture but if you would have noticed all of my lol's i was jking around

[orikagan]

well said Catapharact.

I am personally really fond of Japanese swords. I practice 'Aikido' a marshal art, and sometimes we practice with the Bocan, a japanese shaped sword made of wood. i know how to use it well and im thinking of buying a real one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.
im not intending on killing anyone... don't worry... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

[Catapharact]

I am not by any means fighting. I am simply stating my opinion in a discreet way. No flames or anything.

As an Arab, you would have come across swords, and may have used them for cerimonial purposes right Badar? If so, you would as I know the practicallity of light curved blades.

Okikagan, Finally another one who knows the true respect of a sword. Ah Aikido. So you have reached the weapons training? Just PM if you want to go on with the discussion on Aikido. I am just on Joint Minipulation area at the moment.

[stevedoell19]

i have a bocan and an assortment of persian looking daggers and throwing knives as well as a elven scimitar found in the lord of the rings and finally a japanese samurai short sword

[Catapharact]

Originally posted by stevedoell19:
i have a bocan and an assortment of persian looking daggers and throwing knives as well as a elven scimitar found in the lord of the rings and finally a japanese samurai short sword

Then you are a danger to yourself with these assortment of weapons, because you have just proven wih your post that you are too uneducated and untrained on the matter of blade handeling. It's a weapon you are holding, not a toy.

[Badar_Basim]

Originally posted by Catapharact:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stevedoell19:
i have a bocan and an assortment of persian looking daggers and throwing knives as well as a elven scimitar found in the lord of the rings and finally a japanese samurai short sword

Then you are a danger to yourself with these assortment of weapons, because you have just proven wih your post that you are too uneducated and untrained on the matter of blade handeling. It's a weapon you are holding, not a toy. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh come on Catapharact loosen up its not like he is going to go out and slay Leviathans his weapons are simply trinkets.

[SpyderNynja]

dood, i REALLY want a pop scimitar, preferably the eagle sword, i just love the shape of it. too bad they dont sell em. oh well, i'll make one myself! lol.

[skydunkaa]

Originally posted by Catapharact:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stevedoell19:
i have a bocan and an assortment of persian looking daggers and throwing knives as well as a elven scimitar found in the lord of the rings and finally a japanese samurai short sword

Then you are a danger to yourself with these assortment of weapons, because you have just proven wih your post that you are too uneducated and untrained on the matter of blade handeling. It's a weapon you are holding, not a toy. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Catapharact you should stop judging people just because they like playing with swords. You stated that he was a danger to himself just because he is uneducated and untrained, well how do you know that, you have no proof that he hasn't been trained. So stop judging people.

[stevedoell19]

yeah thanx man catapharact tons of people buy swords just for collection how bout you cool it way down

[Prince_21]

Yeah i think so too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Sup3rtimmaaaaay]

i like the third sword u get in sands of time!! i want it myself too!!! hey stevedoell did u ever get the water sword in warrior within??almost every foe is dead with only 1 slash w00t!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

[Sayeh]

Catapharact, I truly understand your feelings about the swords, but you need to learn to listen to people who express their opinion about something. I inherited a special Persian sword and a dagger from my long-ago-dead-family *rest in peace*, made in Persia (a few years before Persia became Iran) and I don't think people are making harsh comments about it. If they are in danger, then let them be. Their parents probably warned them about not playing with sharp objects and fire http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif .

[Marek86]

I have over 10 different swords and/or knives. I have trained myself and know how to use them well and carefully, It's hard and dangerous, when I got my first knife at age 14 I accidently stbbed myself in the back of the leg. Luckliy I was going slo-mo. I then bought kendo swords which are training swords and then I trained myself which was a lot safer. I f you train yourself you first have to learn the fundamentals. Blocking, stance, steps, and your primary slash/swing, you can't just run around flailing a sword or you're as good as dead. You have to look for the opportune moment to use which swing or slash, and you can also use the enviroment around you. Everyone says that it is impossible to have a sword battle like they had put together in lord of the rings but it isn't, it's because you have to read your opponent and you have to, well I can't think of the word right now but you get it. Sword fighting is very complicated.

[Garrulous]

Originally posted by Catapharact:
One thing you learn when you bear a sword is to treat it with respect. It's an art to swordfight, and it's should be done with dignity and grace; not like a maniacal moron. The sooner a person gets that, the better.

I agree. I always though sword fighting up close and personal is more intersting/exciting than shooting with guns.

stevedoell...you really aren't funny.

[Sup3rtimmaaaaay]

i like the 3rd sword u get in Sands of time. (the one before the blue one ho kills sand creatures in 1 hit). and the water sword in WW is fun to fight with! almost every foe is dead at one hit and its most fun when u foght a brute with it! u hit him once in his ankle then u can already jump on his neck! hit him once on his head and hes dead LOL http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

[stevedoell19]

hey i wasnt trying to be funny when i posted this thread i was purley trying to see if other people here like the pp swords and then catapharact came in and said no one likes them because they suck, when really everyone who likes pop loves the swords theyre pivital in the series. so garrouloyusi dont care how to spell your name i wasnt trying to be funny

[FCY-JMDK-WLKY]

Keep it civil or the thread gets locked

[Catapharact]

Steve, that was just MY opinion on the matter. It's not the opinion of the general Forum Public. Please don't twist my words.


Originally posted by skydunkaa:
Catapharact you should stop judging people just because they like playing with swords. You stated that he was a danger to himself just because he is uneducated and untrained, well how do you know that, you have no proof that he hasn't been trained. So stop judging people.

If a person has actually one through sword training, his attitude about the entire subject changes. No longer is the sword viewed as a little “toy.â€Â� It’s a weapon. I didn’t see that through Mr. Steve’s posts. I simply gave him my impression of it all.

[orikagan]

I have over 10 different swords and/or knives. I have trained myself and know how to use them well and carefully, It's hard and dangerous, when I got my first knife at age 14 I accidently stbbed myself in the back of the leg. Luckliy I was going slo-mo. I then bought kendo swords which are training swords and then I trained myself which was a lot safer. I f you train yourself you first have to learn the fundamentals. Blocking, stance, steps, and your primary slash/swing, you can't just run around flailing a sword or you're as good as dead. You have to look for the opportune moment to use which swing or slash, and you can also use the enviroment around you. Everyone says that it is impossible to have a sword battle like they had put together in lord of the rings but it isn't, it's because you have to read your opponent and you have to, well I can't think of the word right now but you get it. Sword fighting is very complicated.

A natrual Jedi Master....http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Marek86]

okay sure if you say so dude, oh yeah and that word I just thought of it, Anticipate.

[WA-Shorty]

I think what catapharact was trying to say was that the swords were made too appealing.

You guys are all arguing over apples and oranges.

Video game weaponry is not made to look effective, it is made to look as cool as it can be.

Real swords are made for balance, durability, and in ancient japan how many bodies it can slash through at once.

The blades that look nicer like the kriss in "silat" is made to look nice but can be used as a weapon if need be.

There is also two main kinds of swords. The slashers, and the lungers.

The owners of the swords that slash dont hope to survive in a large war. their tactics are practically suicidal given the limited area to move. If somebody was to fight a slash weapon with a lunge weapon they will draw...but the person with the slash can continue to kill three or four more lungers before his life finally expires. Of course there is also the skill factor.

If you want a sword for your mantel, then the PoP swords are fine, if you want to go on a killing spree... invest in a better weapon.

I dont pretend to be an expert. I don't even have a good knife. but i read a lot of books about people who DO know this stuff. I am pretty sure that only half of what i say is right so feel free to correct me... just dont flame it.

[Revan20052005]

What books about swords and their usefulness do you read Shorty? (I'm saying this because I'm sick and tired of literature) And Catapharact don't take it that personal although you must respect the art of sword fighting you must also respect the newbie and his lack of knowledge of the subject.

[princeofyo]

Catapharact I think I've seen you do this in other threads...It's gotta stop. Stevedoell never said he wanted a sword to go on a killing spree. In my opinion putting words in other peoples mouth is childish and terrbile...I hope you don't do it again.

And of course the weapons in PoP are broad bladed, it's a game, they can't make them as narrow as the real one. I think the swords in PoP 2 are much better anyway. The Eagle sword, scorpion sword, and the water sword (even if it has a bad name) are awesome looking. I sword fight with my friends (using sticks) and I usually kick there butts since I'm the smallest and fastest. I even got a little arrogant and fought 2 against 1 and I still won...but that's another story.

[Dahaka151]

hey guys i was just wondering, dont u have 2 get a licence or something to own a sword. and reffering to the whole prince of persia swords versus the actual scimitars: the prince of persia sword all look ok but r problebly not at all effective in real lif. like u cant really stab a scimy into someone in real life. they were mostly designed to hack off the head because the shape could eaisly cut through someones neck. also there is no scimy like the sepent sword, i world know i have seen at least a thousand of them in real life (btw im not exagerating)

[bitebug2003]

Final Warning Everyone..

The bickering needs to cease now or else this thread WILL
be locked.

Thanks

[Jetrauben]

Slashing weapons are designed usually for multiple opponents. Lunging weapons are designed for duelling or single combat.

Both are equally deadly- a rapier will have a good chance of beating a katana, broad sword, or scimitar. It's just a matter of circumstance and the nature of the duel (unarmored vs armored, open vs confined, etc).

[Catapharact]

Originally posted by Jetrauben:
Slashing weapons are designed usually for multiple opponents. Lunging weapons are designed for duelling or single combat.

Both are equally deadly- a rapier will have a good chance of beating a katana, broad sword, or scimitar. It's just a matter of circumstance and the nature of the duel (unarmored vs armored, open vs confined, etc).

Someone who actually know his/her stuff... Finally.


Again, it's the fighter who can find his/her balance with the weapon in question. If you like precision and pin-point attacks, you would go for something like the rapier. If you like Brute force, and possible one fit fatal blows, the heavier long or Broadsword is your choice. However, Katanas, Scimitars, etc, have found the perfect blance of both worlds. They are light and elegant, yet sharp, curved and deadly. Precision is still necessary to bring down an incredibally aromored opponent, but yet almost every slash from these weapons is a fatal one.

[addejong89]

Cool topic!!
I read books about swords and medieval warfare myself. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif