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Thor_says
05-22-2007, 12:49 PM
Here we go again:
http://splintercell.uk.ubi.com/conviction/video/video.php

Music is atmospheric - graphics are great.
Unfortunately, it is just one level.

I am sure SCC will be a great game. I do not think that you have to throw printers at people all the time to get through a level. Of course, you will notice many gunfights in the trailer. However, these gunfights had been in previous Splinter Cell games/trailers, as well. And.. well.. I don't know. We'll see .....

MeloniesHomeboy
05-22-2007, 01:04 PM
ZOMG!M!NJN@J!NKNDJNBSAKND Its loading....

slit1neck2speed
05-22-2007, 01:07 PM
arghhhhhhhhhhh...fgFHIOIQfwbhpef4u32.. omg... "Pulls up sleve and ties belt round arm and injects"

Jackbau3r24
05-22-2007, 01:13 PM
Animation looks good, but Drake's Unfortunate is still the only game that has the best animation. The CQC looks great. Everything seems to be smooth when Sam performs a number of different moves. I really don't like the running animation, though.

MeloniesHomeboy
05-22-2007, 01:14 PM
It still dont load for me! XF

Thor_says
05-22-2007, 01:16 PM
The music reminds me of Splinter Cell 1's music. It's a nice recommencement after Fisher's fall.

MKCC14
05-22-2007, 01:20 PM
Trailer wont load, maybe too much people accessing it.

CAINE-SC
05-22-2007, 01:21 PM
<STRIKE>Hmm, doesn't seem to load for me neither. I'm wondering how many people are trying to get a glimps of the trailer right now. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif</STRIKE>

Have seen it! Looks great to me! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Wanted_David
05-22-2007, 01:24 PM
WOW! That was totally crazeeee! It looks like Prison Break Season Two
Direct Link to video (http://media.ubi.com/emea/splintercell5/videos/SCC_flyby_trailer_site.wmv)

Shadowcancer55
05-22-2007, 01:25 PM
um... Are there like going to be levels or what..

insanity76
05-22-2007, 01:26 PM
It took a couple tries, but I got it, and DAYUM!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Ghost477
05-22-2007, 01:27 PM
http://www.xboxyde.com/news_4378_en.html
You'll find the trailer in the link i just posted.

MeloniesHomeboy
05-22-2007, 01:33 PM
Oh daaang! Thats diff, thats gameplay! XD

K juuuust watched it all, and WOW, the dynamic environments look AMAZING! Need some more gameplay though to tell for sure how its gonna play really, impressed none the less.

BTW, most amazing ragdoll ive ever seen in a game period.

slit1neck2speed
05-22-2007, 01:56 PM
I liked the way Sam barricaded himself near the end. Totally showed of the physics.

MKCC14
05-22-2007, 01:57 PM
I saw the gameplay video on xboxyde but didnt see any trailer yet.

Ghost477
05-22-2007, 02:01 PM
I apologize for the misunderstanding. That link i posted wasn't for the trailer, it was for the demonstration. The trailer just won't load for me... What do i do?

Jackbau3r24
05-22-2007, 02:01 PM
Sorry if posted, but here's the demonstration of the game:

http://www.xboxyde.com/stream_3867_en.html

Seriously, after all the hype about the animation from Ubisoft, it's not impressive. Sam moving backwards and side to side isn't realistic at all, and there seems to be a sense of jerkiness. Maybe it's the framerate dipping. Gameplay doesn't seem so hot either. Oh well. There's still time for polish, but my hype meter when down.

Thor_says
05-22-2007, 02:04 PM
Well, I think there has been a misunderstanding. I thought it was a trailer... actually it's just gameplay-footage, as well.

braiog
05-22-2007, 02:05 PM
I'm shocked!

That really IS the logotype they're using!!!!

Wow.... kinda looks..... very unprofessional.....

CriminalOrigins
05-22-2007, 02:07 PM
Looks like fun...

It doesn't look like Splinter Cell, but it looks fun. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

slit1neck2speed
05-22-2007, 02:08 PM
Hopefully sam will be able to slit someones kneck in a choke hold this time round .And I am really impressed with the physics.

MKCC14
05-22-2007, 02:10 PM
Everything looks nice and moving smoothly...but they need to work more on those fighting animations. Sam just picked up those guards and threw them across a counter like they were a piece of paper. It looked like there was no weight to the character models.

Plus most of the footage was somewhat too dark to actually see the fighting.

Wanted_David
05-22-2007, 02:20 PM
Havok Engine really looks nice. If you want you can check this demonstration:
http://www.youtube.com/v/wWjSJ0PHqf8

CriminalOrigins
05-22-2007, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by Jackbau3r24:
Sorry if posted, but here's the demonstration of the game:

http://www.xboxyde.com/stream_3867_en.html

Seriously, after all the hype about the animation from Ubisoft, it's not impressive. Sam moving backwards and side to side isn't realistic at all, and there seems to be a sense of jerkiness. Maybe it's the framerate dipping. Gameplay doesn't seem so hot either. Oh well. There's still time for polish, but my hype meter when down.

I love the lady that's talking in that video...

"Who plays these games? Young boys?"

Wow...did they pick her up off the street?

External_Light
05-22-2007, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by CriminalOrigins:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jackbau3r24:
Sorry if posted, but here's the demonstration of the game:

http://www.xboxyde.com/stream_3867_en.html

Seriously, after all the hype about the animation from Ubisoft, it's not impressive. Sam moving backwards and side to side isn't realistic at all, and there seems to be a sense of jerkiness. Maybe it's the framerate dipping. Gameplay doesn't seem so hot either. Oh well. There's still time for polish, but my hype meter when down.

I love the lady that's talking in that video...

"Who plays these games? Young boys?"

Wow...did they pick her up off the street? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>when was that?i didnt hear that.

MeloniesHomeboy
05-22-2007, 03:04 PM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/190/509961941_829862f174_o.gif

Jackbau3r24
05-22-2007, 03:10 PM
I was about to post that gif. lol. I've watched the videos numerous times now. I'm starting to grow on them.

MKCC14
05-22-2007, 03:22 PM
Ok, that animation thing Johnny boy posted up there looks a lot better than the fighting i saw in the gameplay video. That lighting does look so realistic, better than anything i have seen from before.

MeloniesHomeboy
05-22-2007, 03:25 PM
One thing you got to remember, for being a early build, Im very very impressed, but again, this def confirms RIP Splinter Cell, im gonna miss it! But this looks promising, its just new and diff, wow I cant beleive this is SC though, I like it.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/191/509961947_60ee99e117_o.gif

MKCC14
05-22-2007, 03:31 PM
I still think its gonna be a SC game in some way. Not just Sam Fisher. But anyways here is the trailer if you havent seen it:

SCC Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=67458)

CriminalOrigins
05-22-2007, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by External_Light:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CriminalOrigins:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jackbau3r24:
Sorry if posted, but here's the demonstration of the game:

http://www.xboxyde.com/stream_3867_en.html

Seriously, after all the hype about the animation from Ubisoft, it's not impressive. Sam moving backwards and side to side isn't realistic at all, and there seems to be a sense of jerkiness. Maybe it's the framerate dipping. Gameplay doesn't seem so hot either. Oh well. There's still time for polish, but my hype meter when down.

I love the lady that's talking in that video...

"Who plays these games? Young boys?"

Wow...did they pick her up off the street? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>when was that?i didnt hear that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It was pretty soon after Sam baracades himself in the room.

Chris_448
05-22-2007, 05:49 PM
The realism is incredible, that is exactly how the Korean War statues look and the whole general area is right in sync with real life... that is pretty sweet!

sl0ppy_sec0nds
05-22-2007, 06:21 PM
The graphics look ok, but the animations and lighting are impressive.

LoneInTheDark
05-22-2007, 06:29 PM
His walk and body movements are so not Sam. They also have him too short and his physique has thinned. It looked nice...but Sam is gone...just gone...just another video game. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

MeloniesHomeboy
05-22-2007, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by LoneInTheDark:
His walk and body movements are so not Sam. They also have him too short and his physique has thinned. It looked nice...but Sam is gone...just gone...just another video game. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

..........XD

simulacra
05-22-2007, 06:46 PM
Hah! Marinius had the right name for the game, "the Bourne Conviction" even the music sounds like the bourne supremacy, I love it! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

jurgenvanbergen
05-22-2007, 07:01 PM
the trailer aint working anyone more have this problem it is not playing wait a long time but it aint playing

sl0ppy_sec0nds
05-22-2007, 07:27 PM
Hitman: ConVictions

CriminalOrigins
05-22-2007, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by LoneInTheDark:
His walk and body movements are so not Sam. They also have him too short and his physique has thinned. It looked nice...but Sam is gone...just gone...just another video game. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Yeah he looks like he's about 5'6", yet he's throwing guards across the room.....lol

LoneInTheDark
05-22-2007, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by CriminalOrigins:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LoneInTheDark:
His walk and body movements are so not Sam. They also have him too short and his physique has thinned. It looked nice...but Sam is gone...just gone...just another video game. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Yeah he looks like he's about 5'6", yet he's throwing guards across the room.....lol </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree with that. According to the game manual he is 5'11. No way he is 5'11 in the game play I saw. But from the neck up....he looks great! Hated that bald look.

ROLNIK
05-22-2007, 08:13 PM
sad...really sad. oh well, I'll just play SC1 PT and CT

JohnsHomegirl
05-22-2007, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by LoneInTheDark:
His walk and body movements are so not Sam.

Cha I know! Sam actually walks like a real person now, how crazy is that? XF

LoneInTheDark
05-22-2007, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by JohnsHomegirl:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LoneInTheDark:
His walk and body movements are so not Sam.

Cha I know! Sam actually walks like a real person now, how crazy is that? XF </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Apparently the Sam swagger eludes you.....

ChaosContro11
05-22-2007, 10:59 PM
one thing's for sure: Sam Fisher is still a stud.

capteenix
05-22-2007, 11:19 PM
WHERE IS THE DA<M STEALTH EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT?

I only see some Emo Jerk playing GTA with cops. Not Sam fisher or Splinter Cell

sl0ppy_sec0nds
05-23-2007, 12:18 AM
How could Ubisoft go from this

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2050/splintercell42007052217xl7.png

to this?

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3521/tomclancyssplintercelldad1.jpg

capteenix
05-23-2007, 12:30 AM
One Question. Why aren't the Cops using their guns!? Like they want to fight him, so unrealistic!

If was more of stealth action Cops would use their pistol and scream: "Hands in the air! Do it NOW!"

Right now I feel Like they are Screaming to the player "Beat me up"

sl0ppy_sec0nds
05-23-2007, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by capteenix:
One Question. Why aren't the Cops using their guns!? Like they want to fight him, so unrealistic!

If was more of stealth action Cops would use their pistol and scream: "Hands in the air! Do it NOW!"

lol I was thinking the same thing, but never planned on mentioning it.

Filipe2004
05-23-2007, 05:08 AM
If you guys wanna load it right click on the link and click "save target as"
and you download it and watch without any disturbance

Filipe2004
05-23-2007, 05:10 AM
BTW, the game looks like hitman.
wath the hell! is ubi copying now other games, first assassins creed now hitman blood money whyt the tension var thingy. Now UBI cant make a original game whyth something new that for all of us is new?

simulacra
05-23-2007, 05:15 AM
Uhm, crowd interaction is a part of what is called "next gen", somewhat dynamic groups of ppl creating living enviroments that constantly change, AC has it for a reason, so does SSC.
It's a new and tasty gameplay element, kane & lynch: dead men is also using a dynamic crowd system, is that also a copy of AC?

I wouldn't really call the old dark/light gameplay "new" or "original" if that's what you're looking for.

I really dont understand how ppl can keep this incessant whine up when most of you rolled over on your back for DA.
DA was WAY closer in almost killing SC than SCC imo.

Jackbau3r24
05-23-2007, 06:13 AM
ne Question. Why aren't the Cops using their guns!? Like they want to fight him, so unrealistic!

Yes, because we all know that in real life, cops draw their weapons out against a person who has no gun.

You don't anything about cops, do ya? Well guess what? I do. One my friend's from the gym who's on the SWAT said got a call in a few days ago on a hillbillie family that was waving their guns around firing them off threatening one another. He and a two other cops showed up. Nobody drawed their guns, except for the two rookies pulling out their tazers.

sl0ppy_sec0nds
05-23-2007, 06:48 AM
Originally posted by Jackbau3r24:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">ne Question. Why aren't the Cops using their guns!? Like they want to fight him, so unrealistic!

Yes, because we all know that in real life, cops draw their weapons out against a person who has no gun.

You don't anything about cops, do ya? Well guess what? I do. One my friend's from the gym who's on the SWAT said got a call in a few days ago on a hillbillie family that was waving their guns around firing them off threatening one another. He and a two other cops showed up. Nobody drawed their guns, except for the two rookies pulling out their tazers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You must live in the middle of nowhere because most cops I've seen are trigger happy.

Filipe2004
05-23-2007, 06:49 AM
Theres something stupid, when sam is walking, is the player slowly moving the analog controler or is it how sam moves like when you are at a permited area in JBA headquarters?

sl0ppy_sec0nds
05-23-2007, 06:52 AM
Originally posted by Filipe2004:
Theres something stupid, when sam is walking, is the player slowly moving the analog controler or is it how sam moves like when you are at a permited area in JBA headquarters?

Probably the person slowly moving the analog. I noticed some framerate issues in the video, walking fast would make it worst.

Delta-Raphier
05-23-2007, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by Jackbau3r24:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">ne Question. Why aren't the Cops using their guns!? Like they want to fight him, so unrealistic!

Yes, because we all know that in real life, cops draw their weapons out against a person who has no gun.

You don't anything about cops, do ya? Well guess what? I do. One my friend's from the gym who's on the SWAT said got a call in a few days ago on a hillbillie family that was waving their guns around firing them off threatening one another. He and a two other cops showed up. Nobody drawed their guns, except for the two rookies pulling out their tazers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Oh yeah I DO know about Cops a LOT.

Sam is a Fugitive, Most wanted man and dangerous man in USA. You think they will come to him and say : "wanna fight?"

Yeah? Positive? hell, no.

SCREAM-121
05-23-2007, 11:43 AM
I must admit that I was thoroughly excited for this game. After seeing the trailer and the 5 minute gameplay demonstration...I have to say that WOW, am I PSYCHED! This game is going to be insane. The sheer possibilities of interaction are incredible. There's so many different ways to tackle a problem now.

Although a part of me is sad to see the days of sitting in shadows and shooting out lights go, I'm really looking forward to playing a game that's true to life. And this game is definitely it. We all know you can't just sit in a shadow and be invisible, that's just not plausible or believable, especially on next-gen. That's why this game is so great, because Ubi is giving you a ton of different options to get through a mission, using whatever means of stealth you can think up on the fly.

I did see a part where Sam hid under a table and waited for a guard to pass by, then Sam snuck up behind him and knocked him out. This leads me to believe that the old SC stealth tactics are there, its just going to be a lot harder to use them. This game is going to challenge you in every way when it comes to being silent and stealthy. I know alot of you people are upset because you can't just sneak around unrealisticly like before. But this game is for real Stealth players, that can blend into the environment and use anything as a means for Stealth. NICE.

I just hope you still have access to a Knife as well as ways to slit throats from behind or while in CQC as well as Executions with guns. Oh and by the way, the CQC so far looks phenomenal. Hold on, I have to run and get a towel, I'm drooling on the keyboard...

sl0ppy_sec0nds
05-23-2007, 11:59 AM
multiplayer is going to fail bad.


http://www.gameswank.com/content/view/107/1/

Crowd in Multiplayer
Play with, or against, your friends in the middle of a civilian crowd. But know that they will look like any other person, so your sense of observation and ability to act unnoticed are as important as reacting instantly to an unexpected threat.

Wanted_David
05-23-2007, 12:15 PM
Crowd in Multiplayer
Play with, or against, your friends in the middle of a civilian crowd. But know that they will look like any other person, so your sense of observation and ability to act unnoticed are as important as reacting instantly to an unexpected threat.

lol. i'm looking forward to see that. i'm very curious about this multilayer system...
imagine, you're walking side by side with a guy thinking to yourself "Is that Eric or is it just an NPC?", and seconds later he kicks you in the nuts... lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

I stick by what i said before: Splinter Cell: Conviction will be something like Prison Break Season Two; You're a wanted fugitive who wants to have a simple life http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

sl0ppy_sec0nds
05-23-2007, 12:19 PM
It's going to be a mess. Multi player will be full of people throwing chairs at eachother and pushing eachother onto desks. Every server is going to be a bar fight.

Wanted_David
05-23-2007, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by sl0ppy_sec0nds:
Every server is going to be a bar fight.

who said BAR FIGHT?! I love it! *throws a chair at the jukebox and smashes a bottle with the head*
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Chinese_Bookey
05-23-2007, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by sl0ppy_sec0nds:
Crowd in Multiplayer
Play with, or against, your friends in the middle of a civilian crowd. But know that they will look like any other person, so your sense of observation and ability to act unnoticed are as important as reacting instantly to an unexpected threat.
wtf? Where in the hell is the point in all that? Hahahah! Sweet cheebus, this information/garbage overload in such short notice is too much to handle(!)

braiog
05-23-2007, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by capteenix:
One Question. Why aren't the Cops using their guns!? Like they want to fight him, so unrealistic!

From a realistic standpoint (I have law enforcement experience) the last thing you want to do is pull your gun.

It's considered a lethal presence, and LEOs are trained to resolve issues and fall back to their sidearms as a last resort.

You cannot meet what is considered non-lethal force (punching/assault) with lethal force - a court would rule against the policeman. However, if Sam held up a knife or pulled a gun, that would be a different story.

You have to be in fear of your life for you to be authorized to use lethal force.

sl0ppy_sec0nds
05-23-2007, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by braiog:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by capteenix:
One Question. Why aren't the Cops using their guns!? Like they want to fight him, so unrealistic!

From a realistic standpoint (I have law enforcement experience) the last thing you want to do is pull your gun.

It's considered a lethal presence, and LEOs are trained to resolve issues and fall back to their sidearms as a last resort.

You cannot meet what is considered non-lethal force (punching/assault) with lethal force - a court would rule against the policeman. However, if Sam held up a knife or pulled a gun, that would be a different story.

You have to be in fear of your life for you to be authorized to use lethal force. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This doesn't apply to Sam Fisher, who doesn't happen to be an average Joe.

MeloniesHomeboy
05-23-2007, 04:19 PM
Sam is the weapon XD

FSA_shadow
05-23-2007, 04:27 PM
hmm just watched the trailer... not really that sure about it to be honest... i'm sure Ubi will do a great job with this... sure it'll be a little different from what we're used to but is that a good thing? lol... lets wait and see

Black-S
05-23-2007, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by braiog:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by capteenix:
One Question. Why aren't the Cops using their guns!? Like they want to fight him, so unrealistic!

From a realistic standpoint (I have law enforcement experience) the last thing you want to do is pull your gun.

It's considered a lethal presence, and LEOs are trained to resolve issues and fall back to their sidearms as a last resort.

You cannot meet what is considered non-lethal force (punching/assault) with lethal force - a court would rule against the policeman. However, if Sam held up a knife or pulled a gun, that would be a different story.

You have to be in fear of your life for you to be authorized to use lethal force. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is absolutely correct. I have a friend who is a police officer and if they have to take a suspect down they usually use either physical methods ie wrestling them to the ground or if they suspect is off his face or using a weapon (knife)a taser or capsicum spray (aka pepper spray)is used. Sidearms only come out if the other person is firing bullets back at the police.

After watching the trailer I can say this game is going to be awesome. Some people might say that there are few weird things happening in the trailer but you must remember it is still in the production stage so cut the UBI fellas and ladies some slack. But based on what I have seen so far I think it will a top notch game.