Something about Cincinnati, Ohio

[wickawirex]

It gave you a number on the right side. It looked like a IP address which was 39.8.84.30, but it came up with a Longitude and Latitude location which is Cincinnati, Ohio.

[unknwnsoldi3r57]

good work, kid http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

[piratefalcon325]

Kind of weird, but I plugged in those lat/long coordinates as 39.8 N and 84.30 W and got a little town in MN called Montrose. It actually comes up as a farmhouse kind of in the middle of nowhere...

who's right?

[piratefalcon325]

It's about 50 miles west of St Paul, MN. What coordinates did you plug in?

[wickawirex]

Ok it says exactly <39.8.84.30 / 12.0 N>, at 12 oclock noon at 39.8.84.30 is where Cincinnati, Ohio is located

[unknwnsoldi3r57]

i think something is more likely to happen in cincinnati than montrose, MN just because i assume cincinnati is a more metropolitan area and has more of a population in comparison to montrose. and it says "fighting has spread into the midwest" which is where cincinnati is located.

but then again, tom clancy might have a thing for small towns. i mean who of us had heard of Juarez before graw?

[piratefalcon325]

Montrose is only 43 miles from St Paul, and wikipedia the all-knowing considers Minnesota part of the Midwest... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

But, I just rechecked what I was putting into Google Earth (the similarly all-knowing) and I now concur with the Cincinnati hypothesis IF we are saying 39 8'N 84 30'W. But:


Originally posted by wickawirex:
Ok it says exactly <39.8.84.30 / 12.0 N>, at 12 oclock noon at 39.8.84.30 is where Cincinnati, Ohio is located

What if it is east and not west? I agree, with the backstory so far it is probably in the US, but I tried various combinations of the numbers and east longitude and got sand dunes in Eastern China and BFE in Ethiopia.

Not sure how I got Minnesota anymore.

[wickawirex]

Interstate I-75 was in the right scroll bar which goes through Florida, Michagan, Kentukey,Tennesse,Geogoria. Sorry about the spelling i im typing fast because im so excited

[wickawirex]

So far al of these states have been attacked

[kcocgibkcusuoy]

The 75 wasn't the only freeway mentioned in the text.

[piratefalcon325]

just entered those coordinates on a different map search engine and got Dayton, OH which is still on the I-75 corridor. I think Ohio is probably a good bet from the information on the flash video.

EDIT: On another map search I got smack dab in Cincinnati, maybe more like the suburbs, but nonetheless, spot on, brother.

[wickawirex]

So basically we have Florida and Ohio as definte targets.

[piratefalcon325]

Originally posted by wickawirex:
Interstate I-75 was in the right scroll bar which goes through Florida, Michagan, Kentukey,Tennesse,Geogoria. Sorry about the spelling i im typing fast because im so excited

I was about to ask, man. I'd give you a pass if you were writing from the EU. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[wickawirex]

Like I said, I'm very excited about this game and when I'm excited I type really bad.

[piratefalcon325]

deep breath, my friend. the game isn't even out yet. and we don't even know what the game is, which is kind of the fun in these kind of viral marketing campaigns.

[kcocgibkcusuoy]

I do believe you're wrong. the freeways mentioned all lead to atlanta, referring to John Doe's medal he recieved for "saving the day" there.

[wickawirex]

Your right, I did investigate the interstate and it does lead to GA, but I did solve the OPP:CAP which has something to do with the attack on Cape Canaveral which is where NASA, PAFB, and the CCAFS is all located.

[piratefalcon325]

We were talking about that snippet of coordinates that led you to Cincinnati, through which, coincidentally, I-75 runs.

So, the question is, what does Cincinnati have to do with the story that ubi is building (and getting us worked up over)? How is it tied in to Atlanta and the rest of the war?

[unknwnsoldi3r57]

the stories talk about fighting spreading into the midwest. maybe that has something todo with it?

[kcocgibkcusuoy]

Please, someone tell me where this is coming from? You can't just take one piece of data from a set and jump to a conclusion, where is Cincinnati coming from? The I-75 runs through a lot of big cities.

[shadypyro]

its already known that its cin ohio...i posted it 2 days ago...interstate 71 and 75 are on the outside of it and the numbers are the long and lat

and it might not be that cinc is the target..maybe the enemy came in from canada...would explain them leaving the treaty...they came straight down i75 from canada to atlanta so far?

[piratefalcon325]

Read the thread. Wickawirex found some code that looks like an IP address, but if entered as lat/long is in Cincinnati. Don't assume that he's just plucked it out of the ether.

Nice screen name, by the way. I wonder how long it will take for the mods to notice it.

[piratefalcon325]

Originally posted by shadypyro:
its already known that its cin ohio...i posted it 2 days ago...interstate 71 and 75 are on the outside of it and the numbers are the long and lat

and it might not be that cinc is the target..maybe the enemy came in from canada...would explain them leaving the treaty...they came straight down i75 from canada to atlanta so far?

Par for the course with these boards. Everyone is reinventing the wheel every 15 minutes.

The audio talks mostly about an attack from the southeast, so I doubt it came in from Canada. I'm thinking that John Doe was in some valiant stand in Atlanta, but the city was eventually lost, opening 75 as an avenue of approach north.

[kcocgibkcusuoy]

the only two places I find the 75 are as follows:

Critical RTS: I-71 / I-75
POP: 47.2m / 52.8f MED Age: 32.1

I-71 and I-75 run between Chattanooga and Atlanta.

The population data is closest to Chattanooga: [ Sperling's (http://www.bestplaces.net/city/Chattanooga%20Valley_GA-PEOPLE-DATA-1315585011.aspx) ]

Although, there is an OH-71 and OH-75 that meet in Cincinatti, and the census data is pretty close to Cinci's [ Sperling's (http://www.bestplaces.net/city/Cincinnati_OH-PEOPLE-DATA-3915000011.aspx) ]

[piratefalcon325]

The lat/long coordinates, if that's what they are, are more of an oblique reference to I-75 in that Cinci just happens to be there and so does 75.

That doesn't mean that Chattanooga isn't involved too - nice find. Wasn't there some intel about Chattanooga and recommended evacuations in the face of the SE invasion?

[xxjusticarxx]

Originally posted by kcocgibkcusuoy:
I do believe you're wrong. the freeways mentioned all lead to atlanta, referring to John Doe's medal he recieved for "saving the day" there.

To be clear, he got a medal for a successful "rear advancement" - which is a nice way of saying "retreat". =)

[piratefalcon325]

haha, yeah, I just read that.

If you are bored and your girlfriend is out of town (*cough*cough* like me right now) and you had a chance to read most of the records jacket, you can basically figure out everything about John Doe's military career.

[Kramerica85]

Actually, in the military a retreat is known as a "retrograde" operation.

A rear advancement means just that...an advancement from the rear. John Doe probably led a group of Ghosts/Special Forces in to attack whatever forces now held Atlanta in an attempt to give more people time to get out.

[piratefalcon325]

If you're bored and your girlfriend is out of town (*cough*cough* like me) and you read over Doe's record, you'll see that he was awarded a brevet command in 4BCT 1CAV - not sure if that is before or after he went SF - a term that I don't think has been used since the 19th century but means he was given a command rank to which he had not officially been promoted. You'll also notice that at this time he was assigned to NORTHCOM, also known as the the US of A. Again, this might have been before the battle of Atlanta, so it's also possible that he was part of an SF team fighting in Atlanta.

The record says he was recommended for O4 after Atlanta, so that would make him either a company CO or an SF team leader.

God I'm bored.

[xxjusticarxx]

But he's called "Colonel" in the battle videos, so those must take place after all of that. Unless he's not the main character in those.

[kcocgibkcusuoy]

There is also the possibility that the cross-com isn't his, and that the Ghost leader went down in combat. If he is a CO, it doesn't mean that he's a Ghost; at this point any CO may have a cross-com.

[kcocgibkcusuoy]

Also, a quick whois on the "IP address" looking dataset turns up nothing. You can try for yourself here: [ arin.net (http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl) ]

I'm not sure that 12.0N means 12:00 noon. wouldn't a military group just jot down 12:00 hours, midnight being 24:00 hours.

[piratefalcon325]

Originally posted by kcocgibkcusuoy:
Also, a quick whois on the "IP address" looking dataset turns up nothing. You can try for yourself here: [ arin.net (http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl) ]

I'm not sure that 12.0N means 12:00 noon. wouldn't a military group just jot down 12:00 hours, midnight being 24:00 hours.

I agree. I initially thought it might mean lat 12 N, but it didn't make sense in the context. Depending on how I entered the coordinates it put in Ethiopia or China. It might be an azimuth, but for what? A large force approaching on major roadways wouldn't need to know to go 12 degrees N. Maybe the azimuth for a missile strike....?

[tooviolentj]

I still think the info scrolling on the side is Enemy Intel...

[piratefalcon325]

Another thing: did you see the "risk assessment" on there? Why would an advancing army be worried about "canines," unless that is code for something else?

[tooviolentj]

I know... its like they have so much information

[piratefalcon325]

From the information on the flash video, the scrolling info is a mixture of medical records, "mind probe" (ugh), and intel from the crosscom recovered in Paris. It also says something about how Doe is behaving in relation to the "other captives." Meaning, he is a POW and this is the information the enemy has gleaned from him.

I think the "European Federation" is the bad guys in this game. They're mentioned several times in the "radio" report.

[kcocgibkcusuoy]

Well, for the record I tried to interpret that data set earlier, and I got a couple different locations in the middle east.

To be honest I had no idea about the Azimuth method of location. I downloaded a program to plot the points but I couldn't make heads or tails of the damn thing.

I posted my inital findings in another thread here (not seeing the general "state your crack-pot theories here" thread) and I used the data given in a slightly different way.

Il De France is also a decomissioned French warship. One of my inputs is dead in the middle of the Tyrrhinian sea. The Il De France pertains to where the cross-com was recovered. So, it's possible that there was a splinter cell, or another spec. op. group on the ship. That is if that's what they mean.

[piratefalcon325]

Originally posted by kcocgibkcusuoy:
Well, for the record I tried to interpret that data set earlier, and I got a couple different locations in the middle east.

To be honest I had no idea about the Azimuth method of location. I downloaded a program to plot the points but I couldn't make heads or tails of the damn thing.

I posted my inital findings in another thread here (not seeing the general "state your crack-pot theories here" thread) and I used the data given in a slightly different way.

Il De France is also a decomissioned French warship. One of my inputs is dead in the middle of the Tyrrhinian sea. The Il De France pertains to where the cross-com was recovered. So, it's possible that there was a splinter cell, or another spec. op. group on the ship. That is if that's what they mean.

Funny, I just posted in another thread about Ile de France. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I highly recommend reading all of the ten-page information thread. We are rehashing a lot of ground they have already covered, although we are finding nuances that they aren't.

I'm much more inclined to believe that Ile de France is a reference to the greater Paris area, seeing as there is a reference to l'Axe Historique (in Paris), a combat jump somehow associated with that, and there is apparently fighting in France. How'd you get coordinates for the Tyrrhenian Sea?

A 12 degree N azimuth to Cinci might coincide with the "Gulf Coast airstrips" that were serving as strike bases against the midwest.

[kcocgibkcusuoy]

you can't input a location and have it map, you have to move the mouse all over the place and read the data at the top of the window. you can't even mark a point. rediculious.

I know the Il De France is an area of France. That's why I said it's also a decomissioned warship. If you have the time, (and I assume you do since your girlfriend is out of town and al) read my "GRAC?" thread so I don't have to re-post that thing again. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[piratefalcon325]

Originally posted by kcocgibkcusuoy:
you can't input a location and have it map, you have to move the mouse all over the place and read the data at the top of the window. you can't even mark a point. rediculious.

I know the Il De France is an area of France. That's why I said it's also a decomissioned warship. If you have the time, (and I assume you do since your girlfriend is out of town and al) read my "GRAC?" thread so I don't have to re-post that thing again. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I read GRAC, but I really think that the data set that you a referring to, where you got the coordinates that end up in Turkey, (and I think we've established this) ends up in Cinci. Plus, a lot of the demographic data matches. The first result of my google search of population data for Cinci said median age 32.1, identical to what is in the data set. If you want I'll try to re-find that website so you can glance at it.