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sparty7200
02-14-2006, 01:31 AM
This skin represents an Mc 202 Series III of 91a Sqaudriglia, 4 th Stormo,
Campoformido, Italy, early 1942.

The white star signifies a flight leaders aircraft.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/sparty7200/91a.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/sparty7200/il2fb2006-02-1321-01-31-54.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/sparty7200/il2fb2006-02-1321-01-49-21.jpg

available here:
http://www.flying-legends.net/php/downloads/download.php?id=3271


Sparty

sparty7200
02-14-2006, 01:31 AM
This skin represents an Mc 202 Series III of 91a Sqaudriglia, 4 th Stormo,
Campoformido, Italy, early 1942.

The white star signifies a flight leaders aircraft.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/sparty7200/91a.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/sparty7200/il2fb2006-02-1321-01-31-54.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/sparty7200/il2fb2006-02-1321-01-49-21.jpg

available here:
http://www.flying-legends.net/php/downloads/download.php?id=3271


Sparty

AH_Gonzo
02-14-2006, 03:23 AM
Great looking Macci Sparty!

HotelBushranger
02-14-2006, 03:29 AM
We want 205 skins!!!

Abraxa
02-14-2006, 03:41 AM
Nice rendering http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

A couple of observations. Check the fascios on the wing (left wing, upper and inferior parts) the position of the fascios should be switched (the blades of the fascios should point outside).
The 4th Stormo insigna, the "cavallino rampante", should be reversed also, on the right side only.
Check also the panel lines on the wings. You used the hatches of the C205 III series. The two little squared one ,shouldn't be there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

sparty7200
02-14-2006, 04:04 AM
Thanks all!... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

@ Abraxa...noted m8!...will be amended for next skin! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Regards

Sparty

KRISTORF
02-14-2006, 04:28 AM
Lookin good mate.
Look around your house, you might find bits of one mate http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

veltro_205
02-14-2006, 04:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sparty7200:
This skin represents an Mc 202 Series III of 91a Sqaudriglia, 4 th Stormo,
Campoformido, Italy, early 1942.

The white star signifies a flight leaders aircraft. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sparty, nice skin, but allow me only a small historical precisation:

The "white star" was in reality the badge of the 84^ Squadriglia. In fact 10â? Gruppo of 4â? Stormo was divided into three Squadriglie and their respective badges were:

- 90^sq. a red elephant inside a white circle;

- 91^sq. a black "Grifo" inside a white circle;

- 84^sq. a white star.

So it is quite curious to find the badge of 84^sq. on a plane of 91^sq., but there could probably be a story behind that...

HTH, all the best

Ferdinando 'veltro' D'Amico

sparty7200
02-14-2006, 05:45 AM
Hi Veltro,
I'll be honest m8 and say i dont know much about Italian Unit/Sqaudron markings, so base my skins on whatever resources i can find on the net...thus i was working to this:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/sparty7200/check1.jpg

if the profile is correct i couldn't say m8!

The white star information was taken from another document i found which stated that it belonged to a flight leaders a/c and naturally ASSumed to be the same as the profile!

sorry if it's wrong m8!
.....oh the joys of ignorance!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

@ Kristorf..we did have 1 in the house but we traded it in for a microwave http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Regards

Sparty

sparty7200
02-14-2006, 05:52 AM
I found the reference to the white star info:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/sparty7200/Untitled13.jpg

does this help?

Regards

Sparty

veltro_205
02-14-2006, 10:44 AM
Sparty, thanks for having shared your sources.

I know quite well that old (1980) Squadron/Signal on the Macchi C.202 and C.205.

I thus fully understand that you simply reported in good faith what you have found there (and I don't see why you shouldn't believe to those informations).

Certainly I do not pretend that you believe what I say only because I say it, but before showing some proofs, I would like that you look closely at the photo of the line-up of C.202s: if you look with attention, you'll notice that not only the first, but also the third and fourth C.202s have a white star on the nose... all of them flown by flight leaders?

That explaination simply was and still is not correct. Moreover, a better quality (lighter) version of that image shows that the codes on the fuselage reads "84" and not "91"...

http://users.libero.it/f.damico/veltro/84aSq.jpg

Also here is a photo showing the command hut of the 84a Sq. in Sicily, marked with a white star, thus confirming the use as a badge of the unit...

http://users.libero.it/f.damico/veltro/84a_hut.jpg

No blame to anyone, the work was done 26 years ago and I am the first to have written then things that subsequent researches proved different or simply wrong. I know also that the published material on Italian aircraft is still very scarce and most of it is old.

However, a series of booklets actually published under the series "Ali d'Italia", each title being a monography of an Italian aircraft, is a very worthy solution and the data are much more correct and updated (for instance, in the issue devoted to the Macchi C.202, there is a profile of the C.202 with the white star and being coded "84-7"...).

Thanks for your kind attention.

All the best

Ferdinando 'veltro' D'Amico

sparty7200
02-14-2006, 12:33 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif..Cant argue with that m8!..not that i was ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif..
thanks for the info and appreciate the heads up! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Regards

Sparty