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Brownsnakeeyes
11-22-2006, 09:41 AM
You can now dl movies and other things like TV series on live.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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mcmax3000
11-22-2006, 09:45 AM
I was looking around it this morning through my Silver US account.

Me personally, I'm not too interested in the lineup but the prices are very reasonable so if they put up more content that I want (*cough*More UFC*End Cough*), I'll be very interested.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Brownsnakeeyes
11-22-2006, 09:55 AM
I agree but since it has just started I already new there wouldn't a hole lot of stuff up yet.
And yes the price is very reasonable I think.

I'm hoping for more cable stations like the History Channel. Or IFC. That would rock.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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zeeEVIL1
11-22-2006, 10:10 AM
I don't know how interested in this i am personally. My cable provider already has on demand and Pay-per-view available. I don't use those at all. Maybe if the content like movies for example were those that have not been released on DVD yet. Or if they were in the theaters still. That way i wouldn't have to drive somewhere to stand in line for a ticket. That would be pretty cool i guess.

Magiz
11-22-2006, 10:27 AM
I think I'm going to make a 'Silver US' account. That way I can at least check this stuff out.

I know Major Nelson's last show talked about it but, I didn't get that far into why it's not available in some places. I'm sure in time it will be.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Jinx FD
11-22-2006, 10:55 AM
I'd pay... like a dollar for Battlestar episodes. But they probably cost more. And there's no Battlestar. Otherwise I have a computer on the internets for "on demand" and can shell out monies for nice DVD sets.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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NotFrank
11-22-2006, 10:58 AM
in my opinion i think this is f'ing rad i mean i watch alot of movies......... i mean alot and to be able to have some movies i dont already have on my xbox omg i love it { it just makes xbox that much better than PS3} http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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zeeEVIL1
11-22-2006, 11:05 AM
Don't get me wrong. I watch tons of movies myself, i also buy alot of them. To me though this service would be better if you could pay to watch for example the new Harry Potter flic on your TV from the comfort of your lazy boy on the day it released in the theater. That is somthing that has been attempted once or twice now and would make this service great. As it is cost will be the issue since M$ will have to compete with the cable companies "on demand" service as well as the premium channels. Who cares that you can download Batman Begins. I have had the DVD for a year and it is on Digital HBO at least 14 times a week.

seductivpancake
11-22-2006, 11:05 AM
Too be honest i rather own a dvd copy of a movie.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Brimtown
11-22-2006, 11:45 AM
Therein lies the problem with "on-demand" media, and why hard copies will never go away (at least in the forseeable future). I've seen speculation, even on this board, that in the next few years we'll be able to download music, videogames, and movies on demand. Many "pundits" have even proclaimed the death of the music CD, and some are even predicting that DVDs will be extinct soon.

The only problem is that the giant corporations are simply too greedy for their own good, and want to place too many restrictions on what you can and can't do with their media. You download a movie, you can only watch it a certain # of times or play it on a predetermined # of devices. You download a song off the internet, you can only play it on approved devices without recording capability. You know that Universal actually believes they should get a percentage from every single mp3 player that is sold? Then you look and see these companies suing their fans, and suing websites like YouTube and Myspace, which allow people to share media.

Is it any wonder why some people prefer the freedom that actually owning the media affords? If I have a music CD, I can play it on any CD player or any other device that plays CDs, and I can do so as many times as I want. If I purchase a DVD in a store, I can watch it at home, or I can watch it on a portable DVD player.

True "on-demand" is still a long ways off, IMHO.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Brownsnakeeyes
11-22-2006, 01:32 PM
Brim you just totally changed my mind.

I also just found out that after you watch the movie or show that it deletes after 24 hours.
That's kinda BS.

But I guess you can say it's ok since I didn't pay the total amount if I'd bought a DVD. I guess it's a good thing I have my 360 hooked to my VCRhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

As for beingable to DL full games and movies. It's probably possible. But I wouldn't go that way unless they let me burn it to a DVD.

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Magiz
11-22-2006, 01:52 PM
It's a neat idea but, you have to remember it's a rental service, for some items. This in no way means you can keep the movies you download (which in most cases you dont' want to anyway, considering the size of them). That is why the price is so low. When they first announced this, they had mentioned that. Though since you've purchased it. I'm pretty sure you can download that same thing again at a later time, for free.

That's why if you look at any content you've got on your hard drive. You can see it lists whether it expires or not.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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mcmax3000
11-22-2006, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Brownsnakeeyes:
I also just found out that after you watch the movie or show that it deletes after 24 hours.
That's kinda BS.

That's only for movies. You can watch TV shows as many times as you want.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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PacNW_CE
11-22-2006, 03:49 PM
Technically we don't own the content on the media we purchase, we own a limited license to use the content on the media. The difference here is that instead of having a disc with data on in, the data is stored on a server. Buy stock in Sun now, because more servers are the way of the future.

The way I understood it, the TV shows are yours to delete and redownload as often as you like once you've paid the initial cost. Movies are rentals, that delete after the 14 days/24 hour deal. I wrote a brief passage about how cool DLC is here (http://www.teamrockets.com/wordpress/).<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Uziyahu-IDF
11-22-2006, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by Jinx FD:
I'd pay... like a dollar for Battlestar episodes. But they probably cost more. And there's no Battlestar. Otherwise I have a computer on the internets for "on demand" and can shell out monies for nice DVD sets.

Yeah. I've only seen the mini-series and the original series (which I have on DVD), but a music video someone made for YouTube showed off some of the dogfighting that has taken place in the series. I was floored. To see the Viper, a spaceship I drew over and over when I was 10 years old, engaged in such chaos was jaw-dropping. Plus, there is just SOMETHING about that Tricia Helfer. I'm not normally into skinny blondes, but she's got a voice like a crystal bell and is very hypnotic.

I'd also like to download episodes of "The Unit", since I've missed Season 2.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Brownsnakeeyes
11-22-2006, 04:30 PM
I'm wondering how long until 24 seasons appear.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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zeeEVIL1
11-23-2006, 05:27 PM
I checked it out today, and i will consede that it looks like a pretty nice setup. I like the fact that you can download normal versions of a movie or its HD counterpart. I thought it was pretty funny that in the middle of the completely geek based selections they decided to include The Lake House. A token chick flick to keep the fellas out of the doghouse. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
I mentioned before that i would like to see it come point where we are able to rent a current theatrical release from the couch instead of the $40 cost of going to a movie theater. That would rule.

FireBlade911_ok
11-23-2006, 05:52 PM
Yeah it looks pretty neat. If I didn't have Viva La Bam on DVD, I would buy all the episodes :P.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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zeeEVIL1
11-25-2006, 07:56 AM
Pac you hit the nail on the head with the limited licencing ownership, Brim you also make a few good points about industry problems. Especially suing the fans who support the companies. One argument that i have always had yet really have never seen addressed anywhere is the fact that all of the consumer electronics companies, including the ones that produce all of our music. Are the same ones who also manufacture for the public use Blank cassettes, CD's, DVD's and the machinery that allows us to record anything we want to them. Remember, the ability to record using a PC has only been availible for 3-4 years. All of the previously mentioned items have in some cases been around for decades. SONY got the ball rolling back when they created the WALKMAN. The original portable music player. Add in the factthat your Boombox or home stereo could copy directly tape to tape or CD to tape you could create your own music selection. If recording copies of your music and other items is illegal why the hell do they continue to manufacture product that allow you to do it?
Talk about a double standard.

teamsharkie
11-25-2006, 01:41 PM
Stupid Microsoft, trying to squeeze even more money out of us. It's definitely a smart idea because I'm sure there are tons of people that would pay to "rent" movies from the marketplace, although the movies there right now are very meh.

Personally, when I want to see a movie a second time, then chances are I like it, therefore I'd rather own the actual DVD. But using this feature primarily as a rental source for movies I haven't seen would be a good idea, although they would have to definitely get some better movies instead of the **** they have now.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Brownsnakeeyes
11-28-2006, 04:33 AM
Originally posted by teamsharkie:
Stupid Microsoft, trying to squeeze even more money out of us. It's definitely a smart idea because I'm sure there are tons of people that would pay to "rent" movies from the marketplace, although the movies there right now are very meh.

Personally, when I want to see a movie a second time, then chances are I like it, therefore I'd rather own the actual DVD. But using this feature primarily as a rental source for movies I haven't seen would be a good idea, although they would have to definitely get some better movies instead of the **** they have now.

I don't think you understand the purpose of the marketplace.
The price is very reasonable considering the actual rental=thegas to go get a movie.

And not everyone has cable or satelite.

But like someone else said it would make more sense if they'd release content sooner to the release in theaters. Or at the same time it comes to cable/satelite.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Ninja Kn1ght
11-28-2006, 04:54 AM
The video marketplace is a good idea but it's ruined by the 360s tiny HDD which is totally incapable of storing any significant amount of HD content and the painfully slow Xbox Live servers.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Brimtown
11-28-2006, 05:29 AM
I've said it before, I'll say it again. We need a better way to transfer data back & forth between the 360 and PC. Sure, there is 3rd party software available, but it's really a pain in the arse to use that. Assuming you have both your PC and 360 set up on a LAN network (as most of us probably do), it really shouldn't be that difficult.

Sure, having a bigger 360 HD would be nice. But when many of our PCs come with mega-sized hard drives, why not use those?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Magiz
11-28-2006, 06:00 AM
Originally posted by Ninja_Kn1ght:
The video marketplace is a good idea but it's ruined by the 360s tiny HDD which is totally incapable of storing any significant amount of HD content and the painfully slow Xbox Live servers.
Indeed.

From what I've been reading on Major Nelson's site. They are still working on correcting the problems. As for the hard drive. I'm sure if this takes off, we'll hopefully see something bigger/better in the new year.

Who knows...It's not available here. So I'm not concerned with it, right now.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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11-28-2006, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by Magiz:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ninja_Kn1ght:
The video marketplace is a good idea but it's ruined by the 360s tiny HDD which is totally incapable of storing any significant amount of HD content and the painfully slow Xbox Live servers.
Indeed.

From what I've been reading on Major Nelson's site. They are still working on correcting the problems. As for the hard drive. I'm sure if this takes off, we'll hopefully see something bigger/better in the new year.

Who knows...It's not available here. So I'm not concerned with it, right now. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

To revisit a previous discussion on this, it was said before, that there is no need to store everything you download onto your HD. The XLIVE system keeps track of what you have purchased, therefore all you have to do is cue it up when you want to watch it and it will recognise the purchase and auto dl it back to your system for viewing. I also notice that when the file gets to 40% of the dl, that you can begin viewing it while the rest downloads. I have been using it this past week and I love it!

I bought 2 episodes of southpark and a movie. None of which are on my hard drive at this time. Last night we wanted to watch some south park. So I cued them up, the system saw that I already purchased and let me dl them to watch. took no more than 60 seconds and we were watching both of them. After it was through, we erased them.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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zeeEVIL1
11-28-2006, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by Brimtown:
I've said it before, I'll say it again. We need a better way to transfer data back & forth between the 360 and PC. Sure, there is 3rd party software available, but it's really a pain in the arse to use that. Assuming you have both your PC and 360 set up on a LAN network (as most of us probably do), it really shouldn't be that difficult.

Sure, having a bigger 360 HD would be nice. But when many of our PCs come with mega-sized hard drives, why not use those?

I have doubts that we will see that ability happen. As it is, the 360 is a closed system which does not allow file transfer of that type or burning to another drive. With licensing issues and piracy in general, It makes more sense to do it the way they have it set up than to allow you to store it on a PC.