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Low_Flyer_MkIX
12-11-2010, 01:40 PM
This PS3 driving stuff has got me thinking. Is 'eye-candy uber alles' killing off the traditional playability we all crave?

Now I'll hold my hand up here and confess to prostituting my artistic genius on this very forum with examples of what Il2 can look like, but having dipped my toe into three driving games recently, I'm drawn to the graphically inferior offering as it gives me a gameplay experience lacking in the bright and shiny alternatives. Let me start from the beginning. One of my first pc game love affairs was the original Colin McRae Rally. I followed the series up to the third (or '03) edition before we lost touch and drifted apart. I recently attempted to install its' successor 'DiRT' on my pc. My pc wasn't having it - nor the other two driving games that came with the bundle. One of the reasons I went PS3. Whilst saving up, I consoled myself (oh, the wordplay!) with a cheap copy of Colin McRae 5 that satiated my getting a car dirty and dented needs and must admit to enjoying it, despite it showing its' age (5 years is an eternity in gamesville).

Well, came the happy day when the PS3 arrived and filled LowFlyer Hall with Gran Tourismo 5's call centre on hold muzak. Happy as I am With GT5, I picked up a few more games to feed my new pet with, among them the much lauded DiRT 2 - "bestest graphics in a videogame ever, honest!", and WRC10 "It's awful! Sub PS2 graphics!" Of course, I was blown away with Dirt 2's eye-candy - more than living up to the hype, and must confess that whilst the cars are nice in WRC10, the environments could have had a bit more put into them - not that it's truly awful, it's just that after DiRT 2...well, you know. Then DiRT 2 started to grate. It was the overall X-treme dude 'dudeness' of the presentation, coupled with an unstructured advancement system that got to me. I mean, one of the recognitions/awards you get early on is called 'Gnarly'...FFS! It's gorgeous though, I'll give it that.

WRC10 is, in contrast, just what it sets out to be - a licenced rally sim with noticeable differences in car handling depending on class, with the 2010 World Rally Championship ready to go from single stages, via an entire championship, to a career starting off in the junior classes. It'll keep me happilly annoying the servants with car noises for months. I enjoy it. It's not a bad stab at representing rally driving. The more I play it, the more it draws me in and I forgive its' dowdy first impression. I'm learning to love it.

GT5 - well, it's GT5 isn't it? Stonking new graphics for the new cars and circuits and the 'used cars' you can buy being just that - used in previous versions of the game (Il2's Mig 3 anyone?). For all that it's a great game/sim with something for everybody. I hate Formula One and Top Gear, there's no need for me to go near them - more than enough alternative car stuff to pick from. GT5's rallying sucks, too - which brings me back to that old gaming flame of mine and how playable, faithful WRC10 is. It was, of course, given average to mediochre marks by 'the online games critics' purely for 'not looking like DiRT 2'.

So have games finally taken on a human trait? Is cyber-beauty truly only skin deep?

Dance
12-11-2010, 01:46 PM
You prostituted yourself going with a PS3 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Low_Flyer_MkIX
12-11-2010, 01:47 PM
I feel so DiRTy. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Dance
12-11-2010, 01:52 PM
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Bearcat99
12-11-2010, 03:01 PM
you... you.... you console wh0re... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif



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jarink
12-11-2010, 03:48 PM
Dang. With that title I thought for sure this was going to be a cheerleader thread. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Ba5tard5word
12-11-2010, 03:57 PM
I got a ps3 a while ago and I got a bunch of exclusive games I couldn't get on ps3, but honestly they mostly kind of suck and the ps3 has mainly been collecting dust and I only really use it for blu-ray. Compared to pc the graphics are not that good in most games, way too much jaggies because the ps3 can't do anti-aliasing in most games. God of War 3 was quite fun though, definitely worth at least a rental since it's not really very long. Demon's Souls is really the only ps3 exclusive I have that I consider a must play, it's a stunningly excellent game and really worth checking out. Ninja Gaiden Sigma is a LOT of fun but you can get other Ninja Gaiden games on Xbox and 360.

I'd prefer pc to ps3 any day especially now that you can use gamepads in most games and I can hook my pc up to my HDTV which is great fun. Yeah consoles are easier to deal with because you don't have to upgrade them, so they're good for kids and people who can't be arsed with the complexities and costs of a good gaming pc, but you can get better graphics on a pc and generally better performance.

I do think that this generation of games kind of sucks, I think the ps2 generation was in general better. Graphics were worse sure but there were just a really massive selection of games especially on ps2, and a lot of games in different genres that were quirky and fun and worth playing over and over again--crazy stuff like God Hand, Urban Chaos Riot Response, Dynasty Warriors 4 Empires, Sniper Elite, etc. The new Wii/360/ps3 generation of games seems to produce a lot less games, and they're all kind of bloated feeling and just don't have any soul like games in the ps2 or even the SNES days had. If anything I like games like Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Demon's Souls precisely because they feel like older ps2 or SNES games, not like bloated modern blockbusters.

Low_Flyer_MkIX
12-11-2010, 04:07 PM
Ooooooh! Urban Chaos takes me back. Anyone remember how bad the original 'Hidden And Dangerous' looked? But what an experience!

Bearcat, wash your mouth out with soap now - and go to bed without any supper! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

For Jarink - I was thinking about getting one of these setups - what d'you reckon? Looks pretty durable.
Click! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_vfowqpXXs)

Airmail109
12-11-2010, 04:44 PM
Yup most games have been dumbed down for the console crowd now consoles have gone online

BF2 to Bad Company 2 (dumbed down in terms of player numbers although the destructable environment is brilliant)

Rainbow 6 Three to Rainbow 6 Vegas (massively dumbed down)

Ghost Recon is still pretty good

Forza 3 heavy simulator physics, dumbed down racing (no qualifying or race weekends)

Call of Duty (god awfull shooting gallery POS with Quake style multiplayer)

The list is endless. I love games with which are complicated lots of buttons damnit!

Low_Flyer_MkIX
12-16-2010, 08:51 AM
...and another thing. Having thoroughly tested it, I can reveal that The a.i in GT5 sucks! Big time. It should be called 'Electolux racer'. How hard would it be to put some brakes or collision avoidance routines in there instead of the pre-set shunt-you-up the-arse-if-you're-on-the racing-line we have at the moment? I'm coming around to the popular view that GT5 is a half-finished product rushed out for the Christmas market. I'm still enjoying WRC, even if the career menu is sub-ZX Spectrum - nevermind PS 1. No ****-poor a.i cars ruining it is a bonus.

arthursmedley
12-16-2010, 11:32 AM
You need to get out and shag more, L_F m8.

Messaschnitzel
12-16-2010, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by arthursmedley:
You need to get out and shag more, L_F m8.

I agree. I suggest that in order to get into the spirit of things, you should rename your abode from 'Lowflyer hall', to something else.

Something like:

'Shagmore® Hall'.

With a really cool bronze placard on the front door for the prospective birds to read:

'-Enter freely and of your own will-'



® Copyright A. Smedley, Ltd.

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Mr_Zooly
12-16-2010, 01:55 PM
I have an 360 and so does my Wife (kinnect for exercise she says) and my 2 boys also (CoD and the like, also playing DVDs etc..), the 360 is OK for certain low IQ (or too much beer http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif) quick game stuff but tbh my PC will remain my platform of choice for the forseeable future.

WTE_Galway
12-16-2010, 03:53 PM
Mario Kart rulezzz

be sure

Low_Flyer_MkIX
12-17-2010, 12:15 AM
I'm in a sort of turmoil at the moment. My younger brother became a grandfather last week, and it just made me think about stuff. Maybe it's time to hang up my ****le and put my shagging days behind me. I might even get a haircut. Meanwhile, I'll take a virtual tour of the world with Sebastien and the boys and see if I can squeeze a bit more out of my shiny new Aston Martin around the Le Mans circuit, while I reflect on the past; those I reeled in and those that got away. Fishing analogies. I hate fishing. Has it come to this? Maybe I better get out and shag more...

Click! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J5xs2ukksE&feature=related)