OPTIMUS REVEALED BY xNJxMFmassacre AND TEST3891

[aj31893]

PRIMES CHEST
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s193/MISSCODY1/prime.jpg?t=1235448619


OPTIMUS FACE
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s193/MISSCODY1/OPTIMUS_REVEALED_02.jpg

HALF OF PRIMES BODY
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s193/MISSCODY1/OPTIMUS_REVEALED_03.jpg

SIDE SHOT
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s193/MISSCODY1/OPTIMUS_REVEALED_04.jpg

The crane thats ready to lift prime
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s193/MISSCODY1/OPTIMUS_REVEALED_05.jpg

The crane frome side shot
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s193/MISSCODY1/OPTIMUS_REVEALED_06.jpg

The Base there symetrical
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s193/MISSCODY1/OPTIMUS_REVEALED_08.jpg
MIkk Q's flying car
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s193/MISSCODY1/OPTIMUS_REVEALED_09.jpg

[naeseth]

That map looks great! Too bad i dont have ps3. Great work, really. Not only the optimus prime, but the rest of the map looks great from what i can see in the pictures.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

[Mikk Q]

It's a 360 map. Nice work Massacre and Test. Plays great on Team Deathmatch, looking forward to giving it a go at Capture the Diamond.

[zeeEVIL1]

Awesome Job guys!
This looks great and I am downloading it.

I have to tell Drewzor.
The version we made on Predator was one of our best collaborations.

[Skorpius47]

You didn't provide any description or images of the overall layout. How is this map set up? What is gameplay all about? I don't really know what the point of this map is outside of the gimmick of a Transformer being unburied from the sand except that the bases are symmetrical.

[Agent00Kevin]

Isnt Optimus Prime enough? I mean, his default setting is 'totally awesome'. Also, his default setting is his ONLY setting. lol

No, seriouly, it looks like a fun map, as long as it plays well. It looks like there are some areas that may be too open, but screens can b deceiving. I had trouble getting representative screens for a few of my maps. I didnt have empty, flat areas but it looked like it in the screens. Also, the 'jungle' collections I put in looked much thicker in the screens.

[aj31893]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Skorpius47:
You didn't provide any description or images of the overall layout. How is this map set up? What is gameplay all about? I don't really know what the point of this map is outside of the gimmick of a Transformer being unburied from the sand except that the bases are symmetrical.[/QUOTI have not seen any post on this site with a layout.......lol....this site is mainly advertising...for example"have you ever seen an add for a movie,they dont give you the plot or the ending......want to know why?they want you to download the movie!
what is the point of my maps....to have fun and play farcry on.......what about yours?
Do you even design your own maps most of the maps you made were copied off of bungie....lol

[Fauch_]

2 transformers maps recently (the other one being from DeathWeaponXx) that's surprising, because the movie didn't seem that memorable to me.

[aj31893]

Originally posted by Fauch_:
2 transformers maps recently (the other one being from DeathWeaponXx) that's surprising, because the movie didn't seem that memorable to me.

I started my map before weapon even stated his map i will get him to post that on here for u...me and him had a talk about that tooo..
also mines is not based on the movie the old cartoon

[Fauch_]

I didn't know about the cartoons. I thought the transformers were only toys.

[Agent00Kevin]

There is only a finite genre of maps. Any map we can create can be compared to another game. I do that mentally a lot when I play maps, like 'oh, his reminds me of F.E.A.R.' or whatever. And even if we did make maps based on other games, a lot of those maps seem to fare pretty well.

[Skorpius47]

Originally posted by aj31893:
Do you even design your own maps most of the maps you made were copied off of bungie....lol I have designed several maps that have gotten universal praise by everyone that plays them. I'm well versed in FPS map design theory which is the reason why I asked you what your map is about.

Your map is a gimmick. Nothing more. All of the downloads and ratings you get will be because of Transformers, not your own design. Without Optimus Prime, you have a generic and bland map. If you understood map design theory and developed a well-playing map around the gimmick, I might have given you some slack but, judging from your response, it's obvious you're in this for a quick 15 minutes of fame and not for actual map design.

EDIT: That was worded very poorly. What I should have said was that advertising your map showing just the trinkets you build will make your map look like nothing more than a gimmick. To me, the pictures provided don't show me how the map plays out and that doesn't help sell it. Of course, I'm a minority in this community, focusing more on gameplay than aesthetics.

You can Google search some design theory references to freshen up on a few things that would help in designing great playing maps. The Valve Developer Community has a very great article that, although written for Team Fortress 2, can be used for FarCry 2 map making.

http://developer.valvesoftware...ki/TF2_Design_Theory (http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/TF2_Design_Theory)

There are plenty of other articles out there. If you care, take a look and read up.

[Alpha-sgt-14]

Optimus dose look a lot like the cartoon, great work on him. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Those turrets and the hover crafts are awesome, great job!

[Mikk Q]

LOL. Skorpius talking about gimmicks and game design. Are you kidding me? The only reason anybody even knows who you are is because you use the biggest gimmick there is: steeling Halo maps. Sorry to burst your bubble skorp but you did not design those maps. Get over yourself, you're having delusions of adequacy. The one thing you are good at is ranking on others maps.
I played your map, you know, the one you actually designed. It played alright but nothing groudbreaking. What was it you said after playing Optimus Revealed ? I believe it was "what am I missing here, it was just assualt rifles, machine guns and snipers".
and how was yours any different other then the being unbalenced part. Oh wait it had a windmill but I guess that would be your gimmick being the screenshot and all. Again, delusions of adequacy. May be you should do a little reading yourself in between working on your terrain work (nice jaggies on the roundabout path).

[Skorpius47]

Originally posted by Mikk_Q:
LOL. Skorpius talking about gimmicks and game design. Are you kidding me? The only reason anybody even knows who you are is because you use the biggest gimmick there is: steeling Halo maps. Is that all you have, honestly? Not once did I promote any Halo map. Not once did I ever try to take any credit. And yet you (among all other jealous fanatics) accuse me of using those maps to gain fame? Unlike you, I'm not in this for fame or recognition. I'm not here to get my name known. I've done nothing but post 3 of my CUSTOM maps here, several of my friends' maps, and made some constructive criticism on the boards. And here you are, a "veteran" of this community, trying to butt heads with me as an equal. Those Halo remake maps must have been very well made because I don't see any joe-shmoe-Valhalla-BloodGultch arguing with the almighty Mikk_Q.

I criticize others' maps that I feel could use just one more step in the right direction, one more ommph of effort. Unfortunately, it's becoming more and more clear that no one cares about that extra effort because of comments like Alpha Sgts and attitudes like yours. The blind fake praise everyone shats out onto everyone else just to make themselves look like saints is detrimental. "Great job, looks awesome" doesn't help someone learn, and doesn't help them understand that they can still work and grow with their skills. If someone shows potential and promise, I'll be there to point out things they should keep an eye.

By the way; my custom maps can stand up against yours in contest, and never budge. In fact, they have. You accuse me of "delusions of adequacy" with such a pompous attitude radiating of self importance, the irony is more than apparent. Pull your head out of your ***. You're nothing special either. The only difference is that you believe you are whereas I don't give a rat's *** if I am or not.

[Fauch_]

I agree with skorpius. about gimmick maps I mean.
(don't know if this map is one of them, since I'm not able to download it at the moment)

Mikk Q : you are harsh with far cryerstone (or whatever it is called lol) I don't know exactly how it plays, but it at least has the great quality to not look bland. (I'm not bashing you btw, I like your maps too)

[CrazyUncleDave]

I'm no moderator, but this discussion is getting waaay off topic.

My take on this map:

It is most certainly NOT merely a "gimmick" map. We played it last night and it played quite well. It does cater a bit more to the sniper than I prefer to see (I'm a less-than-average sniper on my best day and I racked up a LOT of sniper kills), but this map works for a number of weapons classes. I would love to see a couple of trenches, though, or even a network of shallow caves snake their way across the sand dunes from base to base...I think that would really even the playing field and make this a truly balanced map. Then you have the option of braving the surface, or trying a more sneaky approach. Trenches could also work with the theme of the map, since there's an excavation taking place...it stands to reason that there would be some digging going on around Optimus.

TEST, massacre: if you don't mind, I'd like to work up an alternate version of this map with the changes I proposed. I won't publish it or anything, but just give it you y'all. I have NOT done anything yet, but I think it would be fun to mess with this one a bit. If you would rather I just left it alone, that's totally cool too.

[aj31893]

Originally posted by Fauch_:
I agree with skorpius. about gimmick maps I mean.
(don't know if this map is one of them, since I'm not able to download it at the moment)

Mikk Q : you are harsh with far cryerstone (or whatever it is called lol) I don't know exactly how it plays, but it at least has the great quality to not look bland. (I'm not bashing you btw, I like your maps too)

I dont even know where your getting this information of my map being bland
skorpius posted that my map was bland and didn't even play it or download it......lol

ohhh it was also funny how (his freinds) were having a great time on the map butt yet he's the only one that complained...


Dont get me wrong when i first saw skorpius's maps i liked them.......
butt out of the thousands of people who posted map's like fallout and star wars why did you only post somthing on my map saying it was a gimmick map...hummmmm

[Alpha-sgt-14]

[/QUOTE]
I criticize others' maps that I feel could use just one more step in the right direction, one more ommph of effort. Unfortunately, it's becoming more and more clear that no one cares about that extra effort because of comments like Alpha Sgts and attitudes like yours. The blind fake praise everyone shats out onto everyone else just to make themselves look like saints is detrimental. "Great job, looks awesome" doesn't help someone learn, and doesn't help them understand that they can still work and grow with their skills. If someone shows potential and promise, I'll be there to point out things they should keep an eye.
[/QUOTE]

I had no problem with this map skorp, He did do a great job. u expect me to criticize his map but i had nothing to criticize about.
I hope u understand my point. Its all based on opinion, ur starting an argument that probably will never be solved. I mean what i said and if i found problems i would of notified NJ about them.

[Skorpius47]

Originally posted by aj31893:
Dont get me wrong when i first saw skorpius's maps i liked them.......
butt out of the thousands of people who posted map's like fallout and star wars why did you only post somthing on my map saying it was a gimmick map...hummmmm Because the map showed a lot of promise, but you didn't post anything about the map itself. I suggested you post something about the layout, but you attacked me instead, criticizing my focus on gameplay over gimmicky aesthetics and insulting me just because I asked you questions. The problem a lot of people are doing is use gimmicks for a quick gain, and I think that's the wrong way to go about it in this community.

Contrary to Mikk_Q's glaring inaccuracy, I've never used the Halo remake maps to garner fame or glory. I made those for myself and my friends to play on, as well as to practice the editor without having to focus on layout. Once my skills improved with construction, layout became primary and the gimmicks were over.

[zeeEVIL1]

Here is a Slideshow of the map (http://fcmaps.net/p/media/media.php?555307DC.8C0277C54681) that me and Drewzor made on Predator.
After downloading your map I think it would add a little variety to the map if you did escavate around him and change the angle of his body so you could run under or behind his leg. Or have a couple of levels with small tin walls providing cover.

You guys are lucky that this Editor allows you to make a much more convincing Optimus.

Otherwise the map is pretty cool.
Great job with the Hovership also.

[DEATH_WEAPONxx]

ok first can't we all just play nice? Second I think that your version of transformers has a lot of great elements in it and it does not matter when it was made nor if there are multiple maps sharing the names what matters most is that you have enjoyed making the map, as well as created something great for others to enjoy. Please stop attacking one another and get back to what is the core of it all like map editing for fun instead of egos. So with that said great job and keep up the great work

[Fauch_]

Originally posted by aj31893:
I dont even know where your getting this information of my map being bland
skorpius posted that my map was bland and didn't even play it or download it......lol


hum sorry, didn't mean your map actually. I mean, I see a lots of maps which look bland to me.

[freakyhorizon]

Great map! You guys did an outstanding job!

[Agent00Kevin]

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