Musician Thread

[UnDead_Knight1]

I play Jazz shred http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif hardest thing I've ever played O_o

[Mortificus]

so, i have been thinking about learning to play either a flute, or a guitar, but im not sure which. can anyone give me the average cost of them and, in your guys' opinion, which is easier to learn?

[UnDead_Knight1]

Depends what music you wanna play, I can tell you though that a decent guitar does cost quite a bit, especially if it's electric guitar, but it's very rewarding and versatile instrument http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Razor_Ace]

@Khaled

ANyway, to continue the talk from the pictures thread, yeah the setup is pretty good, and I'm especially impressed with the tremolo system. It can take a lot of abuse and it has pretty interesting functions like the intonation tool and the tension adjustment, and it still performs like any floyd rose like trem, except it doesnt have the issues that come with a floating bridge. The lack of other inlays is taking some time to adjust but I'm getting there. The neck joint is also superb. It's bolt on, but its slightly curved so the higher register is more accessible, and the best of al, the guitar is light and thin, which is quite a relief. One last thing I'd wanna do is maybe put the JB in the bridge and most definitely put strap locks. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

What issues come with a floating trem? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif they can all be worked around http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif There are FRs with a tremolo for each string, meaning if one string snaps, the rest are still in tune, now that's awesome http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif they still don't make them for lefty guitars though, or else I would've installed one on mine http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
And yeah, strap locks are a must, lol

[Razor_Ace]

Yeah I know that. Schaller makes the best original Floyds but they are expensive as hell.

I couldn't find a guitar with an original floyd in this price range, but I heard a lot of good stuff regarding the ZR trem, and it's true. It's way beyond the Jackson trem I used to have, and it stays in tune no matter how much you abuse the guitar.
Yep, just got strap locks today. It's one of the best investments you can make in a guitar, and they are worth every penny. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

You can always just install an original FR on your current guitar, but no need to if the one you're having stays in tune despite the abuse http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Strap locks are indeed the best investment for guitar, it'll save your guitar from falling http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Razor_Ace]

I dunno if I'd go for it, but what I WOULD like to install next would be Seymour Duncans, then it'll be perfect. Infinity pickups are okay, but somehow they seem to not have enough gain.
This'll probably be the last tremolo based guitar I'll buy. A few years from now, I'll get me a Jackson RR1T, the best V guitar ever made.

[Karz1993]

hey guys, lol its been like YEARS since ive been on here!

anyway, i been playin the electric guitar for just over a year now. No lessons, self taught. I play metal, and love playin Metallica and Avenged sevenfold songs atm.

I use a Jackson Kelly KE3 Pro, with...err...i Fender Frontman 15g that i got from the starter pack rofl.

[UnDead_Knight1]

Welcome back http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
You should've changed the amp before the guitar, lol

@Razor: SD FTFW!!!
Why the last tremolo based? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif not that non tremolo ain't good, but why not have the tremolo? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Karz1993]

Hehe thanks xD

Yeah i know, but i couldn't resist the guitar...

Also, atm, i only really play at home, and with m friends (got some guitarist friends and drummers too). We haven't really formed a band or anything, but intend to. I figured i should get a good amp once im really sure about whats needed etc for a band, for gigs and stuff. But for the moment, a home/jammin amp's all i really need xD.

But the fender squire strat really didn't do it for me, 21 frets, one way tremolo, pretty dodgy pickups. The KE3 kelly i got now has a floyd rose (though its an official licensed, not an original), 24 frets, and Seymour Duncans, and i love it xD.

[UnDead_Knight1]

Well, it's Jackson, it's pretty hard to resist, so I know where you're coming from http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif besides tube amps ain't exactly cheap http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

And I agree about the Squire, I smashed mine on stage and burned it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Karz1993]

LOLOLOL NICE.

Yeah i know, i rkn i'll wait a lil bit before i get a gud amp.

Also first i wanna get a gud distortion pedal, and maybe a wah pedal too XD. SOme solos just don't sound the same without it!

[UnDead_Knight1]

Wah pedal I agree, but you don't really need a distortion pedal if you have a good gain tube amp http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

[Razor_Ace]

@Razor: SD FTFW!!!
Why the last tremolo based? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif not that non tremolo ain't good, but why not have the tremolo? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Well I'm pretty happy with this one, but I also wanna try a guitar that has no tremolo, for diversity sake, and I love the RR1T as it is the top of the line Jackson guitar, and it's also the one Kirk used in the good ol days. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

By the way, have you heard of the signature Wah they made for Kirk?

And welcome back Karz. Yeah that sounds like a pretty sweet Axe, and yeah you definitely need a good amp. You could take a look at some digital amps or a processor like the Line 6 POD. I got one, and I like it quite a bit, and the versatility is great too. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

A guitar with a tremolo can give you the experience of one without one, but one without one can't give you the experience of one with one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif but it is indeed pretty awesome http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The signature Wah for Kirk is just a standard wah pedal....

[Razor_Ace]

I know, but, all I'm saying is that I'd like my next guitar to be tremolo free just for the sake of owning such a guitar, and the best example of a fixed bridge axe is a RR1T. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

Suit yourself http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif myself, I'm addicted to FR http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[DarK_PhoeniX_22]

Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
That's actually better, since you can use it as much as you want, and not worry about replacing the tubes.
rofl http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

razor: thx.. mesa boogie huh?http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif nicehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif soon you'll have that awesome John Petrucci tone then http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

JOHN PETRUCCI IS GOD!!!


Had to be said http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Razor_Ace]

Originally posted by DarK_PhoeniX_22:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
That's actually better, since you can use it as much as you want, and not worry about replacing the tubes.
rofl http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

razor: thx.. mesa boogie huh?http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif nicehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif soon you'll have that awesome John Petrucci tone then http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hehe well almost. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Nobody can really get close to Petruccis tone, except for him. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
But yeah the Quad Pre is pretty closely based on the preamp from the head Petrucci used back in the day, which was a Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+. That's probably one of the hardest to find and best sounding amps ever made, but I think the new Mark V should come pretty close to it as one of it's channels is based on the IIC+.


Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
JOHN PETRUCCI IS GOD!!!


Had to be said http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Yeah, he and a few others as well. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Although I don't get one thing. WHY does he wear his guitar so high up? Yeah I suppose it's maybe cause he got used to it that way, but for me, it seems more relaxing to have the guitar a bit lower, like at the hips height or something.

[UnDead_Knight1]

Well, that's something you've gotta ask him, not me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

As for cool guitarists, Buckethead FTW!!!

[DarK_PhoeniX_22]

@Khaled: Couldn't agree more brutha http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Paul Gilbert's cool too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
And Slash has that crazy rocks star look http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif So does Ozzy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

It's just that PG looks more of an average guy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

@Razor: yeh,a good part of his tone comes from his impeccable playing too imo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

Slash's awesome http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and Satch as well http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
And I agree, PG looks like your average Joe, lol, amazing guitarist though

[Mortificus]

well, due to time restrictions and the fact that my boss is starting to make me work more, im not going to be able to start playing an instrument.... thanks for the help though

[DarK_PhoeniX_22]

Khaled: Even Synyster Gates i kinda cool. He doesn't look that emo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Btw http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7C2UwtFSyk http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
1.21 to 1.40 = win http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

Synyster Gates doesn't look emo, he looks quite cool, he isn't that good though.

0.34 Gus G, wooo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[DarK_PhoeniX_22]

Too bad A7X is emo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif But I like their music http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif It isn't the usual everyday song I hear http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif And their clips are cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

They aren't emo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif well, not THAT emo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Agreed on the clips though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[DarK_PhoeniX_22]

They're less emo than other emo bands.
But I dunno,sometimes I find some Trivium lyrics to be pretty emo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif Delivered in a slightly more brutal way than usual emos,but still emo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

[Sandwarrior1990]

Avenged Sevenfold aren't emo. They might be perceived that way by the general, popular audience, but that's not saying much http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I really hate the screaming in their early albums though http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

Well, A7X early albums does have a slight emo influence, but their newer albums don't.

Trivium? emo? what the hell are you smokin man? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

[Robert_1989]

I think you guys are just a bunch of emo's. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Awwww yeah.

[UnDead_Knight1]

I think you guys are just a bunch of emo's.
You do know that doesn't even make sense, right? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

[DarK_PhoeniX_22]

slight emo influence
Slight? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

I might have been to brOOtal these days http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

Yup, slight xD they ain't that emo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

brutality is near

in the form of income tax
I'd rather take a ****ing axe
to my face, blow up this place

with you all in it, I'd do it in a minute


Now this is brutality http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[DarK_PhoeniX_22]

Particularly their drummer's haircut that gives off this emo vibe http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

[Phreaky_McGeek]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/Phreaky_McGeek/KEYBOARDS.jpg

current setup (excuse the horrible webcam quality) - yup, i'm a keytarist http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Razor_Ace]

I don't think Avenged Sevelfold are emo. I havent heard ALL of their albums, but a few songs I DID listen to don't seem to indicate that. Plus, they do have some few harmonized guitar solos which I've liked since Iron Maiden, so solo harmonies are pretty cool in my book.

Besides, people shouldn't get too hung up on which "genre" or "class" their music belongs to and decide to jump into a deffensive, should someone condemn it. Just listen to what pleases you, regardless of the genre labeling. And in most cases, those who judge others are the ones who are most often afraid of falling under that same category they are trying to condemn, hence they resolve to judgmental statements.

[UnDead_Knight1]

Their early stuff were metalcore, with some emo influence, their later stuff are just plain metal though.

And I agree about the genre thing, I only look for the genre cause it helps with finding other bands which I might likely like http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I don't like however when people class their band as something way off their genre, like people calling Linkin Park a metal band http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif


Particularly their drummer's haircut that gives off this emo vibe
Last I checked, the haircut has nothing to do with the sound being produced http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Robert_1989]

Originally posted by Phreaky_McGeek:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/Phreaky_McGeek/KEYBOARDS.jpg

current setup (excuse the horrible webcam quality) - yup, i'm a keytarist http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Some people are just keytarists at heart, and I guess you're one of these people!
Awesome setup. Made any new awesome beats 'n stuff?

[Hirondel]

hey , is anyone of you into indie rock?

np: silver jews - random rules

"In 1984 I was hospitalized for approaching perfection/.../I tell you, they make it so you can't shake hands when they make your hands shake."


re:emo: emo peaked in the mid-90s, most bands nowadays are all so artificial,overproduced and focused on style.very few exceptions.

good emo bands imo were: cap'n jazz, lync, rites of spring, husker du

[Razor_Ace]

The rock concert week is over, but it was the best one ever, especially AC/DC. How many bands can still play for 36 years and put on a show of this kind of awesomeness?

Check out the intro video for the concert. Mindblowing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06qq9mfz31k

[UnDead_Knight1]

lol, poor Angus, and yeah AC/DC are still kickass band after so long, I'm impressed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Razor_Ace]

No train crash can kill Angus. He's invincible. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

And the gig was superb. It's really good to see that they stick to their roots. They still act on the stage the same way they did 20-30 years ago. Angus still puts his signature devil's face with the horns, and Brian Johnson screams as good as ever.

Honestly, I'm thinking they have surpassed Metallica. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

He looks quite cool as a devil http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Yeah, they're still quite awesome on stage http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I wouldn't know, I'll have to catch them both on tour and judge for myself which is better on stage http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[godsmack_darius]

Lol I cant wait to see Metallica with my buds!
Along with Cannibal Corpse and All That Remains

Man if thier are any other metal heads here, say "I"

[UnDead_Knight1]

There are many metalhead, you can pick us up from the currently playing song thread http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Aumis]

Hi everyone. Write through translator, forgive for inexactnesses... Where hear the tune from trailer Prince of Persia: Prodigy Trailer (HD) ? in original or already renamed. The Henna performer? Thank you if someone will help...

[Aumis]

Link in trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKKe0NpatU0

[godsmack_darius]

Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
There are many metalhead, you can pick us up from the currently playing song thread http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Im guessing your one, coz your Avatar looks like The Metallica Symbol

[UnDead_Knight1]

It IS the Metallica symbol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and yeah, I'm one of the biggest metalheads around http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[DarK_PhoeniX_22]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...uRws&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pde9KtFuRws&feature=related)

Slash is mean xD rofl http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

[Razor_Ace]

Thios just goes to show who is a real musician and who's not. If you look carefully, Jackson barely even sings at the right time. I think he was trying to lip sync to his own backing track but it didn't go quite well. Slash on the other hand actually PLAYS.

[UnDead_Knight1]

Micheal Jackson is the most overrated musician in all times, he's a great dancer, but that's all, I know it's all a matter of taste, so can't really argue there, but his voice is pretty standard, nothing special. I find it really funny though how much insecure his fans are, they get ready to fight whenever someone says his voice ain't special, rofl. You don't see me jumping the gun whenever someone says the Misfits had little to no muscial talent, lol


And all those cosmetic surgeries and pedophilia are epic phail http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

[Tristan_129]

So , let's rap up the best Remix of musical history:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7EJ9VUMV

Trust me, if Warrior Within was that close of musical baddassery-oh god, I wonder if there could be remixes of it aswell...

EDIT: Link is legal, it's not actually from a soundtrack and the guy who remixed it offered the link to be spread.

[darkfarah]

Um Khaled, I've been a MJ fan ever since he was in the Jackson 5 and don't feel like fighting someone when they say voice ain't all that. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif Mainly because I didn't care for his voice, I cared about the songs he wrote like "Earth Song" or "Heal the World". http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Now if you've met or seen some MJ fans like that, ok fine, but don't say that were all insecure. I agree he is overrated but think it's because lots of people from around the world love his music and I do mean lots. The man just died so it's not in my nature to speak bad of someone when they died I think it's disrespectful.

Those are awesome remixes trist if WW had some then it wold make me unplug my ears. Not that hate metal or rock they're two of my favorite genres ( I get weird looks for liking them were I live but whatever). I just think WW's music was pretty terrible. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif I am a big DMC fan and I love the music for it.

[Tristan_129]

Dear dear, you don't realize that remixes are capable off. Of course I know that WW has a really...individual style, but still, remaking it could make it more interesting. For example still having the same tones,chores or strings, but only directed on a different course. Maybe someone could remix WW back to the style of SoT or maybe mixing both. Or maybe something more epic. Not sure, but I hated the OST of DMC3. And look what happened.

[darkfarah]

Actually, I do know what remixes are capable of as I have alot of them on my computer. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I would love to hear someone remix SOT and WW music together that would be very interesting. Unlike the majority of people from where I live, I'm very opened minded when comes to music, so if there is a remix I'll gladly give it a chance. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

Oh dear god, I can't even have a nice rant in the musicians' thread...look, I've got nothing against the man, I just said he's overrated, and I never said ALL his fans were like that, but most of them indeed are, in fact most non musicians fans of any artist are like that, not just his, and that's because very little to non (from the non musicians that is) can tell musical talent, most people wouldn't know the huge difference between the talent needed to play a Buckethead song to the "talent" needed to play a Mindless Self Indulgence song. And stop acting as if I was bashing him, saying he was overrated is not even close to bashing.


@Tristan: Did I get the wrong link or something? O_O it gives me DMC remixes O_o

[Tristan_129]

It should give you DMC remixes. I only mentioned that I also would like to have PoP-remixes

[Sandwarrior1990]

Dude, darkfarah's post seemed pretty chilled. If you expect angry responses then that's what you'll see. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Michael Jackson was awesome. I really can't listen to Billie Jean without dancing.

I think it's important to acknowledge musical talent, but the talent itself shouldn't be a sign of good music. There could be a song that was the most complicated piece of music in the world that required an extremely talented and experienced artist to play, but if it's got no feeling in it, it's just a bunch of notes.

That's what I feel every time I see somebody shredding on guitar. Most of the time I don't feel interested, but sometimes - mostly in Dream Theater songs - it clicks. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif It's almost all about the passion for me.

[darkfarah]

@Khaled: I wasn't acting like you were bashing him just because you said he was overrated. If I recall, I actually agreed with you when you said that. Was it because I said I think it's disrespectful to speak bad about someone when they're dead? I guess you thought I was talking about you when said that but honestly, I really wasn't. Me and my sister made fun of him all the time, but now that he's dead, we just think it's disrespectful because that's just how we are. I wasn't refereeing to you, I was just throwing that out there. I live in MJ home town and there alot big MJ fans over here and we never start a fight over something that silly. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Your right, you didn't say all his fans are insecure, but you never said most or some either so I assumed you meant all of us. It was just a simple mistake I guess so I apologize for misunderstanding you. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

@Sandwarrior: Agrees, I feel the exact same way, sometimes I feel half the people playing guitar, are just doing it to look cool. I think some people can tell who's really passionate and serious about it though.

[UnDead_Knight1]

Was it because I said I think it's disrespectful to speak bad about someone when they're dead?
Yup, seems like I misunderstood you, so I apologize for that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I do agree with this though it's kinda disrespectful to bash a person after their death (unless they were really bad like Hitler and such).
You know, when we argue we really should try to find a common language, cause we seem to always misunderstand each other http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif


sometimes I feel half the people playing guitar, are just doing it to look cool.
Half? HALF?!?!?! try most http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

[Razor_Ace]

Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">sometimes I feel half the people playing guitar, are just doing it to look cool.
Half? HALF?!?!?! try most http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Let's not forget that most of us ALSO play guitar cause of the ladies. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Although in this day and age of hip hop, rap and other low quality music, guitar playing is a lot less appreciated than machine generated beats and repeated use of "uhm" yeah" "uh-huh" "yo" and various derogatory and discriminating words.

[UnDead_Knight1]

It's a shame really http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif but then again it makes us good guitarists stand out more http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and finding that sweet girl that likes good music so much more appreciated http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

[Razor_Ace]

Yeah, but from what I've seen, girls who are my age are less responsive to the kind of music I appreciate, older girls on the other hand... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[darkfarah]

Yup, seems like I misunderstood you, so I apologize for that Smile
I do agree with this though it's kinda disrespectful to bash a person after their death (unless they were really bad like Hitler and such).
You know, when we argue we really should try to find a common language, cause we seem to always misunderstand each other Too Happy

People like Hitler I just don't talk about period. I have nothing nice to say about them so don't say anything and I try not to think about them. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif What common language do you suggest lol.


Half? HALF?!?!?! try most Too Happy

At least your not like most of those people Khaled. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Right?


Although in this day and age of hip hop, rap and other low quality music, guitar playing is a lot less appreciated than machine generated beats and repeated use of "uhm" yeah" "uh-huh" "yo" and various derogatory and discriminating words.

This is the truth, I know because I live in a community where the people I grew up with, called rock and metal "white music" and think that anyone who's not white shouldn't be listening to it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif My older brother owns two electric guitars and one acoustic guitar, so I guess I have him to thank for helping me appreciate guitar playing and learn to appreciate good music. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif



Speaking of metal I'm going to get the Dethklok album when it's out. Anyone here a fan of Metalocalypse? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Razor_Ace]

It's funny that they call it "white music" when one of the biggest rock legends was actually an african american.
Next time you hear someone say that, just tell em the above.

[Sandwarrior1990]

There's good rap and hip hop out there, it's just lost in a sea of absolute rubbish that we all know as the mainstream media. It doesn't really enhance the image of a genre if you don't happen to like it yourself, either. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Sometimes I hate my ridiculously wide spread taste in music. There are too many CDs in the world, damnit.

I'm getting back into my guitar practise. I hadn't played properly for a while, I think it was just from getting distracted with other things that happened. But I always find it weird that I don't seem to have lost any of the previous skill I built up, even after so long.

[Razor_Ace]

Well its a bit ironic that really crappy music is actually the one that SELLS most, so the good stuff mostly gets by unnoticed. And of course, there are also people who think that by following the majority and listen to what is popular, they won't stand out. xD

[darkfarah]

@Razor_Ace: I know I learned that in elementary school but even when I did tell them that they still wouldn't listen to rock. You gotta understand that these were the type of kids that thought anything outside of rap/hip hop or R&B just wasn't real music. When came to music they were just ignorant. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

@Sandwarrior: I've been mostly listening to hip hop and rap with positive messages behind them but I don't have alot those types of rap and hip hop songs. I still am open minded about music though I like almost every genre. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[a7xrocker24]

My most recent additions to my collection would be an Ovation Legend and a Jackson RR24 Rhoads.

[Karz1993]

lol i know im late on some of the things im gonna post abt, but better late than never right?

yeah i got a wah pedal, the crybaby GCB 95, and since im a big metallica fan i gotta say its damnnn sweet! lol. i can get that Battery solo tone even with my crappy box amp!

Michael Jackson was a good musician, good dancer, and a humanitarian, but i definately agree he was overrated. Personally i don't care for his music, but it was original. He certainly wasnt a god.

Also, (im gonna burn for this one), i personally never found Slash all to guitar-god like. Sure some of his stuff is good, but i think there are a helluva lot better guitarists out there not getting the attention that guy got lol. John Petrucci, Alexi Laiho, the trivium duo, randy rhoads, synyster gates, chris broderick, marty friedman for example lol. And by opinion, Kirk Hammet too xD

yeah, A7X aren't emo, its just the fact that during their most popular phase they put on all the makeup for live shows and vids, so everyone goes "ewww emo", but their music is far from it.
Haha and yeah syn is a pretty good guitarist imo.

but BUCKETHEAD FTW

[UnDead_Knight1]

Buckethead is one of the best guitarists and dancers I've ever seen in my life http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I agree with you that Slash is a bit overrated, and that those people (except Syn Gates) are all better, but then again most of them are more well known than he is, lol


Yeah, but from what I've seen, girls who are my age are less responsive to the kind of music I appreciate, older girls on the other hand...
Older girls FTW http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif


People like Hitler I just don't talk about period.
You never talk about history? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif


What common language do you suggest lol.
Learn guitar http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif or Japanese http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif


At least your not like most of those people Khaled. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Right?
Of course I'm not http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I always try to improve my guitar playing, though to tell you the truth, I'm quite happy with my current skill. I'm still no where near as good as the other 2 guitarists in my band though (I'm the singer, and guitarist on few songs). Used to be the lead guitarist of my older band, which I still play with sometimes.


called rock and metal "white music"
Even though they're based on Blues? the real "black" music?


Speaking of metal I'm going to get the Dethklok album when it's out. Anyone here a fan of Metalocalypse?
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME!!!!! I love Metalocalypse http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I even got the special edition of the Dethalbum http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Is the release date for the Dethalbum II known yet? I just know it's somewhere in the second half of 2009...
Btw, if you like Metalocalypse you should watch Detroit Metal City http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif it's an anime about a metal band http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[a7xrocker24]

A7X is pretty horrible now, though. Tbh, the only album I thought that was half decent was 'Waking The Fallen'. I used to like them a lot back then. Not so much anymore. Listening to more stuff like Kalmah, Mors Principium Est, etc, these days.

[UnDead_Knight1]

I read that, then looked at your username, then I LOLed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[DarK_PhoeniX_22]

Originally posted by Razor_Ace:
This just goes to show who is a real musician and who's not. If you look carefully, Jackson barely even sings at the right time. I think he was trying to lip sync to his own backing track but it didn't go quite well. Slash on the other hand actually PLAYS.
There aren't really many pop artists who sing live nowadays.They only dance live but they don't sing .

This isn't really something you'd do to someone who's paying you to play for him. But slash decided to own him http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

It's funny to see mj's confused look with all his "aaaaaaah"s expecting slash to stop http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif



Let's not forget that most of us ALSO play guitar cause of the ladies
I actually do it for the love of music and shredding http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif


A7X is pretty horrible now, though. Tbh, the only album I thought that was half decent was 'Waking The Fallen'.
I disagree.They're not really bad.I liked city of evil.It's just that their latest album wasn't really the usual style you'd expect from them.If you consider it as metal,then it is kinda bad or cheesy,but if you listen to it with an open mind,you'll find some interesting tunes.It's just different from the usual stuff you'd listen to everyday.


Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
I read that, then looked at your username, then I LOLed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
lol.
+1 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

And MJ was a good songwriter.Sure,he wrote the relatively simple stuff but the songs were groovy and had a unique feel and that's what makes them stick to your head.

Saying he was teh rgeatest musician ever would be definitely wrong,but he isn't bad either.
Anyway,we could say this argument is similar to when people say that Kurt Cobain is the greatest guitarist ever blabla.. Kurt's a good songwriter and Nirvana's cool,but being able to deliver good songs doesn't necessarily mean you're the greatest musician ever.
And speaking of dead musicians, R.I.P. Dimebag http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

[Razor_Ace]

Originally posted by DarK_PhoeniX_22:

Let's not forget that most of us ALSO play guitar cause of the ladies
I actually do it for the love of music and shredding http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

[/QUOTE]

Yeah, do say that, and ONLY THAT the next time when and if a girl compliments you on guitar playing.

[UnDead_Knight1]

There aren't really many pop artists who sing live nowadays.They only dance live but they don't sing .
That's cause they can't sing without too much voice manipulations http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif


I actually do it for the love of music and shredding
Same here http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif


I disagree.They're not really bad.I liked city of evil.It's just that their latest album wasn't really the usual style you'd expect from them.If you consider it as metal,then it is kinda bad or cheesy,but if you listen to it with an open mind,you'll find some interesting tunes.It's just different from the usual stuff you'd listen to everyday.
Yup, they're quite different, but quite interesting, for me at least.
And MJ was a good songwriter.Sure,he wrote the relatively simple stuff but the songs were groovy and had a unique feel and that's what makes them stick to your head.

Saying he was teh rgeatest musician ever would be definitely wrong,but he isn't bad either.
Anyway,we could say this argument is similar to when people say that Kurt Cobain is the greatest guitarist ever blabla.. Kurt's a good songwriter and Nirvana's cool,but being able to deliver good songs doesn't necessarily mean you're the greatest musician ever.
Yup, that's my point, he's decent, but he's not near the best.
And I always LOL when people say Cobain is the best guitarist ever, lol.


And speaking of dead musicians, R.I.P. Dimebag
RIP Dimebag http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif


Yeah, do say that, and ONLY THAT the next time when and if a girl compliments you on guitar playing.
I always say that, and it usually is followed by appreciation from the girl, if the girl really expects me to play guitar just to impress her I could care less about her, she'll probably leave me anyway for someone "cooler"

For the record, playing for the love of the music makes you learn much faster than learning it just to impress girls. Matt heafy is a proof of that.

[Razor_Ace]

Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:

I always say that, and it usually is followed by appreciation from the girl, if the girl really expects me to play guitar just to impress her I could care less about her, she'll probably leave me anyway for someone "cooler"

For the record, playing for the love of the music makes you learn much faster than learning it just to impress girls. Matt heafy is a proof of that.

And you are NOT supposed to blurt that out or make it obvious that you are trying to impress her. All I'm saying is that there's nothing wrong with enjoying the perks.

[UnDead_Knight1]

I don't say it, I say that I only play cause I love music, which is true, I could care less about impressing girls, but if it happens to impress, then sure, I'll enjoy this bonus.

[Karz1993]

Waking the Fallen is one of my favourite albums, like ever lol. City of evil is damn good too. their self titled is good, but a bit too different. Diamonds in the Rough though, eww *shudders*.

yeah i agree, if i picked up the guitar to impress girls, id probz have quit by now. But i just love the sound, i love metal, and i also like challenges, and yeah guitar playings just my thing, i played for 6 hours the other day without really noticing.

yeah i agree with undead, when i end up impressing anyone i consider it a bonus. If they hate me and wish that i die a horrible death because of what i play, i really couldn't care less. Play to express, not to impress xD

[fallenpenguin]

Khaled already knows this ( http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ), but finally I can walk in here http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

bought this 3 days ago:
Epiphone SG Special Ebony
http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE...y/art-GIT0000811-002 (http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE/EUR/Epiphone-SG-Special-Ebony/art-GIT0000811-002)
Line 6 Spider III 15
http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE...-/art-GIT0009306-000 (http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE/EUR/Line-6-Spider-III-15-/art-GIT0009306-000)
Stand
http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE...r/art-GIT0006247-000 (http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE/EUR/Music-Store-E-Gitarren/-Bass-Staender-verstellbar/art-GIT0006247-000)
ET-68GB
http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE...z/art-ACC0002309-000 (http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE/EUR/Music-Store-ET-68GB-Stimmgeraet/Tuner-Gitarre-Bass-Schwarz/art-ACC0002309-000)

and after a few basic things I started with Knockin' on Heavens Door and well, I'ld say I made some progress http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

//edit:
Originally posted by Razor_Ace:
Although in this day and age of hip hop, rap and other low quality music, guitar playing is a lot less appreciated than machine generated beats and repeated use of "uhm" yeah" "uh-huh" "yo" and various derogatory and discriminating words.
that reminded me of the Guitar Hero-South Park episode: "Real guitars are for old people!"

[Karz1993]

ohh sweet man nice work http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

YOURE ONE OF US NOW, THERES NO ESCAPE MUAHAHAA...i mean...welcome =]

[UnDead_Knight1]

Yeah, you're doomed to be a guitarist for life http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Also, get Guitar Pro program, it's a guitarist's best friend.

[Robert_1989]

YES!

I'll finally have another gig on the 23rd of August. I'll be playing some of my own material, some of which will be recorded!

If one of these videos ends up on youtube, I'll post a link here for those interested.

[UnDead_Knight1]

Cool, playing live is awesome http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Karz1993]

Oh sweet!
yeah thatd be awesome if u got a youtube link up for us :P

Closest thing i've done to a gig was playign with 2 other guitarist friends for our end-of-exchange farewell party...lol...

[fallenpenguin]

great, now I started to write lyrics...Khaled would probably like them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

oh? gimme gimme gimme http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Are they Krauser-sama style? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Angelina_22]

My newest project is to learn how to play this instrument:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e270/Angelina-22/309px-Nyckelharpa_built_by_Eric_Sah.jpg

A swedish keyharp, I do own one which I bought years ago because I always wanted to learn how to play it. It's not an easy instrument, but I'm stubborn so.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

If I learn to play that it will be the 5th instrument I play...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

[fallenpenguin]

Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
oh? gimme gimme gimme http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Are they Krauser-sama style? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
obviously and I'm trying to get a little Tenacious D into it as well http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
It's the tale of an epic journey and I can never fit that into one song, so it's concept album time (yes, I can't play the guitar properly yet http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif)

[UnDead_Knight1]

lol, cool, many bands make entire albums about something epic, or epic journey or such http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Metalium is a good example of this http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[fallenpenguin]

@Khaled:
a friend of mine is thinking about learning how to play Bass guitar and I just wanted to ask, which model you would recommend:
http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE...d/art-BAS0001620-002 (http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE/EUR/Fender-Squier-Affinity-Jazz-Bass-RW-Metallic-Red/art-BAS0001620-002)
http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE...k/art-BAS0002456-000 (http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE/EUR/Epiphone-Les-Paul-Special-Bass-Pitch-Black/art-BAS0002456-000)
or something completely different?
I guess this one would be a fitting amp?
http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE...-/art-GIT0009306-000 (http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE/EUR/Line-6-Spider-III-15-/art-GIT0009306-000)

[Razor_Ace]

First off, your friend needs to know what style he is playing.

Second, Squires are not really good at making basses.

Third That's a guitar amp, so it won't cut it for bass. If you wanna stick with Line 6, you'd need something like this: http://bass-guitars.musiciansf...***-Combo?sku=500270 (http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Line-6-Lowdown-LD15-Laguna-Pack-Bass-Combo?sku=500270)

[UnDead_Knight1]

The amp Razor recommended is solid, as for basses, tell him to get either LTD or Jackson, those are the basses that give the most range in music style, squire ain't really decent...

[fallenpenguin]

I just sat down a little and now I can play the first minute of Chili Peppers - Otherside http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif (well, not perfectly obviously, but good enough for that I played it for the first time although it is one of those songs that doesn't sound that good without the band ^^)

[mornegroth]

Hey, what do you guys think of Steve Vai?
I listened to some of his tracks on youtube at the other day and I must say, I was impressed (never heard of him before http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif. Yes, I live in a mountain alone with goats and my shepard dog)

[Razor_Ace]

He is one of the best guitarists in the world.

If you like him, you'd probably like Paul Gilbert, John Petrucci from Dream Theater, Joe Satriani. They are all pretty much in the same genre.

Also I'd recommend you give Stevie Ray Vaughn a listen cause he was one of the best blues guitarists of all time. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Robert_1989]

For all those interested in my small gig:
Here's the recording! (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=115E3A9E6DA2F5E7)

Last saturday I actually got paid for it, to my total surprise. Which made it TWICE as awesome!

[UnDead_Knight1]

Steve Vai is way overrated, he's got good technique, but that's about it.

[mornegroth]

Originally posted by Razor_Ace:
He is one of the best guitarists in the world.

If you like him, you'd probably like Paul Gilbert, John Petrucci from Dream Theater, Joe Satriani. They are all pretty much in the same genre.

Also I'd recommend you give Stevie Ray Vaughn a listen cause he was one of the best blues guitarists of all time. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It's funny you said Dream Theater, I hear them a lot http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
The rest I already heard one or two tracks but that's it, I gotta give them a real try one day.

Some of my favourites are Eric Johnson(http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif), Jimmy Page, Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton and Slash.

[DarK_PhoeniX_22]

It's funny you said Dream Theater, I hear them a lot
You get my seal of approvalhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Vai's shred gives me too much tension.I can't really keep listening to it throughout the day.He sure is a great guitarist, but I prefer John Petrucci and Paul Gilbert http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Emelie: This things looks badass.Like a cross between a sitar and a violin http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

[mornegroth]

I also enjoy Tokio Hotel, Hanna Montana and The Jonas Brothers

[likeitsme]

Robert... your voice has made me feel like there are a million happy children laughing and playing inside my head and it's a warm sunny day with flowers and happiness and there's nothing that could go wrong or perverse on this earth as long as you keep singing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

Like a cross between a sitar and a violin
That was my first thought too !


I also enjoy Tokio Hotel, Hanna Montana and The Jonas Brothers
Andre at his best http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

[Razor_Ace]

Originally posted by mornegroth:
I also enjoy Tokio Hotel, Hanna Montana and The Jonas Brothers

You're joking, right?

[mornegroth]

Originally posted by Razor_Ace:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mornegroth:
I also enjoy Tokio Hotel, Hanna Montana and The Jonas Brothers

You're joking, right? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm serious http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
They are outstanding pieces of musical art, it even hurts my ears when listening to their angelical tracks.

[stealthero]

Originally posted by mornegroth:
I also enjoy Tokio Hotel, Hanna Montana and The Jonas Brothers

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif *abandons threadhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif*

[Razor_Ace]

Time for a bit of thread revival, don't ya think? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

ANywho, here's my dilemma. I'm getting a Marshall DSL 100 halfstack soon, but I need a good distortion pedal, so I'm trying to chose between Electro Harmonix Metal Muff and Way Huge Fat Sandwich. Both pedals seem really freakin awesome, but it's kinda hard to pick.
I'll take other suggestions into consideration as long as the pedals are ANALOG, so no Boss, Digitech and such. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[UnDead_Knight1]

Ironically, digital ones are better than solid state ones.

[Razor_Ace]

Huh? How's that?
Analog pedals work way better with tube amps, because digital distortion is waaaay to artificial.

[UnDead_Knight1]

Actually, from experience I found that tubes are the best, then digital then solidstate. If you want a solid state pedal, might as well get a solidstate amp with high distortion, and save money for other pedals.

[Razor_Ace]

Fair enough...then which stomp box would you recommend then. And just to keep in mind, I need something that is high quality.

[UnDead_Knight1]

Well, I like Boss MT2 Metal zone the most to be honest.