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Jack.Krauser.
05-10-2007, 01:07 PM
It freakin hurts when you get a base string snap on ya!, trust me!

UnDead_Knight1
05-11-2007, 05:29 PM
The real question shouldn't be if a bass string hurts when it snaps on ya, but how the hell did oyu manage to break a bass string in the first place?

Tatersalad810
05-11-2007, 11:11 PM
Yeah my friend has his bass strings high up away from the fretboard and he never snaps them.

So far I don't think I can snap mine (I bought one on Wednesday.)

UnDead_Knight1
05-13-2007, 04:14 AM
I hardly even snap a guitar string, and I ain't exactly a gentle player http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif so I can't even imagine what they do to snap a bass string >_>
Anyway, congratz on getting that bass http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Jack.Krauser.
05-13-2007, 04:40 AM
I was quite amazed when it snapped. I was playing in a different tune, though. And the string was pretty tightened, and I guess that is why it snapped.

UnDead_Knight1
05-14-2007, 05:58 AM
Wait, so you tuned the bass up? or I just misunderstood you? (sorry, 5 am, kinda tired?)

Jack.Krauser.
05-14-2007, 04:19 PM
Yeah, I tuned it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

UnDead_Knight1
05-15-2007, 12:07 AM
Hmm, I always thought that bass is either tuned standard or tuned down, gotta ask my bassist about this http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Jack.Krauser.
05-15-2007, 04:24 AM
If you want you bass to be slightly higher pitched, then you tune it up, and make it tighter, and thus it is easier to snap.

UnDead_Knight1
05-15-2007, 05:10 AM
Still, I think you'd need more than one step up for it to snap http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Hmmm, what's your style of music?

Jack.Krauser.
05-17-2007, 12:03 PM
Allsorts. Rock, metal, jazz, blues, classical. I play piano, guitar, and drums too.

WildCat-24
05-17-2007, 02:23 PM
Many of you play something? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I play guitar just a little http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
But how long have you been playing?

I started to play violin when i was like 7 years old.. I played it 5 years, but then my teacher changed and I hated that new one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
so i quit... Now i just play guitar.. Nobody have never taught me to do that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif It would be nice to take some lessons.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Jack.Krauser.
05-17-2007, 02:31 PM
I have been playing for about 5 years. I will be 17 in july so I started when I was about 12 years old.

UnDead_Knight1
05-17-2007, 04:28 PM
Have been playing for almost 4 years, all self taught http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

@Jack: Cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, looks like our styles are similiar, though I propably play less jazz than you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Jack.Krauser.
05-18-2007, 07:30 AM
I do freestyle jazz, improvisation and making it up as I go along.

I am self as well btw.

UnaUuru
05-24-2007, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by WildCat-24:
I started to play violin when i was like 7 years old.. I played it 5 years, but then my teacher changed and I hated that new one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
so i quit... Now i just play guitar.. Nobody have never taught me to do that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif It would be nice to take some lessons.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Omigosh! WildCat has funky hair AND played the violin for 5 years!?!?
I think you and I were supposed to meet http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Also, my violin teacher recently acquired an instrument, the name of which sounds like "ood". It's middle eastern. Can anybody tell me how that's supposed to be spelled, and/or direct me to the Wiki article please? Thanks.

EDIT: Nevermind, I found it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oud) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Now, does anyone play an oud? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Robert_1989
05-25-2007, 11:30 AM
I've been practicing some bluesrock riffies lately, and have been getting quite efficient at bending strings, but, according to my girlfriend I make a face when I bend a string. <___<

I apparently lift my lip when I lift a string, but I guess that's just a sign that I 'feel' the music. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

DarK_PhoeniX_22
05-25-2007, 11:53 AM
I apparently lift my lip when I lift a string
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif
I do the samehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Until I realise and keep my mouth closedhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

UnDead_Knight1
05-25-2007, 03:15 PM
According to my gf I look scary when playing black metal http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif if she thinks I'm scary, she should see my dad then http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


@Ruby: I can play an oud http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif though I'm a lil rusty, haven't played one for almost a year

peterk2005
05-27-2007, 09:05 AM
Ok, so I had to post this. We've created a few stuff, demos, tracks, loops, whatever since we had a lot of inspiration lately. We took a few loops from Mixcraft and Fruity Loops and performed them somehow.

We've completed only two tracks so far and I just had to post one of these two since I considered it good. The lyrics are still under construction so don't blame me. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif.. I thought about a topic and that would be graduation. It just somehow fits the atmosphere of the song. Like I said, working on the lyrics.

Check it out:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ukr0pr

Feedbacks would be nice if possible. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif thanks. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sandwarrior1990
05-27-2007, 11:43 AM
that's pretty damn cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

it's a calming song someow... I like the interlude too, nice build up http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

good job!

Phreaky_McGeek
05-27-2007, 12:06 PM
what james said, I've just downloaded it, nice stuff http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

peterk2005
05-27-2007, 12:35 PM
thanks, guys. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

hope we will be doing a lot of good stuff in the future.. but i'm really proud of this song too. glad you like it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Sandwarrior1990
05-27-2007, 01:03 PM
I have a request.

any long time guitar players... Khaled http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif... I would like some song recomendations for me to learn, some songs that aren't easy.. and would challenge me at my current level http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

muchos appreciation http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
05-27-2007, 01:45 PM
Dream Theater: Honor Thy Father
King Diamond: Abigail
Annihilator: WTYD
Exodus: Pihrana
Cannibal Corpse: Frantic Disembowelment
Death: Flesh And The Power It Holds

Sandwarrior1990
05-27-2007, 01:55 PM
why thank you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
05-27-2007, 01:59 PM
np http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
anyway, I'm off to work now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, any more questions, post here, and I'll answer when I get back http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

UnaUuru
05-27-2007, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
Cannibal Corpse: Frantic Disembowelment I have no idea why but that name makes me crack up.

Also, you can really play an oud, Khaled?! That's so cool! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I heard my teacher play his a little, and my mother and eldest sister like to play loud bellydance music which features ouds a lot, so I've heard a bit of what they sound like http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Now, can you do mad crazy shriek-y silly guitar nonsense on one? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

UnDead_Knight1
05-27-2007, 10:53 PM
lol, every Cannibal Corpse song is so brutally named that it makes you crack up http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Yep, I can http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif kinda tradition, as I am middle eastern lol
Well, I can play it fairly well, but like I said, I'm a lil rusty, haven't played one for almost a year http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif they're not exactly easy to find around here http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
I wanna learn the sitar too, I love the sound http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


mad crazy shriek-y silly guitar nonsense
That's called shredding http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif and yeah, I can play it fairly well, guitar is a bit harder imo though

Phreaky_McGeek
05-28-2007, 04:08 AM
w00t, thanks to m_dahaka (I think ¬__¬) 's mad music arranging skillz I can now play the Gears of War theme on the piano (and haven't stopped much to the annoyance of my family)! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Thanks Mathew! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Robert_1989
05-28-2007, 08:37 AM
Ooh! Peter, I like the music! I'm really diggin' those drums!

I've been practicing and fooling around with my singing, trying to get over my dreadful stage fright, and it's working better everyday!

I'm currently practicing a lot of ol' country songs and trying to make some own stuff, so perhaps y'all can enjoy it later on! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

peterk2005
05-28-2007, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Robert_1989:
Ooh! Peter, I like the music! I'm really diggin' those drums!

I've been practicing and fooling around with my singing, trying to get over my dreadful stage fright, and it's working better everyday!

I'm currently practicing a lot of ol' country songs and trying to make some own stuff, so perhaps y'all can enjoy it later on! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Thanks! Told ya from the start we wouldn't be linkin park. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif.. Yeah, maybe you can sing us a few stuff..maybe record? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Robert_1989
05-28-2007, 09:25 AM
PeterK Park featuring Robert Keder - The world is bleeding chocolate


CAN YOU IMAGINE THE AWESOMENESS

peterk2005
06-01-2007, 11:45 AM
Ok, so we had time to concentrate on the hip hop side of our record. We started a few tracks which eventually ended up being nu metal linkin park style. We deleted those and tried to come up with something else.

We fused a few instruments that seemes old-fashioned and that wouldn't be normally used by a nu-metal band. Again we stoppe at Mixcraft and extracted a few loops from there..

This song is the most complex we've done until now. It contains old-school bass, old-school beats, tambourine, drums, percussion, accoustic guitar and some scratches which didn't seem to fit at first but eventually they turned out to be the essential part of the song. So it's an old-school, hip hop/classic rock song:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/eeetcs

Opinions are always welcome http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.. thanks

Robert_1989
06-01-2007, 03:38 PM
I really like the music till this point! I'm especially proud of how you managed to sort of get a sound of your own http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

But there WILL be vocals injected into them songs at some point right? If you manage to nail those, you're in for the big money!

Now, I should finish writing those songs I've been workin' on an conquer the world of angsty teens and 13 year old girls through MYSPACE, and perhaps the sane part of the world by performing in local bars! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Kindred-Souls
06-02-2007, 09:27 AM
I've been playing acoustic for more than a year now. Electric guitars are all i dream about http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

Robert_1989
06-03-2007, 04:53 AM
Originally posted by Kindred-Souls:
I've been playing acoustic for more than a year now. Electric guitars are all i dream about http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

But acoustic is great to learn, because steel strings cut your fingers up goooood http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif If you master those, you'll be Jimmy Page in no time!

DarK_PhoeniX_22
06-03-2007, 11:50 AM
or Stevie Ray Vaughanhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Robert_1989
06-03-2007, 01:39 PM
Or Keitan's mom!

UnDead_Knight1
06-03-2007, 10:35 PM
But acoustic is great to learn, because steel strings cut your fingers up goooood If you master those, you'll be Jimmy Page in no time!
WRONG!!!!

Acoustic and electric require different set of skills altogether http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif


Stevie Ray Vaughan
SRV=amazing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

DarK_PhoeniX_22
06-05-2007, 07:57 AM
SRV=amazing
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Robert_1989
06-09-2007, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
WRONG!!!!

Acoustic and electric require different set of skills altogether http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif



I think you can use 'chords' on an electric guitar as well. It IS true that the strings are completely different, but the basic idea is the same in my experience. Unless you're talking about playing the guitar with your teeth or something. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

peterk2005
06-10-2007, 05:17 AM
It's done! We recorded all instrumentals and wrote the lyrics to all songs. All we have to do now is mix the vocals with the songs and we're ready. Our last track was the introduction of course.

It's the last and only one I'll upload. It's still the demo version because the mic somehow got busted in the middle of the song so you'll hear a weird noise with the bass during the guitar solo. Despite that I think it came out pretty well. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.sendspace.com/file/4ckytm

Trackilistings:

1. Sunrise (intro) (haven't decided the title yet)
2. Close the Door/..And She Left (still working on the title)
3. Cigarettes
4. Dead by Tomorrow/Wake Up Again
5. True Lies/Words Left Unspoken
6. Walk the Line
7. No Words Left to Say/Muted (working on it)
8. War All The Time/Bullet in the Sky
9. Sort it Out (hip hop demo I uploaded here)
10. Spinning in Circles/You'll Miss Me Tomorrow (first demo I uploaded here)
11. Tonight He Comes
12. A Thousand Ways to Say Goodbye
13. Sunset (outro) - still working on this song

Robert_1989
06-10-2007, 05:38 AM
Whoa! That is one awesome intro Peter http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

I am Baffled!

Forgive my scepticness in the beginning, you guys are going to be BIG!

UnDead_Knight1
06-11-2007, 02:59 AM
I think you can use 'chords' on an electric guitar as well. It IS true that the strings are completely different, but the basic idea is the same in my experience. Unless you're talking about playing the guitar with your teeth or something.

It isn't just about the strings...the whole way you hold the guitar is different...the basic idea is also the same for bass and banjo, but if you master one instrument it doesn't mean you're good on the other instrument, unless you practice on that particular instrument...catch my drift?

Robert_1989
06-11-2007, 04:02 AM
Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:

It isn't just about the strings...the whole way you hold the guitar is different...the basic idea is also the same for bass and banjo, but if you master one instrument it doesn't mean you're good on the other instrument, unless you practice on that particular instrument...catch my drift?

Ooh! I catch your drift! I recall finding it nearly impossible to play the electric while sitting down because it was so heavy and thin and kept falling over, but now I'm rockin' it biped-style! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sorry for my ignorance, but I thought: "D00d, it's not like it's a completely different INSTRUMENT OMG"

DarK_PhoeniX_22
06-11-2007, 09:22 AM
King Diamond: Abigail
I'm finding it pretty easy.

@ James:Most of Dying in your arms is pretty easy as wellhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ravenstar-1
06-11-2007, 08:09 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif hello to all. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

zgubilici
06-11-2007, 11:31 PM
ravenstar - please use the chat thread from now on for casual and off-topic discussions - if you post in a different thread than the chat thread, please stick to the discussion topic.
Thanks.

UnDead_Knight1
06-12-2007, 03:48 AM
@Rob: Some people actually consider acoustic and electric 2 different instruments (I don't http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif)

@Keitbag: The opening riff isn't that easy in Abigail http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif and the solo is very technical, but yeah, teh rest could be considered easy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Robert_1989
06-12-2007, 05:21 AM
I think I, at this moment, prefer the acoustic guitar. The guitar I have at the moment has a really awesome sound and isn't too difficult to play, and it's the perfect vessel for me to play the type of songs I 'do' at this point.

But, when it comes to rock, I guess nothing beats an electric. Unless, of course, one was to beat an electric guitar with a large rock. That'd definitely beat an electric guitar, but is totally besides the point here.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif IN OTHER NEWS I AM WRITING SONGS ALSO AND WHEN I FINALLY MAKE A SONG I AM SATISFIED WITH I WILL LET Y'ALL KNOW!

DarK_PhoeniX_22
06-12-2007, 07:55 AM
@ Khaled: Usually my main problems with songs are remembering the exact notes and playing chords.

UnDead_Knight1
06-13-2007, 04:46 AM
Yeah I have that problem too when playing fast (DAMN YOU DREAM THEATER!!!!)
Chords are a pain in the *** http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

DarK_PhoeniX_22
06-13-2007, 08:17 AM
Chords are a pain in the ***
Agreed.
And also on the fingershttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Well.I end up improvising when I can't remember anythinghttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

UnDead_Knight1
06-13-2007, 02:13 PM
And also on the fingers
Yeah...especially barre chords >_<


Well.I end up improvising when I can't remember anything
Yeah, improvising is the smart way to do it, you could also act as if it's the guitar's fault, and smash it, ofcourse it's better to do it on someone's head, or else, you might scratch the floor

DarK_PhoeniX_22
06-15-2007, 09:50 AM
act as if it's the guitar's fault, and smash it
I don't think that is very professionalhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
Besides,a bad workman blames his tools...

Sandwarrior1990
06-15-2007, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by DarK_PhoeniX_22:
Besides,a bad workman blames his tools...
amen to that, brutha http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Anywhos, I finally found the perfect spot for my pinch harmonics.
Now I just gotta practise the actual pinch harmonics themselves AND switching between regular riffs and p.h. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif wooo

DarK_PhoeniX_22
06-15-2007, 10:57 AM
^ I have yet to practise these. I always thought these screaming notes were due to a tremolo or something like that but they aren'thttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

UnDead_Knight1
06-15-2007, 04:00 PM
Well, the Dimebag ones are http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif, there's a video of Dimebag explaining how to do it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif


EDIT: Here it is http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bmou13DGyk)

DarK_PhoeniX_22
07-06-2007, 09:40 AM
I don't have a whammy bar xD.
Besides,I have problems with using a pickhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
I play more fluently with my fingers but I can't really get very fast with them onlyhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

UnDead_Knight1
07-06-2007, 10:09 AM
Well, only practicing with a pick will make you play better with a pick http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

DarK_PhoeniX_22
07-06-2007, 12:03 PM
yehhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

My pinch harmonics are getting slightly better http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
Does anyone have a good video of where someone explains well how to do it without spending hours talking about his life and how he disturbs his neighbours with that technique?

Razor_Ace
09-05-2007, 08:11 AM
Man this thread is DEAD! Come on people where's all that musical enthusiasm? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif Shame on you all.
>_>

Anywho I thought I'd bring up something new see if it might stir things up around here a bit. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

To make it brief, this is sort of a guess a riff game. Someone posts a riff that is typical for a song. And others try to guess it. The one who guesses posts his own riff and so on. Thought it might be fun. So I'll start...


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Sandwarrior1990
09-05-2007, 08:53 AM
I am allowing this behaviour in this thread http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
you should consult the thread master first! >_>
though, if you're gonna do it, only post a few bars, 'cause it drags the page out a bit http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

anyway, easy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Holier Than Thou http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

here's mine:

|----------7--------------------------------------|
|----------7--------------------------------------|
|----------7--------------------------------------|
|-------------------------------------------------|
|--7h9-9-9---7-7h9-7-7--9--9--7h9--9-7-7-7-7-7-7--|
|--7---7-7---7-7---7-7-10-10-10---10-9-9-9-7-7-7--|

Razor_Ace
09-05-2007, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by Sandwarrior1990:
I am allowing this behaviour in this thread http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
you should consult the thread master first! >_>


Meh like anyone cares.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif I answer to noone. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
And damn straight it shall be allowed! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif



anyway, easy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Holier Than Thou http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Right on! What are you waiting for? A cookie!
Post the next riff.

DarK_PhoeniX_22
09-06-2007, 09:11 AM
where's all that musical enthusiasm?
err...we're spending it on the musical instrument rather than posting herehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
lol

Sandwarrior1990
09-06-2007, 09:17 AM
yeah, hahaha http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

and I doubt this game is gona be a hit >_>
waaaaay too much variety to be posted http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Razor_Ace
09-06-2007, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by DarK_PhoeniX_22:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">where's all that musical enthusiasm?
err...we're spending it on the musical instrument rather than posting herehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
lol </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Smartass...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

If you're THAT dedicated to playing then why are you still hangin around here? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Dang. Shoulda stayed on me forum leave. Nothing can bring this place back from the dead it seems. Ah well...

UnDead_Knight1
09-06-2007, 11:38 AM
and I doubt this game is gona be a hit >_>
waaaaay too much variety to be posted

Maybe if you give hints? or atleast npm (makes it easier to just cheat and use Guitar Pro http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif)? lol

Sandwarrior1990
09-06-2007, 12:37 PM
npm? >_______>

Razor_Ace
09-06-2007, 12:47 PM
I think he means notes per min, as in ze tempo
<_<

Sandwarrior1990
09-06-2007, 01:01 PM
oh, I can't really be arsed to go back and check that XD

someone else can go now >_>

Robert_1989
09-06-2007, 01:01 PM
It's useless! If I posted a song you'd never guess it, just like I'll probably never guess any of these songs! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

DarK_PhoeniX_22
09-07-2007, 07:30 AM
U gotta play it to have a better ideahttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

UnDead_Knight1
09-07-2007, 08:20 AM
Or just guitarpro it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif


-----------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------12
-----10------10-12-10-12-10-13-10-12-10-12h13----
-12------12-----------------------------------------


Standard E, 1/4 notes at 120 npm

Sandwarrior1990
09-07-2007, 09:03 AM
I know it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

but I can't be bothered to find a new one, so I'll let somebody else guess it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
09-07-2007, 11:05 AM
I thought you'd know it, since you're a huge fan of them (like me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

Razor_Ace
09-07-2007, 01:48 PM
It sounds A BIT familiar, but I can't really identify it. A few more bars might help. >_>

UnDead_Knight1
09-07-2007, 03:01 PM
Ok http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif


----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------0-----------------------------------------
---------------------0-1-2-------------------0-1-0--------0-1-0------
-0-0--0--0--0--0--0-----------0-0--0--0--0---------3-3---------3-1--

Sandwarrior1990
09-08-2007, 06:22 AM
I LOVE playing that bit http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

sounds so damn cool

UnDead_Knight1
09-08-2007, 01:25 PM
HELL YEAH, one of my favorite licks of all time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

DarK_PhoeniX_22
09-13-2007, 12:35 PM
Hey guys,does anyone know if that song "Path" by Apocalyptica is a song they covered just like most of their songs or whether it is one of their original compositions?

Sandwarrior1990
09-13-2007, 01:20 PM
that's original shizzle of theirs http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

awesome, right?

and their albums are mostly made of their own songs now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Razor_Ace
09-13-2007, 01:43 PM
LED ZEPPELIN is going to hold a reunion concert in London November 26th.

Another news is that there will be a new double CD with some old remasters and bonus previously unreleased material.

http://www.led-zeppelin.com/news/

DarK_PhoeniX_22
09-16-2007, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by Sandwarrior1990:
that's original shizzle of theirs http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

awesome, right?

and their albums are mostly made of their own songs now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Yephttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
They're awesomehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif That's why I wanna try an dplay em' on the guitarhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifIf they can play guitar tunes on their cellos then I guess we can play cello tunes on our guitarshttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Phreaky_McGeek
12-16-2007, 06:07 AM
HAY YOU GUYTH

I've recently got a new amp (a 40 watt Stagg, probably not what guitarists would choose but it gave a much nicer tone to analogue synth presets than other keyboard-designed amps) for my keyboard, which is really beginning to show its age. What would anyone recommend for someone on a tight budget?

I've had a look around, Korg don't seem to have much to offer, Yamaha keyboards don't really do much for the price tag and Roland keyboards are nearly all 61 keys.

I'm on a tight budget, and I've found two Rolands at around £350 that I like the look of, but they're both 61 keys. They've got far more control over sound sets than my current Yamaha (actually my sister's due to... experimenting on my old one at a band practice once http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif) so I'm sure I could take it down an octave easily but it's not always possible.

I'm also considering getting it second hand, as my mum recently picked up clarinet for the first time in twenty odd years (turns out she was grade 8 and was a tutor which she somehow failed to mention to me), and got a second hand ebony Yamaha for £400 cheaper than the original price tag, and the only mark is a tiny scratch on the mouthpiece. If I can get hold of a second hand synth for that kind of reduction and polish it up, I could leave some cash in the bank for when I can get substantial.

^this is just me rambling, but please help >__> most instruments I've ever owned have been passed down/gifts so I'm kind of new to the whole concept of finding the right one for me.

UnDead_Knight1
12-16-2007, 08:18 AM
Uhm, go to a music store and try different ones? that really is the best way to find out which one suits you best

DarK_PhoeniX_22
12-17-2007, 05:58 AM
and that tab by Khaled was 'cowboys from hell' by pantera right? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

MetalHead419
12-18-2007, 04:17 PM
We have a winner! Now, think up a new one so that I can be the first to post the answer.

UnDead_Knight1
12-18-2007, 07:43 PM
Bout time, lol

DarK_PhoeniX_22
12-19-2007, 12:46 PM
ok,easy one:
<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">
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B||---------------------------|---------------------------|
G||--12-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-|--10-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-|
D||---------------------------|---------------------------|
A||---------------------------|---------------------------|
E||---------------------------|---------------------------|


--------------------------|-----------------------|------|
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--8-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-|--7-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0----|------|
--------------------------|-----------------------|------|
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---------------------------|---------------------------|
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--12-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-|--10-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-|
---------------------------|---------------------------|
---------------------------|---------------------------|


--------------------------|-----------------------|
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--8-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-|--7-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0----|
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</pre>


What can you peeps tell me about chord progressions btw?

Razor_Ace
12-19-2007, 12:53 PM
Playing certain chords in an order, or sequence. Kinda like playing chords that consist of notes which belong to the same scale.

DarK_PhoeniX_22
12-19-2007, 01:26 PM
thx

Robert_1989
12-19-2007, 01:35 PM
Songs are made up out of chord progressions and stuff!

EDIT:

Chord Progressions are called progressions because they 'go' somewhere. The most basic chord progressions are Blues Schemes.
You start, for example, in E, then go to A, and then there's a B7 chord to leave you hanging... and the E chord wraps it up and leaves you satisfied. You can't end on B7, because it's like telling a good joke, but leaving out the punchline!

Hope this helps!

C-F-G
D-G-A
E-A-B
F-A#-C
G-C-D

You can find out which chords 'belong' together by trying it out on a piano! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
The Chords that you can most basically use to make a basic song are the first note of a scale, the fourth, the fifth (For example E is the first note, the fourth in this case the A, and the fifth is the B, which you can play as a seventh to make the crowd extra curious about the punchline!) And finish on the first!

I hope you get what I talk! (?!)

EDIT2: You sort of have to see Chord Progressions as stories, but not stories in word but in music. You have Major chords, which have a happy feeling, minor chords which have a sad feeling, and the more complicated chords like 7th chords which 'lead up to something', and Maj7th which sound very melancholic.

For example, if you start in C, and then go to Aminor from this C, it gives the story a sad event, but if you continue with F and G, it sort of gets a hopeful continuation, and if you then bring it on home to the C, the story has a happy ending, and your 'joke' has a punchline!

HOPE THIS HELPS! I'm a very emotional musician and this always helps me understand music! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif You should see the face I make when I play minor.

DarK_PhoeniX_22
12-20-2007, 11:37 AM
Thx Robhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Gypsy816
08-17-2008, 09:53 PM
This caught my eye. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Started with Piano as a kid, dropped it for violin and viola. Picked it back up, got fascinated with the harp until I found out how much a good one costs. Some guitar but not enough to really count. I want to get back to piano. I'm sure I can find someone to teach me. I have forgotten how to read bass clef. I know, I know.

UnDead_Knight1
08-18-2008, 10:07 AM
Musicians are always welcome http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif most people here are metalheads and rockers though, and are mainly guitarists (woohoo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) though I think James plays piano also, so you can chat with him http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Or chat with the rest about music theory and what not http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Angelina_22
08-18-2008, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
most people here are metalheads and rockers though, and are mainly guitarists (woohoo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) though I think James plays piano also, so you can chat with him http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Or chat with the rest about music theory and what not http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Me I'm not one of those "most people" though.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Nope definitely not a so called metalhead...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

Nice to see a fellow pianoplayer here Gypsy!http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I've been playing the piano since I was 11...which means I've been playing it for...*arghh maths!*...15 years now.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I also took guitarlessons for a few years, so I know enough of it to be able to play a bit while I sing with the kids at the kindergarten. But I'm not a guitarist so to speak, I don't play any solos or such stuff. Just a few chords to get me by.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I also play a bit of african drums, and the accordeon as well (which I play swedish folklore on). Then I also own an instrument which I WANT to be able to play, it's an instrument called a keyharp. It has an amazing sound and it is very beautiful to listen to if the person holding it knows how to play. At the moment I'm not one of those people, my keyharp is currently just gathering dust...

Next time I'm on my own computer I'll upload a pianofile I have with me playing and maybe post it here.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

FableB
08-18-2008, 03:44 PM
I play the Arabian drum. I always liked to drum on any surface ever since I was a little kid, and I carried that habit with me until I learned how to actually play on a drum. My father bought me a violin and told me to try and learn it, but alas, it's still there, brand new and untouched.

Gypsy816
08-18-2008, 07:45 PM
Yes please do Angelina!

African drums are awesome. My friend plays them pretty well so I enjoy listening to her.

And like I said, can't do bass clef... for shame.

Not sure I have ever heard Arabian drums but it sounds cool!

spazzoo1025
08-18-2008, 07:48 PM
I'm learning to play guitar on my dad's old classical one, but i really wanna play drums. i just need a job so i can afford a drum set D:

Razor_Ace
08-19-2008, 02:48 AM
Ahh the good ol Musician's thread. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And on that note, drums are AWESOME TO PLAY! Really enjoying it.
On my band's jamming sessions, I often pick up the drumsticks and learn to play a couple of stuff, and I must say it's helluva fun, and the bets part is, I'm catching up pretty quickly, so with enough practice, I could probably consider being a drummer as well at some point.
My primary interest is of course the guitar, but if I ever gather enough cash to buy a drumkit, even a digital one, I'd do it.

Angelina_22
08-19-2008, 03:15 AM
Originally posted by Gypsy816:
Yes please do Angelina!

African drums are awesome. My friend plays them pretty well so I enjoy listening to her.

Yeah I'll let you guys have a listen when I have it uploaded.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I love playing the african drums, and it's especially fun if you do it in a group.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I've never been that fond of the regular drums which Razor's talking about, with the sticks and all...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif But that might have something to do with the fact that I'm not very good at coordinating myself with the two sticks...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif Drumming with hands is so much easier for me for some reason.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

One thing I would love to be able to play on my accordeon is traditional irish folkmusic...I love listening to it. And it sounds really fun to play!http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif But apparently it's supposed to be quite tough when you're used to the swedish type of folkmusic. They have very different beats or something...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Razor_Ace
08-19-2008, 03:41 AM
It IS actually easier with hands, but a regular drum kit has a lot more elements than African drums, which normally come in pairs, but with a regular drum kit you have a lot more drum pieces like snare, hi-hat, bass drum(s), and any number of toms and cymbals you can think of putting together. Plus, you also have to use your feet. But that is the whole fun of it. And it is also a pretty good workout in a way. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Angelina_22
08-19-2008, 10:30 AM
He he, yeah like I said no wonder one has trouble with the coordination when there are so many different pieces of the drumkit.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
I always found it tough that the bassdrum controlled by the foot, and the left hand has their own beats meanwhile the hi-hat usually has a much faster one which you have to do at the same time with your right hand...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif I know I know...it takes practise.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif But it seems I'm just not patient enough, and I already have so many other instruments going so I just don't see the need to learn one which I'm not really that interested in learning.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

But yeah the exercise bit is good I suppose, drummers are usually a bit sweaty after they've played a bit so I suppose it does have some effect...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Razor_Ace
08-19-2008, 10:49 AM
It's no trouble at all. Every section of the song has specific drum parts you have to hit. You don't hit ALL of them. I find drum coordination a lot easier than guitar coordination, at least on beginner level. I remember how I had to work with coordination when I started playing guitar 2 years ago. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
There isn't really any other way to control it, and it's not hard. You just have to find a good position for your foot and just hit it in a rhythmic pace. That's all. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Well as far as the instruments I'm playing, guitar is primary, and drums are secondary. I'm also considering a bass which shouldn't be really that hard.

Hehe, is THAT what you notice when you see a drummer? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
08-19-2008, 11:15 AM
I find drum coordination a lot easier than guitar coordination

Indeed, mastering drums can be done in relatively short time as well http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif


But yeah the exercise bit is good I suppose, drummers are usually a bit sweaty after they've played a bit so I suppose it does have some effect...

Well, there's a reason why most drummers are shirtless most of the time...

Razor_Ace
08-19-2008, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:


Indeed, mastering drums can be done in relatively short time as well http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif


I know man. And I really wanna play drums. I'd even settle for a digital set but I kinda lack the money, AND space, especially since I'm considering buying some REAL guitar gear now. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

UnDead_Knight1
08-19-2008, 11:20 AM
Don't ever EVER get a digital set, trust me on this one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

So what amp you planning on getting? you don't really need all those effects in the rack, just the amp, and few decent stompboxes/pedals http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Razor_Ace
08-19-2008, 11:49 AM
If I had a house all to myself and not an apartment with all the lousy musically intolerant neighbours, OF COURSE I'd get an acoustic set. I DO know the difference, but it's just not an option right now. At least not till I move out of the appartment building.

There's this dude here who is selling a Mesa Quad preamp. This one is as you know, the heart and soul of the Justice album tone, (my favorite Metallica album btw). The price is pretty good (for Norwegian market). As I can't afford the triaxis, this is the second best choice. And It can provide me any of those awesome boogie tones. Everything from warm smooth blues to to tight rhythm and searing juicy lead tones. SOME would even say that this preamp is better than the triaxis. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

And no I'm not planning on getting any effects at all, except maybe for an EQ, but Quad already has one. I just want a very clean, simple rack.
When I get this one I'll run it through a solid state power amp section (through the return jack in the FX loop) of a combo I got recently, until I save enough money for a decent poweramp. Either VHT or a Mesa again. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
08-19-2008, 12:17 PM
That would be a sweet rack http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I like both the triaxis and the Quad the same tbh http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Get either a Mesa or a Marshall power amp, well worth it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif but yeah, having a simple rack is the best http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif costs less, and the tone sounds more...natural http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Anyhow, you might want to have a Dunlop Wah Wah pedal as a Metallica fan...

Razor_Ace
08-19-2008, 12:30 PM
There are actually several good reasons to prefer the Quad over a triaxis:
- Built in EQ
- Tube Reverb
- Absolutely no digital elements (Triaxis as you know has a digital interface)
- More tubes in the Quad. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif The more tubes you have, the more GODLY the tone gets
- Costs less

Although Triaxis is better when it comes to space and weight if that is of a lot of importance.

A Marshall poweramp would be good to get the Master of puppets tone as they DID use a Marshall power section in conjunction with a Boogie Mark 2c+ (which is one of the channels on the quad and the triaxis)

Yeah Dunlop woulda been great, but I also heard from some people that if you get a VOX wah, it would be better, but it needs to be modded in order to make it really "talk". http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
08-19-2008, 01:23 PM
Well, it all comes down to preference, though the triaxis is a bit more versatile, but if you know the tone you want, and you can get it from the Quad, get it, would be cheaper http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
The triaxis digital interface doesn't interfere with the tone though, just makes it easier to dial up tones you came up with before http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I wouldn't go with the Vox, needs too much modding, the Dunlop comes ready http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif and there are modded ones ready for purchase http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Gypsy816
08-19-2008, 02:58 PM
I'm with you on the coordination problem Angelina heh. My mom can play drums but I can't really see it being an easy thing to master quickly. I mean, hello John Bohnam. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

spazzoo1025
08-19-2008, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by Razor_Ace:
Ahh the good ol Musician's thread. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And on that note, drums are AWESOME TO PLAY! Really enjoying it.
On my band's jamming sessions, I often pick up the drumsticks and learn to play a couple of stuff, and I must say it's helluva fun, and the bets part is, I'm catching up pretty quickly, so with enough practice, I could probably consider being a drummer as well at some point.
My primary interest is of course the guitar, but if I ever gather enough cash to buy a drumkit, even a digital one, I'd do it.

There's a special edition Rock Band 2 drum kit coming out that works both for Rock Band and as a fully-functioning electronic drumset. I think it's about $300 though D:

Razor_Ace
08-22-2008, 03:13 AM
Metallica's new single The Day that never comes.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4SXlMY3NjVk&feature=related

Thoughts?

UnDead_Knight1
08-22-2008, 05:04 AM
Hell yeah, it's awesome http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif the new album is gonna rock http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But that's to be expected now that Bob Rock is out of the picture http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Razor_Ace
08-22-2008, 07:16 AM
It's definitely an improvement over St Anger no doubt about it. Some parts really sound good while others could have been better. There's one that even reminded me a bit of To live is to die.

One MAJOR upside though is to hear the solos are back, and there's a pretty good deal of harmony as well. The guitar sound has improved a bit, but it can't really rival the 80s sound. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Angelina_22
08-23-2008, 05:17 AM
Originally posted by Razor_Ace:
It's no trouble at all. Every section of the song has specific drum parts you have to hit. You don't hit ALL of them. I find drum coordination a lot easier than guitar coordination, at least on beginner level. I remember how I had to work with coordination when I started playing guitar 2 years ago. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
There isn't really any other way to control it, and it's not hard. You just have to find a good position for your foot and just hit it in a rhythmic pace. That's all. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Well as far as the instruments I'm playing, guitar is primary, and drums are secondary. I'm also considering a bass which shouldn't be really that hard.

Hehe, is THAT what you notice when you see a drummer? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

No trouble at all eh??http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Well you know nothing is hard when you know how to do it...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif He he, no way! In my opinion learning to play the guitar was not so much a challenge when it comes to coordination, the challenge was more being able to press the strings hard enough with my left hand to make it sound good.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif It took a while before the skin thickened on those left hand fingers...before it did it could be quite painful to practise.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif I suppose the rythmic pace is where I get into trouble then with the drums.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif The foot and the left hand is no trouble, but adding the right hand to the hi-hat....that's where I get into trouble.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I've tried the bass a bit, but found it quite boring really, not my type of instrument I suppose.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif Still you don't want to play in a band where there is no bass, it sure make a huge difference. So the bass is great, I just don't really enjoy being the one playing it.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Aha I see, so what alterior motives do you have when it comes to the choice of instruments I wonder?http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gifConsidering you know it's a well known fact that the guys playing the drums and the bass get all the girls...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Razor_Ace
08-23-2008, 05:38 AM
You should have started with an electric guitar then. Acoustic guitars are pretty hard to learn for beginners as they have many limitations sort of speak. Higher action, bigger body, thicker strings.
Then again I dunno what your playing style is. If you are a strummer, then acoustic is fine, but if you wanna play licks and riffs and such, you should go over to an electric. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

It took me about 15 minutes of constant practice to get the hang of it. Turned out quite fine, but I wouldn't say I'm a drummer just yet. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Bass is a great instrument. And FAR from boring, but then again I dunno what you've been playing. If you play just one note all the time to make the beat, then yeah that's boring, so with the bass you need to have variety and style. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Here I will speak on behalf of all guitarists out there. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif xD It comes down to three basic things: chicks music and chicks.

I think you've been misinformed on that one. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Guitarists get the most female attention. Bass is fine and all, but to quote Dave Mustaine, guitar is the weapon of choice. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
08-23-2008, 07:17 AM
You should have started with an electric guitar then. Acoustic guitars are pretty hard to learn for beginners as they have many limitations sort of speak. Higher action, bigger body, thicker strings.
Exactly, I hate how non guitarists always say that if you want to be a guitarist you should start with an acoustic, and later move to electric, and they even argue that with guitarists who've been playing for years, wtf? lol
That said, you shouldn't pick up the electric or acoustic cause it's easier to learn, but pick up the one that YOU want to play the most, for example, if you see yourself playing mostly rock and metal, you should pick up the electric, but if you want to play country music, you should pick up the acoustic. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


Bass is a great instrument. And FAR from boring, but then again I dunno what you've been playing. If you play just one note all the time to make the beat, then yeah that's boring, so with the bass you need to have variety and style.
Well, yeah, if you just play the one-note-version-of-the-guitarist-lick it's gonna be boring, but if you play some Dream Theater for example, it really is awesome http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif although, playing DT IS pretty damn hard >_> I can't do the more complicated bass lines in their songs O_o


Here I will speak on behalf of all guitarists out there. Razz xD It comes down to three basic things: chicks music and chicks.
Don't forget money xD


I think you've been misinformed on that one. Razz Guitarists get the most female attention. Bass is fine and all, but to quote Dave Mustaine, guitar is the weapon of choice. Mean Happy Razz
Indeed, especially in rock and metal, cause the guitar is the dominant instrument, even compared to vocals.

But then again, Dave Mustaine's ex-gf is now married to the man that took his job...

Angelina_22
08-23-2008, 07:44 AM
Actually I prefer the acoustic guitar to the electric one, before I owned both an acoustic and an electric one with the amp and all. But then later I sold my electric guitar to my cousin, I just like the acoustic one better.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif And it's also the kind of instrument you can bring with you almost anywhere...outdoors and so on. I don't know exactly what a strummer is, but that is probably what I might be since I'm not the other option...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Indeed, bass is a great instrument. But as I said, not one I'm interested in playing. I guess I prefer instruments with more melody and such...can't explain it really.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif But I like instruments where I don't have to depend on other instruments to make it interesting. Piano is one of those instruments in my opinion.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ha ha, strange.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif I saw a documentary once where they tried to find the reason for why ladies are so much more drawn to the bassplayer and the drummer, the documentary was all about trying to explain what the particular attraction was. And I must say I have seen this tendency when I've been to clubs where there have been live bands.

But then again I don't know what it's like in the Metal genre really, so I'll take Khaled's word for the fact that he gets loads of female attention then.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Speaking of country music, a real "guitar hero" is definitely Dolly Parton - how on earth she manages to play with those nails!!!http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Razor_Ace
08-24-2008, 11:58 AM
Who says you can't make a melody on a bass? There's lots of tallented bassist out there that can literally play a bass like a guitar.

Well if the guitarist is bad, then yeah the girls would choose the other 2 guys. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif But in a way, the guitar stands out from other instruments. It is the most noticeable, especially if you are a lead guitarist.

UnDead_Knight1
08-24-2008, 12:29 PM
There's lots of tallented bassist out there that can literally play a bass like a guitar.
Cliff Burton http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif


Well if the guitarist is bad, then yeah the girls would choose the other 2 guys. Razz But in a way, the guitar stands out from other instruments. It is the most noticeable, especially if you are a lead guitarist.
Indeed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif


how on earth she manages to play with those nails!!!
Fake nails, bad technique, or no respect for the fretboard http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Razor_Ace
08-24-2008, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">There's lots of tallented bassist out there that can literally play a bass like a guitar.
Cliff Burton http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif


Well if the guitarist is bad, then yeah the girls would choose the other 2 guys. Razz But in a way, the guitar stands out from other instruments. It is the most noticeable, especially if you are a lead guitarist.
Indeed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif


how on earth she manages to play with those nails!!!
Fake nails, bad technique, or no respect for the fretboard http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, him amongst many. Jason Newsted in my opinion was and STILL IS incredibly good with bass. I recently started watching his really old videoes with Metallica. Some dating way back to 1986. His bass solo segments were just brilliant, and I mean people can ***** all they want about the playing style. I say the pick playing style gives him a sort of a cutting edge kind of sound which I really dig. And all the comparrisons between him and Cliff. Yeah CLiff is good, but saying Jason is bad as he succeeded Cliff is like saying Hammett sucks compared to Hendrix. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

I haven't heard much of her. Country isn't my style, but after a bit of searching on youtube, you are 100% right. Really horrible. xD

UnDead_Knight1
08-24-2008, 02:53 PM
Yup, Jason is a great bass player, and personally, I think the his picking style actually suits Metallica pretty well. People usually ***** at Jason just cause Metallica treated him badly, many of those that criticize him don't even know how to play bass, and thus have no way of knowing how good he really is.
Well, that depends on which Hendrix you're talking about, cause Jimi's brother sucks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

I haven't heard anything from her, I can't stand country music, I just stated the only ways I could think of that someone could play a guitar with nails. But, meh, it's country, it doesn't require much talent anyhow, lol

Razor_Ace
08-24-2008, 03:01 PM
My thoughts exactly. Nothing further to add.
There's only ONE Hendrix. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Playing guitar with nails sounds UNNATURAL and crude, plus its bad for the instrument. And well I gotta agree, country isn't really my cup of tea. Blues, and beyond for me. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

UnDead_Knight1
10-12-2008, 02:47 PM
Shinigami guitar from ESP http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif costs $20k, but looks freaking sweet http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2008/02/01/shinigami_48.jpg


Whoever got this is one lucky bastard http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Gypsy816
10-12-2008, 07:37 PM
That guitar is crazy!!

BSoD
10-12-2008, 08:31 PM
Holy... thats is one freaking sick guitar. COOOLLLL!!!!!

Metaalhoofd
10-13-2008, 10:57 AM
i play bass guitar ^^ im not very good yet tho but i play for like 2 months now so thats not very surprising...
I have a pretty standard guitar, yknow, a beginner model, good for learning it but
THIS (http://www.ibanezregister.com/images/BASSES/images-sr/sr885/sr885bk-92.jpg) is the guitar im pretty much in love with http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif IWANTIT!!
i started with playing Rage Against The Machine songs, easy and fun to play ^^
unfortunately im not (yet) in a band, wich kinda sucks... i dont even know people around to jam with :s

UnDead_Knight1
10-13-2008, 01:39 PM
Sweet bass, RATM rocks ^^ if you like bass, listen to Primus, they need some getting used to, but once you get used to them they're addictive http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and the bassline is always awesome (it's actually on higher volume than the guitar!!)


That guitar is crazy!!

Holy... thats is one freaking sick guitar. COOOLLLL!!!!!

Indeed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and that's only one of their many super awesome guitars, I love ESP, the only awesome non American guitar maker http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, but they're Japanese, so it's no wonder http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Razor_Ace
10-13-2008, 04:27 PM
On the guitar...woah...that is really off the hook. Like how they made the cracked wood so authentic. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Speaking of basses, since our band doesn't have a bass player anymore, I'm starting to look for a bass to make the add to the tracks we have for now. Drums and guitar sound too thin, there's no bottom end, so I may have to play the bass some time soon if we're gonna make the tracks sound good. I tried a couple of basses and I currently like the OLP Stingray. I played with a pick of course, considering I'm a guitarist, and it's helluva fun.

UnDead_Knight1
10-13-2008, 04:32 PM
Well, it IS ESP's work after all, nothing but the best http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif but still, all this work has a price, $20k xD


Playing bass can be really fun http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, but the problem is, it's hell on your fingers for the first few days/weeks, cause the strings are like 4 times thicker than those on a guitar http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Razor_Ace
10-13-2008, 04:38 PM
Not really something I would buy anyway. Besides it lacks a rhythm pickup. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I tried playing with my fingers as well, but it's just not the same. What I always wanted to do though is playing slap style, which is really wicked too, and not really hard to do either. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

UnDead_Knight1
10-13-2008, 05:09 PM
I'd buy it if it was cheap http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
No it doesn't http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif there's no rule that says that the neck pickup is the rhythm pickup, it depends on the user and what he uses each pickup for http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Well, bass is supposed to be played with fingers, not pick, but still, depending on style, many rock and metal styles just use picks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Slap bass is awesome http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Razor_Ace
10-13-2008, 05:24 PM
Well in my case I like using the neck pickup for cleans and warmer leads, so this guitar wouldn't be very useful for me. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Technically there's no rule. Traditionally double basses were played with fingers (and a bow) but a bass guitar, being an instrument that bridges the two worlds, doesn't set a rule which states it is SUPPOSED to be played with fingers. Finger playing is just one of the three styles.

Sandwarrior1990
10-13-2008, 06:34 PM
Looking for a good quality acoustic guitar, that's affordable. Pre amp included, obviously >.>

My price range is gonna be about... £200, so around $400, or whatever that crazy rate is at now.

Anybody care to sway me in a good direction?

Metaalhoofd
10-14-2008, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
Well, bass is supposed to be played with fingers, not pick, but still, depending on style, many rock and metal styles just use picks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Slap bass is awesome http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

yea i prefer picks, its easiest :P but im working on slapping and popping to ^^

Robert_1989
10-16-2008, 04:44 PM
When changing strings, is it better for the neck tension to change them one by one, or to just take them all off and then start putting the new strings on?
I usually do it one by one but if any guitar tech people know better, SHOUT OUT LOUD

Razor_Ace
10-16-2008, 06:13 PM
It is better to take em all for for several reasons:

1) Restringing is simply easier this way. It saves a lot of time.

2) Removing all the strings makes the fretboard cleaning a lot easier. Best way to do that is to use Lemon Oil.

3) Intonation. It's pointless to do it with old strings.

4) Truss rod adjustment. Also very important.

UnDead_Knight1
10-17-2008, 03:57 AM
Depends on what type of bridge you have:

1) If it's a non moving bridge, you can choose what suits you better

2) If it's a tremolo of any kind, it's better to have the guitar in tune, then change one string at a time and tune it, saves time when tuning, and if you want to clean the fretboard, simply remove the bridge while strings are attached http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

You don't need to check intonation more than once a year, unless you change string brand, string gauge, or have really sucky bridge http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif (I check mine once every 6 months, and I never had to change it, except when I changed string gauge from .10 to .12, same with truss rod)

Truss rod, unless you have extreme climate changes, or you make extreme change in string gauge, you also don't need to worry about it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Razor_Ace
10-17-2008, 04:31 AM
Hehe well not everybody has uber high end several thousand dollar guitars like you do. xD
The things I've mentioned (except for cleaning) all come under a standard guitar set-up routine. You have to check intonation regardless because with poor intonation, your guitar won't stay in tune. I dunno how it is with original floyds, but with licensed, the one that I have, it has to be checked occasionally.

As for the truss rod, not entirely true. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Truss rod set up is also necessary to adjust the action. Normally you should have a bit of relief in the middle of your neck. Also to prevent fret buzzing.

spazzoo1025
10-18-2008, 11:31 AM
lol i know i said i did guitar b4, but i switched to drums bc i've always wanted to play em more than guitar lol

so I'm playing Adam's Song at a recital next week, its not the exact same as Travis plays, but i added my own style into it lol

Razor_Ace
10-18-2008, 12:47 PM
Drums are wicked to play. I love playing guitar but there's something really energetic about drums as well. Plus it never hurts learning to play another instrument. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Gypsy816
10-18-2008, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by Razor_Ace:
Drums are wicked to play. I love playing guitar but there's something really energetic about drums as well. Plus it never hurts learning to play another instrument. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I hear ya. My brother got a drum set and has been obsessed with it. Good thing we don't live in the same house. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Sandwarrior1990
10-18-2008, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Sandwarrior1990:
Looking for a good quality acoustic guitar, that's affordable. Pre amp included, obviously >.>

My price range is gonna be about... £200, so around $400, or whatever that crazy rate is at now.

Anybody care to sway me in a good direction?

Acoustic guitars, can anybody advise me on a specific brand?

UnDead_Knight1
10-18-2008, 02:20 PM
Yamaha, Epiphone, Fender, Taylor... all are good brands.

Razor_Ace
10-18-2008, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by Gypsy816:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Razor_Ace:
Drums are wicked to play. I love playing guitar but there's something really energetic about drums as well. Plus it never hurts learning to play another instrument. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I hear ya. My brother got a drum set and has been obsessed with it. Good thing we don't live in the same house. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I could recognize myself in the obsession bit. When I got a new amp, I couldn't play it at low volumes and I live in an apartment building. And yes neighbors did go nuts, and I had an angry mob at my door.

Anywho, for the funsies, here's a page about some musician related jokes. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.outliermusic.com/jokes.htm

Phreaky_McGeek
10-18-2008, 04:23 PM
I have obtained a KEYTAR!

http://www.anno-domini.co.uk/resources/gear_shs_10.png

boy am I looking forward to the freedom of movement while playing

The unit itself supposedly sounds awful, but can be hooked up to a synth for real sounds rather than Runescape-esque MIDI instruments.

I've also reserved a Roland Juno G, so I'll finally be able to record some of my music!

Robert_1989
10-20-2008, 11:11 AM
Does anyone who can actually sing give me some tips in how to 'let your voice go'? I'm having extreme difficulty just letting it all out, I can't even SCREAM full on.

I CAN make quite some noise at this point, but I could make so much more beautiful noise if I learnt to just let go of all restrictions and let my voice out of the cage.

SO ANY POINTERS?

I'll post a self-recorded song if there's any good tips!

UnDead_Knight1
10-20-2008, 01:02 PM
Is your problem with singing in general? or with singing while playing?
If it's with singing while playing, then just practice each separately till you can sing and play the song without giving it any thought, then try combining them.

If it's with singing in general, try drinking some water beforehand, and do some vocal exercises and warm ups, this video has some really nice tips, even though it sounds a bit stupid, but it really helps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-J_fHrql2k)

Razor_Ace
10-20-2008, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by Robert_1989:
Does anyone who can actually sing give me some tips in how to 'let your voice go'? I'm having extreme difficulty just letting it all out, I can't even SCREAM full on.

I CAN make quite some noise at this point, but I could make so much more beautiful noise if I learnt to just let go of all restrictions and let my voice out of the cage.

SO ANY POINTERS?

I'll post a self-recorded song if there's any good tips!

I'm facing the same problem as well. Singing while playing is tough, especially on songs that go a bit faster. Although I never really wanted to be a vocalist, my band is requesting that I sing as well as play rhythm guitar until we find another vocalist. The hard bit I think is separating your playing and singing in your mind. I dunno how is it possible that I can for instance watch TV while playing but not sing while. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Sandwarrior1990
10-20-2008, 02:54 PM
Motor skills. The way I'm getting used to it is just playing guitar normally, then trying to sing along, no matter if I miss words or what, just as long as something's happenin with my voice, obviously relatin to the song. Then I'm just progressin from there.

Buuut, I don't thing that's what Rob's asking, I think he's just havin trouble beltin' out a big note http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Well, I'm guessin' you know the diaphragm stuff, and how to sing powerful notes using your stomach >.>

UnDead_Knight1
10-20-2008, 03:34 PM
I'm facing the same problem as well. Singing while playing is tough, especially on songs that go a bit faster. Although I never really wanted to be a vocalist, my band is requesting that I sing as well as play rhythm guitar until we find another vocalist. The hard bit I think is separating your playing and singing in your mind. I dunno how is it possible that I can for instance watch TV while playing but not sing while.
Practice the guitar part till you can pretty much play it without thinking, then do the same with singing, then after you mastered each separately, it shouldn't be too hard to combine both, takes some time though, so be patient http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Phreaky_McGeek
10-20-2008, 04:09 PM
I found it much easier to sing along after using a vocoder. Even if it's just making noises in time to the melody it helped me.

Razor_Ace
10-20-2008, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I'm facing the same problem as well. Singing while playing is tough, especially on songs that go a bit faster. Although I never really wanted to be a vocalist, my band is requesting that I sing as well as play rhythm guitar until we find another vocalist. The hard bit I think is separating your playing and singing in your mind. I dunno how is it possible that I can for instance watch TV while playing but not sing while.
Practice the guitar part till you can pretty much play it without thinking, then do the same with singing, then after you mastered each separately, it shouldn't be too hard to combine both, takes some time though, so be patient http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hah yeah. I tried playing and singing Creeping death, the verse bit and it's pretty hard. That's gonna take a while to master. xD

Fun fact: I listened to the Mexico concert and it seems like they play it differently when they perform it live than on the studio version. A couple of open Es are missing in the verse riff. Anyone else noticed that?

Robert_1989
10-21-2008, 12:30 AM
Nonono it's not the singing and playing together, I've been practicing that ever since I picked up a guitar.

It's just that I feel that my voice could go so many more places in terms of singing power and right now I'm practicing how to let go of all my restrictions so I can sing more freely and utilizing every bit of voice I have.

I do breathing exercises to get my breathing 'lower', and to put less strain on my throat so i'll have more support for my notes. A bit like in the vid Khaled posted.
But I was just wondering if anyone had any other tips that I could utilize in doing this.

DarK_PhoeniX_22
10-21-2008, 03:00 AM
I read an interview of the Lamb of God singer who said that he'd run several laps around his home or studio before singing. The exercise helps him to increase his lung capacity for singing.

UnDead_Knight1
10-21-2008, 03:00 AM
try to relax and not think of it much, or maybe take some singing lessons if you think you're not utilizing your full potential

EDIT:


I read an interview of the Lamb of God singer who said that he'd run several laps around his home or studio before singing. The exercise helps him to increase his lung capacity for singing.


Yup, this too works

Sandwarrior1990
10-21-2008, 11:03 AM
That Lamb of God singer trick, was on the Sacrament DVD, he didn't seem too happy about doing it. So I doube that's somethin he regularly does http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Razor_Ace
10-22-2008, 01:06 PM
Has anyone heard Black Ice?

Gotta say the whole album is awesome. AC/DC simply doesn't disappoint. They stay true to themselves and their music, yet they evolve in the right direction.

UnDead_Knight1
10-22-2008, 02:44 PM
Gonna pick it up this weekend http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Robert_1989
10-24-2008, 02:27 AM
I think AC/DC only stay true to themselves in the sense that it sounds exactly like every other AC/DC CD ever made.

You can't honestly listen to Rock 'n Roll Train and not hear that it's Highway to Hell with a slight change in Lyrics.

And YES, I HAVE listened to several old and new songs before I made this statement.

Razor_Ace
10-24-2008, 03:21 AM
Rock n Roll train isn't really that similar to Highway to hell. There are certain tempo variations, and there are more solos thrown into the mix. I do however like the fact that they STICK TO THEIR ROOTS, unlike some other bands.

UnDead_Knight1
10-24-2008, 01:39 PM
lol, it's funny, when a band keep their style, people complain about them sounding the same, if they have variety in their music, people complain that they sold out, there's simply no way to please some people http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

spazzoo1025
10-24-2008, 01:52 PM
Me owning the drums (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzQZ9lWtuuI)


lol it's a recital i did last night, played Live Forever by Oasis, and theres another on my page, Blowin in the Wind by Bob Dylan

Razor_Ace
10-24-2008, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
lol, it's funny, when a band keep their style, people complain about them sounding the same, if they have variety in their music, people complain that they sold out, there's simply no way to please some people http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Now see those are ABSOLUTES. And between those there is this middle ground that satisfies both. IMO a band has to stay true to themselves, to their original style that defined them, but also innovate and put out original material. They don't have to go from hard rock to commercial rock in order to add variation. That is kinda something what Metallica did. Any honest fan would say that 80s material was way better, but when they started to make shorter, more radio friendly and commercial songs with Load and Reload, stripped away their sound and Hetfield losing his original voice, well let's be honest, that wasn't the band I originally liked. The new album is considerably better than it's predecessor, but well in a way, the damage was already done sort of speak, if you get what I mean...

UnDead_Knight1
10-24-2008, 04:08 PM
Yeah, I know what you mean, but still, there are people that will complain about anything, I mean, people complained when Trivium released The Crusade, saying that it's a ripoff Metallica's old stuff as an excuse, I guess people didn't like it that Matt actually improved his vocals and now actually sings instead of just shouting http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Sandwarrior1990
10-24-2008, 04:35 PM
I say, let the band do whatever they want, I'm open to pretty much anything.

UnDead_Knight1
10-24-2008, 04:52 PM
Pretty much the same here, if you don't like it, don't buy it, simple.

spazzoo1025
10-24-2008, 08:47 PM
so uhhhh me+the drums? CnC?

Robert_1989
10-25-2008, 02:51 AM
For how long have you been playing?

It's pretty good, but at least one of those guitars is either horribly out of tune or is being played by a CHIMP. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

So keep on banging them drums!

UnDead_Knight1
10-25-2008, 04:47 AM
Yup, you're pretty good on the drums http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Razor_Ace
10-25-2008, 05:11 AM
I think the acoustic guitar is a bit out of tune, and the singing is slightly out of key. Good drumming though.

spazzoo1025
10-25-2008, 07:12 AM
i've had like 6 lessons, one a week, so that's maybeeeee 1 and a half months, right?

and yeah i know, the dude playing acoustic is my teacher, he's awesome on drums but he can...scrape by...on guitar sorry http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Razor_Ace
10-25-2008, 09:19 AM
I've played drums a bit as well, though my playing time totals at about an hour or so (mostly comprising of occasion 5-10 minute drumming during jam sessions).
I'm still learning to play drums though, but I have to say I prefer the guitar. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

MetalHead419
10-25-2008, 03:41 PM
Yea, the acoustic is out of tune. He checked the intonation, it was off, but he didn't fix it... IDK, maybe it was time to start, maybe, being a couple of guitarists (UnDead, Razor, and I) we notice more than a drummer (your teacher)

Way to go on the drums FYI. Keep practicing and don't get frustrated, and you'll be there in no time.

Razor_Ace
10-25-2008, 04:15 PM
Since drums have become a prevalent subject here, anyone know any good tips on improving the double bass drumming?

spazzoo1025
10-25-2008, 08:58 PM
>_> don't get me started on double-bass pedals
sooo hard to playm it looks so easy tho

UnDead_Knight1
10-28-2008, 01:34 AM
^It's not THAT hard http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif just needs some practice


On another note, I rofl'ed when I saw this pic:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn239/bigmac242/looool.jpg

Razor_Ace
10-28-2008, 06:37 AM
Is there a SLIGHTEST CHANCE that this picture is fake?

Sandwarrior1990
10-28-2008, 09:01 AM
Hahahaha, that's pretty good.

UnDead_Knight1
10-28-2008, 01:35 PM
Huh? I don't see why this picture is fake http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif or do you mean the text?

Razor_Ace
10-28-2008, 02:48 PM
I know the text is fake, a funny reference to One though, but DAMN. Never woulda thought that I'd see Hetfield going all girly like that.

Do you by any chance have the original pic, without the text?

UnDead_Knight1
10-28-2008, 02:54 PM
Going girly? you're referring to the Armani bag he has?

Neah, don't have it, I just found this pic on another forum and thought to share http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Razor_Ace
10-28-2008, 03:06 PM
That and the flip flops I wouldn't put those on, even if someone threatened to put a gun to my face.

Sandwarrior1990
10-28-2008, 03:13 PM
If wearing flip flops and going shopping with your partner makes you a woman, then... it's a strange world.

Even if the most famous metal gods have chill time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
10-28-2008, 03:13 PM
Well, it's not that surprising that he wears Armani, he's filthy rich guy who likes to show off, simple. He doesn't have to keep that metalhead image all the time, you know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif only crazy fans do that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
As for flip flops, he seems to love them, as I've seen him wearing them in many photos, personally I think they're the second gayest footwear, after the crocs

Sandwarrior1990
10-28-2008, 03:18 PM
Armani do suits and jeans, I think. Obviously I don't shop there, like I could afford it >.>

Razor_Ace
10-28-2008, 03:24 PM
One of the things I always liked about Metallica (at least the EARLY Metallica) is that they kept a street look, no matter the situation. Nothing fancy, just plain and simple.
It's just funny to picture them like this. But ahh well, maybe this is one of those things that come with the midlife crisis. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
10-28-2008, 03:25 PM
@James: I have no use for suits, and I don't wear jeans, I don't find them comfortable http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif I either wear training pants or cargo pants http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Though either way, I wouldn't pay that much for clothes, I honestly don't see anything special in them....

EDIT:
@Razor: I guess so, I honestly don't care what they wear or do during their everyday life, if they make good music and put on a great show, then that's all I need.

Razor_Ace
10-28-2008, 03:44 PM
It is obvious that music is the top priority, but that is not the subject matter in this case. I was merely making a remark on this abrupt change which sort of conflicts with their previous statements about not trying to be anything fancy.
I think that is put really well in this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoG77VrIWlA

Sandwarrior1990
10-28-2008, 03:58 PM
There ain't nothing fancy about flip flops http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
If I was rich, I'd do my shopping in pricier shops, 'cos the clothes are better, whether it clashed with what I previously said or whatever.

But anyway, I haven't bought any new guitar equipment, apart from strings, in ages. I'm not sure whether I want an acoustic guitar or some effects stuffs.

UnDead_Knight1
10-28-2008, 04:00 PM
Yeah, well, they said they're metal, yet they cut their hair http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
They have families now, they can't just go around dressed like a metalhead all the time, or they won't get any action http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Also, lol@Lars, he says "like" and "whatever" more than a teenage girl http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif


If I was rich, I'd do my shopping in pricier shops, 'cos the clothes are better, whether it clashed with what I previously said or whatever.
All those Italian fashion clothes aren't better, not good enough to justify the high price tag, personally, no matter how rich I'll become (hey, I can dream, no? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif), I'll never spend $17k on a shirt, I'm quite happy with my regular t-shirts and pants thank you very much http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif


But anyway, I haven't bought any new guitar equipment, apart from strings, in ages. I'm not sure whether I want an acoustic guitar or some effects stuffs.
Well, that depends, do you actually plan to play the acoustic guitar regularly? or just get it to play a song or two? depends on what you want to play more... though don't overdue it with the effects either, or you'll end up screwing the tone more than improving it.

Razor_Ace
10-28-2008, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
Yeah, well, they said they're metal, yet they cut their hair http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
They have families now, they can't just go around dressed like a metalhead all the time, or they won't get any action http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Also, lol@Lars, he says "like" and "whatever" more than a teenage girl http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> If I was rich, I'd do my shopping in pricier shops, 'cos the clothes are better, whether it clashed with what I previously said or whatever.
All those Italian fashion clothes aren't better, not good enough to justify the high price tag, personally, no matter how rich I'll become (hey, I can dream, no? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif), I'll never spend $17k on a shirt, I'm quite happy with my regular t-shirts and pants thank you very much http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif


But anyway, I haven't bought any new guitar equipment, apart from strings, in ages. I'm not sure whether I want an acoustic guitar or some effects stuffs.
Well, that depends, do you actually plan to play the acoustic guitar regularly? or just get it to play a song or two? depends on what you want to play more... though don't overdue it with the effects either, or you'll end up screwing the tone more than improving it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They cut their hair A LOOOONG time ago. Except for Kirk. He redeemed himself by growing it back. Rob doesn't count though. He isn't part of Metallica in my mind.

In other words they got WHIPPED!

Lars ALWAYS used "like". And yes, it's annoying.

And I second what you said about buying expensive clothes. You CAN get high quality clothing at a fraction of the brand name prices. I bought a leather jacket recently, it looks really good and I didn't pay an astronomical amount of money, and it serves it's purpose.

As for Guitar equipment. I've gone over to tube gear. Just need to get a good power amp now, and I'm all set. I think I'll reserve the POD for live performances only. It's much easier to carry around. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Sandwarrior1990
10-28-2008, 05:56 PM
Haha, I ain't saying I'd buy rip-off clothes, I'd just indulge a bit... in fine quality suits!

If I had an acoustic I'd play it a lot yeah, that's gonna be my next thing I'll buy I think.

UnDead_Knight1
10-28-2008, 11:37 PM
@Razor: That's my point, if you're gonna talk about loosing it, they kinda did when they cut their hair, oh, well, it was fun seeing all the other metal bands bashing them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif
Pfft, Robert is Metallica's new pet http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I never really got this to be honest, why do people spend so much money on clothes when you can get same quality (even better sometimes) at a small fraction of the price O_o besides, personally I think those "cheap" clothes look better than those designer clothes anyway http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif


@James: If you're gonna play it a lot, then yeah, get one http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Robert_1989
10-29-2008, 01:22 AM
I'm no pet!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

But honestly, that Metallica picture made me laugh out loud.
It's great learning about even Famous Band Members being human, when there's so many sweaty, always-black-clothed mouth breather fans that think the definition of being metal is "Never washing your hair and grunting instead of speaking in an understandable tone of voice".

SO WHO'S GOT SOME NEW RECORDINGS OF THEIR MUSIC?

Razor_Ace
10-29-2008, 03:56 AM
Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
@Razor: That's my point, if you're gonna talk about loosing it, they kinda did when they cut their hair, oh, well, it was fun seeing all the other metal bands bashing them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif
Pfft, Robert is Metallica's new pet http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I never really got this to be honest, why do people spend so much money on clothes when you can get same quality (even better sometimes) at a small fraction of the price O_o besides, personally I think those "cheap" clothes look better than those designer clothes anyway http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif


@James: If you're gonna play it a lot, then yeah, get one http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Yep. That was indeed funny. Especially in the load era. Wasn't it somewhere around that time that they started getting into the family business? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Yeah. I bet his mommy didn't wanna take him shopping so James had to pitch in, so he'd stop crying.

Pff designer clothes just follow the current trends and stuff, and yeah they suck. Most of the stuff I buy is usually just normal looking shirts and jeans. As long as it's comfortable I'm good with it. And I only have one suit. First and last time I used it, winter 2003. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
10-29-2008, 04:18 AM
Yeah, that's when they started marrying and what not.

lol, it seems that they left Lars behind though, or else he'll go wild in the store http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Well, that's the point of designer clothes, isn't it? I think my clothes would be considered trendy only in the 70s or 80s, or maybe if it's a town full of harcore rock and metal fans http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif but yeah, comfort first.
I don't even have a suit, when I have to go to a fancy place, I just wear sport elegant clothes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif I can't stand suits >_> I think the only time I'd wear a suit is when I marry http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif and even then, I'll try to weasel my way out of it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

spazzoo1025
11-05-2008, 04:31 PM
so what songs can you guys play?

and also, I've got another recital coming up in December, so I need 4 songs to play for it. Any ideas? What i'm thinking of is:

-Bulls on Parade
-Say It Ain't So
-The Anthem
-Ballroom Blitz
-Something by Brand New, or whatever u guys want http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

PersianLegends
11-05-2008, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
I think the only time I'd wear a suit is when I marry http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif and even then, I'll try to weasel my way out of it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Good luck with that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif I doubt you'll be succesfull http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Anyway last time I wore a suit was graduation. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif T'was a white Tux. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

UnDead_Knight1
11-06-2008, 01:29 AM
Well, my current gf is a serious metalhead, so if everything goes well with her, weaseling out from wearing a suit won't be that hard http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

@Spazzoo: songs on what instrument? guitar or drums? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif either way the list is too long for either for me, I was originally a drummer you know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

As for a song to play, "Army of One" by Annihilator http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif, and of course the Matrix theme song, Wake Up by Rage http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Robert_1989
11-06-2008, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by spazzoo1025:
so what songs can you guys play?



AS A MATTER OF FACT, I'm working on building up a solo setlist now, because I want to start doing 'gigs'. But it's incredibly hard to keep songs varied with just you and your guitar, so I'm working on little solo's inbetween (ACTUALLY IT'S ALL SOLO'S IF YOU PLAY SOLO!?!)


PART OF ROBERT'S FUTURE SETLIST

* Johnny Cash - Folsom Prison Blues
* Elvis Presley - Wear my Ring around your neck
* Elvis Presley - Can't Help Falling in Love

* Bob Dylan - I shall be Released
* Bob Dylan - Mama, You Been On My Mind (still practicing with them damn lyrics though!!)

* The Cure - Boys Don't Cry
* Tim Buckley - Phantasmagoria in Two

And I'm Just starting on these two:
* Jeff Buckley - I Know We Could Be So Happy Baby (If We Wanted To Be)
* Jeff Buckley - Morning Theft

AND OF COURSE MY FAVOURITE SONG OF ALL TIME (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr8JFYzyP60&feature=related) *actually DOES play this*


I can also play some clichéd songs like 'Knocking on Heaven's Door' and 'Wonderwall', just because I wanted to be able to. I don't, however, feel like putting these up in my setlist because every artist and their mum has covered this.

That's it for songs I've practiced all the way through for now. WHO ELSE DARES TO POST THEIR SONGS

Razor_Ace
11-06-2008, 03:09 AM
I'm not so much into learning to play songs by other artists right now. My focus for the moment is learning some guitar theory. Yes that ACTUALLY DOES exist. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
I'm learning scales, modes, progressions harmonies, and incorporating all that into my riffs, licks, solos etc... Most of that knowledge goes into song writing for the band and such. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I also try to sing while I play, but it's not really a priority right now. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

spazzoo1025
11-06-2008, 05:44 AM
all my friends just play guitar using tabs, I'm amazed I'm the only one who can read sheet music, be it for guitar or drums >.>


go theory! @.@

Razor_Ace
11-06-2008, 02:16 PM
Nothing wrong with tabs though. Most of the stuff that I learn IS written in tabs. The books, the DVD booklets and such. It's a really versatile way to learn playing an instrument.

UnDead_Knight1
11-06-2008, 02:40 PM
No offense, but sheet music is kinda useless to guitar players compared to tabs.
As for theory it helps, but it's not a must...you CAN write kickass all times hits without it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Razor_Ace
11-06-2008, 04:38 PM
True about sheet music. It really doesn't help.

Well yeah, sure, you can just go nuts with the power cords and make a really kick *** riff but you often learn a few new things by borrowing something from theory, then you can implement that into your playing. Remember that Cliff Burton studied classical music and brought that into his bass playing. And of course, let's not forget Petrucci.

spazzoo1025
11-06-2008, 04:42 PM
i think being able to read music helps me more as a drummer than as a guitarist because there's only maybe 3 or 4 different "notes" in a song, or at least the easy ones, so it's easy to use sheet music

Razor_Ace
11-06-2008, 04:56 PM
Hmm...you mean you have a sheet that tells you which drum pieces to hit when playing a certain part of the song? In that case, yeah I suppose that is understandable. Though I've never seen a drum music sheet. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

spazzoo1025
11-06-2008, 05:05 PM
it's basically drum tabs, except more professional looking lol like this (http://www.somersmusic.com/images/RHAPSODY.JPG) or something a bit easier (http://drumtabprinter.fabali.net/wmaa.jpg)

UnDead_Knight1
11-07-2008, 04:49 AM
Well yeah, sure, you can just go nuts with the power cords and make a really kick *** riff but you often learn a few new things by borrowing something from theory, then you can implement that into your playing. Remember that Cliff Burton studied classical music and brought that into his bass playing. And of course, let's not forget Petrucci.

I'm not really talking about power chords, heck, if you use nothing but power chords you don't deserve to be called a guitarist.
I'm not saying it's not helpful, actually it can be very helpful, but you can still be a great guitarist without learning a single thing in music theory, or are you saying Hendrix' stuff are just lame power chords? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Robert_1989
11-07-2008, 06:25 AM
I think it's ridiculous that there's 'Rock Stars' out there that have a giant fanbase but only know THREE chords.

UnDead_Knight1
11-07-2008, 07:28 AM
You do know that punk isn't a rock genre, right? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Razor_Ace
11-07-2008, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:

I'm not really talking about power chords, heck, if you use nothing but power chords you don't deserve to be called a guitarist.
I'm not saying it's not helpful, actually it can be very helpful, but you can still be a great guitarist without learning a single thing in music theory, or are you saying Hendrix' stuff are just lame power chords? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

That was just an example. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif I didn't mean EXCLUSIVELY power chords.
And no didn't say that either, but Hendrix is an extra ordinary example. There are very VERY few people who would be able to pull that off without taking some serious lessons.


Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
You do know that punk isn't a rock genre, right? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Nah. Punk just borrowed our instruments and started abusing them with no aim or purpose and then thought they created music.

UnDead_Knight1
11-07-2008, 02:28 PM
Most of my stuff I wrote without a single lesson, I only started studying theory 9 months ago http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif theory is just a mathematical way to write songs http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Punk is generally talentless, that said, the Misfits and the Ramones kick ***.

Robert_1989
11-08-2008, 02:46 AM
Punk doesn't HAVE to suck. If you put some effort in using a simple premise in an original way, you can take it to great heights. Same for Blues, there's STILL new ways to play the blues, that's the beauty of music!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I've also never taken a lesson, but I learn something new about music everyday, be it from experimenting with chord varieties or by trying to play songs by ear.
I also started reading a bit into Jazz chords.
I thought I knew quite a bit of them already, but there's LITERALLY hundreds of ways to play the same chord.
Razor, if you fancy a challenge I'd advice you to practice some extreme jazz chords. That'll help you stretch your fingers BIG TIME http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

And it works surprisingly well in hardrock songs.

UnDead_Knight1
11-08-2008, 02:58 AM
The whole point of punk is to play with as little talent as possible http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif sure there are great punk bands, that doesn't mean they have major talent though http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

And what sort of blues are you listening to damnit? cause every blues song I've ever heard requires a good deal of talent and passion to be played correctly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif


I've also never taken a lesson, but I learn something new about music everyday, be it from experimenting with chord varieties or by trying to play songs by ear.
That's my point, you don't need lessons, you can learn perfectly well just from experience, sure, it might be slower, but I think it's better in the long run (I'M NOT SAYING THEORY IS BAD)

And yeah, lol, jazz pushes you to the limits, true jazz that is, not the so called "nu jazz"

Sandwarrior1990
11-08-2008, 06:03 AM
Do you mean the whole punk genre is talentless, or just parts of it?

Razor_Ace
11-08-2008, 08:05 AM
On Lessons:

If they weren't as outrageously expensive as they are here, I wouldn't mind taking them. I think that the more sources you have to learn from, the better. You just expand your horizons. But I find DVD lessons to be extremely helpful. They explain how you do a certain technique, and you can always rewind, and as we all know, DVDs aren't expensive at all. Books are also good, but they aren't as much fun. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif One DVD that has helped me A LOT with my playing is "50 blues guitar licks" It only covers the A minor pentatonic scale, but there's just a zillion licks you can get from it. Highly recommended. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

On Jazz:

I haven't really considered it much, but I might start playing it some time soon.
Haven't listened to Nu Jazz though.

On Punk:
Most punk bands today are over rated. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Whenever I go to local gigs around here, most who play punk are down right horrible. It's even more annoying that I have to wait till those posers are finished, before the REAL MUSICIANS come on stage.
Though there was one band that covered the Misfits once, and that was just about it.

spazzoo1025
11-11-2008, 09:20 AM
idc if people think they look gay, i like Queen http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

spazzoo1025
11-16-2008, 04:46 PM
whoooooo I GOT A DRUM SETTT!!!
finally http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


It's a Pearl Forum, black, I'll post pictures once i set it up

Razor_Ace
12-10-2008, 07:52 AM
Anyone seen the "All nightmare long" vid?

Thoughts?

Here's the link for those who didn't: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SzJdliUxMg

UnDead_Knight1
12-10-2008, 01:41 PM
The steak, it's aliiiive!!!

Razor_Ace
12-10-2008, 02:37 PM
Yeah certainly some really bizarre stuff. Kirk said in an interview he got this from a flea market in Russia. What the hell are the chances that this is real? :/

UnDead_Knight1
12-10-2008, 02:44 PM
The meteor you mean? well, it could be real, it's not like meteors never fell on Earth

Razor_Ace
12-10-2008, 04:07 PM
Yeah but meteors carrying organisms that behave in such a way. Quite extraordinary, but then again, who knows what kind of life is out there in the universe that we yet don't know about. But it does make sense it was a meteor or a comet strike. The explosion seemed like it was caused by a nuclear ordinance, and those didn't exist back at that time.

EPIC_TUN
12-10-2008, 04:21 PM
...Music wise, I play Guitar foremost. Not great at it, took lessons when I was a kid and stopped when the teacher moved, then three or four years later, picked it back up again. I am meh at Drums. Don't get enough of a chance to play them to be any good at them. I have played a Bass, but not to any extent. And also, I can do gutter vocals, as well as some Deathcore vocals. Cant' sing great, but I do it when listening to the softer stuff I listen to.

So...Yeah.

Razor_Ace
05-04-2009, 03:51 AM
Time to brings this thread back from the dead.

Anywho, I'm currently in a bit of a dilemma on what guitar I should chose to buy. I've been playing the same one for 2,5 years now, and I got pretty bored of it, so I need an upgrade, but can't decide between the two of these, so I'd like to see what you guys think. My current choices are ESP LTD EX-400 and Jackson RR3

First the LTD:

ESP LTD EX-400 Electric Guitar Features:

* Construction: set neck
* Scale: 24.75"
* Body: mahogany
* 3-piece maple neck
* Rosewood fretboard
* 22 extra jumbo frets
* Dot inlays with name at 12th fret
* EMG-81 (bridge) and EMG-60 (neck) active pickups
* Volume, tone, 3-way toggle controls
* Black hardware
* Earvana compensated nut
* Grover tuners
* Tune-o-matic-style bridge with stop tailpiece

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/0/5/2/535052.jpg


And now the Jackson:

* Alder body (with flamed maple top under transparent finishes)
* Bolt-on maple neck with scarf joint headstock
* Ivoroid binding on neck and headstock
* Seymour Duncan JB TB4 humbucker (bridge) and Jazz SH2N (neck) humbucker
* Compound-radius rosewood fretboard
* MOTO sharkfin inlays
* 25-1/2" scale
* 22 jumbo frets
* 1-11/16" nut width
* Floyd Rose Licensed Jackson low-profile double-locking tremolo
* Volume, volume, tone, three-way
* Sealed die-cast tuners
* Chrome pickguard
* Black hardware

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/6/3/1/589631.jpg

Sandwarrior1990
05-04-2009, 07:14 AM
If I were you I'd go with the Jackson, from what I remember you seem to like the whammy and Floyd Rose http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif The Tune-o-matic is good and everything, but you'll find yourself having to tune your guitar waaaay more often than the FR, obviously.

*Attempts to play more guitar*

UnDead_Knight1
05-04-2009, 11:35 AM
I'd go with Jackson, only ESP's high end gives you the most bang for buck imo.

Razor_Ace
05-04-2009, 12:06 PM
@James
Yeah but that was before. I've gotten a bit fed up with floyds and wanna go with a fixed bridge. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif And if I ever get nostalgic for a tremolo, I could still just go back to the old axe.
As for tuning, I heard that if you put Sperzel tunning heads on it, it'll make life a lot easier as far as keeping guitar in tune.

@Khaled

Have you heard of ESP Edwards? They say they are pretty close to original ESPs. They are also made in Japan, and the hardware and wood are only marginally lower in quality compared to ESPs. Plus their explorers remind me more of the classic ones, with the vintage headstock and
non curved upper body. Here's a pic:

http://www.espguitars.co.jp/edwards/ex/image/E-EX-125E_SCB.jpg


Although here's my assessment. The LTD has a set neck which is pretty comfortable for playing on higher frets, and I've also started playing some leads lately, and also, changing strings is a major pain in the arse with floyd roses.
What I like about the Jackson is the shape, obviously, but also the fact it has Seymour Duncans, but two major drawbacks are the bolt on neck and the non original floyd. Plus, isn't mahogany supposed to be lighter than alder? Correct me if I'm wrong.

UnDead_Knight1
05-04-2009, 01:46 PM
As for tuning, I heard that if you put Sperzel tunning heads on it, it'll make life a lot easier as far as keeping guitar in tune.
If it's that important you could just put a locking tuning pegs or a locking nut, lol.

Aren't the ESP Edwards Japan-exclusive? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Get the one you like more http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif obviously the best way is to try both in a shop and see which one suits you more. Pickups you can always change http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif And Mahogany is heavier than Alder.

Razor_Ace
05-04-2009, 05:04 PM
Hence why I reffered to Sperzel. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

They are, but you can easily find them on E-bay, and they seem a lot more affordable than ESPs. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I did try em both but it's really hard to decide. I like both shapes, both seem to have quality pickups, though I think SDs would cover a better musical range, and not just work for hard rock/metal stuff.
One solution that should combine the best of both worlds would be a KH-602, but I already HAVE a Start shaped guitar. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif I need something new and more outrageos. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

As for Mahogany vs Alder....that was a surprise. I have a friend who has a Gibson flying V and it's considerably lighter than my Jackson JS30. Weird...

UnDead_Knight1
05-05-2009, 01:30 AM
I know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif I was just saying that you could also just get a locking nut, which would be cheaper than a set of Sperzels.

E-bay, eh? cool then http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif personally the next ESP I'm gonna buy is most likely custom shop, that's where they really shine.

Well, depends what you wanna play, I know you like some blues and Jazz, so I'd say the SDs are better for those.

Here's a good site to explain about guitar wood types. (http://www.jemsite.com/jem/wood.htm)

DarK_PhoeniX_22
05-06-2009, 03:19 PM
Razor:
Personally I love the Mahogany tone . And the pups on the ESP are badass.
The RR offers interesting features like the FR for instance. +it looks cooler and gives you a better,easier access to the higher frets

And why don't you have a look at the RR5 instead of the RR3 if you don't want a floating bridge?

Razor_Ace
05-06-2009, 04:53 PM
@Khaled

Yeah but I just figured it'd be easier to swap the tuning heads.

Yeah. I didn't even know about these till a few months ago and I like the fact they make Explorers the way ESP used to, before the Gibson lawsuit. Hehe custom ESP. Nice. Which one are you getting?

Exactly. Plus I think passive pickups deliver a more natural tone. The preamp in active pups tends to add more unnecessary gain, and if I chose those, I'd have to redo all my amp settings again. And I know I can't go wrong with SDs.

@DP

I have considered that, but what I don't like about RR5 is the hardware. Gold color...yuck. It has to be either black or silver, and yes I know someone is gonna suggest swapping the hardware, but it's kinda hard to find the adequate bridge for it, and mount it right, as well as the triangle at the end of the body. Plus it costs a bit more than RR3. Though I'd say the ultimate solution for me would be RR1T, but that's seriously out of my price range.



What guitar do you have by the way?

UnDead_Knight1
05-08-2009, 06:15 AM
Depends, I personally find both to be easy enough to do.
Yeah, it's pretty cool, but to be honest, the Explorer shape guitar I like is the Jackson one, the Kelly.
Well, currently, none http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif no cash http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif though once I do decide to get one, it's gonna be a custom shape of my own, probably some sort of V.

Well, that's true for EMG vs. SD, though SD's actives are pretty sweet, and sound very natural, I'd only recommend them for metal though. (well, the Dave Mustaine actives are a bit more versatile and are good for rock and blues, haven't tried them with a jazz tone though), but yeah, you can never go wrong with SDs http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Razor_Ace
05-10-2009, 03:30 PM
Meh...I dunno. I don't like the Kelly that much. It's too curvy for my taste. The original Explorer shape looks best in my eyes. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Hell yeah to the V shape. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Never tried Livewire pickups, though I suppose they are twice as expensive as regular JB/Jazz, and no, SDs are just the best for almost anything. I don't even get it why people even use active pickups when preamp gain gives a more natural and smoother tone. Everything that gives you more gain, makes your tone way too harsh.

Heh here's something funny I've just found. Notice anything unusual? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...RntE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksPk_tCRntE&feature=related)

UnDead_Knight1
05-11-2009, 08:08 AM
I like more edgy guitars http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif especially the V shape and it's various morphs http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Read what I said again, I ws talking about their active pups, which are THE pups to get if you wanna play metal, especially high gain stuff. And no, more gain =/= more harsh tone, unless you're using some low quality equipment.

The Explorer actually suits him well http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

DarK_PhoeniX_22
05-17-2009, 02:18 PM
Razor: I personally like the white and gold rr3 but it's your guitar and your cash so you choose http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Did you have a look at Dean guitars?
Or you could simply upgrade your current giutar with better pups http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

godsmack_darius
05-19-2009, 03:41 PM
I play A lovely Tama Stewart Drum kit
With

22 X 18 Bass drum
10 x 8 Small Tom
12 x 9 Medium Tom
13 x 10 Large Tom
14 x 14 Floor Tom
16 x 16 Floor Tom
Pearl Burl Mahogany Artisan Snare Limited edition.
Supra Rototom Kit RTC-68
Zildjian Planet Z 20" Ride
10" Splash Cymbal
18" China Cymbal
14" Hi-Hats Cymbal
18" Crash/Ride Cymbal
Crash 20" Ride Cymbal
Pearl Demon Drive Twin Kick Pedal
Remo Hand percussion Kit Djembe 10"
11” & 12“ pair is a full-sized Conga Set
And A Supra Cowbell

And 7A Vic Ferth DrumSticks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DarK_PhoeniX_22
05-20-2009, 04:32 PM
Btw,I have a Dean ML and love it.Especially when it passes through a Peavey 5150 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif
But I haven't really practiced for quite some time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

UnDead_Knight1
05-21-2009, 11:34 AM
The Peavey 5150 is a monster amp, I love the tone of it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


But I haven't really practiced for quite some time
Same here, ******* uni http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

DarK_PhoeniX_22
05-21-2009, 12:30 PM
It isn't mine though http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
But i get to use it as much as I want http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
It's my cousin's amp.

UnDead_Knight1
05-21-2009, 01:52 PM
That's actually better, since you can use it as much as you want, and not worry about replacing the tubes.

Razor_Ace
05-21-2009, 05:05 PM
I try to practice as regularly as possible, but yeah due to uni and social obligations, I can't always make time, but yeah, at least an hour or two a day I try to dedicate to playing.
And Dark Phoenix, congrats on the gear.
I still own the Mesa Quad preamp, but I need the poweramp and a speaker cab, to complete the rig, though since my current guitar is starting to fail me, it needs replacing, and only after that I guess I can start focusing on my tube amp rig.

Robert_1989
05-22-2009, 01:32 AM
In lighter news, I'm making some nice progress with my Jazz Chords!
I'm starting to get the most important rhythm chords down and getting the hang of jazz structures and end-of-the-bar transitions.

Which is pretty awesome, and sounds like it, too!
Anyone else here into jazz chords, by any chance?
Khaled, maybe? (I think some actually might sound awesome in Metal)