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UnDead_Knight1
03-10-2006, 11:04 AM
yep, that's the main idea, imagine how many mics are needed to mic this kit, and the bassist (damn it, I forgot his name) also uses a 6 string bass, which is also huge, compared to it, the guitar looks tiny

Sandwarrior1990
03-10-2006, 11:35 AM
I'd think quite a few mics, haha http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

So, does he have two extra deep strings or two higher pitch strings added on?

and if that's it on the right in the last picture, then it looks huge already!

UnDead_Knight1
03-11-2006, 04:01 PM
depends on what angle you look from, if he used a thinner gauge they would be deep strings, if he used thicker gauge they would be higher pitched http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

but if you look at it from the regular gauge bassists use, and as the 5 string bass has a one more deeper string, and is it's supposed to be bass, and the heavy bass in their songs I'd bet it is 2 deeper strings http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

EDIT: here's a pic:
http://www.danubius.hu/repository/images/90766
http://dt.spatang.com/bios/myung1.jpg
http://www.progressiveworld.net/jpg/dtlive_myungj.jpg
http://www.musikermagasinet.com/bilder/artikel/yamaha_rbxjm2_0409.jpg

Sandwarrior1990
03-11-2006, 04:10 PM
It is massive! So it goes extra low pitch? Nice http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-11-2006, 04:27 PM
yep, low pitch rocks, and one of Tony Petrucci's guitars is a 7 string guitar, which is also a cool guitar, and it also has extra low pitch (as usual with 7 strings, unless he ordered a special one with extra high pitch)

Sandwarrior1990
03-11-2006, 04:39 PM
I was thinking that sometimes the bass would get so low sdo that you could barely hear it anymore..?

anybody have advice on buying a good pair of surround sound headphones? because I wanta good pair for my music and playing guitar at night time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-12-2006, 11:01 AM
well, bass can get very low, you woun't hear it, but you'll diffenatly feel it.

and for surround headphones, well if all you want is listening to music, and playing guitar late at night, I'd say go get yourself a decent stereo headphones, as most songs are recorded in stereo not surround (all rock is stereo), and as for playing, well amps are mono, some amps are stereo, but never surround, so unless you gonna use the headphones for gaming and movies, I'd say save a bunch of $$$ and get a decent stereo cups.

btw cool batman sig.

Sandwarrior1990
03-12-2006, 11:17 AM
and that bass effect is seriously cool http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

well I was going to use them for anything really, guitar, music, gaming, movies, the lot. So, I'll probably spend around â£50 on a good pair of headphones, thats the cheapest I can find in the UK.

and, thank you http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

DarK_PhoeniX_22
03-12-2006, 11:22 AM
aha i see Mike Portnoy & John Myung(the bassist).
i also have that drumset pichttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


I was thinking that sometimes the bass would get so low sdo that you could barely hear it anymore..?

this happens in some songs.
eg: 'As i am'.
i had to put the volume really loud to hear it

UnDead_Knight1
03-12-2006, 11:47 AM
yeah, dream theater rocks
and yeah that drumset is cool, man, I'll look into that pic when upgrading my drumkit

thecool9
03-12-2006, 12:53 PM
Is that John Myung i see their?
He's my favourite, still active bassist. I've always wanted to pick up a six string because of what he's done, but i don't think i'd ever use it with my band. I'm a four string guy i guess, i mean look at what Geddy Lee and Mel Schacher were able to do with only four strings.

UnDead_Knight1
03-12-2006, 01:10 PM
yeah it is Jogn Myung in the picture, I see you're also a dream theater fan, cool.
yeah, he's pretty damn cool bassist, and you're right, while playing a 6 string would be cool, it doesn't mean anything, it all depends on the talent of the bassist, anyhow, 4 string bass rocks, and I mean it literally

DarK_PhoeniX_22
03-12-2006, 01:10 PM
yeah
im a gr8 Dream Theater fanhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

good to see that people know good musicians

Sandwarrior1990
03-12-2006, 01:14 PM
yeah, 4 string bass rocks as much (if not more than) 6 string, the sound sbassists get out is just amazing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Keitan, its nice to know that people like the same music. even though so many people like rock and metal http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-12-2006, 01:17 PM
well, lots of people like rock and metal simpley cause it's cool, and yeah it's nice to know other people share the same taste you have in music, but you gotta admitt, bands like metallica and dream theater must be lovedhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sandwarrior1990
03-12-2006, 01:20 PM
hell yeah, and also I think that most people underestimate the amount of emotion put into some metal & rock songs. You cant beat a good bit of Metallica and Dream theater http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-12-2006, 03:26 PM
true, true...
it's true that some metal songs are all about mindless screaming, but it's also true that a lot of songs are emotional, and truely show a talnet in playing a singing, and you gotta admit bands like metallica and dream theater never gets old, unlike the mindless screaming or other music styles that one will hate after some time.
to conclusion: listen to metal, it's for your own good

Angelina_22
03-12-2006, 03:51 PM
I was talking to some people at University the other day about instruments and if and why some instruments are considered more "manly" and why some might be considered more feminine.

Would you guys think that it's correct that peoples opinion in general is that most guys go for guitars and drums?
And that other instruments such as piano, flute, and so on are more considered feminine intruments?

I'm not sure if I would say that it is necessarily true, but sure sometimes it can seem that way.
Although I do break that pattern a bit since I play a bit of guitar as well, but still, piano is my main instrument.
Although I do know a few guys who are awesome by the piano, so I guess not all follow that traditional pattern...if there is one.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-12-2006, 04:04 PM
good to see ya again angelina http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

well, I don't think guys go to guitar and drums cause they are more manly, I think people go to guitars and drums cause they find the sound pretty cool, that's why I chose those instruments anyway, cause I like their sound, not cause they are manly, but I think that there are more male guitarists than female ones is because some of the fast and complecated licks need slightly long fingers to reach far frets (it can be done with shorter fingers, but it would be harder).
in the end of the day it is all a matter of preference, not a matter of manly and femanine instrument, looks like guys are more interested in screaming guitars, and smashing drums, while girls prefer more subtle tones, well that's atleast how I see it, I might be completly off http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Angelina_22
03-12-2006, 04:21 PM
Hey!http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Good to see you also...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
Well I figured there might be a need for some more people to represent the pianoplaying among all these screaming guitars...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Or should I just bring the african drums also??http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Yeah that could be it, with the guitarist needing a little longer fingers to manage, but then again some people would also say that it's definitely an asset to have quite long fingers when playing the piano. Which it of course can be, but in my opinion it's mostly a matter of having your fingers, well, trained enough, meaning trying to avoid stiff fingers. Really, how many finger exercises haven't I been instructed to do while I was taking classes...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif...all for a good cause of course!http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
But since I don't really have that short fingers I can't really answer whether it gets alot trickier playing then...but yeah, it probably would be....when reaching for those chords...

Well as I said I play the guitar a bit also, bt it's mainly the acoustic one nowadays since I sold the electric one I had. As for the drums...ahem...well, I think it would be awesome to learn how to play it, since I love playing the african kind, however with the regular drums, I think my coordination would be quite hopeless...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-12-2006, 04:59 PM
cool, then you're our pianoplaying representivehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif, and also bring the african drums, they sound cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
and yeah the most important thing is well trained fingers, but yeah longer is better when reaching for chords.

well, the accoustic requires even longer figers than the electric, as it has a wider neck, and is harder to play.

with regular drums it's not a matter of coordination as it's a matter of style, what I mean is that playing regular drums is quite easy, as the toms and cymbals are quite big, and unless you're blind or crosseyed, I don't see a reason not to be able to hit the right tom or cymbal, but yeah, it needs time to gain speed, but less time than it would take on guitar or sax, well atleast that was the case with me, all that is left is style, as this is the most important thing to a drummer (after sounding good ofcourse), oh and a big and impressive kit wouldn't hurt http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif, and the best thing about drumming is that all you need is your hands, you don't even need figers, as you can glue the sticks to your hands http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sandwarrior1990
03-12-2006, 11:52 PM
You know some disturbed chords? in the song Believe one of the main chords is something like
-
-
10
10
5
5

and my hands are kinda small so Im like "http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif" heh, well I can reach that chord just will take a lot of practise to do it more easily and better.
I will be back to talk more later http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-13-2006, 05:00 AM
yeah, that's a tricky one, and it's very hard to reach for this chord, but then again, Dan might be playing it in a completely different way, like most tabbers for master of puppets tabbed the intro like this:
--------------------------------
--------------------------------
7-5-4-3-------------------------
7-5-4-3-------------------------
9-7-6-5-------------------------
--------------------------------

while metallica plays it like this:

--------------------------------
--------------------------------
--------------------------------
2-------------------------------
2-10--9--8----------------------
0-12-11-10----------------------

so you see, the tabbers might be completely off, but one thig for sure, that chord well get your fingers streached, alot

DarK_PhoeniX_22
03-13-2006, 05:20 AM
@ Angie: hey.well,in my opinion,women look sexy with guitars or any other instrument http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif
btw, Dream Theater has someone who plays the piano,keyboard

@ UK: id even say that some need to be worshipped for being so good http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
Dream Theater:The silent man has a nice accoustic part

@ Jimmy : Metallica, Dream Theater & some other bands r better since u can feel an emotion with their songs. other bands often have 'hollow' songs

Sandwarrior1990
03-13-2006, 08:56 AM
@UK: So would those 2 different riffs (I really should know if thats the right name or not http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif) should sound the same, but ones easioer to play? Well id rather take shortcuts if it gives the same or better sound http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
and that Disturbed chord is becoming easier to play already, even if it isn't the one that Dan played.
btw, Im not sure if Im playing the Palm Mute right, when I play the note it doesnt continue, its just completely 'dead' I spose the word would be, am I just being stupid or is that how its supposed to sound?
@Keitan: yeah, thats one of the best things about these bands http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif But stil people underestimate the depth of Metal music IMO.

UnDead_Knight1
03-13-2006, 10:48 AM
@Keitan: yeah, some people are just too good.
and the silent man does have a very nice accoustic part, one of the best there is.

@Jimmy: yeah, the word is indeed riff, or lick as we call it in the studiohttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif. and both of them give you the same result, and are both easy to play, I even find the metallica one easier as the frets in there are closer to each other, guess that's how tabbers figured it out, and yeah that chord is tricky at first, but is fairly easy, unlike some led zeppelin and AC\DC chords.

finally, metal songs have lots of empotion, otherwise there woun't be lawyers, doctors and proffisors that listen to them, but there are bands that are indeed hollow, I guess that the people that listen to blues also, have a depth to their songs.

oh, and I once saw in a site solo for AC\DC's highway to hell, and it says that's the original tab, and that's how Angus played it on the album, I wonder then how he could reach the 25th fret when his guitar had only 22 frets http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Sandwarrior1990
03-13-2006, 11:17 AM
Yeah, I just wasnt sure if it was correct, lick sounds way cooler anyway http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
I do the same, if its closer together then its probably easier to play, and if it gives the same result then whats the point of playing the harder one, unless you're trying to show off, then go ahead http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Im sure there are way harder chords, & I know this is easy as I've pretty much cracked it already http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

do you think that the lyrics of the song add to the effect? I do, because when I find a particularly meaningful song or something, I listen carefully to the lyrics, and that just makes it better! Definately, blues has a lot of depth to their songs.

lol! Maybe he had a specific guitar for that song, I dont know. But most guitars go to at least 24 frets now, right?

UnDead_Knight1
03-13-2006, 11:34 AM
cool, yeah closer is easier, but the thing with show off's is that all they do is show off, they don't have talent, they just "show off".

Lyrics diffenatly add to the effect of a song, imagine the unforgiven with st. anger lyrics, it would simply sound bad, and the song would loose all it's effect.
Blues is propably the most depthed music, if you want to listen to blues listen to Muddy Waters, he's like the metallica of the blues world.

about the Angus Young song, it was a joke about what tabbers would do to make their tabs sound like the official ones, there are no 25 fret guitars, all guitars are 22 frets, and in the 80s they started building 24 frets, so all guitars are 22 or 24 frets, and usually people who started playing in the 70's continued to use 22 fret guitars, for one simple reason, they don't need the extra 2 frets

Sandwarrior1990
03-13-2006, 11:43 PM
True, but if you want a good song to show a friend or something then I'd pick an easy one that sounds cool, like Enter Sandman.

Now that you said that, it would sound terrible with St.Anger lyrics, the bests songs have good lyrics though, sometimes simple stuff works great!
Hmm, I might listen to some then http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Well the 25th fret did seem kind of pointless anyway, but theres nothing wrong in having two more frets now is there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-14-2006, 08:02 AM
true, it's better choose a simple-cool-sounding song to show off to those non-guitarist friends.

yeah sometimes those simple stuff that come in the spur of the moment turns out to be the best stuff, and sometimes they suck lol

well there are no 25 fret guitars, well not that are massly produced, you can ask for a 25 fret guitar to be build for you, but no there's nothing wrong with 2 extra frets, but for me, I have 24 and 22 fret guitars, and I never used the 2 extra frets, unless I'm doing a tribute to a band that did use them, but in my own stuff, I usually reach the 21st fret max, maybe later I'll use the other frets in my own stuff, who knows

DarK_PhoeniX_22
03-14-2006, 10:15 AM
to show off to guitarist friends,u could play the glass prisonhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sandwarrior1990
03-14-2006, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by DarK_PhoeniX_22:
to show off to guitarist friends,u could play the glass prisonhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
We could, but we're talking about a song that doesnt need a few different lines to get the main tune of the song.
Although, I havent looked at that tab much before, Enter Sandman is easy to get the tune of one guitar, so is most of Tne Glass Prison though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

UnDead_Knight1
03-14-2006, 12:56 PM
well, if you want to empress with one guitar, and with easy song, all you have to do is play smoke on the water, or (I can't get no) satisfaction, these are pretty easy rock classics that sound cool

Sandwarrior1990
03-14-2006, 01:25 PM
Yeah, smoke on the water, that one works well!
Very easy to play, and sounds great, classic little riff there. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-14-2006, 01:52 PM
yep, and for some reason, this was the song that most rock legends started with

Sandwarrior1990
03-14-2006, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
yep, and for some reason, this was the song that most rock legends started with
Maybe its a sign? heh
or maybe its because a lot of succesful guitarists listened to Deep Purple during their childhood? I duno, but heyif its a good starting point for the best then Im not complaining http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-15-2006, 11:38 AM
maybe, but yeah deep purple is very influential band over rock legends, and you gotta admit, smoke on the water really rocks, it's one hell of a cool song, and is pretty easy to play too, even the solo

Black_Smoke2006
03-15-2006, 11:41 AM
Artist:Young Yezzy ft. Akon
Song: Soul Survivor

UnDead_Knight1
03-15-2006, 11:50 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gifwrong thread http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Sandwarrior1990
03-15-2006, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by Black_Smoke2006:
Artist:Young Yezzy ft. Akon
Song: Soul Survivor
I think you want this thread Tomas, click me (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/861108132/m/4981030493)


Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
maybe, but yeah deep purple is very influential band over rock legends, and you gotta admit, smoke on the water really rocks, it's one hell of a cool song, and is pretty easy to play too, even the solo

Yeah! well if a lot of rock legends played deep purple first then that shows a lot of respect. Hell yeah! Its one helluva song, solo is so fun to play yet so easy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-15-2006, 12:03 PM
hell yeah, Richie Blackmore really knew his way between those frets, he truely is a rock legend.

anyone of you guys know metalium? they're german band, but sing in english, the bass and drums there truely shine, and Lars Ratz (bassist) is one hell of a freak for bass explosions

Sandwarrior1990
03-15-2006, 12:08 PM
Ive heard of Metalium, but havent heard any of their music. Ill tyr to hear them some time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif what type of metal do they play? thrash?

UnDead_Knight1
03-15-2006, 12:23 PM
yeah, they play lots of trash metal, and they also play melodic metal, their style is very similiar to metallica's, although they're new band, their style is totally cool old school, propably cause they were born in the 60s, I'll send you some examples on MSN

Sandwarrior1990
03-15-2006, 12:37 PM
Oh cool, I like thrash metal a lot! obviously, and melodic metal is great too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
So they decided to form a band pretty late in their lives then? or new as in not as old as Metallica?
I look forward to listening to the songs http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-15-2006, 12:51 PM
well, in new I mean that they started in the late 90s, their first album was released in 1999, and they currently have 5 albums.
They used to work with other bands, but in 1998 they decided to make a band of their own, and it looks like they succededhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sandwarrior1990
03-15-2006, 12:54 PM
Okay, so they were like 30 when they made their own band up?
five albums is a lot since 1999!
so they had a lot of experience, maybe thats why they're so succesful now?

UnDead_Knight1
03-15-2006, 01:53 PM
yeah, they were in their late 30s when they formed the band, and they released an album almost every year (hope they keep it this way), and eache album simply rocked, and yeah they had lot's of experience
anyhow they're cool, they sound awesome, and that's what really matters , right? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sandwarrior1990
03-15-2006, 02:14 PM
an album a year? I bet that kept em busy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
well at least they make a good quaity album every year, unlike some bands that make yearly albums that suck.

that is what matters, and from what ive eard they are a great band!
and I love the covers of their albums, eventhough thats not too important, hehe http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-15-2006, 02:25 PM
lol, yeah they rock big time, and yeah the album covers does look cool, metalian rocks
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00004XN9V.08.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

and yeah the most important thing is the quality of the music, not the quantity, but if we get to have both quality and quantity why complain http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif?

Sandwarrior1990
03-16-2006, 12:57 PM
Yeah!
I really need to get used to playing guitar standing up now, cause it means I have more room to move myarms when standing up so I have to change the way I play a tiny bit

UnDead_Knight1
03-16-2006, 03:50 PM
to tell you the truth, the best way to play metal songs is standing up, while playing slow stuff (like the unforgiven, or accoustic metal) it's better to set down, accoustic stuff should always be played setting down, as it's the best way to have total control over your guitar.
Anyhow, for playing standing, the best posture is having your legs spread (don't laugh http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif), and having the guitar as low as your waist (you might cramp your arms if you hold it too high, so beware), the best posture should be something like this:
http://www.getthatsound.com/General%20Assets/Images/Hetfield.jpg
http://www.nrk.no/img/324147.jpeg

when soloing, you better either telt your back a little, or tilt the guitar, the most important thing here is to look cool,ofcourse, if you find your own cool posture, then it's the best thing, but if you didn't do something like this:
http://www.myguitarsolo.com/Players/KirkHammett.jpg
http://bands.freepage.de/caf2/kirk05.jpg

one word of friendly advice, don't do this unless you're 100% sure that the guitar is clean:
http://www.metallicamp.de/index/pics/kirk03.jpg

Sandwarrior1990
03-17-2006, 08:39 AM
Yeah I figured that, just that I got used to playing electric sitting down because I never had a shoulder strap before, but now that I do Im just trying to get used to it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
okay thanks.

I just wana talk a little bit about the Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro sorry if Im getting a bit repetitive here http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

well, is it able to make a proffesional sounding song? so I could record different parts of a song, seperately on guitar and merge them together to make it sound like there's a whole band playing? and just talkijg about the software here, not my musical abilities (http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif) can it make a completely kick *** song if you get the hang of it?

(I'll ask some more questions in a minute, but its better to know before I go ahead and buy it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

UnDead_Knight1
03-17-2006, 09:09 AM
well, don't worry, you'll get used to it pretty quicklyhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, and I know it's hard to have the guitar low at first, but do it, as it prevents cramps

about the X-Fi elite pro, you can get pretty good quality sounding sounds, but if you intend on micing the amp, get a high quality mic.
what do you mean different parts of a song? do you mean like playing a guitar riff, then adding another guitar riff, so it would acctually sound like 2 guitars playing? if that's what you mean then yeah you can do it, with the software cubase LE that is bundled with the card, I never used it, so I don't know how to use it (I usually use pro tools), but yeah you can do it.
btw there's also bundled the software amplitube LE, which is basically a plug in for cubase, which is a virtual amp, this way you can connect your guitar directly to the card, without a need of an amp, and yeah you can get a kick *** song, depending on your playing abilities of coursehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sandwarrior1990
03-17-2006, 10:33 AM
Cool, well I have a spare â£250 so I think I'll buy that then http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Whats all this about it making songs on your computer into surround sound, and repairing them? so would the music then be surround sound and able to us with Sourround sound headphones? cause that sounds very cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-17-2006, 12:39 PM
you mean the stuff they put in the advertisement of the X-Fi? well, you can make it into surround, but I gotta say, if it was recorded in a stereo, then it's ment to be played in stereo, and as in music there isn't any movement of sound (except some effects that "move" the sound from right to left channel, but that's it). What I mean to say it's just a publicity thing, it woun't inhance the experience, but the echo and crystalizer effects will sure dohttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sandwarrior1990
03-17-2006, 02:31 PM
Okay, but It also says that it enahnces the song back to 'better than CD quality' is that true?
amd what do the echo and crystaliser effects do?

UnDead_Knight1
03-17-2006, 02:48 PM
the crystalizer is the one that's supposed to inhance the quality, the echo (which is also known as eax) makes you feel like you're in a jazz club, opera hall.... it does inhance the quality, some might like the effect it adds, some might hate it, for me I like it, but not for songs, but for games and movies, for songs it's better just turn the crystalizer on, but turning on the EAX during the live sh** gives pretty cool tones

Sandwarrior1990
03-17-2006, 02:59 PM
Sounds cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Guess I'll discover more when I get it.
Im just guna post a picture I've taken of my rig so far, although it isnt that great, hehe http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3366/gitrig0020dg.th.jpg (http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gitrig0020dg.jpg)
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-17-2006, 03:06 PM
awesome rig
btw, it's not the number of effects that make a great sound, look at AC\DC, Angus's rig is just his guitar and an amp, no pedals.
btw, when building your own sound remember the old saying "if it's not part of the solution, then it's part of the problem", meaning if an effect doesn't add to the sound, then it propably subtracts from it's greatness, remember this and you'll have awesome tone http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Sandwarrior1990
03-18-2006, 03:59 AM
thanks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
yeah, that is true, but I suppose its better not to use loads of effects anyway, as long as its like only getting a crunch effect to make your guitar tone suit the song or something.
I'll take that in mind when Im playing guitar now, thanks for the advice http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

If it's good enough for Angus then Im sure it's good enough for me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif hehe

UnDead_Knight1
03-18-2006, 05:25 AM
yup, usually lots of effects aren't good, the cool tone must come from the amp, but it's good to add a wah wah pedal, as it gives cool sound, and it's also good to add a distortion stomp box if you play lead guitar, but activate it only during the solos to give that cool screaming soundhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

btw, here's a good site to check the rigs of famous guitarists: guitar geek (http://www.guitargeek.com)
it doesn't have metallica's rig though

and here's Angus Young's rig: rig (http://guitargeek.com/rigview/312/)

oh, and check Dan Donegan's rig: rig (http://guitargeek.com/rigview/430/)

Sandwarrior1990
03-18-2006, 02:07 PM
Cool
Just goes to show the having hardly any effects AND having lots can both be great http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

and I was going to saysomething else but now I cant remember what it is haha, I'll come back to you on that one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-18-2006, 03:01 PM
yeah, lots of effects can make a good tone also, but if they are used wisely.
But Dan doesn't use lots of effects, all he use is a volume pedal (which is just for controlling the volume), a whammy pedal (which is instead of the vibrato arm on the guitar (SG and les paul guitars don't have vibrato arm)), a phaser and a cry baby wah pedal (a must to any lead guitarist), he doesn't use lots of effects, now Van Halen on the other hand, have a huge rig, check it out: rig (http://guitargeek.com/rigview/258/)
and also check Tony Iommi's (black sabbath) rig: rig (http://guitargeek.com/rigview/476/)

btw, take your time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sandwarrior1990
03-18-2006, 04:07 PM
I honestly dont see the point in all those effects, sure they may sound cool, but meh.

I remembered, its not anything special, with my Spider112 it said 'go to the website to see how to make the right efect for the songs you like' or something, and I cant find the site :S
also, I have a vibrato arm and what the hell does it do? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-18-2006, 04:28 PM
meh, have you heard a Van Halen song? it makes your head hurt in so many levels, the guitar is so high pitched it's annoying, and as for black sabbath, it does sound cool now, but it also sounded cool back in the 70s when Iommi didn't have all this effects (Iommi's 70s rig (http://guitargeek.com/rigview/495/)), but it also sound cool now, so no harm done

about the site, I didn't manage to find it either :s, I'm not even sure they have such a site lol, although if you want metallica tones put it on metal, and put the mids all the way off, the bass all the way up, and play with the treble (it's usually very high in their songs, in master of puppets I think it's all the way up), well this is the road to get the coolest tonehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

the vibrato arm changes the pitch of a note, gives an effect similiar to wah (but wah is way cooler imo), anyway to use it, just pull it so it's directly over the strings, and push it in towards the body and the strings (you can push it in when it's anywhere, but above the strings is the easiest place to puch it in), try it, you might like the effect, and it sounds pretty cool, remember just push it in http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif (if you still can't get the hang of it, I'll post a video of me using ithttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

Sandwarrior1990
03-18-2006, 04:50 PM
Cool, Ill try that effect for Metallica, and especially master of puppets, but not now cause its nearly 1am and I have no headhpones spare http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

oh, a wah pedal does sound a lot cooler, but I got this vibrato arm free so I may as well use it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif do I screw it in all the way? or just until it gets tight..?

UnDead_Knight1
03-19-2006, 03:55 AM
cool, tell me how it soundshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

about the vibrato arm, just skrew it (somehow this doesn't sound right http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.giflol) 3-5 times, keep it loose, so you could easily get it when you need it, and it does give a cool effect, it's not used a lot these days, but it was used a lot inthe eighties for cool guitar tricks

Angelina_22
03-19-2006, 04:05 AM
Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
cool, then you're our pianoplaying representivehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif, and also bring the african drums, they sound cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
and yeah the most important thing is well trained fingers, but yeah longer is better when reaching for chords.

well, the accoustic requires even longer figers than the electric, as it has a wider neck, and is harder to play.

with regular drums it's not a matter of coordination as it's a matter of style, what I mean is that playing regular drums is quite easy, as the toms and cymbals are quite big, and unless you're blind or crosseyed, I don't see a reason not to be able to hit the right tom or cymbal, but yeah, it needs time to gain speed, but less time than it would take on guitar or sax, well atleast that was the case with me, all that is left is style, as this is the most important thing to a drummer (after sounding good ofcourse), oh and a big and impressive kit wouldn't hurt http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif, and the best thing about drumming is that all you need is your hands, you don't even need figers, as you can glue the sticks to your hands http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

He he, yeah sure, I can volunteer to represent "Ebony and Ivory" in here...you know that song right..."Ebony and Ivory played together in perfet harmony..." and so on, referring to the keys on the piano obviously!http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Oh I should definitely bring the african drums then...and hey maybe I'll throw in my accordeon as well, gives us quite the variation all of a sudden doesn't it??http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Since of course we already have a whole bunch of screaming guitars in here....and talented drummers also.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

He he, well, sure, in time and with tons of practice I probably COULD get the coordination together and learn how to play drums.
But then I already have struggles trying to make time for the instruments that I already play...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

DarK_PhoeniX_22
03-19-2006, 04:14 AM
@ UK:wow. im listening to a flamenco by joe satriani.i understand what u meant by:he plays very quickly

even Slayer does quick solos but there is no melody in what they do.

@ UK,jimmy & Angie(u like south park,right?): here's a South park version of Dream Theater
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8468/dreamtheater9sq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
pretty cool...lol
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-19-2006, 06:26 AM
@angilena: cool, yeah I know that song, Paul McCartney is pretty good, and yeah harmony rocks (without it songs would literally suck, lol)

and yeah bring the african drums, and accordeon, we'll quite a cool variations, cool.
oh, and don't forget bassistshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif, and vocalistshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif (for vocalists, I give you the ultimate challenge, do King Diamond's stuff, and talk normally after that, now that's the ultimate challenge lol).

drumkits don't need all that time to get the hang of it, it's as I said the style that takes timehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif but if you don't have time, then, well you don't have timehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

@Keitan: yeah Satriani is pretty good guitarist, and he does play very fast with harmony.
Slayer is good for the short term, but they don't leave a lasting impression, as you said they don't have melody, they just add notes without thinking first if these notes fit or not. btw, old school metallica (up to ...and justice for all) used to make really fast solos, but they were cool sounding. Dream theater also have cool solos, but I don't know if it's the oldsongs or the new ones as I don't know when the songs were released http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

btw that's a cool image, I never knew you can drum on empty pie plates, lol, oh, and here's south park metallica, but I wonder why they made James lifty, as he's not:
http://fr.audiofanzine.com/img/membres/normal/1/2/12564.jpg

PS: cool sig. james http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Sandwarrior1990
03-19-2006, 06:33 AM
@Khaled: You know the mids you're talking ab0ut, is that just the 'mid' control or all of those there..?

PS: Thanks UK http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-19-2006, 07:26 AM
nah, I'm just talking about the mid control knob

PS: you're welcome

Sandwarrior1990
03-19-2006, 07:32 AM
okay, I'll try that asap

I'm having trouble using this vibrato arm after all, I put it in, and play a note and push it but nothing is happening :S

and, you know about connecting my amp to my sound card, how do I go about doing that?

UnDead_Knight1
03-19-2006, 08:10 AM
well, about the vibrato arm, I'll post a video tomorrow after my Eng exam.

about connecting the amp, just use the headphone out to connect it to the sound card, but as I said the included program apmlitube is pretty cool

Sandwarrior1990
03-19-2006, 08:37 AM
Oh thanks, good luck with that exam http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

simple as that then, is amplitube included with the x-fi card we talked about?

and a condesner mic is best for guitar recording, right?

DarK_PhoeniX_22
03-19-2006, 12:27 PM
omg
now i understand what pro means
http://www.johnpetrucci.com/equipment.html

Sandwarrior1990
03-19-2006, 12:53 PM
I http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif Planet Waves http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and many other guitaring manufacturers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

btw, John Pettrucis 7 string electric gutiar makes me annoyed when playing Dream Theater tabs, my guitar doesnt have enough strings http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
That is one helluva guitar though http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

DarK_PhoeniX_22
03-19-2006, 01:09 PM
hell yeah

lol
not enough strings
i guess that's an annoying thing
the same feeling as when i can't sing king diamond

Angelina_22
03-19-2006, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
@angilena: cool, yeah I know that song, Paul McCartney is pretty good, and yeah harmony rocks (without it songs would literally suck, lol)

and yeah bring the african drums, and accordeon, we'll quite a cool variations, cool.
oh, and don't forget bassistshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif, and vocalistshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif (for vocalists, I give you the ultimate challenge, do King Diamond's stuff, and talk normally after that, now that's the ultimate challenge lol).

drumkits don't need all that time to get the hang of it, it's as I said the style that takes timehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif but if you don't have time, then, well you don't have timehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ha ha, yes songs without harmony would be like....errrrrr...ahem for some reason my mind went completely blank right now...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif...but well you know what I mean.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Ah right, how could I forget about the bassists, I asume there are a few of those around here as well??http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
He he, about that ultimate challenge...I think I'll save it for a bit later considering I already have a bit of a weird throat problem due to some sort of cold which seems to be emerging...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif So yeah the challenege will be slightly postponed.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif But you know what they say, those who wait for something good...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Dark_Phoenix_22:
Yeah I like South Park.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Used to watch it quite a bit before, it's been ages since last time I saw it now though...

thecool9
03-19-2006, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by DarK_PhoeniX_22:
@ UK:wow. im listening to a flamenco by joe satriani.i understand what u meant by:he plays very quickly

even Slayer does quick solos but there is no melody in what they do.

@ UK,jimmy & Angie(u like south park,right?): here's a South park version of Dream Theater
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8468/dreamtheater9sq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
pretty cool...lol
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

LMAO!!!
I like how they did James, lol

UnDead_Knight1
03-20-2006, 01:04 AM
@James: thx
and yeah, amplitube is included with the X-Fi elite pro.
about condenser mics, yeah they are the best, but there are special condenser mics that are made especially for guitar micing.
and the best way to play 7 stringed tabs is to play them on 7 stringed guitar, or simply trying to alternate them in the other 6 strings (although the notes would sound brighter).
the best guitar accessories manufacturer is dunlop, they has the best effects and the only good picks (the most common pick is the dunlop tortex green(.88mm))

@Keitan: hell yeah, that's awesome rig, I never knew John uses so much digital stuff, but I don't know why he uses talk box a lot, as it will hurt him, he could atleast use the dunlop one, as it has better tone, and is safer.
btw he could replace the 3 Mesa Boogie Mark II C+ amp heads with 2 Mesa Boogie triple recto, they give more distorted tone, and sound cooler (tested), but his rack is truely awesome.
(also if he used the regular dunlop crybaby wah instead of the rack version it will last longer as it's more firmly build)

@Angie: yep no harmony=sh**
about bassists, well there's atleast 2, thecool9 is one, and I'm the other (although I'm not as good with bass as with guitar and drums). PS: take your time in the ultimate challenge, wait till your throat is 100% healed, as it skrews the voice (if you heard Diamond sing, you'll know what I'm talking about)

@thecool9: lol, James looks like Robert Plant in that pic.

PS: I once had to sing King Diamond over songs in a show, as David lost his voice, to this day I still don't know how I managed to it while playing lead guitar, although my voice was skrewed for a whole week, I was talking in annoying high pitched voice for a week lol, one thing for sure, I will never do this again. (but I wonder how David sings Diamond stuff, and still manages to talk in regular pitch)

btw, doesn't these guys look coolhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif (I hope these are allowed to post) :
http://www.misfits.com/Bigbmh2.jpeg
http://www.misfits.com/Bigbmh3.jpeg

and doesn't Doyle Wolfgang Von Frankenstein
has the coolest guitar:
http://www.the7thhouse.com/imagegallery/Misfits/gallery%20V/m99.jpg

and doesn't Jerry Only has the coolest bass:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/cisnenegro/misfits.jpg

and let's not forget the best vocalist of them all:
http://www.rockdetector.com/assets/img/artists/4939.jpg
http://www.metalwarrants.com/king%20diamond%2022.jpg
http://www.darkphotography.net/Media/Bands/KingDiamond/New_01/KingNew_03.jpg
http://www.musicpage.cz/mp/photo/v_diam04.jpg

yes it's gothic night, you hear, it's gothic night

DarK_PhoeniX_22
03-20-2006, 06:24 AM
click here to play mike portnoy's drums (http://www.mikeportnoy.com/monster/?menu=interact)

UnDead_Knight1
03-20-2006, 07:00 AM
cool, thx mate, although I'd prefer to play that current huge drumkit of his http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif, I can't stop staring at that amazing drumkit

Sandwarrior1990
03-20-2006, 11:16 AM
cool, Il be using that then
I'll also get a special condenser for my guitar http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Yeah dunlop are the best, but I like the Planet Waves symbol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Ill reply some more later I just wanted to post now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-20-2006, 12:55 PM
cool
yeah, the planet wave symbol does look cool
but I like the dunlop tortex symbol more, propably cause I look at it every dayhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

so, how do you like the tone of the vibrato arm?

Sandwarrior1990
03-21-2006, 07:32 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif oh, is that the toritoise one? that looks cool too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif I should order some of those green .88 picks atm I only have 2 Planetwave ones (.93 & .76)

well its very cool sounds, but I dont think I'll be using it that much, as you already said a wah pedal is way better, but it is fun too use http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

DarK_PhoeniX_22
03-21-2006, 10:27 AM
the big drumset with 3 toms is apparently a custom one he got made for himself.he talks as if he'd have put more toms if he had spacehttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-21-2006, 01:24 PM
@James: yeah the tortoise one, you woun't believe the difference a pick can make

cool, glad you enjoy it, and yeah wah is better, but if you play lots of 80s songs you might find it useful http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

@Keitan: well, almost all drumkits are custom made, the ones that aren't are the small ones with one flour tom, 4 toms, and 2 cymbals, those big ones everybody uses are custom made.
He'd propably add more toms to his Kit then, and propably add another stool, like it's not already evey drummer's dream http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

EDIT: I have a question that's been bugging me to the piano players: how do you play ghost notes on a piano? I mean on guitar we pick it very lite, so it would sound faintly, but how do you do this on a piano?

Sandwarrior1990
03-21-2006, 11:38 PM
UK, well I sued to play piano and I can answer that question http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif The harder you press the keys, the louder the note is, so if you press lightly it will be a very faint note, if your press hard it wil be a loud clear note.

UnDead_Knight1
03-22-2006, 04:16 AM
woha, cool, thx James, you don't know how much time that question bugged me, even though I don't have anything whatsoever with pianos, lol

here's a picture of the world's most talented guitar maker, Ed Roman himself (left), with Zakk Wylde (right) (the picture was taken in 1993):
http://www.celebrityrockstarguitars.com/rock/wylde_files/edzakk.jpg

and I know I don't like ML guitars, but man, Dimebag's razorback guitars made me like it again, here's a picture of the razorback http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif:
http://www.onstage.metallus.it/FotoProdotto/1769.jpg

I just hope that razor on the 12th fret isn't sharphttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

DarK_PhoeniX_22
03-22-2006, 08:38 AM
i think jimmy's gonna like this (http://themes.belchfire.net/themes_file-5241.html)

Sandwarrior1990
03-22-2006, 10:18 AM
Woah, UK, That guitar does rock http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif looks very nice! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
even though V and Explorer doesnt mix that well, it still looks great!

@keitan: Which Jimmy? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

DarK_PhoeniX_22
03-22-2006, 12:27 PM
jimmy james sandwarrior1990

UnDead_Knight1
03-22-2006, 12:32 PM
yeah, explorers and Vs don't look good mixed together, but dimebag has found a way to make them look cool, and he sure did a ******* good job, that dude simply rocks. Dimebag has done the impossible, he made the ML guitars look cool, and sharp.
Keitan, that's one cool startup screen, although my current one is a misfits one.

EDIT: to all metallica fans, this (http://www.metallica.com/index.asp?item=100338) might interest you, this is one issue of Kerrang! mag. I woun't miss

Sandwarrior1990
03-22-2006, 12:35 PM
One day, Im guna design a guitar like that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

@Keitan: Heh, that is very cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif although its a family PC so I cant use my own startup screen http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

DarK_PhoeniX_22
03-22-2006, 12:37 PM
@ uk: cool.i posted it coz i know that most of u like metallica a lot.
though ud have preferred this startup screen with it's red& orange colours

UnDead_Knight1
03-22-2006, 12:47 PM
yeah, the original colurs are better, I used to have one with the ride the lightening cover, but now I have a misfits one, and I really like it, this is my current startup skreen (just the picture ofcourse):
http://www.misfits.com/Bigfmcover.jpeg

DarK_PhoeniX_22
03-22-2006, 12:54 PM
cool one
but i prefer simpler startup screens.simple but cool

hmmmmmmmm..........do these guys actually play with these gloves & gauntlets on?it doesn't annoy em?

UnDead_Knight1
03-22-2006, 01:06 PM
yeah, they do, and they also go live with this devilock hair, they simply rock, but their current lineup stinks, only the Bassist Jerry Only is left from the original band, and they kinda lost their style, they don't even have devilock hair (only Only has it), which is the band's trademark.

and I don't know if it annoys them or not, but once we made a tribute show to the misfits, and had to dress and have makeup like them (it was on halloween), took 1,5 to make me look like Doyle Wolfgang Von Frankenstein (the one on the far right), and that devilock hair is very annoying, but the gloves didn't annoy me (yeah he does wear gloves to shows, as can be seen in the picture I posted earlier on the last page), one thing for sure though, I'll never have a devilock again in my life

Sandwarrior1990
03-23-2006, 08:36 AM
The misfits just look too cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
My favourite one is DWVF http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif he rocks!
but he's the one that left, right UK?

anyway, i dont have a subscription to Kerrang magazing so I'll see if I can just get that one off issue, I read something there saying about not including the UK...? :S

UnDead_Knight1
03-23-2006, 12:40 PM
yeah, the misfits just look plain cool, and Doyle Wolfgang Von Frankenstien is my fav. one too.
He isn't the only one that's left, all of them left, exept Jerry Only, the current lineup is:
vocals: Jerry Only
guitar: Dez Cadena
bass: Jerry Only
drums: Robo

too bad they couldn't keep Dr. Chud, but he left fot good, they got Marky Ramone, but he just was there for a period, he did record the album Projrct 195 with Jerry and Dez, now the current drummer is Robo. They're speaking of bringing DWVF back, but it's what Jerry says that goes, but as DWVF is Jerry's youngest brother I don't think that would be a problem, the one I want to see most is Michale Graves, as Jerry isn't very good with vocals, he's great bassist, but not so good as a vocalist.

I don't have a Kerrang! subscription either, there isn't much interesting stuff there, guitar world is the only mag. I'm currently subscribed to. and I think they will be in the UK, and if it doesn't it's not that big loss, I mean it's not like metallica are the ones who are playing it.

Sandwarrior1990
03-23-2006, 02:10 PM
Why did they all leave? :S

it would be good if they got as many members back as possible http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif then they could go back to the way that most fans liked them and the best lineup they had http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Oh well, Ill try to get it, but if I miss it, like you said, Im not missing out on THAT much.

UnDead_Knight1
03-23-2006, 02:31 PM
well, I also wonder why they all left, Dr. Chud and Graves all made other bands, I wonder why they left, but I think the most I wonder about is Doyle, why the heck did he leave when the power is in his brother's hand? but it looks like he's coming back, I hope they will return to this lineup:
vocals: Michale Graves
Guitar: Doyle Wolfgang Von Frankenstein & Dez Cadena
Bass: Jerry Only
Drums: Dr. Chud
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b130/UnDead-Knight/1999wcwposter.jpg

and a better picture of the annihilator, Doyle's cool guitar:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b130/UnDead-Knight/annihilator.gif

Sandwarrior1990
03-24-2006, 08:25 AM
man they are such a cool looking band!!! Im going to have to buy many albums now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
btw, I just ordered the Famous Monsters misfits album, and was wondering if you could recomend another misfits album?

UnDead_Knight1
03-24-2006, 11:28 AM
well, all misfits albums rock, my fav. one is famous monsters, American psycho is also a great album, cuts from the crypt is also recommended, even the album project 1950 is cool one, even though Doyle and Graves are not in it, the old albums are also cool, for me I like anything by the misfits, just hope Robo and Dez woun't ruin the misfits, we'll know in the next album which is currently in recording progress.
oh, and welcome to the Fiend Club James
now go and tatto this:
http://www.stomp.com.au/coverscan/490000/486660.jpg

Sandwarrior1990
03-24-2006, 02:57 PM
Cool, well I just ordered Famou Monsters right now, so I'll be listening to it soon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
It would be good to get all the members back, sounds fairly possible too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Thanks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Im officialy a fiend, muahahaha *tatooed* http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-24-2006, 03:20 PM
cool, welcome the fiend club mate, now for the rules, listen carefuly, these are important:
the rules are: love the misfits
and yeah, it would be great to have all the members back, but it only looks like DWVF has a chance of returning officially, but that's all I need, Robo is getting better, and Jerry will get better at singing if he keeps singing (but Graves still has better voice).

btw, now that you're officially a fiend, go get your master fiend a bottle of root beer j/k but what you have to do as a fiend is listen to one song to the fits a day, that's the rules, I don't write them, just inforce them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif, so welcome to the fiend club, don't forget to listen to the fiend club song, and know it by heart, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gifas it's the password to our hideout.

btw, it's better for you not to see Dr. Chud after leaving the misfits, he cut down is devilock, and dyed his hair orange, better not look at him

Sandwarrior1990
03-25-2006, 12:06 PM
Yeah, well if they get as many back as they can then thats okay.
I like rule 1
and rule 2
and the others

which one's the fiend club song?

as if he cut his devilock off http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif but as he's not in the misfits anymore then thats okay I spose...

UnDead_Knight1
03-25-2006, 01:04 PM
yeah, it would be great to have all the fits back again, and the fiend club rules rock, don't they

the fiend club song is the one called "fiend club", pretty original eh?

well, it looks like Dr. Chud is coming back to his senses, his hair is black again, and he's growing a new devilock, you simply can't defeat the devilock http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

one more thing, now that you're officially in the fiend club, you need to go to Doyle's birthday party on the 15th of september

Sandwarrior1990
03-25-2006, 01:10 PM
they sure do http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
oh, very original name, haha

That is good to know, it's like stuck in his mind now, can't turn back once you join http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
btw, how much is the average price for a bass guitar these days?

UnDead_Knight1
03-25-2006, 03:10 PM
well, once you've had a devilock, it's hard to get rid of it.
for bass guitars, well it depends on the quality of the guitar, you would get good ones in the 200$-500$ range, the prices are like the guitars, but remember that you'll also need a bass amp, as guitar amps would explude if you use them with bass guitar, line 6 released a new line of bass amps, I still didn't get to test them, but my bassist got one, I'll ask him about the amp if you want

Sandwarrior1990
03-25-2006, 03:14 PM
thats quite a good price
what does explude mean? like, not play the sound correctly?
that'd be great thanks, I'm pretty interested in all this stuff. If it's line 6 amp then it must rock http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-25-2006, 03:32 PM
yeah, the prices are quite reasonable.
well, in explude I mean BOOM, KABOOM, whatever you like, what I mean is it will literally explode, it may look cool live, but I don't think that's what you want.
well, tomorrow I'm going to Victor to finish the physics project, so I'll check it out then, just remind me to post a review, as I might forget

Sandwarrior1990
03-26-2006, 07:31 AM
Well, whenever I choose to get one, I will be able to afford it so thats good.
Woah. that aint good... could get injured by that happening :S Would look cool live, but thats not the point http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Well tomorrow is now today so I'll remind you on Monday cause of the time zone difference.

UnDead_Knight1
03-26-2006, 01:03 PM
cool then.
and ofcourse it would look cool live, but it wouldn't be safe, besides there are other, safer, ways to make the amp explode, but I don't do it, as amps cost too much moneyhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

well, I'm currently at Victor's, and I gotta say, they rock, it has all the tones we need, and some more, well, to be honest, it has 6 amp models, but we only use 2-3 in our music, and in any cover song we did, well, I'm not what you can call your bass pro, but I can tell it's great from Victor's way of talking about it, and from the way it plays, you can hear what this baby got to offer here (http://www.line6.com/lowdown/)

one word of cation, it might blow your insides, lliterally

Sandwarrior1990
03-27-2006, 11:04 AM
yeah, and Im sure fireworks and pyro stuff look way cooler (and lasers, can't forget the lasers) and a hell of a lot safer, and probably cheaper then buying loads of new amps everytime you play live, but hey http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Coolness! Well from that website the bass amps look great, and IMO the Spider 112 is better than the website says, so it must be very good!

I love that feeling, all the bass, vibrating through your body
muahahah http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-27-2006, 11:25 AM
yeah, pyro is simply a must in a psychedelic rock show, and how can we forget the lasers? they are simply too cool to forget, and let's not forget the smoke, which makes the lasers look cooler, and at the start of the show the band coming out of the smoke, simply cool, and it is cheaper than buying amps, which cost a bundle each http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

yeah, with line 6 stuff you can get great tones, but the factory defult channels suck, maybe one or 2 are good, so the plug and play musicians should stay away from line6 product, actually they should stay away from music all together, cause you need a bit of tweeking to get that sweet tone.

yeah, the feeling of bass vibrating through the body simply rocks, and it can move you, litirally http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif bass rocks, just be sure to keep the bass on low next time you go to the mountains, as it may cause avalanche.

PS: I sent a demo tape to Gorgeous Frankenstein with me singing misfits, metallica, and Diamond stuff, and also stated that I can also play guitar and drums with demos of me singing and drumming, and playing guitar, and David also did the same as me (without the drumming part), it would be cool if one of us (or both) get to play in that band, WITH DOYLE, they still don't have a drummer, it would be great if I got the drummer part, and David gets the vocalist part, it would make Pulse famous in an instant http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

Sandwarrior1990
03-27-2006, 11:43 AM
yeah, smoke just makes the lasers seem awesome. if it's a cloudy day, then shine the lasers up on the clouds, man that looks so cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
yeah, what do you mean by plug and play musicians?

I remember you saying about that huge bass amp, and they turned it on, and it blasted you, muahahahhaha!

Man thats guna be so amazingl awesome if one (or both) of you guys get in!!! best of luck with that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
so you'd get to hang out in a band with Doyle and make Pulse an almost instant success http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-27-2006, 12:00 PM
yeah, lasers on the clouds rock, let all know we're trashing the city tonight http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif
plug and play musicians are those who just buy the stuff, plug them and play, without tweeking them, and then most likely yo complain that they suck

yeah, it was an accedint, but looks like people thought it was part of the special effects, so I'm not complaining

it would indeed be amazing just to get to meet Doyle, and his cool annihilator, and to be able to play with him is just plain awesome, besides if I get to work with him maybe I can talk him into going back with the misfits, but still keeping Gorgeous Frankenstein ofcourse

Sandwarrior1990
03-27-2006, 12:16 PM
you could put the Misfits skull trademark on a laser into the clouds, that'd tell everybody http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
Okay, does adjusting the settings on the amp count as tweaking?

yeah, the annihilator simply rocks! that'd just be unimaginably cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
so then you'd have two bands, and so would he, hehe http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-27-2006, 12:37 PM
yup, blame it on the misfits, it's them trashing, we're just humble fiends doing what the masters told us to do http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

I wonder if we'll ever see another cool guitar like the annihilator http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif
yeah. I would have 2 bands, and so does he, but atleast I'd be playing with my idol's idol, and my 4th fav. guitarist, my fav. guitarists list goes like this:
1) Kirk Hammett, you simply can't not love this Philippine, curly haired guitarist
2) Jimi Hendrix, you simply can't ignore the best guitarist of them all, and he's lefty too, that's gotta count for something
3) Jimmy Page, simply awesome, you can't ignore the dude that played stairway to heaven, immigrant song, Kashmir, and whole lotta love
4) Doyle Wolfgang Von Frankenstein, come on, his name and looks alone are enough to give him place in this list, but he also is awesome guitarist

EDIT: lol, forgot to mention that adjusting the settings on the amp is precisly what tweaking is, it could take a min or 10 hours, depends on the amp, and your skills at tweaking

Sandwarrior1990
03-28-2006, 07:41 AM
When Im in a band, and got a succesful album out I'll design an awesome guitar and get it made http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif it'll definately compete with the annihilator!

cool!
Well my fav guitarists are Kirk Hammett, jimi hendrix, page DWVF, Dave Murray and dan Donegan
I like some more than others but thats my top favourite list http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

well I do a bit of both, I plug and play, and tweak, so im a mix http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
btw, I just got the Famous Monsters album and Kill 'em all in the post w00t!

UnDead_Knight1
03-28-2006, 12:06 PM
well, congratulations on your new albums, just beware, as this day you'll not do anything exept headbanging, and propably also moshing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

well, looks like your fav. 4 guitarists are the same as mine, cool http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

well, you only need to tweek the equipment the first time, once you get a kick *** tone, no need to keep tweeking, is there? unless you got a modeling amp ofcourse, in this case you're propably tweeking to get other tones for other songs, pretty cool stuff

oh, and listen to the four horsemen, awesome rock, and listen to devil doll, it's one of the bonus tracks on famous monsters, awesome song

Sandwarrior1990
03-28-2006, 12:14 PM
yeah! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif
well I already can't stop playing the slower part of motorbreath http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif its addictive! and scream! I just love that song

yeah, I've just been changing mine, to one that suits Metallica, and one that suits misfits, and just one clean one, and I have one channel left.. hmm..

UnDead_Knight1
03-28-2006, 12:34 PM
yeah, playing a really cool song can be addictive, but it's awesome, and is so much annoying to those who don't like metal http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

cool, well, maybe the last one should your own one.

try to play helena, it's awesome song by the fits, and is pretty easy to play, exept the part a bit before "cutting with the knive, blood is spelling everywhere..." till after the part "her beauty is so illogical..."

Sandwarrior1990
03-28-2006, 01:08 PM
Yeah! pretty much all of my family dislike metal music, so they dont see why i like playing these songs, I guess they'll never understand. Annoying to them, kick *** to me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

yeah, I'll make it a cool one too

yeah, it rocks! weird lyrics, but definately fun to play

DarK_PhoeniX_22
03-28-2006, 02:43 PM
http://www.classicbands.com/top20.htm
might be interesting

http://tangentsoft.net/audio/cmoy-tutorial/

UnDead_Knight1
03-28-2006, 03:18 PM
hey, thx Keitan
I wonder why Jimi Hendrix wasn't mentioned in the 60s hits, and why Led Zeppelin wheren't mentioned in the 70s hits, as those 2 bands where the most famous at that time

but I like that pocket amp idea, sounds interesting, thx for posting it Keitan, gotta try that sometime

Sandwarrior1990
03-29-2006, 10:24 AM
That pocket amp looks cool! but I dont get why you would need it, is it only for transferring guitar straight to heasdphones?

UnDead_Knight1
03-29-2006, 11:45 AM
hmm, it's good for do it yourself project, it would be cool to see how it would turn out, but as for just transfarring guitar straight to headphones there's the rockman by dunlop (http://www.jimdunlop.com/products/electronics/rockman/index.html), but it costs 120$ though

btw, James are you still looking for a way to record yourself on the computer?

Sandwarrior1990
03-29-2006, 12:23 PM
Cool I'll check that out http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

yeah I am, at the moment Im going for a condenser mic.

UnDead_Knight1
03-29-2006, 12:42 PM
well, I was checking the line 6 website, and saw this (http://www.line6.com/toneport/) it's way cheaper than the X-Fi Elite pro, it's USB powered, and it's 200$ for the big version and 170$ (I think...) for the regular version, it has a regular 1\4 inch guitar/bass in, and an XLR in for mics (usually condenser mics has XLR), and it comes with a recording software, which also includes models, so you can go directly, the models are line 6 models, so they propably sound awesome.
gotta check if the XLR input works also for the vetta, if so then I'll most likely get one myself (after I get the vetta ofcourse) for when I want to record at home, as this is a line 6 product, it's propably a good quality, but you better check the system requirements, as they're slightly high

Sandwarrior1990
03-29-2006, 12:52 PM
Cool thanks man! im guna spend ages researching this now, the UX1 is way more suited for me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif yay http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-29-2006, 01:13 PM
well, from what I've read, the UX2 is basically for those who want to record several instruments at the same time, but now you'll propably need to get an XLR condenser mic, so you can record yourself singing and playing at the same timehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, so now you woun't have an excuse not to record yourself playing and post it here, so you better show us your skills first thing you get this, or else... lol j\k ofcourse http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sandwarrior1990
03-29-2006, 01:22 PM
Cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif My singing is absolutely amazing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif honestly...
Well i should be able to afford a XLR mic and the UX1 right now, i knew saving this cash for something was a good idea

I might post some stuff http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif but after only 3 months of guitar dont expect much http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif hehe

UnDead_Knight1
03-29-2006, 01:32 PM
meh, half of today's guitarists don't even know how to fret properly, not to mention playing the guitar, and they still sell records, so I woun't worry too much if I were you, just use a really dirty tone

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif you can use effects for your singing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Sandwarrior1990
03-30-2006, 10:31 AM
I know how to fret properly, and play the guitar.. I think http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
even if I was going to make a song, the first would definately be a cover song http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-31-2006, 01:49 AM
if when you play there's no buzz, then that's all you need to impress naive none guitarist folks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif, but I'm sure you can empress me (and as you know, I'm not easily empressed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif), just keep cool, don't hesitate, and don't get nervous cause then you'll cramp and woun't be able to play anyway.

cool, cover songs simply rock, it gives you more of the same cool stuff, but a bit different so it's not the same, simply awesome.

it's a metallica or godsmack cover I presume?http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

so, what do you say about velvet revolver? their lineup is:
SCOTT WEILAND â€" Stone Temple Pilots SLASH â€" Guns N’ Roses, Slash’s Snakepit DUFF â€" Guns N’ Roses MATT SORUM â€" Guns N’ Roses, Slash’s Snakepit, The Cult DAVE KUSHNER â€" Infectious Grooves
makes you wonder why Guns'n'roses weren't this good, makes you wonder if it's something with Axel

Sandwarrior1990
03-31-2006, 09:21 AM
the only buzz I get is when I move to a fret too quickly and dont get it central, or on my top string, if you pick that hard it buzzes slightly annoying..
well I can play NEM smooth...ish...

well it'll most likely be one of those, but first I need the recording stuff, and then just need to choose a song and stick to it for now.

cool lineup http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-31-2006, 12:34 PM
well, with time you woun't even get that buzz, but yeah it's annoying when the top string buzzes when you pick it too hard
well, NEM is a great song, so go for it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
or you might go with enter sandman, for a heavier song

yeah, the lineup is pretty cool, and Slash finally plays solos that impress me, I never knew he had this in him

Sandwarrior1990
03-31-2006, 01:03 PM
I can easily believe that, seeing how much I improved over only 3 months http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
It sure is, yeah NEM and Enter Sandman will be my first attempts http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif 2 very cool songs.

Well I've only heard 'Slither' by Velvet Revolver so I cant really comment, hehe

UnDead_Knight1
03-31-2006, 01:20 PM
well, as long as there's will, there's a talent at fast developmenthttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
cool, I'll be waiting to hear you playing, but don't forget to sing also http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Velvet Revolver's Slither is better than Metallica's slither, here I said it, and the solo in that song is pretty cool, oh, and the main lick also rocks, Slash you've surprised me

Sandwarrior1990
03-31-2006, 01:37 PM
For sure http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
erm, maybe I'll stick with the guitar at first, leave the singing for some other time <STRIKE>not very soon</STRIKE> http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Nah, I think I could sing like kirk does in Metallica like the backing stuff, but i'd be useless just with my voice.

Is it the same song? or just called slither? and yeah! that lick is so cool http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-31-2006, 01:53 PM
cool, guitar rocks in so many levels and forms. well, singing can be pretty hard at first, but it's pretty easy, unless you're singing Diamond stuff, then may God be help you

nah, it's not the same song, just have the same name, metallica's slither is just a filler on reload, too bad. anyway VR rocks, so I'm happy, cause we get more cool songs http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Sandwarrior1990
03-31-2006, 03:23 PM
so true http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif well I'll slowly but surely increase my singing skills http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I dont like it when they do that, just make songs to fill in the gaps, if they havent got a song to fil the gap then it should just be left empty. like the first few albums had few songs on them but pretty much all of them rocked http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

UnDead_Knight1
03-31-2006, 04:26 PM
cool, if you practice your singing you'd sing Diamond stuff in no time, but beware, it may f*ck your voice

yeah, I hate it when they put cr*p instead of quality, it just reduces the overall score of the album, and give critics something to critisize, it's just bad, besides if you can't fill it with your own songs, put some cover songs in it, they did it in kill'em all, and they wanted to do it in St.Anger, it's not like if you play cover songs then you stink or something, it would just give us, fans, the ability to say how our fav. band makes classical songs sound so much cooler

Sandwarrior1990
04-01-2006, 04:34 AM
Yeah I'll be careful of that. Don't want my voice going how yours went when you tried singing Diamond. but nothing can compare to his singing, it can come close but thats about it..

did they put some cover songs in Kill 'em all? which ones are they?
some bands rush their albums, and end up disappointing fans. But hey, sometimes when you got a lot of good ideas you're allowed to rush it.

UnDead_Knight1
04-01-2006, 12:09 PM
yeah, nothing can compare with Diamond's voice, he's simply the best, the true King of rock'n'roll, not that Elvis Presly, but I wonder how he got so good in so little time, he sucked when he was with Black Rose, his singing was the weak link in that band (no, it's not april fools joke), but that band didn't release any albums, Diamond later released an album of them practicing, but now he's the greatist, so no point in compaining, is there?

yeah, they did put cover songs in kill'em all, they are the bonus tracks: Am I Evil, and Blitzkreig.

yeah, I hate it when bands rush their work, they just end up disappointing us fans, but the 60s and 70s bands used to release an album every year, and sometimes even more than one album in one year, and the albums rocked, ahh the good times http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

Sandwarrior1990
04-01-2006, 12:13 PM
Definately http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif maybe he had some inspiration from something, or maybe he just finalyl got the hang of singing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

strange.. I didnt get those tracks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
mine goes upto 'Metal Militia' then ends..

more than one album in a year?! woah... that must be so cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

EDIT:
you know the ESP guitars, right? (ESP Website (http://www.espguitars.com/guitars.html)) well is it worth buying a more expensive guitar, I mean.. is there really that much of a difference between expensive and cheap?

DarK_PhoeniX_22
04-01-2006, 12:18 PM
YouTube is sometthing gr8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nPXqa3PRYS0

UnDead_Knight1
04-01-2006, 12:30 PM
he propably finally got the hang of it, either way, it's awesome

hmm, will they are bonus tracks, so I guess it's a special edition, anyhow, they are on garage inc

yeah, that was awesome, too bad we weren't born yet, so we could enjoy this "feature"

usually there is, as more expensive ones tend to have stronger pickups, and better wood, so it would sound better, feel better, and would be more durable, besides, you get the ability to brag

check this one (http://www.espguitars.com/guitars_f.html) out, it was used by James during the madly in anger with the world tour to play frantic

Sandwarrior1990
04-01-2006, 12:36 PM
oh well if its on Garage.inc then thats okay

wel maybe some music is getting repetitive these days and bands are trying to be original still.

I'll go for wither a pricey normal guitar, or maybe a signature on http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
Im liking that bragging idea, hehe

sweet guitar! it suits frantic a lot

UnDead_Knight1
04-01-2006, 12:58 PM
too bad garage inc. doesn't have the song commando, which was originally played by the ramones

yeah, music is getting repetitive, but lots of bands stink anyway, the least they can do is release albums more frequently

cool, but signature ones are too pricey, but they do look cool, yeah braggining is the best

it does, doesn't it, it looks frantic. When I first saw that guitar I thought I thought it was a hetfield signature guitar, looks like I was wronghttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Sandwarrior1990
04-01-2006, 01:12 PM
I havent heard that song before, I take it it's good then http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

so then they release lots of stinking albums? hehe well maybe they mysteriously get better... somehow..

yeah.. well I'll go for one of the normal guitars higher up in the price range then. I've been thinking about an Eclipse or Acoustic/Electric hybrid guitar.

it reminds me of a violin for some reason, one seriously cool looking violin at that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

UnDead_Knight1
04-01-2006, 01:40 PM
oh, it's good, it's ramones song, so it's gotta rock, as the ramones rock

I wish that they will get better, for one reason, we get more quality rock to headbang and mosh to http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

cool. the Eclipse is pretty cool les paul style guitar, better graphics than the les paul. you mean semi acoustic? those are good, but only if you tend to play more clean, and acoustic like tones, it's bad for distortion tones.

Violen, eh? I wonder if there's a violen that looks that cool http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

Sandwarrior1990
04-01-2006, 01:47 PM
cool, I'll try to hear it somehow. Probably wont b anytime soon though..

Mosh! at the Download festival people regularly break bones moshing.. its not pretty..

Oh, well I wont get a semi-acoustic then, and I actually meant the Viper guitar, got a bit muddled up http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif They look very cool.

Now im guna try to find a violin that looks that cool! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

UnDead_Knight1
04-01-2006, 01:54 PM
cool, I'll send it to you via MSN

woha, break bones? I've heard about moshing causing injuries, but not bone breaking, it's good I stay away from the mosh pit then.

cool, get the eclipse, but put on in some cool stickers, it would look even cooler http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

goodluck, but I think you'd propably spend less time if you just photoshop one http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Sandwarrior1990
04-01-2006, 02:16 PM
Thanks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Yeah, its pretty violent, thats why IF I go Im staying out of the mosh pit for sure.

Yeah, well I already have the Live **** Metallica sticker and ebay can sort all the others out for me.

ooohh,, great idea, I migt just try that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

UnDead_Knight1
04-01-2006, 02:21 PM
np

wonder what people find in moshing anyway, I never really liked it, it looks like you're escaping a vampire bat tring to suck your blood, it would be better to be the vampire

cool, good old reliable ebay, eh?

cool, I'd like to see that, propably gonna blow all violen players away, just beware not to make it too gothicyhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

DarK_PhoeniX_22
04-01-2006, 02:25 PM
@ Khaled: u were right.john petrucci looks better with his long hair. but i won't say that his spikes don't suit him

UnDead_Knight1
04-01-2006, 02:30 PM
yeah, the spiky hair does suite him pretty well, but with long hair he looks more metalheadic

Sandwarrior1990
04-01-2006, 02:33 PM
meh, its just for people that think they're hardcore when all they want is an excuse to get really violent.

ebay indeed http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif I'll get straight to it...<STRIKE>not to</STRIKE> gothicy you say? sure thing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

UnDead_Knight1
04-01-2006, 02:40 PM
yeah, it is, well, I stay away from it, I don't want anything harming my arms or legs, cause I wanna rock

ebay rocks, but I hate all those bidders there, they make stuff more expensive.
hey, I love gothic design, but violen players are usually listen to classical stuff, and not the cool music, so they might not like it very much, they may say it's too evil http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Sandwarrior1990
04-01-2006, 03:25 PM
Its better to watch other stupid people get hurt then to get hurt yourself http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif and I dont wana break my fingers,wouldnt be able to play guitar for a long time...

I hate it when you;re just about to win a bid and someone bids at the last second http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

so, do you rekon its worth gettin a wah pedal next time a buy a guitar http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Elfin-Warrior
04-01-2006, 03:43 PM
Yes i play piano and dont intend to stop http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif I have been playing for about 8 years and can play about 20 songs without music but im struggling a little now for some reason. probably need to practice more.

UnDead_Knight1
04-01-2006, 04:04 PM
@elfin-warrior: cool, piano is pretty cool instrument, how long have you been playing? btw your user name and sig look awfully familiar, have you had other account?

@Captin James T. Kirk: yeah, it's better watch the fools getting hurt, rather than being hurt yourself

it's the most dissappointing thing to happen, but some bidders are just plain stupid, they try to win in any case, even if it means paying more than getting it brand new, will, I love them when it comes to selling stuff http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

yeah, absolutely, wah pedals rock, but be sure to get a dunlop one, as they are the best sounding, others get either too bassy, or too high pitched when you rovk it, not good, dunlop's ones are just perfect, the Hammett way

Sandwarrior1990
04-01-2006, 04:10 PM
haha, stupid bidders. muahaha http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Cool, so how much money do these pedals cost then? Im thinking about â£120-ish.. the hammett way works for me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

btw, heres that violin we talked about http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5103/darkviolin7nr.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=darkviolin7nr.jpg)

UnDead_Knight1
04-01-2006, 04:25 PM
yeah, I actually earned money when I selled my Audigy 2 ZS sound card, lol

well, wah pedals usually range from 200$-240$, will, that's the MSRP, you'll propably get it cheaper from a dealer, I'd suggest getting the 240$ one, as it has more wah ranges, but if you only gonna use one tone, get aa cheaper 200$ one, here's (http://www.jimdunlop.com/products/electronics/crybaby/index.html) the dunlop wah pedals, read the specefications, and deside which one meets your needs, Kirk Hammett uses the cheaper ones, as those were the only ones available back then, but he still uses it as it rocks, and it's all he needs.

PS: awesome violen

EDIT: on amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=nb_ss_gw/104-9943828-0419112?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=dunlop+crybaby+) you can get the wah pedal for 110$ for the best ones, awesome

Sandwarrior1990
04-02-2006, 05:36 AM
Coolness, Ill definately look into that wah pedal on amazon then http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I have a question, you know the pickups? wlel is it better to get EMG pickups or just regular ones? it may cost a tiny bit more but is the quality worth it?

UnDead_Knight1
04-02-2006, 10:37 AM
cool, amazon it is then http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

ofcourse I know the pickupshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif define regular ones, if you mean the ones on the ESP guitars, then the EMG humbucker pickups are the best on the ESP guitars, unless you specefically order something else, but yeah the quality is sure worth it, as the EMG pickups are more powerful, and give you crunchier, and richer sound.

btw, if you're looking for cool guitar design, then you diffenatly should look at Dean Guitars (http://www.deanguitars.com) as they have the best guitar designs available, they are the ones who made the awesome Dimebag Darrel's guitars, most noted the Razorback guitar, and the 2006 line of designs is awesome, they even have accoustics that look cool, they have a V accoustic w00t w00t, it looks awesome, but I wonder how's the sound, guess I have to check it out http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Sand_master
04-02-2006, 12:59 PM
Never imagined this will be the thread ill post again after 6 month... lol
little before POP came out i started to play the guitar cuz... well why not my dad have classic and electric http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif .
i aint no pro i am playing guitar since october I think.
for now i am learing the ladders and just finished the good old "Stairway To Haven" bet u all learned it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
In case u wonder what my guitar is because its from my dad i have Cataluna classic guitar and one of many Gibson fakes electric-Gherson they from the 70-80 i think

Sandwarrior1990
04-02-2006, 02:27 PM
@UK: Cool, Ill try out the ESP EMG then http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Sound quality is one of the most important things afterall.

a V accoustic?! COOL wouldnt that sound slightly strange though, cause of the differently shaped body?

@Sand master: Me and UK both play the guitar too, and Ive onlt been playing for 3 months so you've been playing a while longer than me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

UnDead_Knight1
04-02-2006, 02:37 PM
hey, welcome back Sand_Master, long time no see http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
cool, yet another guitarist onto the mix http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
you're playing since October, and already know how to play Stairway to Heaven? I'm impressed, seriously, as STH isn't an easy song to play, Page's skills are propably only second to Hendrix's.
cool, you have a vintage guitar from the 70s-80s, awesome, guitars are like wine, they get better with time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. Seriously man, don't stop as you have a promising talent. what amp do you use? and what picks? oh, and if you need tips bout guitar, just come to mehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

EDIT: cool, try it, you woun't regret it, and there are 2 things that are the most important when getting a new guitar, the sound quality, and the shape, it's gotta be awesome, so you'd rock harderhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
well, it looks cool, so that's one of the 2 things I care about, but Dean is a great guitar making company, so I'm sure it would sound cool, even if it doesn't sound like the classical accoustic, propably they shaped it for metalheads like ushttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

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Sand_master
04-03-2006, 12:26 AM
HI knight long time no seen ha ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I just bought a new amp week ago Zoom Fire-36
it have pretty cool effects and sound
One thing for sure its better then my previous one that cost 25$ lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Oh and have no idea what picks mean http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif maybe its because its a word i dunno or i dont know what it do

Sandwarrior1990
04-03-2006, 01:30 AM
A pick is the little piece of a smooth-triangle shaped plastic (also known as a plectrum) that you 'pick' the strings with.
I dont think its used much in acoustic playing but I could be wrong, I find playing accoustic easier without a pick anyway.
But seeing as you're playing Electric Guitar then you're guna need some picks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif (unless you already ahd one jut didnt know what its was called) Hope I helped http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sand_master
04-03-2006, 01:43 AM
Oh i think i got it u mean that triangle thing that is requrie for doin pro ladders and solo
Or just for better sound
Ahh i am not good explaing am I ? lol
1 picture worth 1000 words:

http://media.zzounds.com/media/brand,zzounds/p1782b-fd6697415a8f8d8ff7dc13b9ec691c8d.jpg

So yeah I got 5 - 3 hard , 2-light
Cant tell u there name cuz I cant read connected english letters... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

EDIT:
Knight i didnt know why u imppresed that i know to play STH incase u thought I learned the solo at the ending (that the most cool part) i didnt learned it but my teacher told me that it will come one day....
For now i know only 1 Solo - Pink Floyd Wish u were here, the first one before the singing starting

UnDead_Knight1
04-03-2006, 08:38 AM
ZOOM amp, eh? I never tried those, but I have a couple of their effects processors, which give cool soundshttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif
yeah, that's the pick. light ones are often used in accoustic guitars, and medium and heavy ones are used in electric, picks rocks
about why I'm impressed, it's because even the first part of the song is fairly hard for someone playing less than 8 months.
whish you were here solo is pretty cool soundinghttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
oh, and try deep purple songs (if you still haven't) they are easy to play, but sound awesome.
oh, I might post tabs of some famous songs later, but I'm going to sleep now, cya guys tomorrow

Sand_master
04-03-2006, 11:08 AM
Hmm Deep purple if it a band name never heard it :P
I'd like to try them though if u recommend them
If u know an easy yet cool song u are more then welcome to post it here or a link if u can http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Sandwarrior1990
04-03-2006, 11:32 AM
Some cool and easy to play songs are:
Metallica- Enter Sandman

erm.. thats it for now, hehe, if I find many more I'll be sure to post them here http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

UnDead_Knight1
04-03-2006, 01:48 PM
how can you not know deep purplehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif? they're propably one of the most influential bands ever, they've been rocking since 1968, anyway here's the intro (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/d/deep_purple/smoke_on_the_water_intro_tab.htm) to their song smoke on the water (which is the first song lots of rock stars learned first)

and here's BURN (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/d/deep_purple/burn_ver2_tab.htm) another one of their songs.
both songs are standard EADGBe tuning, and they both simply rock, well deep purple has 22 albums, and I have yet to find a song that I don't like.

tell me if you want more

Sandwarrior1990
04-03-2006, 02:17 PM
@UK: 21 albums?! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif Thats so cool if all of the songs are good. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

UnDead_Knight1
04-03-2006, 02:24 PM
actually it's 22 albums, not 21, and yeah, all of them rocks big time, man I love deep purple

Sandwarrior1990
04-03-2006, 04:19 PM
I just found another easy song to play, Dance of Death by Iron Maiden. Great song, I never realised it was so simple http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and playing STH is always fun http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

UnDead_Knight1
04-03-2006, 04:50 PM
yeah, DoD is easy to play, about STH it's propably cause Page has the power to possess people when they try to play that song, so he plays the song through their hands http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

another easy yet cool song is "One" by Deep Purple, and no it's not the same as Metallica's "One"

thecool9
04-03-2006, 09:57 PM
Deep Purple's awesome http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I just finished learning "pictures of home" on bass, solo and all it was a great song to learn. I'm planning to learn a couple other songs off of machine head as well. Maybe "highway star"...

UnDead_Knight1
04-04-2006, 04:25 AM
with Deep Purple you just can't go wrong http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

pictures of home has a really nice bass part, so does smoke on the water. Machine head is propably my fav. Deep Purple album, along with Burn, gotta love that A' 200 song.

Richie Blackmore is simply a great guitarist, I also love his other band, Rainbow.

http://www.hotguitarist.com/richieblackmore.jpg

Sand_master
04-04-2006, 09:32 AM
WoW Deep Purple is really somthing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
i am working on the solo cuz the open was to easy

Sandwarrior1990
04-04-2006, 10:19 AM
Im pissed off about my guitar strap.
IS it better to have a set position where the guitar is, or play where it feels most comfortable for me?

UnDead_Knight1
04-04-2006, 12:21 PM
@sand master: yeah, Deep Purple rocks. you mean the solo of Burn? yeah, it's pretty awesome solo, and easy enough to learn. And you might also like the misfits, they have awesome songs which are pretty easy to nail (they don't have solos), their best albums are famous monsters, and american psycho.

@James: what's the trouble with the guitar strap?
It's best to have the guitar where it's most comfortable, it's better to have it pretty low though, as it's easier on the arms, that way there's less possibility to have a cramp. the ideal place to have the guitar is at your middle.

Sandwarrior1990
04-04-2006, 12:58 PM
@Khaled: Its just if I have it low I cant move my hands as fast, so should I keep it as low as I can whilst being able to move my hands at a good speed? Im just guna mess around adjusting it now

UnDead_Knight1
04-04-2006, 01:31 PM
well, as I said, you should put it the way it's most comfortable to you, you should find the balance between having it low, and between speed, it takes a time to find that perfect position for guitar, that's why it's such an annoyance if other people change the fine adjustments that took you so much time to adjust, very similiar to when you adjust the car seat just right, and then someone comes and f*ck up that adjustment http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Sandwarrior1990
04-04-2006, 01:43 PM
lol! Thanks, Ill try it now.
I'll be back later with more guitaring queries for sure http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
04-04-2006, 02:09 PM
cool, gimme your best shot (question) I can handle it

Sand_master
04-05-2006, 12:26 AM
Actually knight i meant the SOW solo but i stopped after a while cuz its seems wrong tabs http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

UnDead_Knight1
04-05-2006, 06:59 AM
this one (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/d/deep_purple/smoke_on_the_water_solo_ver2_tab.htm) is good enough, tried it myself, it sounds almost like the one played by Blackmore himself

click here to download the song (http://www.filefactory.com/get/f.php?f=81792c7156ac8b591d09e6de) (it's the first time I use file factory to upload a file so tell me if the link doesn't work

Sandwarrior1990
04-05-2006, 08:44 AM
Over the last couple of days I have discovered that learning guitar straight from books does not work for me, but I only just found out that there are audio CD's to accompany some books.
So if you're a beginning guitarist like me (been playing just over 3 months) then I would seriously advise using these books/audio CD's but ALSO practising in your own way, like downloading songs you like http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif and playing them until your hands sweat (unless thats a bad thing :S)

I just thought Id say that cause I just discovered these books/audio CD's.
You all probably know of them already http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

EDIT: IS it worth practising both Rhthm gutiar and Lead guitar stuff? kinda keeping my options open, but I might as well do that anyway.

yavanna_1986
04-05-2006, 10:27 AM
I read this in another thread: http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:

@Yavanna: you woun't believe how many changes I stand alone had gone throw to sound that good http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Whar do you mean?

I've first heard the I Stand Alone a few years ago while playing the game Scorpion Kind. Great game in my opinion. And I loved this song. After that, I saw the movie, and again, I just loved this song. I then just forgot about this song till december 2004 when I played the game Warriow Within. I admit that I didn't know at that time that it was the same song. I played Scorpion King 3 or 4 years ago... so... I forgot. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

UnDead_Knight1
04-05-2006, 12:03 PM
@Jimmy-Tallice-Fan: yeah, books can help, but the ones that are worth getting is the tab ones, as that's all you need as a guitarist, no need to learn regular notaion, unless you're gonna be playing classical stuff, not cool stuff like metal. And yeah, it's better to have the audio CD as you'll need to know how fast you should play, that's why guitar pro is such an awesome software, you get to play back the tabs in the speed you want. (I personally never used books only tab books of metallica, led zeppelin and deep purple). (btw, it's better to practice till your fingers bleed, it's longer, cause it only takes few mins for the hands to sweat http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

well, rythem guitar is way easier to master than lead guitar, but it's better to learn both (you can't really learn lead guitar techniques if you can't play rythem tracks) as you might need them when you form a band, besides it's very fullfilling to play a full Hammett solohttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

@Miss Roxy: all I meant was that this song has gone a lot of changes in the studio to sound good, this song is propably one of the most songs I have ever seen get so many changes, and luckily too, as the first version wasn't very good (believe me, i was one of Shannon's drum technicians at that time, so I was therehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif). The song they released with the scorpion king game and movie is the final product of hours DAYS of work, and it was the same version that was also released in the WW game and the CD, too bad Sully doesn't allow me to publish ithttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif, btw, their new CD has awesome tracks (some even better than the track they released)

yavanna_1986
04-05-2006, 12:12 PM
What are you saying... that you were there http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif? Are you serious?! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
First, I don't know the name of the guys. I'm not interested on how old someone is, how many kids they have, what is his name... the only thing that gtabs my attention is his music http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.
I Stand Alone is my favorite song in the entire world http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif... and you are telling me that there is another version, and that I will never be able to hear it? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif
*goes in a corner and starts crying* http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

UnDead_Knight1
04-05-2006, 12:49 PM
yup, my friend's father is Sully's lawyer, so I get to sometimes work with them, basically if they are short on drum or guitar technicians they call me and my friends, we even play as their warmup band, cool, eh? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
So, you're not interested in knowing anything bout the band, eh? guess you got a fair point as the music is what's really important, and the tour dates ofcourse, but I find it good to know whose the current lineup of the band, as that way, I'll know, or atleast estimate, how good they are.
There there, no need in crying, it's not worth it, as I said before, all the previous versions weren't any good, the main guitar riff wasn't even the same one, only the final product is the one that rocks, besides, they are releasing a new album very soon, with awesome songs, that should cheer you up

yavanna_1986
04-06-2006, 03:16 AM
That's so cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif. Well... they are humans, just like the rest of us. Singing is their job. I mean... if I see, for example Johhny Deep walking on the streets, even though he is my favorite actor, I would act normal. He's just like any other person. I actually don't even know how old he is, or when is his birthday... etc. I don't care. Same thing goes with the bands and their music.
Don't worry about it... I was joking http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif. It's like showing someone else how my drawing looks like before it's ready. No way in hell... the final product is all that matters.

UnDead_Knight1
04-06-2006, 11:47 AM
True, they are humans, some of them might be legends (like Hendrix), but in the end of the day they are just humans like us, but if I were you I would ask him for an autograph, you know how something like this is worth? you would get 100$ easily, but yeah I don't care when is birthday is, I'm only interested in their products, not them.
lol, same thing with me actually, when I'm working on a new song I woun't let anyone hear it, except my band, and my father as he has experience in the field.
Now I wonder how your drawings do look like before they are finished...

Sandwarrior1990
04-06-2006, 11:56 AM
I need some advice on learning guitar solos, should I start with Deep Purple like you said? or something else..?

UnDead_Knight1
04-06-2006, 12:05 PM
well, Richie Blackmore has some serious hard solos, but he also has easy ones, I think smoke on the water is the easiest solo I know, it was the first I learned anyway, if you need to improve your speed on the high (piched) strings you could practice thunderstruck by AC\DC, the Angus Young part, which is like this:

B-0h4-0h7-0h4-0h7-0h4-0h7

this also is a good way to improve your hammer ons

yavanna_1986
04-06-2006, 02:27 PM
So now you get my point http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif. LOL... I would never ask someone for an autograph... I had a girl in my high-school that she was a member in a famous girl band. I used to pass next to her every day, but never in my life I asked her for an autograph. And neither did any of the people I knew. They all treated her like any other girl.
When I see people freakin out about some starts I just think they need to chill... those people have nothing better to do than to read everything about someone else's life...
So you also write lyrics, or do you only play the guitar?
As for my drawings... they don't looks so great... just a bunch of lines and nothing more.
The shading is what makes a drawing look great http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.
I only show them to my family... right now, my eyes hurt, cause it's late, and while my sister was on the net, I kept on drawing. And she's driving me crazy to make the drawing even better. It's not even finished, but hell, she's like my no. 1 critic. Anyway, when it will be done, I'll show it to you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

UnDead_Knight1
04-06-2006, 03:58 PM
well, you're right, people usually hate it when someone comes up to them and ask for autographs, that's why they usually have autograph nights, all I said that an autograph is a way to get easy moneyhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
yeah, some people do take it too far when they see someone famous, for me I like to know their influences, and would like to meet some to discuss techniques, propably my musician side.
well, I'm originally a drummer, and then learned the guitar, I also know how to play bass, and sing if something is wrong with Dave's voice (vocalist of the band), I also write lyrics.
you know the best drawing I can make is that stickman skitch, and even that doesn't look good, lol.
I'm sure your drawings are awesome, I'd love to see it when finished
your no. 1 critic, eh? my father has developed this wierd habit of nagging me to look more like a zombie when I play live, like the dudes from the misfits, I hope he would stop nagging, it's not like he wore any gothic makeup when he used to play, but meh, I should hide the misfits records, you like the misfits? if you don't know them yet, I suggest you go get a misfits album, they play punk metal, and they sound awesome.

Sandwarrior1990
04-06-2006, 04:11 PM
Yeah misfits rock, and they look so cool. Im gun have to get a devilock soon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
hey UK, you know needled 24/7 by Children of Bodom? If I could play the chorus of that nearly full speed, is that a lot of progress towards being able to play solos? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

UnDead_Knight1
04-06-2006, 05:02 PM
cool, don't forget to post a picture of you with a devilockhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
it's quite a progress, but the best thing that will make you good at solos is actually playing them, as I said, smoke on the water has awesome solo which is pretty easy to play

yavanna_1986
04-07-2006, 01:41 AM
I remember Eminem's song called I am. He's so damn right. I don't know if you ever heard it, but if you haven't, then you should. Nope, I would never ask for an autograph. I dunno why... it's just me.
I see what you mean. I would love to have a discussion with the guy who made the artworks for Warrior Within. Great stuff.
So you are multitalented... lol. Great.
I am sure that if you try, you can draw. Everyone can. Just like I can sing if I want.
You will see it soon... it's my best drawing...
WTF? Are you serious? LOL... your dad is so cool. Your dad also was a singer? Which band? As for Misfits... I've never heard of them till now. Keep in mind that I don't like in UK or US, so here we don't know all the rock bands that you guys do. The romanian MTV only airs stupid songs...

UnDead_Knight1
04-07-2006, 03:05 PM
I don't listen to rap and hiphop, so naturally I still haven't heard that song, but if you say it's good, I'll download ithttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
yeah, the artworks in warrior within were pretty awesome, gotta love the dude who made them...
yup, I'm multitalented, well, every other rock star know how to play drums, guitar and bass, guess it's part of the job, lol.
well, I propably will draw if I practiced enough, but the problem is I don't have time, with school and band practices, and other stuff, but I guess I can't be good at everything, my math grades are a solid prove to that, lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif
cool, if it's your best drawing then it's propably awesome
yeah, he's pretty cool, but now he doesn't tour much, settled down for a math college prof., and no, he wasn't a singer, he was a lead guitarist in a band called Assaf Madness, with my uncles, they didn't hit it worldwide, they were pretty local, but they had some interesting songs, but he's my opponent now, as he's competing against me for the lead singer, or drummer job in Gorgeous Frankenstein, it's a new band formed by Doyle Wolfgang Von Frankenstein, ex. guitarist of the misfits, only time will tell who'll get the job, and the demos that get actually heard by Doyle...
hmm, you never heard of the misfits before? it's pretty weird, as they are very known band, they even has their own strings for sale, and they were propably metallica's main influence. you should diffenatly get some of their albums, best one is Famous Monsters, one thing you gotta admit though, they look awesome
watch this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1XNsUuX1zs&search=misfits) it's scream by the misfits, here the fits are play as actual monsters, not that they don't actually look like monsters, but still...
besides, you gotta admit, that devilock looks awesome

we'll make a fiend out of ya yet

Sandwarrior1990
04-09-2006, 12:22 PM
Misfits were Metallica's main influence? oh, well you learn something new every day http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Im liking how quickly Im getting at guitar, just thought id say that.
Im getting better at playing Master of Puppets which is great,cause now I know that soon Ill be able to play it even better http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

UnDead_Knight1
04-09-2006, 01:40 PM
yeah, Misfits were one of metallica's main influences, haven't I already showed you that Cliff Burton pic with the fits tatto?, besides metallica are known as the band that debuted in misfits clothes, awesome, eh?

master of puppets, eh? I don't remember I ever learned that, I just wake up someday, and I could play it, I don't know how I learned it, but who cares? it's awesome song and I'm glad I can play it.
cool, soon you'll be double tracking yourself in master of puppets, awesome http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

Sandwarrior1990
04-09-2006, 01:47 PM
ooh yeah, i remember, That just slipped my mind, hehe
I mow have the tshirt with the Misfits logo, muahahah.
That is cool, did they do the make up too?

Well, its still a bit too fast for me to play, but I know that I will be able to play it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
hah, something like that happened to me, I went away for 3 days and came back, played the guitar for first tie in 3 days and was better than before I left http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Maybe i should take a random 2week vacation http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

double tracking? like, recording? sorry I duno what it means, hehe

EDIT: Sweet new sig http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif VERY nice! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

UnDead_Knight1
04-09-2006, 02:49 PM
cool, the fits logo is awesome, that fiend skull looks so awesome.
nope, tallica dudes didn't do the makeup of the fits, but it's not like the fits had makeup back then, it just was the devilock.

hmm, you'll play it very soon, try going to other song, then come back, that might help, if it doesn't, well, atleast you learned another song http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

lol, now that's cool, maybe I should try that sometime.

double tracking: the act of recording a track, then recording it again, so it sounds like 2 guitarists playing instead of one, it gives "bigger" sound, as you can't play the same riff exactly like you played it, the variations in time (usually only few milliseconds), dynamics and pitch make it sound bigger, it's used to make the guitar tracks on albums more pronounced over the whole mix.

thx, which one you mean btw? I'm now using a rotating sig with a total of 7 sigs (press the sig to go to the site that's hosting the sig if you want to use a rotating sig http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

Sandwarrior1990
04-09-2006, 03:08 PM
It certainy is, kinda freaky and its original, unlike so many things these days...
So they had devilocks? cool http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif Im seriously guna get me one very soon, and post the picture http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif all in the name of good fun http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Okay, Ill try another one... hmm... right so I'll focus on one song for now, which will be '..................' I dont know, I'll choose a tab from my collection at random, that'll do.

hah, you should, maybe it was because I was quite eager to get back to playing again.

ahh, thats what I thought, just wanted some clarification. Thats why Battery and Fade to Black sound so good http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
Didn't they use something like 4 guitars at one time in Fade to Black?

oh, COOL! Im guna use that now, thanks!
meant the one with Kirk, the blue one (two pictures of him standing up, and one close up)

UnDead_Knight1
04-09-2006, 03:57 PM
yeah, it's truly original, most of today's stuff are unoriginal, and most of today's music stinks, but there's some bands still that make quality music like godsmack, velvet revolver, metalium... and the old school bands still oppirating of coursehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

cool, ig you want a song, you could try hall of the mountain king by savatage, it's a fast song though. come to think of it, hall of the mountain king is one of the few songs I've found tabs for in the net, wierd thing as they are pretty much very widely known, makes making cover songs a pain in the @$$, as you need to tab them first, which isn't an easy task, but meh.

well, I just bumped my left elbow (my picking hand) against the amp, so I guess I woun't play for a few days, as it was pretty serious bump, propably you being eager to play again has something to do with it...

in battery they use about 5 instruments, but not all play the same riff, double tracking is playing the same riff again, on fade to black I think they only used 3, but I might be wrong though.

cool, glad you like it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
oh, that one, eh? yeah, it does look cool, but do you think it looks better with or without the text?

Sandwarrior1990
04-10-2006, 03:13 AM
yeah, you can still be great without bwing original, but originality would help a lot, also it gives me different styles of rock and metal music to listen too which is an added bonus http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Metalium are actualy great, Demons of Insanity http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif If their albums are as good as you say, I'll be buying the whole lot of them!

yeah, you sent me that tab, I'll try that one. GuitarPro4 makes tabbing a lot easier, but its still very hard, I havent even tried putting a song I know into a tab yet, all I do is play tabs that other people make and make up my own songs. I made another song, but its a bit dodgy as its only my 2nd... well 1st that has lead guitar, rythm and bass.... but its a start http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Ouch http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif well I hope that gets better soon, cause if you cant play guitar with tha injury it'll suck if it lasts for long..
Somebody said "where there's a will there's a way" and in one ofthese pages in this thread you said that improvments will come fast if you have the will, or something like that, very true though http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif I speak from experience http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif hehe

I thought two guitars played the same riff, and maybe the other splayed seperate bits, but definately at least 2 guitars play the same riff. Im sure they do.

hmm, I think if you lowered the text down a little, it would look better, but its still great atm http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

UnDead_Knight1
04-10-2006, 12:27 PM
yeah, some of the cover bands have awesome songs, but some of the new bands, even if they are original, they stink, best (or should I say worst http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) example would be the scissor sisters, they are original, but they stink, the only good thing about them is the POD XT live the guitarist uses.
yup, different kinds rock, change is always welcome, but when it's for the better, not the worst http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

well, you've heard enough of metalium to decide yourself, but diffenatly, demons of insanity rocks, infact I'm gonna listen to that album right now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif, it's been too long since I listened to metalium, propably even more than 4 days...

cool, it's a great song, by a great band, too bad most of their songs aren't tabbed.
well, guitar pro is an awesome program. Cool, now you have 2 songs, the first one was pretty good song, I'd like to hear that solo part.

meh, don't worry bout it, in about 2 days I'll be back and rockin, I heal fast.
yeah, I remember that dude who said "when there's will, there's a way", propably cause that dude was me, lol

well, 2 guitars did play the same riff, one acoustic, and one electric, but the other guitars played different, but very, similiar licks, so you were right

cool, thx, I might do that later, I just don't feel like it now...

btw, I see you're using a rotating sig, cool, so far, the ones I've seen look great, I especially like the St. Anger one, and the master of puppets one, and ride the lightning one

Sandwarrior1990
04-11-2006, 03:11 AM
yeah, I dislike the scissor sisters.. very much http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif are they seriously classified as a rock band?! Thats the biggest mistake. ever.
POD XT live is DEFINATELY the best thing, cause that rocks! although all you really need is skill to play the guitar succesfully, but effects are so much fun, and sound cool, so nobody's complaining. Like Angus Young, you said he only uses a Guitar and an Amp, and hes a great guitarist http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I'll buy an album of theirs then http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif best start from the beginning, right? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
I couldnt go a day without listening to Metallica, it just wouldnt work, but usually I listen to random songs instead of whole albums cause most of the time a whole album takes too long and I want a range of music for the time that I have.
But I love listening to an album all the way through, its like a small story or something, hehe

I think I played the wrong one, I played Hall of the Mountain King- by Rainbow, I dont think it's the right one cause its pretty damn easy.
Solo part...? ooohh, I may need to work on that, so far I've got the intro and stuff, I'll just adapt a solo from somewhere else.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif that way I'll learnt to be able to make my own hopefully.

Cool, I heal fast too, its a great thing to have! I swear I heard that saying in a film somehwere, haha. but anyway its definately true, I am the living proof... hehe

good, I thought heard it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif but it doesnt take a genious to know that there's more than 2 guitars playing in that song, hehe.
To be honest you dont need to change it, it looks great as it is.
and thanks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif theres also one with NEM lyrics on my version of a Black Album cover, and my One sig that I used until recently.

daggertaildan
04-11-2006, 03:49 AM
Can anyone here play

The Darkness-Hazel eyes

The Scaling is the Greatness http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Loveth that song

Angelina_22
04-11-2006, 08:34 AM
Ah, just had to pay a visit to this thread today! I'm on such a "musical high" right now!!http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Today at University we did this show, we were in small groups of three and was to do a number each.
Well ours turned out to be incredible, we had chosen this song about a wolf, and so we were to create sort of a wilderness feeling to it all....well you'd have to see it and hear it to understand completely what I mean...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
So I played the african drums and the piano in our number, and my two friends were doing this dramatic dance/moves thing...
The whole thing starting with me playing a slow powerful sounding beat on that djembe drum, then I switched into flowing pianoplaying, starting out softly and then bulding it up more and more...
Well, the effect of it all turned out to be more than we would have thought in the beginning when we formed the idea.
The audience said they were getting chills because of the atmosphere we created.
Gosh, well what can I say...it was an awesome experience.
And yeah I'm definitely still experiencing a "buzz" here, you know, as all musicians would know, the rush you get from being on stage and creating something for an audience...

UnDead_Knight1
04-11-2006, 12:56 PM
@Jimi: well, as I said, the scissor sisters can be classified as a rock band, but only if you use the term rock band loosely (in this case, very loosely).
yeah, POD XT live rocks so much, but the Vetta II amp, now that's what a guitarist needs, build in stomp boxes, wah and volume pedals, amp models, and post amp effects, really cool stuff, I just ordered the combo vetta II, and a pedalboard to check it out, if it's good, then I might get the head and replace my current live rig, but I dunno, as the boogie triple recto looks a lot cooler:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b130/UnDead-Knight/triplerecto.jpg
(upper one is dual recto, lower one is triple recto)
yeah, Angus Young is a great guitarist, with great tunes, but I would like him even more if he had more toneshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

yeah, I couldn't go a day without listening to tallica or the fits either, they propably have cocaine or crack or somethin like this, as there's no way a music can be soo addictive...lol
albums are stories, will Metalium's albums are anyway, there whole albums are the story of Metalian, which is why it's better to have it from the first album, cuase you'll know the story from the beginning, and they have an awesome vesion of smoke on the water http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

lol, rainbow's hall of the mountain king isn't the same as savatage's hall of the mountain king, rainbow are better than savatage, remember, rainbow's founder is deep purple's lead guitarist, Richie Blackmore.
don't worry, once you start playing solos, you'll write solos with ease.

maybe it was said in the X-men movie by wolverine or someone else...

actually, you would be surprised by the stupidity of some people, someone actually said to me once: is that really a guitar tone? AMMMMAAAAAZING!!!!!!!!! lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

cool, you saved me the trouble, lol

that One sig is pretty cool, and I just saw the NEM one, diffenatly cool

@the irish joker: ofcourse, I'm not Dave Mustaine you know... and it is indeed a cool song

@Angie:so, you're still high on music, eh http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif.
sounds like it was a hell of a show, to bad I missed it.
so, the effects has gotten out of hand, eh? but looks like it turned out for the better, cool
yeah, I know what you mean by buzz after a show, reminds me of Halloween last year, when we did a misfits tribute concert, and as it was halloween, we also wore the makeup like them, I just couldn't sit still in the chair so the makeup lady got so annoyed, lol, and finally finished after 1.5 hours, and finally when I got onstage I started playing Devil Doll without the others, luckily the audience thought it was part of the show, and not me doing a mistake, and I couldn't sleep that night from excitement.
wonder what's Doyle Wolfgang Von Frankenstein's first show was like, which was also on Halloween of his 16th year

Angelina_22
04-12-2006, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
@Angie:so, you're still high on music, eh http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif.
sounds like it was a hell of a show, to bad I missed it.
so, the effects has gotten out of hand, eh? but looks like it turned out for the better, cool
yeah, I know what you mean by buzz after a show, reminds me of Halloween last year, when we did a misfits tribute concert, and as it was halloween, we also wore the makeup like them, I just couldn't sit still in the chair so the makeup lady got so annoyed, lol, and finally finished after 1.5 hours, and finally when I got onstage I started playing Devil Doll without the others, luckily the audience thought it was part of the show, and not me doing a mistake, and I couldn't sleep that night from excitement.
wonder what's Doyle Wolfgang Von Frankenstein's first show was like, which was also on Halloween of his 16th year

He he, yeah I'm almost still high on that performance from yesterday...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif...actually yeah I am!http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
It was amazing yes, and you know that tune we had got into my head so I had it in my head the whole evening last night!http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
I was actually humming it even as I was out horse riding late in the evening, so now my horse is also familar with the melody...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif
It was actually quite fitting, because in those lyrics about that wolf and all that, there's mention of moonlight and what not, and last night when I was out riding it was actually a full moon here....http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Yes I know what you mean about how you get on that buzz and it's so hard to sleep when you're on it, you just feel like bouncing around the place or something equally crazy as that behaviour!!http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

UnDead_Knight1
04-12-2006, 04:31 PM
oh, man now I'm high on music, and the show isn't on till saturday, well if I woun't sleep I should atleast get some practice done...

your horse now knows the tunes, cool, incase you'll ever forget them, you'll know where to find them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
full moon, eh? werewolves night, cool, but for me I prefer riding horses in the day, not like I can go riding in the night anyway, as I don't own a horse myself (no place for it), but my grandfather has a couple of horses, so I ride them when I get the chance, love the feeling of riding a speeding horse, but that's another story...

yeah, tell me about it, sometimes even the after party isn't enough to make you tired, but it's simply a great feeling to see people cheer cause something you played, really satisfying

yavanna_1986
04-13-2006, 03:10 AM
Sorry for the late reply... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
It's a very good song. Get it and tell me what you think. I forgot the name of the dude who made the artworks, but I don't think that it's that hard to find out. I'm sure that that man draws every day, not like me... before joining this forum, I didn't draw anything for like 3 years and a half. My drawing is ready... I just need to find a scaner...
Cool... the talent runs in the family... lol
Same with my family... my dad is very good at drawing and so was my granmother.
I'm serious... Mistifs are not that famous around here. And I saw the video... that was creepy... it reminds me of some movie... Day of the dead...
And yeah... they look awesome... as for me... I already am a fiend http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif... didn't you know that? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Angelina_22
04-13-2006, 03:21 AM
Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
oh, man now I'm high on music, and the show isn't on till saturday, well if I woun't sleep I should atleast get some practice done...

your horse now knows the tunes, cool, incase you'll ever forget them, you'll know where to find them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
full moon, eh? werewolves night, cool, but for me I prefer riding horses in the day, not like I can go riding in the night anyway, as I don't own a horse myself (no place for it), but my grandfather has a couple of horses, so I ride them when I get the chance, love the feeling of riding a speeding horse, but that's another story...

yeah, tell me about it, sometimes even the after party isn't enough to make you tired, but it's simply a great feeling to see people cheer cause something you played, really satisfying

Ha ha, well if you've already started to feel that high imagine what saturday will be like...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Ahem, exactly I store my tunes with my horses in case I should forget them....they are a very reliable source you know...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Yay another horse rider??http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Cool!!!http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif See I had no idea about that, I should really revive that old "Any horse riders here thread"...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
He he well I do go riding in daylight as well...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif But sometimes I don't get the time until in the evening, and I tell you, it's a totally different experience riding in the night...and it's best when there is a full moon since then you will still be able to see very well...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif It's awesome, you feel like you are in Lord of the Rings or something...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Yes I know, it's an awesome feeling knowing that you affected someone
with the music you play...amazing...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Robert_1989
04-13-2006, 03:25 AM
I have recently become a musician, sort of.
I started playing guitar, and I must say, it's a lot of work.

I have practiced a few basic chords, and I'm getting to grips with finger placement, so maybe in, like, 5 years I'll get better http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

daggertaildan
04-13-2006, 03:30 AM
Set!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

So you've started? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I just learnt the intro of AC/DC-Back in Black http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

It is the Great!

Too! Ta! Na! Na! Ta! Na! Na! Tee! Taoo! Taoo! Too! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Robert_1989
04-13-2006, 03:34 AM
Yesterday I had myself a little Jam when I was home alone. Amazyingly, it almost sounded like a SONG http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Sandwarrior1990
04-13-2006, 03:42 AM
heh, well I started playing guitar just after Christmas, and I think I've improved a hulluva lot, then I bought myself a decent amp, and now I just get tabs that i like an dlearn them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
If I can do that much in about 4 months, then I cant wait to hear what I'll be like in a few years http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

*slowly replying to UK's post..*

daggertaildan
04-13-2006, 03:48 AM
@Robert: Like a Song!? Aren't you getting those bad Injury thingies on the finger tips?? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Before i go close to any Song Playing-ness i had bad "the pains" on my fingers...now they're numb http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Good Going! Keep update on Progress

Robert_1989
04-13-2006, 03:50 AM
I use a pick http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

But the chord-fingers might start bleeding soon.

daggertaildan
04-13-2006, 03:54 AM
I made a big mistake...Im hooked on playing with my thumb http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Thats numb too but the worst thing is it takes twice the time and energy to play with the thumb

Dont use thumb


Lest your Legendary career be killed from its Birth http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

and you playing tabs before chords???

Sandwarrior1990
04-13-2006, 03:58 AM
@UK: only a fool would classify them as rock http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
well looks arent everything, I'd go for sound over looks when buying an amp, and quality. If it's good quality and sounds great and looks stupid, I'll still buy it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Woah, that sounds awesome! hmm, maybe when I get in a band (hopefully soon..) adn progress a bit, start getting serious Ill take a look at that amp, cause it costs a bundle, right?

lol! Well Im quite happy about being addicted to Metallica http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
oh, cool! well what the heck is Metalian?? I guess I'll find out when I get the first album, hehe
Cant wait to hear their version of it, should sound awesome

some people said that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif? haha! well what other instrument would it be with Metallica, must have been all the tones that fooled them, muahahah

thanks, but I changed them all around now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

@Dan: Back in Black sounds so cool for its... kinda-easyness-ish http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Robert_1989
04-13-2006, 03:59 AM
What is a tab? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

I only stroke the thing down while holding the good things http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Sandwarrior1990
04-13-2006, 04:01 AM
Dan: Jimi hendrix used his thumb when playing guitar, so if it works for you, then carry on http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

hehe, my fretting fingers have already hardened up on the tips, feels weird now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Rob a tab is one of these things.. http://www.guitaretab.com/d/deep-purple/23239.html

the lines are the strings, and the numbers are the frets http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

daggertaildan
04-13-2006, 04:04 AM
Tabs be the Fancy Square thingies you Press to Make the Sound come out when you rub your Pick on the Strings http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I started out doing all the ONLY tab stuff...At present Mastering Chords

Very Hard Shat

@JamesL Its Easy...But sounds sooooo Fancy!

Tee Tao!

daggertaildan
04-13-2006, 04:05 AM
NUMBERS!?

Holy What?

I have Squares divided by the strings and the metal thingies

And dots on some of them

No Numbers

Sandwarrior1990
04-13-2006, 04:06 AM
Dan, do you mean frets when you say tab? cause I have no idea what else you could be talking about...

anyway here is a picture to clear some stuff up... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif
http://www.serif.com/serifExtra/Products/hobbies/teachi...-electric-guitar.jpg (http://www.serif.com/serifExtra/Products/hobbies/teachingElectricGuitar/lrg-sec-electric-guitar.jpg)

yeah same here, I have a dot on frets: 3, 5, 7, 9, (two dots on 12) 15, 17, 19, 21 and 24 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

daggertaildan
04-13-2006, 04:07 AM
!!!!!!
Quick!

Listen to Back in Black in fast-ness http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Its like a dog is chasing him http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Blablablablablablabla

daggertaildan
04-13-2006, 04:09 AM
Oh craip http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Yes the squares are the Frets http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The Non-existant Numbers that are given to them are the tabs http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sorry i'll Punish myself with some wet laundry now

Sandwarrior1990
04-13-2006, 04:10 AM
hah, no problemos, I just didnt have a clue what you were on about http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
do you have a tab program on your pc? or use the ones on the internet?

daggertaildan
04-13-2006, 04:14 AM
I have Powertab http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Great shat http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Guitarpro is Mondo-lisciously better but you have to pay for it

Paying = Unacceptable

Sandwarrior1990
04-13-2006, 04:17 AM
yeah I had powertab, but then I got guitarpro4 somehow without paying for it. I'm saying no more here.

But Guitarpro has all the instruments, bass, lead guitar, rythm guitar, drums, piano, any instrument, seriously ANYTHING http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

but now Guitarpro5 is out I might have to see what all the fuss is about http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

daggertaildan
04-13-2006, 04:21 AM
It has all the same stuff you just described http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Dunno whats new but i dont touch nothing on the top of the screen

Just look at the Fancy Flashing Numbers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I SERIOUSLY want to get down to play the scales of The Darkness-Hazel eyes


Such tyte-ness never witnessed

*Head decompresses*

You heard that one'?

Sandwarrior1990
04-13-2006, 04:51 AM
I amde a few songs using GuitarPro http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I havent heard that song, but I'll have a go at playing it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Should be fun

(btw, in my sig is my guitar and amp, and pick and pedal that I want http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

daggertaildan
04-13-2006, 04:57 AM
Thats your guitar!???

Great Niceness!!!

Sandwarrior1990
04-13-2006, 05:18 AM
Yeah, it looks cool, but it was kinda cheap so its not the best quality, but it still rocks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Im goin for a better quality one next, not anytime very soon though.

UnDead_Knight1
04-13-2006, 02:13 PM
@Roxy: well, I don't like rap music, but I liked the lyrics. really, you didn't draw anything for over 3 years? I'd explode if I didn't play my guitar or drum for over 3 days.
cool, you may borrow mine, just give me a mailing adress
cool, your family are good at drawing at drawing, and mine at guitar, cool
odcourse it's creepy, it was directed by famous horror movie director, whom I seem to have forgot his name, so did you like the song?

I know you're an evil fiend, but I meant the other type of fiends, the misfits fans, that's how they call their fans

btw did you know that the misfits were one of metallica's main influences, and metallica were one of Godsmack's main influences along with Pantera, so that makes the misfits an indirect influence to Godsmack, and if you listen carefully you can hear it

@Angelina: lol, I wonder what I would feel on saturday, lol, hope I don't do anything stupid on stage, lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

yup, I'm another horse rider, but I propably don't get to ride horses as much as you do, as I don't own one, but I ride them whenever I get a chance to.
cool, maybe I should try this night horse riding thing then, maybe I should grow a beard, dye it white, and wear a white cloak, and I'd feel like Gandalf http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (one of the horses is snow white, and looks vert similiar to the horse that played Shadowfax in the movieshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

btw, I really hope David doesn't loose his voice again, there's no way in hell I'm singing lead vocals in a King Diamond tribute again (well, not all songs are King Diamond's, but there's diffenatly above 3)

@Roberto: cool, now you're a musician, congratulations, and welcome to the club... now prepare for living hell http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif
and here's a complete guide to reading tabs (http://guitar.about.com/library/blhowtoreadtab.htm)
btw, they are called fretting fingers, not chord fingers, and be sure they'll hurt like hell at first
electric guitar parts with explanation (http://www.build-a-recording-studio.com/electric-guitar.html)
another advice is always play downstrokes, this might sound as stupid advice, but believe me it's better in the long term

@Dan: back in black, great song, and thumb rocks, don't ever diss the power of the thumb, either in picking or in fretting, it always rocks.
those square thingies aren't tabs, those are chords you dimwithttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and the numbers indicate which finger you should use to fret that string

@James: indeed, only a fool would classify them as rock, but then again the world is full of fools.
well, ofcourse I'd go with tones first, looks later, but if I could have both the tones and the looks, I'd go with that optionhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif besides I have all the amps and stompboxes, and pedals, and effects that I need for my tone, and they look cooler than the vetta on stage. Basically both rigs have the same tones, might as well have the looks too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
well, it does cost a bundle, I got the combo for 2000$ including the deluxe pedalboard (1600$ for amp, and 400$ for the pedalboard), it's pretty expencive, but then again the triple recto head costs 1500$, and the mesa boogie recto 412 cabs are 700$. I might add the vetta to my rig cause I might use some of it's models, and might replace my whole rig with it as it would be easier to carry it around, only time well tell what I will do in the end

you diffenatly need to get some of their albums, and metalian is the dude they talk about in their songs, and have his picture on the covers:
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00004XN9V.08.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

in their fourth album they introduced a girl, just don't know her name

lol, I know, some people are just plain stupid, wonder what they would say if they knew about all the tones availabe for guitar http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

guitarpro is way better program than power tab editor, and guitar pro 5 basicly has more realistic tones for guitar, bass and drums
and I know how James got it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

to all the shredders out there, this should be interesting to you:
the family ghost (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYxYio68ILY&search=king%20diamond)
welcome home (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBfku2ZuAJ0&search=king%20diamond)

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gifEnter if you darehttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

uncfan32
04-15-2006, 05:51 AM
I hope no one laughs at me when I tell you guys what I play which is:

http://www.kesslermusic.com/SterlingSelmers/soprano/sax.jpg
Soprano Sax