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RedTerex
01-22-2007, 03:03 AM
Well it appears that all threads, new posts etc from October up to the present have been irretrievably lost.

Ubi-soft big cheeses have NOT saved any recent backups, the forums were NOT backed up on a regular basis as you would expect from any internet business standard operating procedure.

ps,
I will not be updating the 'where are you from thread" again...it took too damn long to update it.

I guess we have have all lost a lot of work, time and effort.

Please do your best to carry on posting though, worse things happen at sea !

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There is no conclusive evidence that Ubi forum techies did in fact back up the DB, so my comments above will remain in situ.
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Celeon999
01-22-2007, 03:16 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Thats what i was afraid of.

Realjambo
01-22-2007, 03:57 AM
Oh.My.God. Thanls RedTerex for the update.

The screenshot comp! The Hall of Fame! The rolling quiz! I'll have to start them all again. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Goose_Green
01-22-2007, 04:08 AM
Thanks for letting us know Red Terex http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

As you quite rightly said - worse things could happen at sea.

I will ask one question though;

Will there be regular saves of the forums now? Or will the lesson not be learnt?

@RJ - Please check your PM

Realjambo
01-22-2007, 05:27 AM
I had a thought. Does this mean we've lost all the 'subscriptions' to threads we were part of? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

RedTerex
01-22-2007, 05:59 AM
Originally posted by Realjambo:
I had a thought. Does this mean we've lost all the 'subscriptions' to threads we were part of? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Apparently all and every activity created on the forums from early October 2006 up till Jan 20th have been lost.

In some case's whole new Ubi game forums have gone, as the worst case scenario.

Its quite a disaster zone at the moment.

All Ubi forums have been effected, not just this one. All the moderators, CM's etc are not happy bunnies.

As for backing up the DB, well...one would have envisaged that this would have been a mandatory practise....apparently not.

The core programming for Ubi forums is over 10 years old btw and has never been upgraded, ie out of date...big time.

Celeon999
01-22-2007, 06:10 AM
@ RedTerex


Have you anything heard on what the reason was at all ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

We all know that there was trouble with the forums for several days now but what caused the "big bang" ?

I assume that the server software crashed completely and the auto backup overwrote everything with the last avaible backup ?

Or was it human failure during attempted repair of the forum ?

Goose_Green
01-22-2007, 06:15 AM
Wow seems like it's a really big deal http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif ...I take it heads may roll after this one http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

Minoos
01-22-2007, 06:24 AM
I think we should find ourselves lucky!
My guess is that the only valid backup of the forum exists because UBI updated Eve software to the new October version. Safe practice before a major update is to create a full backup?
Try to figure out how things would be without this October backup!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

RedTerex
01-22-2007, 06:28 AM
At the moment it all points to a major server crash...reasons have not yet been forthcoming !!

Apparently backup's were made but have become corrupted in the crash as the entire server DB was effected and October 12th 2006 is the last best surviving copy.

VikingGrandad has found a way to retreive some threads and posts via a temporary cached google utility programme, ( where are you from list update thread is back ) how this google cache can be utilised to the best advantage remains to be seen.

Please post for VikingGrandad for any info on this.

Realjambo
01-22-2007, 09:43 AM
Wow seems like it's a really big deal Eek ...I take it heads may roll after this one

Well I'm looking for a new job, so can I apply to for the soon to be avaliable 'Head of Backing Up The Forums on a Regular Basis Department' ?

I've got some blank DVD's here I could use.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

TheRealPotoroo
01-22-2007, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by RedTerex:
Apparently backup's were made but have become corrupted in the crash as the entire server DB was effected and October 12th 2006 is the last best surviving copy.

VikingGrandad has found a way to retreive some threads and posts via a temporary cached google utility programme, ( where are you from list update thread is back ) how this google cache can be utilised to the best advantage remains to be seen.
Anyone can search Google for those threads it has cached. That's how I retrieved the information for the Collecting Questions and Daily Devs Answers threads. There are two issues though. One is Google won't necessarily have the most recent posts in a forum as dynamic as this one. The other is that that material that is retrievable still needs to be manually cut and pasted into new posts, so it's a bit tedious. I formatted the stuff I retrieved in Notepad first rather than using the cramped Reply window.

The thing that blows me away (putting my IT professional hat on for a moment) is that the forum host didn't have recent backups stored off the server! That's inexcusable. It shouldn't matter if the server melts. Not only should backups be stored somewhere off the server, they should ideally not even be stored on-site (so if the building burns down or whatever the backups don't get destroyed as well). Losing 3 months of data is simply incompetent. There's no nice way to put it.

(What many people don't know is that not so long ago Google had an entire facility burn down. No-one outside Google noticed because they have so much redundancy in their systems. That's how it's supposed to be done.)

RedTerex
01-22-2007, 10:32 AM
Yes, either way inexcusable incompetance is to blame, not the crash itself.

Crashes can be recovered from...if its all saved.

Grell3
01-22-2007, 01:51 PM
This is rather disheartening.

Regards,

Grell