Prince of Persia Next-Gen DLC on PC? What's your view

[pop_sot]

As we all know that there is no official announcement regarding the platforms on which the Upcoming Prince of Persia Next-Gen Downloadable Content (DLC) will be released.

So, Please refrain from inappropriate launguge and un-necessary anger without having solid and reliable information.

This Poll has just been created to get a view from the Forum Members.

Thank you

[pop_sot]

As we all know that there is no official announcement regarding the platforms on which the Upcoming Prince of Persia Next-Gen Downloadable Content (DLC) will be released.

So, Please refrain from inappropriate launguge and un-necessary anger without having solid and reliable information.

This Poll has just been created to get a view from the Forum Members.

Thank you

[DiDoFRGT10]

Dunno if there's a reason for this one Hassan http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I mean, I doubt anyone would vote no.. Unless he's/she's mean http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Sandwarrior1990]

This is quite a pointless poll, obviously gamers who enjoyed PoP would like the DLC to be available for PC.

[pop_sot]

It would be good to find out the number of people Yes or Nos in terms of percentage dido http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[DiDoFRGT10]

Trust me, the only ones who will post no are the mean ones *coughBartcough* http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[PersianLegends]

Blasphemy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif I would never do such a thing

[pop_sot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sandwarrior1990:
This is quite a pointless poll, obviously gamers who enjoyed PoP would like the DLC to be available for PC. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats what I want to know that How many gamers in this forums enjoyed POP and would like to have DLC. In Percentage. Got it? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Sandwarrior1990]

If you don't mention the fact that it costs money then it's going to be near 100%.

[mboltevski]

Hell yeahh!

[curlyhairedboy]

i certainly want it.

[Keksus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DiDoFRGT10:
Dunno if there's a reason for this one Hassan http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I mean, I doubt anyone would vote no.. Unless he's/she's mean http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

/sign

PoP Gamers seem to be loyal...or they don't care. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif But no PoP Gamer would deny the story another PoP Gamer. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The sad thing is: I think the developers wouldn't also deny the DLC for the PC Gamers...but the really smart marketing guys would. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[bitebug2003]

We have a duplicate poll.
Taking into account that this one was posted on the 1st of Feb, and the other on the 2nd Feb.

This one will remain open.

[AlexFly]

Hell yeah to DLC for PC !

[laxsiber]

Information on the pricing and platforms is yet to be announced. (http://prince-of-persia.uk.ubi.com/index.php?page=news&id_news=9096)
It is real announcement.

[Mystica_567]

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gifUs PC guys want the DLC too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif-Pretty Please http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

[Daroth_343]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by laxsiber:
Information on the pricing and platforms is yet to be announced. (http://prince-of-persia.uk.ubi.com/index.php?page=news&id_news=9096)
It is real announcement. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
That's good news, if they're not announcing the platforms yet it can only mean they haven't decided on releasing a PC version or not. Let's hope they read the forums and don't just look at the total PC sales before making the final decision.

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Daroth_343:
That's good news, if they're not announcing the platforms yet it can only mean they haven't decided on releasing a PC version or not. Let's hope they read the forums and don't just look at the total PC sales before making the final decision. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They will make DLC (Epilogue) for PC.
They could release it like patch or new game (expansion) or like download on steam.
It is just matter of time.

[UnDead_Knight1]

Who the hell voted no? lol

I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be on PC http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif so yes it should

[DiDoFRGT10]

*coughBartcough*

[laxsiber]

UnDead_Knight1.
You hate POP next-gen (I saw it on your signature) . May I ask you why?

[DiDoFRGT10]

OH GOD!! Why did you have to ask this question? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[AlexFly]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UnDead_Knight1:
I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be on PC http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif so yes it should </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It shouldn't, it must ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[UbiRazz]

Sort of an unfair poll to prove a point really - if you're on this forum then you're likely a PoP fan, you clearly have a PC and you probably played PoP on PC, so therefore it's very likely you'll want the DLC. Therefore the number of 'no's should be 0.

Unfortunately for business reasons we won't be seeing any PoP DLC appear. Sorry guys!

[Keksus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UbiRazz:
Sort of an unfair poll to prove a point really - if you're on this forum then you're likely a PoP fan, you clearly have a PC and you probably played PoP on PC, so therefore it's very likely you'll want the DLC. Therefore the number of 'no's should be 0.

Unfortunately for business reasons we won't be seeing any PoP DLC appear. Sorry guys! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ubisoft just lost a customer.

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UbiRazz:
Unfortunately for business reasons we won't be seeing any PoP DLC appear. Sorry guys! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gifWhy? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[SagittariusArc]

Well Ubisoft, are you planning to release a second PoP within the new storyline, setting and with the new characters?

Go ahead, but don't expect many of us loyal buyers to make the same mistake twice.

You just made it clear that PC players are kinda second class citizens.

[UnDead_Knight1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">UnDead_Knight1.
You hate POP next-gen (I saw it on your signature) . May I ask you why? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
If you want to know just look at any of the hating threads, it's pretty much the same reasons for everyone really, I got sick of repeating myself, maybe I should've put it in my sig so people would stop bothering me with it &gt;_&gt;


And not making it on the PC is just stupid, Ubisoft is just losing customers this way...

[Keksus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">And not making it on the PC is just stupid, Ubisoft is just losing customers this way... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not only customers, they are losing fans from a game which already hasn't the biggest fanbase.

The "Buisness Reasons" aren't worth that.

[ElBaero2007]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UbiRazz:


Unfortunately for business reasons we won't be seeing any PoP DLC appear. Sorry guys! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
For business reasons, we won't buy your sequel. Sorry Ubisoft!

[Keksus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ElBaero2007:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UbiRazz:


Unfortunately for business reasons we won't be seeing any PoP DLC appear. Sorry guys! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
For business reasons, we won't buy your sequel. Sorry Ubisoft! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

At least that made me laugh. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[curlyhairedboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UbiRazz:
Sort of an unfair poll to prove a point really - if you're on this forum then you're likely a PoP fan, you clearly have a PC and you probably played PoP on PC, so therefore it's very likely you'll want the DLC. Therefore the number of 'no's should be 0.

Unfortunately for business reasons we won't be seeing any PoP DLC appear. Sorry guys! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>what business reasons? :| if you're going to give us bad news, at least clarify that.

[Murmelwerfer]

hmm, very sad Ubisoft. We see, its again the time where a company prefer the console´s like Final Fantasy.

Could be possible that PoP 7 was the last game i bought from ubisoft.

I hope YOU will change your mind! otherwise it would be really sad...

[HystericFreak]

If there is a logical reason to not permit PC users, who have spent their money just as console users have, to have access to downloadable content, then I'm sure people would like to hear it.

Obviously people want it, and obviously NOT releasing it on PC is going to have a detrimental effect on the community, and if this is a trend, then the PC community at large.

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by curlyhairedboy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UbiRazz:
Sort of an unfair poll to prove a point really - if you're on this forum then you're likely a PoP fan, you clearly have a PC and you probably played PoP on PC, so therefore it's very likely you'll want the DLC. Therefore the number of 'no's should be 0.

Unfortunately for business reasons we won't be seeing any PoP DLC appear. Sorry guys! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>what business reasons? :| if you're going to give us bad news, at least clarify that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I will give my house for DLC.

[curlyhairedboy]

well, it's 'bout time to take more drastic measures.

[Please don't post personal contact information on the forums. Thanks.]

you all know what to do. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Murmelwerfer:
hmm, very sad Ubisoft. We see, its again the time where a company prefer the console´s like Final Fantasy.

Could be possible that PoP 7 was the last game i bought from ubisoft.

I hope YOU will change your mind! otherwise it would be really sad... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They will make game for PC, or I will by Ubisoft and make game myself. Problem is money, or not if I sell my country to Russians. XD

[curlyhairedboy]

here's what i emailed to Ubisoft:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Hi!

Ever since the Prince of Persia developers announced the possibility of DLC, the fan community has been electrified. Especially exciting was the promise that the DLC would be meaty and full of content - not just a few add-ons, but some genuine additions to the gameplay and story.

Recently, the announcement of DLC has increased fan excitement even more. However, some important segments of the fan community have been left feeling neglected. The Prince of Persia Epilogue DLC has not been announced for PCs, only consoles. Furthermore, one of the official voices on the Ubisoft forums (UbiRazz) has confirmed that the DLC will not be coming to the PC platform.

UbiRazz's post:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...901063927#3901063927 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/861108132/m/4211080927?r=3901063927#3901063927)

PC gamers are arguably the most vocal videogame fans around. It's surprising that the goodwill Ubisoft showed by not including DRM on the PC version will be squandered by the decision to withhold the DLC from PC gamers. Many gamers purchased the PC version to show their support of publishers putting less DRM in games. I personally know 5 PC gamers who would not have normally purchased the game. They're now fans of both Prince of Persia and Ubisoft.

I urge you to take whatever measures you can to reverse this decision to deny PC gamers the Epilogue DLC. There are myriad digital distribution channels for the PC platform, and many of them (such as Steam) are easily monetized.

From the post-release interviews, I know that the developers listen to the feedback of the fans - that's why the DLC will have more challenging battles, puzzles, and traps. Don't stop listening now. PC fans are incredibly loyal, if they're treated right. If they're treated wrong, however, the bad press and negative community feedback can poison a franchise for years to come.

PC gamers are ready and willing to pay for the Epilogue DLC. The demand is there. It's up to Ubisoft to take advantage of it. The ball's in your court.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Keksus]

Good e-mail. I hope they will hear.

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by curlyhairedboy:
here's what i emailed to Ubisoft:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Hi!

Ever since the Prince of Persia developers announced the possibility of DLC, the fan community has been electrified. Especially exciting was the promise that the DLC would be meaty and full of content - not just a few add-ons, but some genuine additions to the gameplay and story.

Recently, the announcement of DLC has increased fan excitement even more. However, some important segments of the fan community have been left feeling neglected. The Prince of Persia Epilogue DLC has not been announced for PCs, only consoles. Furthermore, one of the official voices on the Ubisoft forums (UbiRazz) has confirmed that the DLC will not be coming to the PC platform.

UbiRazz's post:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...901063927#3901063927 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/861108132/m/4211080927?r=3901063927#3901063927)

PC gamers are arguably the most vocal videogame fans around. It's surprising that the goodwill Ubisoft showed by not including DRM on the PC version will be squandered by the decision to withhold the DLC from PC gamers. Many gamers purchased the PC version to show their support of publishers putting less DRM in games. I personally know 5 PC gamers who would not have normally purchased the game. They're now fans of both Prince of Persia and Ubisoft.

I urge you to take whatever measures you can to reverse this decision to deny PC gamers the Epilogue DLC. There are myriad digital distribution channels for the PC platform, and many of them (such as Steam) are easily monetized.

From the post-release interviews, I know that the developers listen to the feedback of the fans - that's why the DLC will have more challenging battles, puzzles, and traps. Don't stop listening now. PC fans are incredibly loyal, if they're treated right. If they're treated wrong, however, the bad press and negative community feedback can poison a franchise for years to come.

PC gamers are ready and willing to pay for the Epilogue DLC. The demand is there. It's up to Ubisoft to take advantage of it. The ball's in your court.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Cool Everybody should send one letter (or more), and maybe then we will get DLC on PC.

[pop_sot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UbiRazz:
Sort of an unfair poll to prove a point really - if you're on this forum then you're likely a PoP fan, you clearly have a PC and you probably played PoP on PC, so therefore it's very likely you'll want the DLC. Therefore the number of 'no's should be 0.

Unfortunately for business reasons we won't be seeing any PoP DLC appear. Sorry guys! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats what the purpose is to find out the number of people in this forum interested in this. Many a times people from outside who arent interested in forums writing just sign in the forums just to participate in Poll. Plus its a platform on which PC Gamers atleast voice their opinion no matter whether the DLC is appearing on PC or not and do some extra demand from developers. And the Number of no's arent 0, 3 people said they dont care, 1 said no so far.

[sp_darkpop]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UbiRazz:
Sort of an unfair poll to prove a point really - if you're on this forum then you're likely a PoP fan, you clearly have a PC and you probably played PoP on PC, so therefore it's very likely you'll want the DLC. Therefore the number of 'no's should be 0.

Unfortunately for business reasons we won't be seeing any PoP DLC appear. Sorry guys! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry?

You disappointed me very very very much. You are Ubisoft and not EA! Downright mean! Unfair! PC Gamer also Prince of Persia Fans and we are much more like the other. How much money did Microsoft and Sony pay you? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Rebellion! We want it too! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

[Keksus]

Ubisoft is just great. they wanted to sell pop 3 millionen times. They only managed it to sell 2,2 millionen copies. great idea to scare the customers away. Would the DLC coming for pc many pc gamers may have bought the game to the release of the dlc. But instead it seems they are planning to sell far less copies from the sequel.

I already start to make a petition. Just give me some time, i will post it here whhen it's online. I know it might do nothing, but at least it doesn't cost anything to make it.

[pop_sot]

Relax Keksus http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[curlyhairedboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by laxsiber:
Everybody should send one letter (or more), and maybe then we will get DLC on PC. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>that's EXACTLY what needs to happen. everyone here needs to send 1 or more emails to the people i've listed earlier. the more emails from different people they get, the more they'll understand the chance they're missing.

as for whom to email, i chose people at the developer level, the regional level, and the global level. you can find their contact info here:

http://www.ubisoftgroup.com/index.php?p=69&art_id

with a sustained effort, we may be able to see a change.

[Keksus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pop_sot:
Relax Keksus http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just edited my post. a petition, posted in many forums isn't just about the hardcore PoP fans here.

I hope i can start it tomorrow.

[pop_sot]

I think the official forums is an enough platform to voice your suggestions and opinions. The Dev Team do read the forums. UBIRazz is a part of it. Surely they know that in the forums PC gamers are dying to get their hands on DLC. I dont think the e-mail thing will leave any extra impact. Whatever we want to write we can write it on Forums.


PS: Kekesus, Check your PT

[Keksus]

There's one thing i didn't get: Why?

I really doubt that there are any contracts iwth microsoft or sony included. PoP isn't such a big game like GTA, which everyone knows. So i just don't get it. Why give the PC gamers the game, but not the DLC. This game has his small group of fans, and it doesn't make sense to **** them off.

[DiDoFRGT10]

That is the dumbest move a gaming company could do imo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

That's all I have to say

[laxsiber]

Just keep posting that we want DLC on PC and it should be good for start. Maybe they will realize that PC is important platform.

[SinoK]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Unfortunately for business reasons we won't be seeing any PoP DLC appear. Sorry guys! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


WHAT?!

There's NO reason to such bad decision.... Ubisoft don't wanna make money on PC?!


Battlefield 2, Mirror's Edge, World of Warcraft, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Call of Duty 4, Guild Wars, Unreal Tournament, team Fortress 2, Crysis Wars and many more PC titles have DLC.

There's a lot of bussines possibilities on PC:

- You can release the DLC for free. Is the best way to loyal your users, and gain reasons to sell more games.
Is the way VALVe works.

- You can release the DLC paying. You can use UBi's Digital Store, or PoP official site, or other services like D2D or STEAM.
Is the way EA works.



So there's NO reason to let PC users withouth new content. It'snot fair. If you develop a product you have to support it, like all other versions.

[pop_sot]

Keksus, I highly agree with UBIRaaz about the fact its because of variety of business reasons. He's right. Trust me, there must be very solid reasons behind it business-wise. Personally, I dont have any objection on this decision.

I am just worried about the fact that DLC is a continution of the Story, i.e. where we ended up in climax. And As said by the Assoicate Producer "Jamal" that there will be lot developing between Prince and Elika Relationship and if I remember it will add some new meaning to the story.

This is the thing to worry about, When we would be playing the Full-Fledge Sequal of this game we would be unaware from the experience of DLC which the console gamers will enjoy.

Surely, Before the Full-Fledge Sequal of this POP in future, they will release the info on website maybe, videos, trailers or through youtube we would find out what take place between Prince and Elika and overall journey Post Climax in the DLC. But I am afraid we would be missing the Hands-on Experience, and we would have to play the Sequal without it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Come on Its a significant Update. Its not a minor one or an update which should be ignorable. Its certainly not. I believe they should not make DLC as a continution of the story If they decided to just release it on Consoles, instead they could give gamers extra weapons, clothes and environment to expolore but that shouldnt have nothing to do with the Original Story.

A Significant Update not on PC. Its injustice irrespective of business reasons. For us Its not good.

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Keksus:
There's one thing i didn't get: Why?

I really doubt that there are any contracts iwth microsoft or sony included. PoP isn't such a big game like GTA, which everyone knows. So i just don't get it. Why give the PC gamers the game, but not the DLC. This game has his small group of fans, and it doesn't make sense to **** them off. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif I have no more comments. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif
This is for you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

[curlyhairedboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pop_sot:
Keksus, I highly agree with UBIRaaz about the fact its because of variety of business reasons. He's right. Trust me, there must be very solid reasons behind it business-wise. Personally, I dont have any objection on this decision.

I am just worried about the fact that DLC is a continution of the Story, i.e. where we ended up in climax. And As said by the Assoicate Producer "Jamal" that there will be lot developing between Prince and Elika Relationship and if I remember it will add some new meaning to the story.

This is the thing to worry about, When we would be playing the Full-Fledge Sequal of this game we would be unaware from the experience of DLC which the console gamers will enjoy.

Surely, Before the Full-Fledge Sequal of this POP in future, they will release the info on website maybe, videos, trailers or through youtube we would find out what take place between Prince and Elika and overall journey Post Climax in the DLC. But I am afraid we would be missing the Hands-on Experience, and we would have to play the Sequal without it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Come on Its a significant Update. Its not a minor one or an update which should be ignorable. Its certainly not. I believe they should not make DLC as a continution of the story If they decided to just release it on Consoles, instead they could give gamers extra weapons, clothes and environment to expolore but that shouldnt have nothing to do with the Original Story.

A Significant Update not on PC. Its injustice irrespective of business reasons. For us Its not good. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>this is very true. Dead Space had console-exclusive DLC, but it was just a few weapon and skin packs. nothing major. This DLC, on the other hand, is practically ANOTHER ENDING TO THE GAME. you don't get more crucial than that. if you're going to make the DLC meaningful to the story, you just can't LIMIT its release to a fraction of the original audience.

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pop_sot:
Keksus, I highly agree with UBIRaaz about the fact its because of variety of business reasons. He's right. Trust me, there must be very solid reasons behind it business-wise. Personally, I dont have any objection on this decision.

I am just worried about the fact that DLC is a continution of the Story, i.e. where we ended up in climax. And As said by the Assoicate Producer "Jamal" that there will be lot developing between Prince and Elika Relationship and if I remember it will add some new meaning to the story.

This is the thing to worry about, When we would be playing the Full-Fledge Sequal of this game we would be unaware from the experience of DLC which the console gamers will enjoy.

Surely, Before the Full-Fledge Sequal of this POP in future, they will release the info on website maybe, videos, trailers or through youtube we would find out what take place between Prince and Elika and overall journey Post Climax in the DLC. But I am afraid we would be missing the Hands-on Experience, and we would have to play the Sequal without it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Come on Its a significant Update. Its not a minor one or an update which should be ignorable. Its certainly not. I believe they should not make DLC as a continution of the story If they decided to just release it on Consoles, instead they could give gamers extra weapons, clothes and environment to expolore but that shouldnt have nothing to do with the Original Story.

A Significant Update not on PC. Its injustice irrespective of business reasons. For us Its not good. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So I agree. How hell should we connect two parts? We will play second part like DLC never happened. And what is fun in it.
I play games because I want to hear story, epic story. Like Sands of Time trilogy.

[Keksus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by curlyhairedboy:
this is very true. Dead Space had console-exclusive DLC, but it was just a few weapon and skin packs. nothing major. This DLC, on the other hand, is practically ANOTHER ENDING TO THE GAME. you don't get more crucial than that. if you're going to make the DLC meaningful to the story, you just can't LIMIT its release to a fraction of the original audience. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

/signed

A few skins or a new weapon: i could live without it. But not releasing the continuation of the story for a single plattform?!

To say it with the words of the AVGN:

"What are they thinking?! Are they thinking at all?!"

Sounds rude, i know. But Ubisoft could really tell us WHY they don't release it for the pc. So it doesn't make sense.

[DiDoFRGT10]

Maybe this DLC is it? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">no sequel?</pre>

[TGammet]

Just wanted to chime in that I'm very disappointed. I bought the game on Steam and was very much looking forward to the new direction of the series without losing anything by going PC instead of console. I was a huge fan of the Sands of Time series and even re-bought those multiple times on different platforms. Even buying them finally on PC due to the lack of backwards compatibility from these newer consoles.

Due to this announcement I will not be purchasing UbiSoft's next PoP game, and will be very wary of their PC products in the future. It's too bad you can't return PC games.

EDIT: Just an aside here, but this is my game list. You can see the PoP games listed.

http://steamcommunity.com/prof...61197964502155/games (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197964502155/games)

[Ubi.Vigil]

Guys, we realise that PC PoP players like yourselves will be frustrated and disappointed by this news. As long as it's constructive you're welcome to voice an opinion on that here, however do please ensure you keep all comments civil in nature. We'll be reading the threads here as ever and passing on feedback.

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Keksus:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by curlyhairedboy:
this is very true. Dead Space had console-exclusive DLC, but it was just a few weapon and skin packs. nothing major. This DLC, on the other hand, is practically ANOTHER ENDING TO THE GAME. you don't get more crucial than that. if you're going to make the DLC meaningful to the story, you just can't LIMIT its release to a fraction of the original audience. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

/signed

A few skins or a new weapon: i could live without it. But not releasing the continuation of the story for a single plattform?!

To say it with the words of the AVGN:

"What are they thinking?! Are they thinking at all?!"

Sounds rude, i know. But Ubisoft could really tell us WHY they don't release it for the pc. So it doesn't make sense. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They won't tell us WHY they don't release it for the pc. But We can read between lines. They will stop making PC games, and not just Ubisoft. Soon PC, will become history (for games). Everyone will buy Xbox 360 or PS3. And after that Xbox 720 and PS3. :P it is not good. I herd that Ubisoft is ready for new consoles. Yves Guillemot sad that for some magazine.

[pop_sot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ubi.Vigil:
Guys, we realise that PC PoP players like yourselves will be frustrated and disappointed by this news. As long as it's constructive you're welcome to voice an opinion on that here, however do please ensure you keep all comments civil in nature. We'll be reading the threads here as ever and passing on feedback. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

/Signed

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DiDoFRGT10:
Maybe this DLC is it? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">no sequel?</pre> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It is possible.

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ubi.Vigil:
Guys, we realise that PC PoP players like yourselves will be frustrated and disappointed by this news. As long as it's constructive you're welcome to voice an opinion on that here, however do please ensure you keep all comments civil in nature. We'll be reading the threads here as ever and passing on feedback. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

DLC not on PC? ok, ok, ok...
No it is not ok we need DLC on PC. Even like part of next sequel, just make it.

[Keksus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ubi.Vigil:
Guys, we realise that PC PoP players like yourselves will be frustrated and disappointed by this news. As long as it's constructive you're welcome to voice an opinion on that here, however do please ensure you keep all comments civil in nature. We'll be reading the threads here as ever and passing on feedback. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think all of us have just one question: Why?

You're releasing the game for the ps3, the xbox360 and the pc. But the pc gamers will never know how the story will continue. Even if there will be a sequel for this pop: We will not know what happened between PoP and PoP2.

And: The DLC makes the game harder, gives you more moves, and even a new enemy. Why are the people who play it on pc not good enough for the complete game.

I bought it for pc. I spend 50€ for the game, but what we get is just half the game, because we will never see the dlc. And we think the game is too easy too. I think the DLC is also harder because players who played the game on pc(!) have yelled. So why don't we get this too?

[SinoK]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ubi.Vigil:
Guys, we realise that PC PoP players like yourselves will be frustrated and disappointed by this news. As long as it's constructive you're welcome to voice an opinion on that here, however do please ensure you keep all comments civil in nature. We'll be reading the threads here as ever and passing on feedback. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Of course.

All of us understand that nowadays console gamers are more important potential buyers. We don't like it, but we can understand.

But don't forget about PC players. PC games are still strong on many markets: Gemany, Korea, China, Poland, Finland, Russia, etc.
And PC games still sold good enough (Guild Wars 3 millions, STALKER 1.6 millions, Crysis 1.2 millions, Fallout3 1.3 millions, WoW 11 millions, The Sims 25 millions, CoD4 2 millions, HL2 8 millions, L4D 1.5 millions, etc.)
There's more PC players than console gamers, remember.


But think for a second...

How many copies PoP have sold on PC? 150k?
And how many PC players would like to pay for DLC? Maybe 20k?
Soooo... why Ubi don't want to earn 200.000$? (20.000*10$)


It has no sense.


Maybe Ubi should reconsider using STEAM and STEAMworks to have a GOOD PC-online platform , like PlayStation Network on PS3 and Xbox Live! on 360.

[cathy2008]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ubi.Vigil:
Guys, we realise that PC PoP players like yourselves will be frustrated and disappointed by this news. As long as it's constructive you're welcome to voice an opinion on that here, however do please ensure you keep all comments civil in nature. We'll be reading the threads here as ever and passing on feedback. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yes we are disappointed..VERY disappointed.If Ubisoft can't rely on her pc gamers then she souldn't have made prince of persia pc version from the beginning..but now you can't deny us the END of the story..the EPILOGUE as you say..it's truly unfair...reconsider.

[pop_sot]

Your last comment isn't nice sinok. Please use the right language. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[ELO-9191-NEO]

Well I've got to say I am incredibly disappointed. This is a very old account I made years ago and almost never used but I had to resurface it to make my point.

The way that you are treating loyal customers and loyal fans is an absolute disgrace. I can't believe I am saying this but IMO this is MUCH worse than what EA has done with DRM.

It's good to know that PC gamers are effectively second class citizens. The same PC gamers who praised you when prince of persia was revealed to be DRM free. Obviously our money isn't good enough for you.

And of course we will here the usual PR excuse that due to profits and stuff it wasn't viable but that is rubbish and we all know it. The reason that there are so many PC ports out there after all is that console games are developed on PCs! Therefore the cost of development is miniscule and even with the effects of piracy any money made is nearly 100% profit!

As long as this prejudice exists against PC gamers in ubisoft I will NEVER buy another ubi game again on ANY system!

That's alot of money ubi just lost from me actually. HAWX, Endwar PC, Splinter cell 5, assassin's creed 2 and I am alive and of course any inevitable graw or rainbow six sequels.

PC Gamers are PoP Fans too! And we want the DLC!

[McCoy17]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Keksus:
Soon PC, will become history (for games). Everyone will buy Xbox 360 or PS3. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not everyone, I can guarantee you that - I don't even own a TV and I won't buy one, either.

Did you know there are game developers out there who think "gee, the (already very popular) pc game we released could be better, we'll go back working on that until we are satisfied and then give the new game away to those who bought the original one."? Sadly, they even remade their great pc game for consoles now, but again they remade the combat system for that new release.

That kind of developers may not get to be overwhelmingly rich or be a huge company someday, but they build up a loyal fan community and I bet they sleep well at night.

Alas, those are a tiny minority and the majority of the game industry goes the opposite path, conforming to modern throwaway society. We'll see where that gets us in the end. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[Shubb]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UbiRazz:
Sort of an unfair poll to prove a point really - if you're on this forum then you're likely a PoP fan, you clearly have a PC and you probably played PoP on PC, so therefore it's very likely you'll want the DLC. Therefore the number of 'no's should be 0.

Unfortunately for business reasons we won't be seeing any PoP DLC appear. Sorry guys! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmmm, business reasons...
Another bitterly disappointed pc owner here. I don't own either of the consoles which will be getting the extra story goodness. I am seriously annoyed that Ubisoft cannot look beyond the easy option of just punting out the DLC on the established PSN and xbox market place. I am shocked that you can't get it together to use one of the now many pc digital distribution networks. Others have mentioned some of them but you can buy POP on Steam for gods sake! The business relationship to get it out there is already established, it is not as if you have to go looking for some one to partner with is it? It's not as if you have been paid for exclusivity is it? You can see the reasons for pc gamers to get boned over Tomb Raider & GTA 4 DLC as Microsoft have ponied up the dough to keep us without the extras. PC gaming in't dying but is sure getting a kicking. C'mon Ubisoft, where's the love?

[curlyhairedboy]

guys, the important thing is not the loudness of our voices, but the number of our voices. keep everything civil, and most importantly, get the word out about this issue. if you've got a blog, website, friends - make sure they know so they can add their voices to our own.

[pop_sot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by curlyhairedboy:
guys, the important thing is not the loudness of our voices, but the number of our voices. keep everything civil, and most importantly, get the word out about this issue. if you've got a blog, website, friends - make sure they know so they can add their voices to our own. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

/Signed

[curlyhairedboy]

well, the news is spreading...

http://www.overclock.net/video...ia-epilogue-dlc.html (http://www.overclock.net/video-game-news/454380-ubisoft-forum-prince-persia-epilogue-dlc.html)

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/n...-Not-Available-On-PC (http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/44423/Prince-Of-Persia-Epilogue-DLC-Not-Available-On-PC)

this ain't makin' people happy, i can tell you that.

[DATolin]

I'm disheartened by the news that the PC users won't see the DLC... I've picked up all the recent PoP titles for the PC because I don't like how they control on consoles so the computer happens to be my platform of choice for the series and being undervalued as a consumer kind of stinks simply because of my choice of platform. I've never been too big on the 360 and I haven't been able to afford a PS3, but my computer runs things pretty well still.

Please don't leave the PC fans of the franchise out of the loop... this is an integral part of the story, right? At least this first bit of DLC, which continues the story as an epilogue. I feel we should be able to enjoy it just as much as the 360 and PS3 owners. To essentially tell me that in order to experience Elika and the Prince's adventure I'll have to turn to the console versions is somewhat unfair to me as a consumer who paid maybe $10 less for the PC version than the console versions. You want my other 10, you can have it... in exchange for the same privilege you are granting the console players. Any additional DLC, as long as it doesn't affect the storyline itself, I will feel sad about having missed but won't lament too much... this story-centric content though is really important. Please, Ubi... I for one just want to experience the game the same any everyone else, but on my PC *grins*

Pleading with you aside, I understand the business concern - you are simply doing whatever is perceived as best for the company... it's just extremely disappointing to be on the short end of the corporate stick, especially as a loyal fan. I urge the decision makers at Ubi to reconsider and release at the very least the Epilogue DLC to PC users alongside or shortly after it's available for the console versions. Thanks for reading...

[Daroth_343]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ubi.Vigil:
Guys, we realise that PC PoP players like yourselves will be frustrated and disappointed by this news. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Really? A simple "No DLC for you, sorry guys!" doesn't exactly show us that you care, in fact it shows exactly the opposite.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ubi.Vigil:
We'll be reading the threads here as ever and passing on feedback. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Which won't get us the DLC, so we're left with a part of a new PoP franchise that we can't complete. Unless the news hits Gamespot or IGN it's pretty obvious now that Ubisoft won't reconsider their decision, they've already shown that plenty of times in the past.

[curlyhairedboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Daroth_343:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ubi.Vigil:
Guys, we realise that PC PoP players like yourselves will be frustrated and disappointed by this news. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Really? A simple "No DLC for you, sorry guys!" doesn't exactly show us that you care, in fact it shows exactly the opposite.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ubi.Vigil:
We'll be reading the threads here as ever and passing on feedback. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Which won't get us the DLC, so we're left with a part of a new PoP franchise that we can't complete. Unless the news hits Gamespot or IGN it's pretty obvious now that Ubisoft won't reconsider their decision, they've already shown that plenty of times in the past. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>i think the developers don't want anyone to miss out. if anything, it would be the "how can we monetize this" suits in the marketing/accounting departments who are holding it up. that's why complaining on a message board isn't going to do much. the people whose decision it is don't even know about this topic, and they won't care. what WILL cause them to care is a concerted email campaign by real people.

so, take the issue to the people who can make a difference:

http://www.ubisoftgroup.com/index.php?p=69&art_id

[Daroth_343]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by curlyhairedboy:
so, take the issue to the people who can make a difference:

http://www.ubisoftgroup.com/index.php?p=69&art_id </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Those people can't make a difference.

[Jaggerjacks]

Next there will be no Prince of Persia 2 on PC, then no Far Cry 3 PC. The day I can only play MMOs and popcap games on PC is the day I stop gaming.

[pop_sot]

hmmmm..... Look at those boards, There are not Happy people out there because of the Newz.

[Adam_M1984]

Personally I have XBOX 360 and PC. I bought PC version of new PoP. And what now I must to do??
Go and buy Xbox version only for DLC ??
I only want an answer - why no DLC for PC, simply why??
Because not enought PS3/Xbox PoP versions was sold?? Or not enought PC version??
I'm angry, but I want to hear some reasonable arguments from the opposite site, so please tell me why wouldn't be DLC for PC !!

[curlyhairedboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Daroth_343:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by curlyhairedboy:
so, take the issue to the people who can make a difference:

http://www.ubisoftgroup.com/index.php?p=69&art_id </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Those people can't make a difference. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>well, they're the only contacts we have. it may be that they can't help us, but with any luck they'll direct us to those who can.

y'know, those "good business reasons" could be something like this:

PoP has been out long enough that console-owning folks are starting to think about trading it in. to preempt this, and give those gamers a reason to keep the game, they're releasing the DLC. It's all about trying to increase game retention and decrease used game sales. perfectly understandable.

now, look how a PC DLC release throws a monkey wrench into those plans. Gamer A hears about the DLC; he also hears about how the PC version of the DLC will most likely be free (because PC gamers won't pay for DLC) or easy to pirate and decides on a course of action that will maximize his money: he'll sell his console version, pirate the DRM-free PC version, play or pirate the DLC, and come out 20 bucks richer from the trade-in.

as you can see, Ubisoft loses all around.

that's probably the reason why the PC version DLC isn't coming anytime soon.

I just want the good folks at Ubisoft to know this: We don't care if you have to delay the PC version DLC for a long time - so you can make money off of the console versions. We'll wait six months. Just let us have it eventually, alright?

[MysterD]

Whether in a patch for free, in the retail store on disc, or by finding some way to distribute DLC for the PC digitally, you can't come up with a way to sell PoP: Epilogue DLC?

UbiSoft, you mean to tell me you can't make any sort of DLC available on disc to buy at any time for the PC version of Prince of Persia?

UniSoft, you mean to tell me you can't strike a deal with Microsoft to sell Prince Of Persia: Epilogue DLC over their Games For Windows Live service for 800 points or $10 USA even - or any other price you feel like selling the DLC at?

UbiSoft, you mean to tell me you can't even find a way to sell your PoP: Epilogue DLC over Steam even?

UbiSoft, you can't find a way for me to buy PoP: Epilogue DLC over your site via a credit card somehow?

[McCoy17]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by curlyhairedboy:
now, look how a PC DLC release throws a monkey wrench into those plans. Gamer A hears about the DLC; he also hears about how the PC version of the DLC will most likely be free (because PC gamers won't pay for DLC) or easy to pirate and decides on a course of action that will maximize his money: he'll sell his console version, pirate the DRM-free PC version, play or pirate the DLC, and come out 20 bucks richer from the trade-in.

I just want the good folks at Ubisoft to know this: We don't care if you have to delay the PC version DLC for a long time - so you can make money off of the console versions. We'll wait six months. Just let us have it eventually, alright? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ahem... you are pretty desperate, aren't you? You let yourself be criminalized, heck, you even do it yourself and then you get on your knees and beg? I'm sorry, but that's kind of pathetic.

I want the DLC too and I would pay for it (if not "whatever it takes"), but if my money's not good enough for them, I won't supplicate and embarrass myself. I will do about it what I do about games with malware (copy protection) on it: I won't buy those games anymore, simple as that. I own enough games that are too good to ever resell them and I can occupy myelf for a looong time replaying those games because they are not made for playing once and discarding them. If they make games like that, it's their own fault the gamers sell them, so don't make them into the poor pennyless victims, okay? It's their own fault if they can't decide whether to sell games you get fed up with quickly, so you will want to buy new games, but then they can't cope with those low-grade products being re-sold.

And I, the second class customer, feel insulted, because I got a game with a very unsatisfying ending, but don't get to have the epilogue, which might remedy that (or not). So I basically bought a whole game, but only get to play 80% or 90% of it? That's evil.

[MysterD]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">now, look how a PC DLC release throws a monkey wrench into those plans. Gamer A hears about the DLC; he also hears about how the PC version of the DLC will most likely be free (because PC gamers won't pay for DLC) or easy to pirate and decides on a course of action that will maximize his money: he'll sell his console version, pirate the DRM-free PC version, play or pirate the DLC, and come out 20 bucks richer from the trade-in.

as you can see, Ubisoft loses all around </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who's to say the console version of this DLC won't get pirated around, either?

If Far Cry 2 and GoW2 for the consoles such as the X360 got mass-pirated like they did, who's to say PoP: Epilogue DLC for the X360 won't join the club, as well?

I mean, it's not like there'll be some sort of DRM protecting the PoP Epilogue DLC that you are supposed to buy from X-Box Live.

About buying DLC PC, I bought Oblivion's DLC when it was released on disc with the KOTN stuff.

If UbiSoft feels inclined, they could release all the DLC on the PC at a later date on DISC for retail store, after they are done releasing one or many console DLC's for Prince of Persia. I'm sure they could do this via Steam, G4WL, or any other places they feel inclined, too -- since this is THEIR product and all.

[curlyhairedboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by McCoy17:
Ahem... you are pretty desperate, aren't you? You let yourself be criminalized, heck, you even do it yourself and then you get on your knees and beg? I'm sorry, but that's kind of pathetic. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>actually, the lack of DRM on the PC version is a welcome change from the "criminalization" of customers. the use of DRM assumes the customer is going to try to copy the game; the fact that it's not present shows they're no longer holding that assumption. i'm not sure where you're getting that from.

as with anything with a engrossing narrative, people who enjoy the story will definitely want to see more of it. it's like if Valve decided to not release Half Life episode 3 on PC and 360, but made it exclusive to one or the other. it leaves a significant portion of the fanbase in the lurch.

[MysterD]

It's not like HL2: Episode One or Two were too long, either -- 4-5 hours a piece per Episode, if that -- which they sold via Steam online and/or through retail outlets for the gamer to buy.

Fallout 3's Operation Anchorage DLC is sold for PC through G4WL for 800 points or $10 US. BethSoft hasn't forgotten us, have they?

That 4-5 hour length HL2 Episodes and FO3's DLC sounds like what the PoP: Epilogue DLC has planned for gamers, in length. They could follow that model above.

You know, if Ubisoft feels inclined, why don't they just re-release PoP for the PC with the extra DLC content on disc in a PoP: Complete Edition, at a later date? Sure, I'll buy it -- when it gets cheaper (since I already paid for Prince Of Persia PC without DLC).

And UbiSoft, thank you for no DRM on the PC version of PoP. No matter what, that is and was highly appreciated.

[pop_sot]

Whoopps!!! This News is spreading like a Bullet. Big Download spotted that and the news is spreading in the game websites.

[abaqus1977]

Please UBI I would love to buy the DLC. Please...

[SinoK]

People are very outraged.

http://kotaku.com/5144986/ther...ince-of-persia-on-pc (http://kotaku.com/5144986/there-will-be-no-dlc-for-prince-of-persia-on-pc)

[Mirkon]

So, what? Should I expect the DLC to rely on some Xbox 360 + PS3 feature that isn't possible on the PC?

Or am I really supposed to believe that the trivial development/porting, and incredible ease of distribution, is still too expensive to justify for the number of PC copies of this game sold through?

What a crock.

[Daroth_343]

http://www.thatvideogameblog.c...lc-not-coming-to-pc/ (http://www.thatvideogameblog.com/2009/02/02/prince-of-persia-dlc-not-coming-to-pc/)

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/57048

http://www.yougamers.com/news/...rince_of_persia_dlc/ (http://www.yougamers.com/news/22782_pc_gamers_snubbed_on_prince_of_persia_dlc/)

http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-b...story&threadid=95335 (http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=viewstory&threadid=95335)

[Ferrodar]

Ouch. Even though I'll be playing it on my PS3, I'm also a hardcore PC gamer. I don't really know what to say, this is just incredibly lame. I was fully expecting the DLC to show up on PC, quite amazed at this news actually.

[Keksus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pop_sot:
hmmmm..... Look at those boards, There are not Happy people out there because of the Newz. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This all looks for me like Ubisoft wants to destroy his reputation.

Really: What's wrong? You published Assassin's for the PC because you want as many gamers as possible to play it. Now it really looks like you give a **** about the people who play games on the pc.

But i doubt you're dumb. So: What did ubisoft thought when they made that decision? "Hey! We make more money with console games. We don't need pc gamers!"?

Well, if you publish another game for the pc this doesn't make sense for me. And wasn't Tom Clancy's Endwar announced for the PC? Or HAWX? Well...i wanted to buy them. But not anymore. As i can see you don't want my money anymore.

[Piratewolf]

Holy crap...I can't believe this is even happening. I got this game for Christmas from my brother. I was surprised he didn't buy me the PC version since I suggested it (as it was cheaper and I prefer gaming on my PC anyway) and now I'm extremely glad he didn't...if he had, I would be so ****ed off right now.

I can understand if the logistics simply aren't there, but I expect a better reason than nothing, which is basically what's been said so far. Either way, nothing they could say would make me happy about this if I did have the PC version.

I expect better treatment than this from EA, frankly, and I hate EA.

Ubisoft tends to learn from their mistakes from what I've noticed, but the fact that they never seem to FIX them irritates me. Prove me wrong. Please.

[LordJuanlo]

So here we are, with an unfinished story. What are we supposed to do now?. Buy a console, the game, and the DLC to watch the real ending?. This is ridiculous, I have every Prince of Persia game on my PC since the original from Jordan Mechner. Why are we treated like second-class customers now?.

Fallout 3 has DLC for PC, Mirror's Edge will have DLC for PCs, even Mass Effect got the console DLC included in the PC version for free.

That's the way to lose customers Ubisoft, very bad move imho

[pop_sot]

One is thing for sure that enormous Hype has been created for the DLC since Yesterday. This goes in favour of the team. Maybe we will have that but for like 6 months later. Hope so....

[Nutcrackr]

Ubisoft have really lost a lot of points with me. I was just having a bit of hope in them after PoP turned out to be a pretty good port. But now they shun the PC for "business reasons"

I'd really like to know the real reason or reasons for this dubious choice. But even then I wouldn't be satisfied because all it will say to me is that ubisoft aren't a publisher that tries to help and support it's fans.

Very poor ubisoft. I'll be taking my money elsewhere next time I'm given the option.

[bansama.com]

Ubisoft, it is with regret that I have to inform you that I will no longer be able to purchase any future game from you for business reasons. Your business reasons.

While I applauded the fact that after years, you finally released some of your games (including this one) worldwide over Steam, and in support of that I purchased this game, this recent business decision of yours has made me realise that supporting you just simply isn't worth it.

Why should we be treated any differently to customers on other systems? Is our money not as worthy as theirs? Is our enjoyment of a game not as important as theirs? Well, I guess your games are no longer going to be finding their way on my hard drive in future.

Your games were nice while they lasted, but I simply cannot support a company that makes such inane, mindblowing, business decisions. Sorry about that, but in future, my money will be going to other companies that still treat PC gamers in a suitable manner.

[erbkaiser]

Thanks for leaving out part of the game to get some 'DLC', and then refusing to even sell it to us.
Way to withhold support and content from paying customers.

Combine this with your refusal to sell most of your games outside of NA through Steam, and I am wondering if you're deliberately trying to destroy the company.

Others have listed Fallout 3's expansion before, but there are more examples, like Stardock's Sins of a Solar Empire. Like POP08 it is not infested with DRM, but they still sell mini-expansions for it ('DLC') for $10. Unless you hate money, there's no reason why you couldn't do the same.

Paying customers will buy it... pirates were never your customers in the first place. To punish your client base to prevent thieves on getting their hands on your work only will result in a loss of support from the clientele that pays your checks, and eventually you won't be able to make games anymore.

Oh wait, I nearly forgot that Ubisoft makes most of its money from Wii shovelware these days... no wonder your 'business reasons' can exclude us http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[jripper]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UbiRazz:
Unfortunately for business reasons we won't be seeing any PoP DLC appear. Sorry guys! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is SO lame.

If these are your last words, PoP was the last Ubisoft game I purchased.

[Keksus]

I think we only reason we won't get that DLC is filesharing. But Ubisoft is making a bad mistake if they really **** off every pc gamer because they won't release the DLC because of that.

Please Ubisoft: We aren't dumb. We don't want that the DLC isn't protected. You could include DRM in it, as long as you don't limitate the installations. I would have no problem to activate the DLC with my ubisoft account, as long as i can play it. And i think many people here share my opinion. Just not releasing the DLC for the pc isn't the right way.

And please can you do us a favor? We can only guess why you don't release the DLC for the PC. Please say us what these buisness reasons are, because we can't argue about it if we don't know what about we are arguing.

[Tidegear]

I'll really be angry if the DLC doesn't come to PC. Sorry doesn't cut it.

[SinoK]

* UBi could make a deal with NVIDIA to sponsor the DLC content for free, like Infinity Ward did with CoD 4 maps.

* Or UBi can use STEAM to deliver the content.

There's many possibilities out there.

[Tahnit]

Ubirazz. We demand another response.

As you can see we are not just going to go quietly away. I am sending this story to every news site i can find. The word will get out and your reputation will be ruined in the eyes of PC gamers.

So..it would be in your best interest to retract your statement about no DLC for PC. <span class="ev_code_RED">NOW</span>

[Keksus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">to sponsor the DLC content for free, </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If they want to make it for free there would be no need to deny pc gamers the content. but i think they want the pc gamers to buy a console, the game for this console and then the dlc. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

[Ferrodar]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tahnit:
<span class="ev_code_RED">NOW</span> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[abaqus1977]

Don't forget to vote on the first page, please.

[Keksus]

Ubisoft already gave pc gamers the extra skins. coeme on: It isn't hard to give us the rest of the dlc too. We even would pay the same price for the dlc like the console gamers.

[bansama.com]

I think we only reason we won't get that DLC is filesharing.

But even that makes little sense considering that even the consoles are rife with piracy. Publishers just refuse to admit that.

[Keksus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">But even that makes little sense considering that even the consoles are rife with piracy. Publishers just refuse to admit that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ubisoft is a publisher. So it makes sense for them, but not for us.

[SageShadowbane]

This is hilarious, I'm sure they'll have the nerve to say their next game didn't sell well on PC either.

No **** Sherlock, you're just killing off your fanbase here and now :x

[alexyu1]

If a big studio doesn't listen to 93% (and raising) of its fans, bad things happen.

[DiS2005]

Well, well, well Ubisoft. Shot yourself in the foot here. I remember reading an interview before a the games release stating that you will be releasing DLC for the “Prince of Persia” not “Prince of Persia on 360 and PS3”. I know if you stated the latter you would have no one buying the game on PC but, as the world works now, that is deception. Which I guess is a suing offense I guess.

You cheated and alienated your fans by promising DLC for PC and not delivering on that said promise. People wonder why the PC market is low, it's due to been constantly screwed over for Console gamers over and over again. I can tell you now there is the same amount of PC Gamers now, then there was in the high of PC game sales, even more now I would guess. If you invested more time into PC marketing you'd find the sales would be much better than just sending ports our way and expecting us to keep out mouth shut about it.

Now I was getting side tracked there. But I believe the point backs me up. I thought Ubisoft was the shining beacon of hope in the games industry (somewhere I'm hoping to end up), games made by gamers for gamers. I know you're a business and I've been looking at an outstanding amount of threads on other forums about this PC DLC problem and you're throwing away money. Madness, since your a business.

Sadly you're losing a customer here as well. And I wouldn't be surprised if you see a noticeable drop in sales in the future. Anyway, good luck ubi.

[AlexFly]

I can't believe you do that to the PC players, Ubisoft !

I always buy a lot of titles to your company and you were my favorite publisher until now. I thought you had a lot of consideration for the fans and that you were listening a lot but apparently I was wrong...

Thank you for this lack of respect !

[MinscTheHunter]

I too am extremely disappointed that Ubi will not release the content for PC. I would gladly have paid for the downloadable content.
I hadn't bought an Ubi game for years, but I was so happy that they released the game without copy protection, that I bought 2 copies of the game (as well as a variety of bonus items), just to support them. Well, if this is the level of support that I can expect from them, then this is the last game I bought from them. And although I loved this game, this also means I will pass on any sequels. I'll go back to playing games from companies who DO care about their customers!

[Aratham]

I dug up this old(ish) account just to throw in my own two cents and protest that this is all kinds of Not Cool.

Personally I'm not the type to get upset when a specific platform gets extra content, whether it's new skins, weapons, multiplayer maps. But here, we're talking about a continuation to the story, expanded gameplay mechanics and maybe even a solution to some of the more often complained-about overall weaknesses of the game. A miniature expansion, basically. And it's just one specific platform being locked out, despite plenty of instances where other companies delivered DLC to it successfully.

I'll be thinking twice about buying Ubisoft games in the future, in case they're planning to make this their standard operating procedure.

[alexyu1]

Would anyone be into spamming the forum to death on the 26th if they dont release it for PC?

[Oumysoft]

Unless this DLC comes out later or is included in the sequel, then they have just lost another loyal POP/Ubi fan, I too am not the type to get upset over minor extra content given to specific platforms, but something as major as this is not fair to the PC community.

Im generally very hard to let go of something im loyal to, but I will defiantly be thinking twice before buyin any sequel, let alone another Ubi game.

[sp_darkpop]

You make a big mistake Ubisoft. What's up? Sorry? Why we don't get the DLC?
I don't unterstand your business reasons. Great business reasons http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

[bitebug2003]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by alexyu1:
Would anyone be into spamming the forum to death on the 26th if they dont release it for PC? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wouldn't if I were you.

You can use this thread or the top stickie to vent your anger, but do it constructively.

[FireEmpress]

Haven't been here in a while but saw the news of this on Kotaku.
All I can say is PC gamers aren't dumb enough to be paying for DLC in the first place, and even if it was coming out for a PC I personally wouldn't spend a cent on your casual-flash abortion.
Just like I didn't on the full-game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I think it's easy to say (by reading posts in last few months about Ubi in general and judging the games they churned out last few years) they lost a lot of gamers and respect in industry. Seriously, what happened, at their starting years they used to be this independent game developer with fresh good games people wanted a piece of, now they are just like most others....greed got them in the end, and it's sucking away all of their creativity and freedom to try new stuff -no, casual half-assed game is not a "daring innovation", anyone who says so clearly played 5 games in their whole lives, and they were all s***.

Oh well, the last game I got from them was....SC Chaos Theory.
Wow, that was a while ago.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">"Unfortunately for business reasons we won't be seeing any PoP DLC appear. Sorry guys!" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
Tremendously sorry about 85% of your game market is made out of casual games?
Hmmmm.

Anyone that buys this DLC is supporting their money scheme and deserves to be ripped off in every sense.
It's because of you we can't have nice things.

With that said I'll just finish my post with this http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5152/whywecanthavenicethingsqo4.jpg

[pop_sot]

Glad you are here Empress! I was waiting for ya http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[sp_darkpop]

For business reasons, we won't buy your games. Sorry Ubisoft!

[BLooDLineS666]

look PoP fans. i am a pc gamerr like you, everyone. and now, you (pc gamers) are all angry with ubi and I am too. i understand you. but you have been saying that "i wont pop's sequel or any ubisoft game." . dont do this please. Please continue to buy PoP games, but not ubi's other games. here, it's ubisoft who must be punished by us, not PoP. We must not and cannot punish PoP, because PoP is our LOVE. But you and I can punish ubi forever.

Second, i am Turkish. In Turkey now, most of PoP fans angry with ubi on the way i can' tell. They are saying that they wont any ubi games EXCEPT POP. And i agree with those and you, pc gamers.

I want to say this: dont be sad. Nothing can be more important (esp ubisoft) than us and our thoughts. And i've got to say smth to ubi: you wont make this DLC come, ok. But you must show all pc gamers in the sequel of PoP what happened on this DLC.

I wish you would think of us and all pc gamers ubisoft...

[curlyhairedboy]

does ubisoft even realize how many gamers are affected by this?

it is NOT RIGHT to release 85% of the game on all platforms, then deny that last 15% to a significant portion of your audience.

That's like inviting someone to a party, then handing out sticks to all of the other guests and telling the person that they're the pinata.

it's a complete reversal of intent, and it's made all the more shocking by what we thought was a genuine attempt to improve relations with PC gamers.

It would have been better if you had not released the game for PC at all, than to do it in such a half-hearted, cruel way.

If this decision stands, the PC gaming community won't forget it. Please reconsider.

[bansama.com]

I'm sorry, but I don't want to just read about what happened in content that is being restricted from me due to "business reasons" that Ubisoft can't even be bothered to explain. And I most certainly won't be buying any sequel to a game from which part of the storyline has been withheld from me.

If you keep buying these games while they restrict parts of the content from it, all you're telling Ubisoft is that it's okay for them to do that as they will still get your money the next time.

Nope, not me. That was my first Prince of Persia game on the PC, and it's my last Prince of Persia game regardless of the system. I simply cannot support this unexplained "business reason", nor the company that decided it was a good idea.

I know my posts on this forum, and any such comments I post elsewhere will mean nothing to Ubisoft, but the revenue they will now lose from my no longer purchasing their products? They'll probably feel that one of these days.

[BLooDLineS666]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by curlyhairedboy:
does ubisoft even realize how many gamers are affected by this?

it is NOT RIGHT to release 85% of the game on all platforms, then deny that last 15% to a significant portion of your audience.

That's like inviting someone to a party, then handing out sticks to all of the other guests and telling the person that they're the pinata.

it's a complete reversal of intent, and it's made all the more shocking by what we thought was a genuine attempt to improve relations with PC gamers.

It would have been better if you had not released the game for PC at all, than to do it in such a half-hearted, cruel way.

If this decision stands, the PC gaming community won't forget it. Please reconsider. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



i agree with your thoughts as well, my firend.

[laxsiber]

Ubisoft made next-gen prince for consoles. PC version was just modulate from it. You could see if you played it on gamepad. They modulate game so good so it look like it is made for special PC. Game released for PC later because they wanted to protect it from piracy and make it to look like it is not modulate from consoles by putting details like icons for buttons.

[JunkmailMan]

So I for once try and support the company by buying the game and this is how they repay me?

Well I just won't be buying anymore Ubi titles. Sorry it's nothing personal. Just business.

[Technostar]

I'm personally unaffected by this news since in general I find the DLC model of content for games unappealing and unattractive to begin with, however, it's certainly unfortunate for other PC gamers as can be seen here in the thread. Especially after such a "warm" and almost thoughtful release of the base game (i.e. DRM free) towards the PC gaming community.

While not passing any judgement on the decision beyond only stating it would be nice to see the DLC for PC gamers, what would be very interesting is to know more about the business reasons behind reaching the conclusion.

[curlyhairedboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JunkmailMan:
So I for once try and support the company by buying the game and this is how they repay me?

Well I just won't be buying anymore Ubi titles. Sorry it's nothing personal. Just business. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>this is exactly what's happening: folks who thought ubisoft was making a change for the better, who went out and purchased the game - are getting screwed over by the DLC.

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by alexyu1:
Would anyone be into spamming the forum to death on the 26th if they dont release it for PC? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would love to do it but I know that DLC will come on PC.
But,

"<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UbiRazz:
"Unfortunately for business reasons we won't be seeing any PoP DLC appear. Sorry guys!" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It is business move. They say it and later make DLC (Epilogue) for PC. Maybe like DLC or like part of next sequel.

[ShadoWiFirSt]

Wow.. i'm so angry that i didn't w8 with buying this new PoP until now because now i wouldn't. I bet if everyone would see that the PC would get max 1000 copies sold... BTW. i bet now PC version will stop selling at all. Last game i ever bought from Ubisoft. Damn and i really thought they were nice and smart but reality strikes you when you grow up.

[BLooDLineS666]

so, does it mean you give up playing PoP, pc gamers?

[Yama-B]

That's very unfortunate. This new trend of keeping DLC exclusive to certain platforms is certainly disturbing. However, at least in the case of GTAIV, it was known before release that the DLC would be exclusive, and it also doesn't have any impact on the game's main storyline, it's a standalone story.

Ubisoft, if I had known you planned on keeping part of the storyline of the new PoP game away from PC customers, I wouldn't have bought your game. As you can see here (http://steamcommunity.com/id/zariel/games) in my small list of games bought through Steam, three of them are from you.

I have many other PC Ubisoft games that I bought from retail, such as the PoP trilogy. You make great games, I enjoy them, but if this is your final decision, then I'm afraid that because of your "business reasons", I won't be buying any of your games anymore.

[mblmg]

I won't be buying the next PoP if it continues the same story.
It's like you played WW with the bad ending and in the beginning of T2T you wonder why Kaileena is still alive because you have no idea of what has happened.
We will probably get a simple video at the beginning of the next part: "That, that and that. And then we killed the Shapeshifter and that's why we're here now." Yeah, thanks! Unfortunately there will be no PC PoP players left until then.

I'd rather buy Valve games from now on because they don't disappoint PC Gamers. I can promise to you that I'll never buy a Ubisoft Game again.

And "business reasons" are no explanation at all.

[BLooDLineS666]

in fact, you are right. i have begun to wonder if ubisoft will make PoP 5 come out for pc. heeehhh.

[ShadoWiFirSt]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BLooDLineS666:
in fact, you are right. i have begun to wonder if ubisoft will make PoP 5 come out for pc. heeehhh. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

With the "heeehhh" you mean you are happy because some peaople get ripped off? Then please get off the internet and tell your mother to change your pampers. Kids aren't allowed here

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BLooDLineS666:
in fact, you are right. i have begun to wonder if ubisoft will make PoP 5 come out for pc. heeehhh. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We should stop talking about it. Maybe they will make DLC for PC maybe not. Over!
Now let's talk about, maybe about POP Fanart (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=861108132&m=6131068725&r=1441095927#1441095927).

[Stevedroid]

Wow this sucks - really, really sucks. I bought the SoT trilogy on PS2, then bought them again on PC when they hit Steam to have them with slightly improved graphics. I bought PoP '08 for PC on release day knowing it would be the best version...and it was up until yesterday when UbiRazz dropped a f*cking A-bomb on the community.

Seriously, I want to give you my money! Why won't you let me give you my money Ubisoft? Surely development of the DLC for PC can't be so expensive as to offset even modest sales?

Is it because you don't have an established portal through which to release the DLC (a la using Games For Windows like Bethesda did for Fallout 3)? How about using Steam? They already have the infrastructure for releasing downloadable content obviously and it is possible for them to release expansions in such a way that they will work on even the non-Steam versions of games (for example, the Warhammer: Dawn of War - Dark Cursade expansion (http://store.steampowered.com/app/4580/) will work with both the retail and Steam versions of Dawn of War).

Please Ubisoft, don't screw your PC fans over like this, work something out with Steam to deliver the DLC through them and then you don't have to worry about developing some new portal through which to deliver it.

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Stevedroid:
Wow this sucks - really, really sucks. I bought the SoT trilogy on PS2, then bought them again on PC when they hit Steam to have them with improved graphics. I bought PoP '08 for PC on release day knowing it would be the best version...and it was up until yesterday when UbiRazz dropped a f*cking A-bomb on the community.

Seriously, I want to give you my money! Why won't you let me give you my money Ubisoft? Surely development of the DLC for PC can't be so expensive as to offset even modest sales?

Is it because you don't have an established portal through which to release the DLC (a la using Games For Windows like Bethesda did for Fallout 3)? How about using Steam? They already have the infrastructure for releasing downloadable content obviously and it is possible for them to release expansions in such a way that they will work on even the non-Steam versions of games (for example, the Warhammer: Dawn of War - Dark Cursade expansion (http://store.steampowered.com/app/4580/) will work with both the retail and Steam versions of Dawn of War).

Please Ubisoft, don't screw your PC fans over like this, work something out with Steam to deliver the DLC through them and then you don't have to worry about developing some new portal through which to deliver it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif I agree, they have game on Steam. And they could make downloadable content on Steam. Or it could be just something like expansion.

[far-cry]

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

it Should be released on Pc to but ubi woint do it sins the ask $ for it and moost of us pc gamers woint pay for DLC (the way i Should be DLC Should be free ) and console players love to $ lots off $ for a bit more game play so thats why we woint se it for pc

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[Evalar79]

I don’t post on here, just read, but frankly I felt I had to pipe up on this.
I been playing pop games since the dos days, and frankly this just confirms for me what I have always thought about Ubisoft.

They show such contempt for its customers, and there is a distinct lack of passion coming from this company about their games.
They take a famous PC licence and just sell it out to the consol masses.

Very disappointed, last pop game I buy from this sorry excuse for a games publisher.

[mike_jones22]

Add Ubisoft to the list of game developers I'm glad to pirate on PC. I actually BOUGHT this game on Steam, along with the entire PoP pack, even though I have boxed copies of the first trilogy sitting right next to my desk. Not to mention Splinter Cell, and all the other Ubi games I've purchased in the past.

You were doing fine with your first post until the last sentence -- which I've now removed.
You're angry -- granted, but please desist with the insults in future.
Thanks Bitebug2003

[McCoy17]

Maybe that's exactely what they intend to do: get rid of the high maintenance pc players, ever think of that?

PC players notice and report bugs and even have the audacity to demand that the bugs be fixed. Because they want to hold onto their games and replay them instead of buying a new game by the week.

Console players, at that rate of turnover don't even care about the bugs. If they happen at all for them. Because it is a fact that every pc player has a different hardware rig and so bugs are bound to happen to one player or another. It's not easy to make a flawless game for pc. Consoles are much easier to handle in that respect. Same hardware for all players, so no time wasted fussing about compatibility.

Speaking of... are there lists being made about the bugs in this game? Yes.
Is there a patch for pc game? No.
Pop isn't even listed in that great support system of theirs, they are not interested in supporting a product after they sold it anymore.

I asked the "support team" three times, if there's any patch for SoT on widescreen. I didn't get ANY answer, not even a stupid one. Why would they support such an old game when they want to sell new games that are produced more cost effectively?

That's really sad, because I liked the PoP games very dearly and played them repeatedly. Until now, that is...

[mboltevski]

Maybe they are just teasing us.And then they will say-we were only kidding.You didnt understood the joke?
But if they're not kidding-I'll draw the line.
PS-even consoles are pirated or maybe Ubi is from Mars?

[CDolphin]

Ubirazz,

I'm very disappointed that I won't get to play the rest of the story. I would have purchased the DLC if you would have made it for me to buy (assuming the download wasn't too huge for my capped internet connection). I still applaud you for your DRM-free POP PC version, but I do think this decision is...unfortunate. I think you've upset a lot of your fans. In the long run, that's not a great outcome for any business.

It's a sad day for us.

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mboltevski:
Maybe they are just teasing us.And then they will say-we were only kidding.You didnt understood the joke?
But if they're not kidding-I'll draw the line.
PS-even consoles are pirated or maybe Ubi is from Mars? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mars? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
And I agree. They are maybe testing us, but if not WE WILL draw the line. XD

[BLooDLineS666]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShadoWiFirSt:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BLooDLineS666:
in fact, you are right. i have begun to wonder if ubisoft will make PoP 5 come out for pc. heeehhh. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

With the "heeehhh" you mean you are happy because some peaople get ripped off? Then please get off the internet and tell your mother to change your pampers. Kids aren't allowed here </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

no,i am not happy. i am a pc gamer. and this is i wanted to explain with saying heehhhh:
i'm sick of ubisoft's these all bull****s! How do you think that i am happy? As you see, you have misunderstood me.Now please get off the internet. unsympathetic people and the ones who heve lacking in understanding arent allowed here.

[mboltevski]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by laxsiber:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mboltevski:
Maybe they are just teasing us.And then they will say-we were only kidding.You didnt understood the joke?
But if they're not kidding-I'll draw the line.
PS-even consoles are pirated or maybe Ubi is from Mars? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mars? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
And I agree. They are maybe testing us, but if not WE WILL draw the line. XD </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ubisoft is from Mars and EA is from Venus.
That is why we cannot understand their actions-they're from another planet http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

[BLooDLineS666]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by laxsiber:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BLooDLineS666:
in fact, you are right. i have begun to wonder if ubisoft will make PoP 5 come out for pc. heeehhh. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We should stop talking about it. Maybe they will make DLC for PC maybe not. Over!
Now let's talk about, maybe about POP Fanart (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=861108132&m=6131068725&r=1441095927#1441095927). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yes, that' a good idea. i have wanted say it!!! I am sick of these bad things. Then let's draw some picture and relax...

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mboltevski:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by laxsiber:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mboltevski:
Maybe they are just teasing us.And then they will say-we were only kidding.You didnt understood the joke?
But if they're not kidding-I'll draw the line.
PS-even consoles are pirated or maybe Ubi is from Mars? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mars? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
And I agree. They are maybe testing us, but if not WE WILL draw the line. XD </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ubisoft is from Mars and EA is from Venus.
That is why we cannot understand their actions-they're from another planet http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe they are and we must destroy aliens. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

[mboltevski]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BLooDLineS666:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by laxsiber:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BLooDLineS666:
in fact, you are right. i have begun to wonder if ubisoft will make PoP 5 come out for pc. heeehhh. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We should stop talking about it. Maybe they will make DLC for PC maybe not. Over!
Now let's talk about, maybe about POP Fanart (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=861108132&m=6131068725&r=1441095927#1441095927). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yes, that' a good idea. i have wanted say it!!! I am sick of these bad things. Then let's draw some picture and relax... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Agreed.Now lets smoke marijuana http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
And listen to Bob Marley.

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BLooDLineS666:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by laxsiber:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BLooDLineS666:
in fact, you are right. i have begun to wonder if ubisoft will make PoP 5 come out for pc. heeehhh. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We should stop talking about it. Maybe they will make DLC for PC maybe not. Over!
Now let's talk about, maybe about POP Fanart (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=861108132&m=6131068725&r=1441095927#1441095927). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yes, that' a good idea. i have wanted say it!!! I am sick of these bad things. Then let's draw some picture and relax... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And it is it what I am doing at the moment.

[BLooDLineS666]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mboltevski:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BLooDLineS666:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by laxsiber:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BLooDLineS666:
in fact, you are right. i have begun to wonder if ubisoft will make PoP 5 come out for pc. heeehhh. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We should stop talking about it. Maybe they will make DLC for PC maybe not. Over!
Now let's talk about, maybe about POP Fanart (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=861108132&m=6131068725&r=1441095927#1441095927). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yes, that' a good idea. i have wanted say it!!! I am sick of these bad things. Then let's draw some picture and relax... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Agreed.Now lets smoke marijuana http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
And listen to Bob Marley. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yes, taht's a good idea too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BLooDLineS666:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mboltevski:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BLooDLineS666:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by laxsiber:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BLooDLineS666:
in fact, you are right. i have begun to wonder if ubisoft will make PoP 5 come out for pc. heeehhh. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We should stop talking about it. Maybe they will make DLC for PC maybe not. Over!
Now let's talk about, maybe about POP Fanart (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=861108132&m=6131068725&r=1441095927#1441095927). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yes, that' a good idea. i have wanted say it!!! I am sick of these bad things. Then let's draw some picture and relax... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Agreed.Now lets smoke marijuana http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
And listen to Bob Marley. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yes, taht's a good idea too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe something called HULK. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Caorthine]

Ubisoft treating its customers with disrespect and disdain?
I'm shocked! Shocked! Why this has never happened before! This is such a total change from their usual business practice that it must...wait...Ubisoft?
Sorry, thought we were talking about someone else.

[curlyhairedboy]

we just want it to come out eventually. it doesn't have to be right away.

[laxsiber]

Watch this Grandma's boy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5-OwQYQxR8).
We should try to relax like that. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
PS it is from movie Grandma's boy. Movie is great. It is about some gamers.

[McCoy17]

Hello? Guys? How do you expect to be taken seriously when you make a topic about serious business s*it into getting high on pot, because some kid says so??? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Isn't there an off topic section in this forum where you can release your inner child instead of here, where you want to be heard and make your voice count?

[curlyhairedboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by McCoy17:
Hello? Guys? How do you expect to be taken seriously when you make a topic about serious business s*it into getting high on pot, because some kid says so??? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Isn't there an off topic section in this forum where you can release your inner child instead of here, where you want to be heard and make your voice count? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>agreed. :\

[laxsiber]

Sorry, I just want to relax.

[Keksus]

Well Ubisoft. Let's see how you're listening to your customers. You made the DLC harder, because we were complaining, that the game is too easy.

Now you can see a lots of psts from people who will not buy PoP anymore and other people, like me, say, that they nether will buy a game from ubisoft again.

Will you listen to us? Or is our opinion about a pc version meaningless, because we all buought the game for the pc? Well, youre surely right, there isn't a single console gamer around here. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Sorry, but what UbiRazz said in the thread is just not right. It sounds like: "You're all just PC gamers, your opinion about this isn't relevant for us." http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Keksus:
Well Ubisoft. Let's see how you're listening to your customers. You made the DLC harder, because we were complaining, that the game is too easy.

Now you can see a lots of psts from people who will not buy PoP anymore and other people, like me, say, that they nether will buy a game from ubisoft again.

Will you listen to us? Or is our opinion about a pc version meaningless, because we all buyed the game for the pc? Well, youre surely right, there isn't a single console gamer around here. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Sorry, but what UbiRazz said in the thread is just not right. It sounds like: "You're all just PC gamers, your opinion about this isn't relevant for us." http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I totally agree. They must make difficult level. (Easy, Medium, Hard...) And we want more skins, lot of skins not just one or two.

[Murmelwerfer]

Good words keksus!

laxsiber we dont want more skins, and its okay if there is only hard or low. The only thing we want is the DLC. We want to see how the game continued. NO we dont want to see it, we want play it!

[a.Umbra]

Well, I think Ubisoft's man are here... If no, this would be letter from Russia... and not last one

"Hello

I’m writing this letter like a simple computer gamer, fan of all Prince of Persia games and post of the one at forum, UbiRazz, disappoint me… Ubisoft, what a “business reasons” may not let DLC be for new Prince of Persia on PC? I thought, PC is the easiest platform to make add-ons, expansions and DL?, so what’s wrong? Well this step makes you a simple game-developers but I always think you are not simple, your games are always great…

I live in Russia, in my country PC – is the main platform of game playing, there are a hundreds of thousand (or millions) fans of Prince of Persia series and they want to see REAL end of this new masterpiece game! So why must we have only a part of story? Even more, it makes this game only small piece of story…

This news about only console DLC become a strike to our Russian fan community… I even don’t ask you to make this DLC multilang, language for fan is doesn’t matter, just please, make this DLC on PC… Cost is doesn’t matter, I’ll pay any money to play real end of epic game…

This is request from Playground, Akella and others fan community of Prince of Persia

Please

With respect
Alexander *Umbra* Tereznikov"

[jooperfish]

This action by Ubisoft is real unacceptable and unfair to the honest PC purchasers!

[Tamo123]

Given Ubisofts shoddy work in the past regarding PC games, this has come to no surprise to me and this has also drawn the line with me. Ubisoft from now on you have just lost a customer as I am sick of the way you treat your customers. I will never buy a console and I will always be a PC gamer.

You just make out like every other PC developer that we are all stealing your games, well I have news for you, not everybody does. I am a huge fan of the PoP series and have brought every single game, but you have now convinced me to not bother again with buying your games, I would rather not play any more games from you than the alternative of supporting your company.

Signed,
A very disappointed customer

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Murmelwerfer:
Good words keksus!

laxsiber we dont want more skins, and its okay if there is only hard or low. The only thing we want is the DLC. We want to see how the game continued. NO we dont want to see it, we want play it! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I put hard, medium, easy in () because I wanted to explain concept of "difficult level".
And about skins. We should show ubisoft that we care about game and that we want to play it more than 3h. Skin should be some challenge. It should force us to push our skills to limit if we want to unlock it.

[McCoy17]

~°~°~ <span class="ev_code_black">Somebody said something about deception, I would like to re-emphasize this key word. </span> ~°~°~

That's right, Ubisoft sold the pc game with the promise of DLC to come... how goes it with the news bomb to the gamer sites? Whoever spreads the word, should probably include this issue.

I am curious, if the guy who let loose this avalance (Ubirazz) will even bother to make another statement. Or anybody else of the Ubi guys. Like, for giving an explanation about their "business reasons" or if they even give a s*it anymore.

[Madrakor]

Never thought I would do this, but I signed up just to tell you how disappointed I am with your recent decision regarding the PoP08 DLC for PC.
I've always been a fan of the series, and when I heard that PoP08 would be released without any kind of copy protection I was proud to help the company that made the right decision by buying their game for the PC.

But now you just threw away the trust that I and probably other PC gamers as well put into your company. If I had known before that the DLC will not appear on PC I could have lived with it. But if I had known that the DLC is going to extend the story beyond the regular ending of the game and still won't be released for PC I probably would not have bought the game at all.

I think what bugs me most is the fact that there's no explanation as to why this content will not be released on all platforms. Just saying 'for business reasons' isn't all that helpful you know.

I expect to hear a good reason why the DLC won't be released for PC by the time it hits the consoles. If no more information has been given to the PC community by then you will have lost me as a paying customer, and I daresay others will take the same course of action.

Regards,
Madrakor

[Tiverando]

Madrakor, I agree. With PoP08 I thought Ubisoft did a rather good PC version of one of their games. With this news about not releasing the expansion for the PC for "business reasons", it feels like I should no longer purchase any Ubisoft products for "business reasons".

[phiont]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UbiRazz:

Unfortunately for business reasons we won't be seeing any PoP DLC appear. Sorry guys! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
We'll be sure to post warning comments at Amazon and other e-retailers of the PC version. ...at metacritic, too.

Potential customers of I Am Alive for PC should also be warned of what happened here.

[Andorian]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by a.Umbra:
Well, I think Ubisoft's man are here... If no, this would be letter from Russia... and not last one

"Hello

I’m writing this letter like a simple computer gamer, fan of all Prince of Persia games and post of the one at forum, UbiRazz, disappoint me… Ubisoft, what a “business reasons” may not let DLC be for new Prince of Persia on PC? I thought, PC is the easiest platform to make add-ons, expansions and DL?, so what’s wrong? Well this step makes you a simple game-developers but I always think you are not simple, your games are always great…

I live in Russia, in my country PC – is the main platform of game playing, there are a hundreds of thousand (or millions) fans of Prince of Persia series and they want to see REAL end of this new masterpiece game! So why must we have only a part of story? Even more, it makes this game only small piece of story…

This news about only console DLC become a strike to our Russian fan community… I even don’t ask you to make this DLC multilang, language for fan is doesn’t matter, just please, make this DLC on PC… Cost is doesn’t matter, I’ll pay any money to play real end of epic game…

This is request from Playground, Akella and others fan community of Prince of Persia

Please

With respect
Alexander *Umbra* Tereznikov" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hi, everyone! I'm from Russia too and I'm from Akella forum, such as Umbra. Ubisoft, you are wrong! There are lots of fans in Russia, and we like playing on PC. I just want to tell, that all fans from Akella and Playground and many other communities want you to make the right decision. So, Umbra, +1000000

Also with respect,

Andorian.

[ErodeTheSoul]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by curlyhairedboy:
We want PoP DLC to come out for PC! We'll pay whatever it takes! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You should stop saying that, or stop speaking for everyone. If my money is not good enough for Ubisoft then I'm certainly not willing to pay "whatever it takes." Ignoring the PC community like this is not a good move, and if I'm going to be treated like a second-class gamer because I purchased the PC version, then Ubisoft can take their "business reasons" and shove them somewhere they might find VERY uncomfortable.

Much thanks for the removal of the DRM, but that doesn't give you the right to stab us in the back.

[Keksus]

I wonder what ubisoft has to do to make a conversion of the DLC for the pc. Let's see: The engine isready and is working fine on the pc. The DLC just adds a new level, new speechfiles, a new enemy, a new attack and a new power for elika...well...what must ubisoft do to make a conversion for the pc...an installer maybe? Well, to make an installer must cost millions of dollars...or not? Well, because if this costs millions of dollars i would understand you... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

[Madrakor]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Keksus:
I wonder what ubisoft has to do to make a conversion of the DLC for the pc. Let's see: The engine isready and is working fine on the pc. The DLC just adds a new level, new speechfiles, a new enemy, a new attack and a new power for elika...well...what must ubisoft do to make a conversion for the pc...an installer maybe? Well, to make an installer must cost millions of dollars...or not? Well, because if this costs millions of dollars i would understand you... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's exactly my thoughts too. Can't be that hard to convert the content for the PC when the engine is already working pretty good.

I don't think distribution channels are a problem either. As several people have stated before there's Steam, the Ubi store and many other ways to handle the DLC distribution.

That leaves me with the conclusion that someone high within Ubisoft said something along the lines of 'pc gamers aren't worth it, let's not give them the DLC'... at least it sounds like that from what we know so far.

Regards,
Madrakor

[a.Umbra]

And I don't understand this: for what make game on PC, PS3 and X-box360 and then make DLC ONLY on consoles? Well, then there were no reason to make PC-version... Now I have only one paece of story and what should I do? Watch gameplay and story on YouTube? Or buy console? Well, I bought PSP for PoP Revelations, I'm happy but second console... madness...

[yavanna_1986]

I don't feel like reading all posts here nor do I even feel like posting here anymore but all I can say is that it's pathetic how you slapped the PC users on the face with the fact that we will not get the DLC. You see guys, not everyone here can afford to buy a PS3 or a xbox 360 or whatever just to play one game, some of us invest into a computer and we'd like to play our games on it. If you would've made the new POP on consoles from start then whatever, your choice, but it's like you allowed everyone to play half of the game and then slapped 1/3 of the players in the face telling them they are not worthy of getting to play the second half because it is not profitable. So unless you guys make a game as good as SOT on PC with REAL puzzles, platforming, traps and fighting I won't bother anymore with any of your games.

[davephi11ips]

I joined this forum just to express my displeasure over the "no DLC for PC" issue. I would encourage Ubisoft to rethink their business decision, and realize that how they treat their PC customers may have ramifications beyond just the sales of POP.
Sincerely,
DrDave

[fahRENheit2006]

I voted "Don't care" because I don't care.

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fahRENheit2006:
I voted "Don't care" because I don't care. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just because of people like you we PC gamers won't play DLC. You are selfish, just think about yourself.

[cathy2008]

Oh come on,COME ON..what else do we have to say?Just about 10 people in this thread already said that they won't buy ubi games anymore...
i'm sick of it...i'm sick of you ubisoft...day by day you disappoint us even more.

[bitebug2003]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by laxsiber:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fahRENheit2006:
I voted "Don't care" because I don't care. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just because of people like you we PC gamers won't play DLC. You are selfish, just think about yourself. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Everyone is entitled to having their own opinion, and having an own opinion doesn't make them selfish.

I've already said my thoughts on the matter.

Look it up http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bitebug2003:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by laxsiber:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fahRENheit2006:
I voted "Don't care" because I don't care. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just because of people like you we PC gamers won't play DLC. You are selfish, just think about yourself. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Everyone is entitled to having their own opinion, and having an own opinion doesn't make them selfish.

I've already said my thoughts on the matter.

Look it up http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok. I am sorry than.

[Tahnit]

ubisoft you just lost a lot of customers today.

[JimWhitley]

Consider my balls kicked, Ubisoft.

[fahRENheit2006]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by laxsiber:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fahRENheit2006:
I voted "Don't care" because I don't care. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just because of people like you we PC gamers won't play DLC. You are selfish, just think about yourself. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

That's quite a leap. I was responding to the question posed by the poll, that's all.

Frankly, DLC in general is not a hot-button issue for me, I don't care about it. So its platform representation is a non-issue as well. If it's not included in the game, it's just trivial add-ons. And if it's as pivotal as to the plot as everyone claims it is, Ubi should be ashamed they're releasing it in DLC in general, not just because PC people can't play it.

[sanceman]

I voted yes, because by not releasing the DLC on PC Ubisoft makes a trick on PC costumers again. The DLC was mentioned to be in development very early (basically by the time of release) without any specific platform, so we could easily expect the DLC to be released on every one of them. This is just a cheap and wrong business decision again from the company. Someone should really consider firing those stupid guys who came up with the idea of losing PC costumers, because that's what it means if you translate the meaning of it. And here's the correct translation of the message behind the DLC not coming for PC: PC-gamers, go f*** yourselves! I'm really sorry that a company such as Ubisoft that became big because of the quality of its games can act this stupid and be this disrespectful to the gamers who made it successful.

Ren: I sense a bored flamer there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fahRENheit2006:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by laxsiber:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fahRENheit2006:
I voted "Don't care" because I don't care. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just because of people like you we PC gamers won't play DLC. You are selfish, just think about yourself. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

That's quite a leap. I was responding to the question posed by the poll, that's all.

Frankly, DLC in general is not a hot-button issue for me, I don't care about it. So its platform representation is a non-issue as well. If it's not included in the game, it's just trivial add-ons. And if it's as pivotal as to the plot as everyone claims it is, Ubi should be ashamed they're releasing it in DLC in general, not just because PC people can't play it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Question is
Prince of Persia Next-Gen DLC on PC? You sad that you don't care. And I thought that you don't about PC gamers. Sorry again.
PS: For me DLC is not just trivial add-ons because story will continue, and I sad this to many times. "I play games just because I like to hear good story (and to spend time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)". I know that you don't care of add-ons but maybe you care about story.

[bitebug2003]

Keep the posts clean please.

Thanks

[curlyhairedboy]

why we can't get any details on these "business reasons"?

it's been proven that making the DLC for PC would not take any more effort than the other versions - the PC version is one of the better-running PC games out there.

well, we're not going to quit. there may be "business reasons", but there aren't any GOOD reasons to keep the DLC from coming to the PC.

[MysterD]

I wonder how many of the PC gamers that might've missed-out on Prince of Persia PC, if there was a sudden DLC announced for PoP PC, they might actually decide to go buy the game finally and then go buy the PC b/c their platform of choice was being actually still supported.

Since this is NOT the case, I wonder how many PC gamers will wait until PoP PC is being sold at Bargain Bins for $5 b/c UbiSoft doesn't seem to want to support their game.

I'm guessing when Icewind Dale: Heart of Winter came out and gamers thought the expansion's campaign was too short, word got around, and nobody bought it -- suddenly, Black Isle came out to say that some DLC was announced to add more content, people rejoiced and bought the expansion anyways. Eventually Icewind Dale: Heart of Winter - Trials of The Luremaster DLC was eventually released, Icewind Dale gamers decided, "I guess it's time to get Heart of Winter expansion now."

[Daroth_343]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fahRENheit2006:
If it's not included in the game, it's just trivial add-ons. And if it's as pivotal as to the plot as everyone claims it is, Ubi should be ashamed they're releasing it in DLC in general, not just because PC people can't play it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
How could it be trivial when it continues the main storyline after the cliffhanger ending of the original game? I don't have any problem with DLC that actually continues the game instead of adding side content that doesn't really add anything to the original storyline, as long as you give the fans a chance to play it.

You know what I really find pathetic about Ubisoft's "business reasons"? Sega's Valkyria Chronicles sold about 250.000 copies worlwide, with most of the sales coming from Japan (the new PoP sold 2.2 million). What I find amazing is that Sega, despite the horrible sales for a game that got higher review scores (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/valkyriachronicles) than the new PoP, is still going to release the DLC that was released in Japan over here. They could have easily canceled it for "business reasons" but they didn't, and I know that a lot of the people that bought the game will be buying the DLC as well. I seriously regret buying PoP and not using that money to buy a second copy of VC.

[curlyhairedboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MysterD:
I wonder how many of the PC gamers that might've missed-out on Prince of Persia PC, if there was a sudden DLC announced for PoP PC, they might actually decide to go buy the game finally and then go buy the PC b/c their platform of choice was being actually still supported.

Since this is NOT the case, I wonder how many PC gamers will wait until PoP PC is being sold at Bargain Bins for $5 b/c UbiSoft doesn't seem to want to support their game.

I'm guessing when Icewind Dale: Heart of Winter came out and gamers thought the expansion's campaign was too short, word got around, and nobody bought it -- suddenly, Black Isle came out to say that some DLC was announced to add more content, people rejoiced and bought the expansion anyways. Eventually Icewind Dale: Heart of Winter - Trials of The Luremaster DLC was eventually released, Icewind Dale gamers decided, "I guess it's time to get Heart of Winter expansion now." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>if that's their strategy, then fine. but they don't have to keep the fans in an agitated state - what harm does it do to simply state "DLC for PC will be delayed 2 months" or whatever?

[MysterD]

I'd have no problem if UbiSoft came out and said, "After we're done releasing all of the DLC content on the console versions, we'll port all of the DLC to the PC and sell it as an expansion pack on disc as some sort of PoP: DLC Collection Expansion Pack box at retail stores."

If they did, you can count me in most definitely.

I loved PoP on my PC -- and would love to see any DLC, expansions, sequels, or anything else come to my platform of choice.

[MysterD]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">if that's their strategy, then fine. but they don't have to keep the fans in an agitated state - what harm does it do to simply state "DLC for PC will be delayed 2 months" or whatever? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Maybe they are afraid it'll sell LESS DLC over the X360 and/or PS3 if they suddenly announce PC DLC???

Who knows...

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">We want PoP DLC to come out for PC! If not now, then sometime in the future! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Agreed.

I have no problem with games being made for the console first and then get a PC port sometime later -- i.e. Fable, Gears Of Wars 1, Mass Effect. I'd rather all versions come out all come out at the same time, but whatever -- as long as we will get it on the PC, we will get it on the PC.

[pop_sot]

Expansion pack isnt a bad option...

[Stevedroid]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by curlyhairedboy:

it's been proven that making the DLC for PC would not take any more effort than the other versions - the PC version is one of the better-running PC games out there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Whoa, hold on sec, you can't say "it's been proven" unless you're a developer for the game. We don't have a conclusive idea of the effort that would be involved in making the DLC compatible with the PC version. I don't think it'd be difficult either, but let's be careful not to state assumptions as facts.

In any case, I don't think it be difficult to develop either - I think the problem is delivering it. On the consoles there's established portals for selling downloadable content, namely Live and PSN. Presumably Ubisoft just delivers the download to Microsoft or Sony and they take of the rest.

The PC doesn't have a universal portal like that. It would be prohibitively expensive for Ubisoft to setup their own billing and delivery portal. That leaves Games For Windows Live and Steam. Well PoP isn't a GFWL game, and making it one means all new development to integrate it with the GFWL interface as well as hashing out a new licensing deal with Microsoft - that's not gonna happen either. That leaves Steam, which I think would be a perfect solution.

The question is whether the appropriate higher ups at Ubisoft have considered using Steam to deliver the DLC.

Well, are you listening Ubisoft? <span class="ev_code_RED"> Was Steam considered as a method to deliver the DLC?</span>
I'm sure they'd be more than glad to work with you.

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pop_sot:
Expansion pack isnt a bad option... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It isn't bad, but the best option is just next sequel nothing else. No DLC no Expansion just next sequel.

[laxsiber]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Stevedroid:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by curlyhairedboy:

it's been proven that making the DLC for PC would not take any more effort than the other versions - the PC version is one of the better-running PC games out there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Whoa, hold on sec, you can't say "it's been proven" unless you're a developer for the game. We don't have a conclusive idea of the effort that would be involved in making the DLC compatible with the PC version. I don't think it'd be difficult either, but let's be careful not to state assumptions as facts.

In any case, I don't think it be difficult to develop either - I think the problem is delivering it. On the consoles there's established portals for selling downloadable content, namely Live and PSN. Presumably Ubisoft just delivers the download to Microsoft or Sony and they take of the rest.

The PC doesn't have a universal portal like that. It would be prohibitively expensive for Ubisoft to setup their own billing and delivery portal. That leaves Games For Windows Live and Steam. Well PoP isn't a GFWL game, and making it one means all new development to integrate it with the GFWL interface as well as hashing out a new licensing deal with Microsoft - that's not gonna happen either. That leaves Steam, which I think would be a perfect solution.

The question is whether the appropriate higher ups at Ubisoft have considered using Steam to deliver the DLC.

Well, are you listening Ubisoft? <span class="ev_code_RED"> Was Steam considered as a method to deliver the DLC?</span>
I'm sure they'd be more than glad to work with you. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hope that DLC will be deliver using Steam, but like I sad the best option is just next sequel nothing else. No DLC no Expansion just next sequel.

[Brisebarre]

Woaw..I never thought I would post here ( I have never used my account), but this new is such unfair for the PC community, and I don't think I am going too far when I said that all communities are " disappointed", and, well, shocked...

I mean, what is the problem, Ubisoft has the distribution platform with Steam or the Ubistore, they have the content itself..
What are the difficulties? What Are Those "Business Decisions" that make differences between a firm like EA ( for example) which release DLC for PC and Ubisoft?

By this action , you will lose a lot of fans! I have bought and played all the Pop since the SoT. Personely I loved Pop 08, I found the end pretty "open" to any sequel, and then I heard that the DLC you promised will be only for PS3 and Xbox?! for "business reasons?!

No further explanations begin to make me feel that Ubi just now don't care anymore of the PC players...
I hope to see any information like " DLC finally later on PC", or the same thing ..but just hope... ( and sorry, you have probably guessed, English is not my first language, sorry for the mistakes)

[McCoy17]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by laxsiber:
It isn't bad, but the best option is just next sequel nothing else. No DLC no Expansion just next sequel. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Er... is it just me or does it seem that you have a different opinion in every other posting, but are really busy at quoting other people's opinions a lot? And answering their questions to Ubisoft with your "facts"?

Is everyone gone a little bonkers around here?
This thread could use some cleanup, because none of the responsible people will want to sift through all THAT and we'll never get a rational statement.

Make your statement, guys and stay with it and tell them you're not going to be their customer anymore because they violated your trust and support of the company. And spread the news.

[Quijote3000]

Ok, I signed up in the forums just to write this (Ubisoft, we, PC fans, can be pasionate about this) I haven't bought the last Prince of Persia yet. I was busy playing the PC version of Fallout 3, and I was planning on buying it soon.
So, those were my 49.55€ that were going to you. However, right now, I am NOT going to buy the game. Seriously, think about long-term consequences. It's money that people won't pay From now on for your game. It can mean a lot of angry fans, that maybe won't buy your next game. It can't be that hard with steam or others online places to make sure you got profits.

[pop_sot]

I appreciate this that new people are coming and posting their opinions regarding this concern. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Yama-B]

Hey, everyone. Just posting to update you on some answers I got from Furyo at the Steam forums, he is a level designer that worked on the game.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Indeed, I don't know why they won't do it. Trust me I pushed. No go. Obviously I'll never get to the bottom of this. It's my gut instinct that yes it would be relatively easy to make the DLC work on the PC. I know exactly how long it took to make the original game run on a PC, so there's a safe assumption it would be about the same for the DLC.

As far as sales are concerned, you couldn't be more wrong Zomby. PC sales are absolutely crap compared to consoles, and it's not PoP related, it's across all multiplatform games.

Any multiplatform game on a console will outsell their PC counterpart by a ratio of 10 to 20 for 1 at least. If you look at PC sales charts, it's trusted by PC only games, and for the last 5 years running at least has only been about World of Warcraft and Sims games. You may get a break for a single month in the top 20 if you're lucky.

These figures don't tally steam sales, but the best sellers on Steam are also almost always Valve games. PoP figured in the #9 slot during its first week. Was never seen again.

I would really venture that out of the 2.2 million copies sold, .2 million may be PC sales. And even that would be a resounding success.

So in the end, the cost of porting the content over to the PC may be too high to justify. It'll be interesting to see how many console DLC copies are sold, so we can have an idea of the attachment rate per original copy sold. My bet is 1/10 is a great result already. So with these wild guestimates, your starting pool for justifying a PC DLC is around 20,000.

And that's notwithstanding the portion of players who bought the game in retail, and don't use Steam. How do these guys get the DLC? There is a reason many PC DLCs for other games (Mass effect comes to mind) were free. Finding a way to charge the customer may actually already cost you more than is worth </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">And yes Yama-B, I understand that this DLC, by continuing the original storyline, sets a dangerous precedent. No other DLC that I know of has done this in the past. It was always a sub-branch, with no relation whatsoever.

If finding out the rest of the story is all you care about, there will certainly be other ways to find out. Youtube being one for sure. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[phiont]

A few PC-gamers have responded to this by expressing greater interest in buying a console. Sounds good for the console mearchants, but what would UbiSoft get out of that.

Perhaps this decision is actually being sponsored by UbiSoft's partners at Sony and Microsoft. If that's the case then it may just be a temporary situation that will be reversed after they've managed to squeeze a few more console sales out of the DLC. But, only time will tell if those console makers are paying UbiSoft enough to compensate for all this bad PR.

[ghost_zero5]

I don't know those business reasons but one thing should be certain: It very likely wouldn't have been a problem if they said before the release of PoP 2008 that there won't be DLC for it and especially also mentioned that the DLC will continue the main story line (at the end of the game).
That way we would at least have known what we dealt with and many would probably not even have bought the game then or bought a console version.
But now it was this way: It had no DRM, in fact no copy protection at all and though I would have bought the game anyway, I might not have done it for the PC but as I wanted to support that decision I bought the PC version and now... Well I think everyone knows what I am thinking.

Furthermore, I think this "business reasons" haven't been thought well about because if this news spreads and it sure will, many gamers will think twice before buying any game for you again and NOT JUST PC gamers but also console gamers. I mean: Why should I buy a game if I am not sure that you will give me every important part of it, after all you could also decide the same for e.g. the PS3-Version later. Sorry but for business reasons we decided to skip the PS3-Version and just release the XBox360-Version. This could as well happen.
And it also won't be just for PoP but for all your upcoming games. I myself was interested in the PoP sequel, I am Alive and maybe Assassins Creed 2 (depending on the point that you might have changed certain things - like the monotony) but now I am not feeling like buying any of those games anymore and not just for the PC anymore but in general (I would have the possibility to buy them for consoles though).

Furthermore, it actually seems like we (the PC gamers) get a half finished game. Actually releasing DLC which continues the main story after the game is in fact a bit strange, as it means the game itself wasn't finished but I could have even lived with that, even if it costed money and wouldn't be free but that way...

If it was a side story it would be no problem (at least if it was clear to not get release on the PC beforehand but probably even if it wouldn't have known, as it is just some side story), even if it was a side story after the main part of the game but if it is crucial to the main plot like here, it is really stupid to don't give it all gamers or actually to make it a DLC at all. I mean this is a dangerous turn, after all it seems like now companies may start to sell half finished games and deliver the rest of it through DLCs (maybe more then one and charge money for every single one) or even other full games (actually I think StarCraft II also points to that direction).

[pop_sot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Yama-B:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">And yes Yama-B, I understand that this DLC, by continuing the original storyline, sets a dangerous precedent. No other DLC that I know of has done this in the past. It was always a sub-branch, with no relation whatsoever.

If finding out the rest of the story is all you care about, there will certainly be other ways to find out. Youtube being one for sure. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ofcourse eventually we will get to know what happened Storyline wise through youtube or other sources. But its sad that it wont fullfill our hunger for the Game. Our Playing experience matters the most for us. That we actually play these 3 hours of gameplay, Experience the Story line and further character development, especially the Prince who drastically changed his behaviour at the climax. If the Full-Fledge Sequal starts where the DLC Story ended, that would really be a confusion for PC Players no matter the stuff is available on youtube.

[Yama-B]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pop_sot:
Ofcourse eventually we will get to know what happened Storyline wise through youtube or other sources. But its sad that it wont fullfill our hunger for the Game. Our Playing experience matters the most for us. That we actually play these 3 hours of gameplay, Experience the Story line and furtther character development. If the Full-Fledge Sequal starts where the DLC Story ended, that would really be a confusion for PC Players no matter the stuff is available on youtube. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It seems that the people involved in the creation of the game understand our concern, as Furyo also said on the Steam forums: "I am also disappointed my own work won't see the light of day on the PC, I was awaiting to see your comments on it, because we really took it to heart, and learned from the criticisms we received."

The problem is with the higher ups in the Ubisoft chain.

[pop_sot]

Quote from Ubi Forum Manager Bukowski113

"Rest assured I'm reading all of your feedback and it will ALL be in my report this week.

Thanks."

[curlyhairedboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pop_sot:
Quote from Ubi Forum Manager Bukowski113

"Rest assured I'm reading all of your feedback and it will ALL be in my report this week.

Thanks." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>well, that's some good news. hopefully the higher-ups will take note.

[Tiverando]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by phiont:
A few PC-gamers have responded to this by expressing greater interest in buying a console. Sounds good for the console mearchants, but what would UbiSoft get out of that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I bought the PC version of PoP2008, yet I own both a PS3 and an Xbox 360. If Ubisoft goes through with this decision I will make sure all my future purchases of Ubisoft games are either through the used market or not at all.

Companies keep spouting this crap about PC gaming dying, if it is dying it's because they're killing it off on purpose. Claims about these low sales numbers I'd really like to see hard data on. Just looking into things, Bioshock was released simultaneously on the PC and consoles, sales numbers mentioned in media for it cover 2.2 million sales as of June 4th 2008, with over a million of those being on the PC. I understand that being an FPS it has more appeal to PC gamers, but they also marketed Bioshock more for the PC and have a history of not screwing over their PC users.

Ubisoft really needs to think about the long term more often. Continually screwing over PC users is part of the reason their PC ports tend to get fewer sales. For some of us this leads to fewer Ubisoft purchases period, not just on the PC. I understand decisions must be made of whether development etc. is profitable, but when determining that a lot more factors have to be accounted then purely "we'll get X number of sales for this product in Y number of months, for developer cost Z".

[oalexis]

This is the first game I've ever bought from Ubisoft and I'm QUITE dissapointed that there will be no DLC for PC. I was considering buying farcry 2 but, but now i'm leaning more towards Crysis Warhead or Left4dead. Its a shame because I really enjoyed this game. The visual style was amazing and the story was compelling... too bad I won't see the ending

[phiont]

One of my problems with what Furyo (UbiSoft level designer) wrote is that his Console vs PC sales ratios of between 10 and 20 to 1 do not tally steam sales. In fact, they don't tally any digital distribution. I recently read that digital sales now account for ~80% of PC sales. If true then Furyo's Console vs PC ratios should actually be between 2 and 4 to 1. In this case PoP would have sold ~500k - 700k PC units instead of Furyo's estimate of just 200k.

Of course, the folks at UbiSoft who made this decision know exactly how many PC units they sold, so there's probably much more to all this than just sales figures.

[Tahnit]

None of this matters. We were promised DLC before the game came out on pc!

[Keksus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pop_sot:
I appreciate this that new people are coming and posting their opinions regarding this concern. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I approve of this post. Maybe so Ubisoft see's how impotant the DLC is for the people who bought the game for the pc.

[corvus5]

Hey there everybody, I am new here, I registered a few minutes ago, just so I could voice my disappointment at Ubisoft's decision to not release the DLC for PC. I have been a huge fan of the Prince of Persia series since the original and I faithfully purchase and enjoyed all installments of the Sands of Time Trilogy. The new Prince of Persia game was in fact going to be my next game purchase. However after receiving this news I will no longer be purchasing the pc game. I refuse to spend money on an incomplete product. Furthermore I will not be buying the xbox 360 version (I own an xbox) on principle. Furthermore I think I will refrain from giving anymore of my money to a company that releases an incomplete game, promises to complete the said game at a later point and then reneges on that promise. Congratulations Ubisoft you have lost a customer, for "business reasons" I chose not to give you my business.

p.s: oh and to the game industry in general, if you want to know why game piracy on the pc is getting worse...there is your answer!

p.p.s: I am pretty sure this violates a false advertising standard.

[Tahnit]

ubisoft. I guarantee if you do not release DLC for PC then your reputation will be ruined completely. I will make sure of it by spreading the news that you have refused to release DLC even though fans want it.

I will do whatever i can to ruin your reputation in the gamers eyes. If you think pc gamers are a small group, well your about to find out the truth.

[Keksus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I will do whatever i can to ruin your reputation in the gamers eyes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think you don't have to do something. It looks like ubisoft can do all this by themself really great. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

[pop_sot]

I dont think that such a big and popular company can accept this negative publicity. I am still hopeful. Maybe after 6 months lets see

[Tahnit]

Another statement from ubirazz would be much appreciated.

Hell i dont care if i have to wait awhile. I just want the DLC eventually!

[pop_sot]

Well a Forum Manager has posted a comment if you look at the previous page that he's reading the complete feedback. So There is a hope

[karqu1v]

hi, i'm from spain so sorry my bad english.

I am a big fan of price of persia, i love the sands saga, i have it original and I hoped the last prince game would be the beginnig of another "must buy" trilogy. I liked the game. Yes, its too casual but the story it's good and has many posibilities for the sequels, i thought.

Now i know i bought an incomplete game, the only reason i can't see the originally planned ending it,s because i,m a pc player.

"business reasons"? what's that? It sounds to me like "f**k you".

You're not helping the pc games market Ubisoft, you're killing it faster.

I want the dlc on pc.

[Belzenub]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UbiRazz:
Sort of an unfair poll to prove a point really - if you're on this forum then you're likely a PoP fan, you clearly have a PC and you probably played PoP on PC, so therefore it's very likely you'll want the DLC. Therefore the number of 'no's should be 0.

Unfortunately for business reasons we won't be seeing any PoP DLC appear. Sorry guys! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I really hate you...

Well, let me tell you something Ubisoft.
This move will backlash in some way in your face.

First you make a really nice move by removing the DRM on the PC game. Something that hasnt happened in a long time.

You make the PC gaming community happy.

Then you give the PC gaming community a BIG FFING SLAP IN THE FACE by not releasing the DLC on our platform.

WTF?

This is really ugly from a company like you.
Bad "business reasons" if you ask me.
Unless your company will stop making games for PC totally of course. Then it makes sense why you turn your back on us.

[FironDraak]

So, my reward for buying the game on the PC is no DLC?
"Business reasons" is a pretty pathetic excuse for not releasing it. You complain about the PC market being small, but this isn't helping.
And it looks like your own sales stats don't include digital purchases, which seem to be quickly overtaking retail for the PC. Hell, I bought the game on Steam.

If you actually cared about the customers who bought the game and want them to continue being customers in the future, you'd release the DLC for the PC. It can be a month late, but still release it.

[BLooDLineS666]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FironDraak:

If you actually cared about the customers who bought the game and want them to continue being customers in the future, you'd release the DLC for the PC. It can be a month late, but still release it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No i dont think ubi cares about us (pc gamers). Now, i want to say something. About being no alternative ending of PoP08, ubi had explained that "we made this game with only one ending. because we dont want to mix our fans' heads." ...

Now we can see how thoughtful company have we got.Well, ubi had really thought about us , hadnt it?


second, even if ubi releases the DLC for pc later or now, it's truth that ubi has lost our trusts and our money!!!

[pop_sot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BLooDLineS666:
second, even if ubi releases the DLC for pc later or now, it's truth that ubi has lost our trusts and our money!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nah Man, It would be very nice of Ubisoft if they reconsider the decision and release DLC on the PC. I think if they do so we should welcome them with open arms. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[saqib_sweet2009]

well simply i dont care..........first of all its not game which deserves a title of prince of persia......its story is not about prince or persia and not even close to the arabian night story ... and i was expecting that ubisoft will present a story of a prince in this DLC but they lost the opportunity .....i dont want this story or this prince more... a want a new story with a arabic touch ... which was promised by ubisoft.. which they r not able or qualified to do......so simply i m not interested in buying DLC and upcoming sequels....

[saqib_sweet2009]

this game should be titled as a princess of persia.......
what i think ubisoft will release DLC on pc but later after releasing on XBOX and PS3....they r just creating hype for PC gamers by saying that its a business decision ... they r not releasing on pc because of piracy stuff... they will release after about 5 to 6 months ... and then they will say that we reconsidered and we always take care of our fans ......these all r business and marketing tactics...they know that if they will carry forward the story in DLC and dont release it in PC version than no will buy the next sequel..........they r simply demarketing the next sequel for pc gamers by making this decision of not releasing DLC on PC if they do it so......

[Keksus]

I have an idea, why ubisoft is saying "No DLC for PC." As we know from other Ubisoft games, Ubisoft has something personal against videogame piracy. So i think they say now, that the DLC isn't coming for the PC, so we players and the people who pirate games say to themself:: "Well, if they will never release it for pc i have to buy the dlc for my console, because there isn't any other way." If ubisoft would say "In 6 months we will release the dlc for the pc." maybe some software pirates would say: "Well, i can wait and download it for free later."

At least this would explain all of this for me. Because this would be buisness reason and it would be clear why they can't say anything about this.

Sure: They scare many customers right now, but a lot of them would be happy again, after they released the dlc for the pc.

[FireEmpress]

Quick, before wikipolice comes!! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_of_persia_2008#Development)

Ok, which one of you did it?! http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1579/reporterwo9.gif

[Murmelwerfer]

@Keksus

I read your sources that a level designer said, that there were be only 200000 sold for pc.

Ubisoft understand this message and will not produce a pc version for the next pop. The Dlc will be the start for : Nobody buys PoP for Pc, so acclimatize on this situaion. PoP continue his way on the console.

@fireempress

lol....but its correct

[Tonka_1]

Why we don't receive the same DLC as the consoles users?

I bought the prince of persia pack on Steam, why the new content is not distribuited for there?

I know we are a little group of people, that we are loyal to the serie and play http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gif Prince of Persia in the Pc, but if it content arrives to the pc, I will buy that.

Come on, UBI, give us the DLC, please... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

[KZarr]

UBI

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Keksus:
Ubisoft is just great. they wanted to sell pop 3 millionen times. They only managed it to sell 2,2 millionen copies. great idea to scare the customers away. Would the DLC coming for pc many pc gamers may have bought the game to the release of the dlc. But instead it seems they are planning to sell far less copies from the sequel.

I already start to make a petition. Just give me some time, i will post it here whhen it's online. I know it might do nothing, but at least it doesn't cost anything to make it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Like i said before, PC gamers only make up 8% of all the sales, so they can still achieve the 3 mil with ease.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Keksus:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ubi.Vigil:
Guys, we realise that PC PoP players like yourselves will be frustrated and disappointed by this news. As long as it's constructive you're welcome to voice an opinion on that here, however do please ensure you keep all comments civil in nature. We'll be reading the threads here as ever and passing on feedback. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think all of us have just one question: Why?
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Even tough it doesn't affect me, I'd also like to know why.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SinoK:
There's more PC players than console gamers, remember.


But think for a second...

How many copies PoP have sold on PC? 150k?
And how many PC players would like to pay for DLC? Maybe 20k?
Soooo... why Ubi don't want to earn 200.000$? (20.000*10$)
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sadly the majority of these gamers pirate everything. And they would pirate the DLC too.







<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SinoK:
People are very outraged.

http://kotaku.com/5144986/ther...ince-of-persia-on-pc (http://kotaku.com/5144986/there-will-be-no-dlc-for-prince-of-persia-on-pc) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It doesn't matter how many links anyone posts. The fact still is that its mostly PC gamers commenting/blogging, so naturally it will be negative. Whether this was really THAT bad of a decision will be known once its released for a month or so.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mboltevski:
Maybe they are just teasing us.And then they will say-we were only kidding.You didnt understood the joke?
But if they're not kidding-I'll draw the line.
PS-even consoles are pirated or maybe Ubi is from Mars? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Nowhere near PC games

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BLooDLineS666:
no,i am not happy. i am a pc gamer. and this is i wanted to explain with saying heehhhh:
i'm sick of ubisoft's these all bull****s! How do you think that i am happy? As you see, you have misunderstood me.Now please get off the internet. unsympathetic people and the ones who heve lacking in understanding arent allowed here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
*cough*

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by a.Umbra:
I live in Russia, in my country PC – is the main platform of game playing, there are a hundreds of thousand (or millions) fans of Prince of Persia series and they want to see REAL end of this new masterpiece game! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Where were the "millions" of fans when the game hit the market. Considering it has sold 2.2 million total and more than half of it on consoles.



<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by laxsiber:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fahRENheit2006:
I voted "Don't care" because I don't care. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just because of people like you we PC gamers won't play DLC. You are selfish, just think about yourself. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



O Yeah, right. He totally convinced stock holders and managers to not release DLC on PC by voting "Don't care".




I hope PC-gamers will get it anyway, but I wouldn't be surprised if not. Steam is also a very good option.

[Keksus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Murmelwerfer:
@Keksus

I read your sources that a level designer said, that there were be only 200000 sold for pc. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He hasn't say facts about how many copies were sold. He just conjectured about this and he also said, that this is already really good for a pc game.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KZarr:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SinoK:
People are very outraged.

http://kotaku.com/5144986/ther...ince-of-persia-on-pc (http://kotaku.com/5144986/there-will-be-no-dlc-for-prince-of-persia-on-pc) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It doesn't matter how many links anyone posts. The fact still is that its mostly PC gamers commenting/blogging, so naturally it will be negative. Whether this was really THAT bad of a decision will be known once its released for a month or so. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I got it! Following the logic of UbiRazz all PC Gamers should stop blogging and saying something about this immediatly. So the only blogs and posts left are from the console gamers, and it's clear that they want the DLC for consoles. So then their opinion about this is meaningless and Ubi will not release the DLC on any plattform.

As we know: Ubisoft listens to it's customers and i haven't heard any console gamer who says "I want the DLC." because no one of them says anything they get the DLC. We should try this too. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Mh...i think i can't really understand his logic. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

[wesou]

I made account on this forum only to comment in this topic.
I bought new PoP on PC and I think it's genious game especially because of ending. When I heard about the DLC coming which will continue story I was extremely happy. But the I saw news about not coming it on PC. At this time I am feeling like someone worser than console gamer. Why am I denied the possibility to play this real ending? For some bussines reason? It is outrageus. I am lost for words to express my disapoiment with firm that I considered for one of the best in market

[BLooDLineS666]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pop_sot:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BLooDLineS666:
second, even if ubi releases the DLC for pc later or now, it's truth that ubi has lost our trusts and our money!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nah Man, It would be very nice of Ubisoft if they reconsider the decision and release DLC on the PC. I think if they do so we should welcome them with open arms. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

no, no you've misunderstood me, friend http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
i wanted to say that ubi has lost almost all of our trusts. And, after releasing the dlc for pc, it will be difficult for ubi to earn our trusts again... i wanted to explain this http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[KZarr]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Keksus:
As we know: Ubisoft listens to it's customers and i haven't heard any console gamer who says "I want the DLC." because no one of them says anything they get the DLC. We should try this too. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Mh...i think i can't really understand his logic. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/nerwan/lolcat_what.jpg

[pop_sot]

Kzarr and Keksus, I request you not start an argument please. Everyone is entitle to his/her view. Quoting Opinions in this way and start a never-ending unproductive argument isnt a good thing.

Please refrain from it

[KZarr]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pop_sot:
Kzarr and Keksus, I request you not start an argument please. Everyone is entitle to his/her view. Quoting Opinions in this way and start a never-ending unproductive argument isnt a good thing.

Please refrain from it </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm not even argueing, i'm triyng to understand his logic.

[LordJuanlo]

Why is so important this DLC?. Because this is the first time an optional DLC continues the story of the game, instead of telling an alternate / paralel story. No DLC means you don't know what really happens in the end. Not offering this DLC to a part of the gaming community that has paid for the game is discriminatory, PC users are customers too and have the same right than console users to watch the true end of the story.

Otherwise it would (will?) be like playing Two Thrones without having seen the alternate end of Warrior Within.

Please Ubisoft reconsider your decision

[darkprince619]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ubi.Vigil:
Guys, we realise that PC PoP players like yourselves will be frustrated and disappointed by this news. As long as it's constructive you're welcome to voice an opinion on that here, however do please ensure you keep all comments civil in nature. We'll be reading the threads here as ever and passing on feedback. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

if you realise you must act upon it & you must see that PC PoP players are equally important as Xbox 360 and PS3.You cant stop the game for pc it has A SENSELESS meaning.then. how'll understand whats next? by watching on Youtube

Screw you ubisoft.

[KZarr]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by darkprince619:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ubi.Vigil:
Guys, we realise that PC PoP players like yourselves will be frustrated and disappointed by this news. As long as it's constructive you're welcome to voice an opinion on that here, however do please ensure you keep all comments civil in nature. We'll be reading the threads here as ever and passing on feedback. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

if you realise you must act upon it & you must see that PC PoP players are equally important as Xbox 360 and PS3.You cant stop the game for pc it has A SENSELESS meaning.then. how'll understand whats next? by watching on Youtube

**** you ubisoft. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good job, now the'll listen to you for sure http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

[BLooDLineS666]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LordJuanlo:

Otherwise it would (will?) be like playing Two Thrones without having seen the alternate end of Warrior Within.

Please Ubisoft reconsider your decision </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, i certainly agree with you. As i said.. On ubi's explanation, they said that the game consists of only one ending because of not wanting to mix fans' heads. We loved that idea, but now ubisoft offers to our head to mix!!! I just cant understand...

[alexyu1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Screw you ubisoft. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

+1

[cathy2008]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by alexyu1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Screw you ubisoft. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

+1 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

+2

[curlyhairedboy]

y'know, i'm sure the developers want the PC gaming community to have it. the DLC is a continuation of their work - they want the fans to experience it. i just don't see why for "business reasons" it's so important to deny PC gamers the extra content.

[Beathazard]

Right. This does feel like a horse kicking us in the crotch, doesn't it ? Many gamers actually care for the story of the game, how it will end and what happens to the characters. I'm one of them. And now you offer downloadable content that will reveal just that. More in-depths that what we saw in the original game, but only to console gamers ? The more active community and fans are PC gamers. If anything, it should be there that the DLC is offered first. Now I wouldn't give a damn if it was to be released weeks or months later. As long as we have it. But just downright cancelling it ? I have to say ... what the hell?!

As for the "business reasons", I'm not entirely sure I can believe that. Ubisoft is one of the most succesful company in the gaming industry - and other companies don't have trouble releasing contents for both the consoles and the PC. I sincerly hope you change your minds and start developping something for the PC version as well.

If not, though, then I won't see myself wasting money on any other Ubisoft games if the same thing is going to happen again.

[phiont]

To all the newcomers (like me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif);

Please warn UbiSoft's PC customers at other internet forums discussing their upcoming multiplatform releases that they may not receive access to all the game content being made available to console customers.

I recommend leaving comments at places like Steam, direct2drive, Amazon and other online retailers.

I also recommend posting warnings where PC customers are discussing other upcoming multiplatform UbiSoft games such as:

- Avatar
- Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood
- I Am Alive
- Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X.
- World in Conflict: Soviet Assault
- Assassin's Creed 2

UbiSoft's PC customers need to understand what they may or may not be getting for their money, ahead of time. It's only fair.