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[unsobill]

http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=107406

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GJ ON DELAY WITH FOW RELEASE UBI!!! MAYBE ITS TIME TO HIGHER THAT PRICE TAG AND MAKE SOME GREEN FOR BESTWAY WHILE DEPRESSED COH KIDS WILL RUN TO BUY FOW COPY !!!
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[shadowcreap2006]

lol that nothin this morning there were no less than 10 anti relic threats i seen yet they were quickly got rid off of course:P

i was going to buy COH but from wht i hear it only has a small campain (only allies) and only a few new maps. woopie doo da...

looks like il get FOW maybe,
still. hype sells though sinse i seen like 100s of stupid tv adds for COH, example: after history channel world war 2 program you see a stupid coh advert quote" the most realistic combact experience to date" wow they love to lie dont they sinse coh is not very ralistic but just a fun game so why do they advatise it after REAL world war 2 FACTUAL programs ??

better not rant to much, just get anoyed when, when ppl complain about COH saying it not supposed to be realistic yet they stil advatise it to be just that and where they advatise it on is after REAL life world war 2 programs, like relic has no respect for the ppl who actualy fought in the REAL war not some stupid i can click my mouse faster than you world.

sad how develepors exploit the market.

[dbircsak]

Wow, I had no idea all units were included in the CoH demo already (and that the developer even said it??)! That's depressing!

[Apoly5]

I wouldnt call that a demo then would u?

[B1gGuN]

The lack of any sides except the US and Germans is also quite annoying. It's a fantastic game, but the lack of units and sides to play makes me wonder why the reviews have been so good. Like over 90% for all the reviews so far.

[MadBadVlad]

For me the whole concept of being the Americans AGAIN and going in on D-Day AGAIN to win the war alone AGAIN was a complete turn off from the start. Now finding out that they had dished out all the units in the game in the demo is just the icing on the cake. It might look pretty, but in terms of gameplay, content and strategy I just think FoW is way ahead, plus I always like playing the Russians http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[shadowcreap2006]

i realy like coh and how relic has used the DOW style but like you guy said having ANOTHER american saving the war all over again and only germans as the "big bad wolf" is a turn off, but not having much else ie russia britian ect its pretty bad(i know the developers said tht al units be in beta+ demo) but that a big mistake i think snse now evreyone knows wht units like and how pretty bad the reliasm is ie shermans overpowered the BAR now the ultimate infi weapon(it utterly kills anynits in game)which is wied sinse the MP44 was the first assulat rifel at the time and was the one of the best weaponds around even better than the bar.

anyway like the idea behind COH but atm its a bit tooo fictional and limited, maybe once the exspansion comes out if theres one(probaly wil be sinse this the means of which relic makes money, DOW,WA,DC ect ectso probaly be like another 3 more COHs to come lol) wait for the all inclusive package maybe :P

[Luckylewis]

Shadow i agree with you all the way, and Coh is basically just a Mod for DOW. they took years making Fow, but with Coh how long did it take? 5 months or so. its just dow with a world war 2 setting.

[Apoly5]

Wow thats one hell of alot programming heh lots of code

[thehuggster]

i dont see what the fuss is about with it. i played both demo levels and skirmish and its just "meh". its just a c&c clone but you can hide in buildings and take cover etc. Resource points are just like tiberium fields. no matter how much you wrap it up its no more innovative than all the other RTS clones. Also its blatantly based its ideas on showw2 / fow. also whats with the remote bomb? dont recall seeing those in saving private ryan. also the tanks dont look right somehow. and you cant drive through buildings. they should have done it like rome: total war etc. then it would have been better. (ie moving forces on map, encounter other units and fight small scale battle etc.). anyway 2 days to fow ......

[unsobill]

SPEAKING OF COH - its already in the FRY'S ELECTRONICS store and many other major centers ... guess the price ??? $39.99 ROFL maybe we do the difference on the forums after all !!!

[dbircsak]

Did you see FoW at Frys?

[Apoly5]

Whens it actualy gonna be in stores? friday or tomorrow?

[TheCajman]

Originally posted by unsobill:
SPEAKING OF COH - its already in the FRY'S ELECTRONICS store and many other major centers ... guess the price ??? $39.99 ROFL maybe we do the difference on the forums after all !!!

It seems to be $49.99 at EBgames and everywhere else...

[jocheen2006]

Originally posted by Luckylewis:
Shadow i agree with you all the way, and Coh is basically just a Mod for DOW. they took years making Fow, but with Coh how long did it take? 5 months or so. its just dow with a world war 2 setting.

before you post think a bit more about what you gonna to post dude lol

coh use a new coded engine from relic made it from scratch so no mod for dow and no 5 months to create it.

now to fow what engine does it use ?? right the soldiers engine so what do you think took longer to develop ?

first fow use just a modifi soldiers engine with some goodies like bump,spec etc and some tweaking on the render code etc..

Coh features also bump,spec +normal mapping hdri Lighting very complex unit animations about 2000 animations per unit.

so what we learn is if Coh would just have a improvment direct control and squad control like fow, and the damage system style from soldiers for the vehicle it would be perfect http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

did i forgot something ?

[Apoly5]

there just exagerating how fast it popped up and what its basicly like to them

[unsobill]

2jecheen2006


just so u know - COH engine is actually NOT havok engine - yes u right - its same old DOW engine - that's why it took 5 month to skinned it down and dress it in nazi uniform.

as for FOW u should know that BESTWAY developed engine called ECLIPSE for SHOWW2 and GEM3D for FACES OF WAR. those are different engines - i prefer ECLIPSE engine still.

and NO even if COH would have direct control and squad control STILL wouldn't be a opponent to FOW because FOW has no healthbars, healthpoints tanks armor is calculated regarding angle of impact and calliber of the shell and many many many more features that we all know. arcady COH simply can't beat FOW even with (bump,spec +normal mapping hdri Lighting) that features same way in FOW.

[Bot-59]

FoW engine is improved version of SHoWWII engine. (I know it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif )
CoH engine is improved version of DoW engine. (I see it, it's pretty clear to me)
Both companies are wise enough to not remake their engine from scratch.

Engine flame will lead you nowhere.

[dbircsak]

That's right! It's all about <span class="ev_code_RED">gameplay</span> for me, baby! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

[Harmor1]

The only similarity between FoW and CoH is the WW2 setting imo. Other than that they belong to two different genres so I wouldn't really wanna compare them. I never liked CoH-ish games so that one is outta the question for me anyhow. After playing the mp demo however, I can see why some ppl would like CoH and if so, more power to them. I enjoy FoW and that's that.

[jocheen2006]

first of all i dont wanna flame i dont like coh that much and i dont like fow that much http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

i just wanna correct teh unsobill lol

so what is does that mean ? "COH engine is actually NOT havok engine - yes u right"

you know what your taling about ?? havok engine is a physic engine for games you know? and coh has licensed it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

"FOW has no healthbars"

Not realy, you can easily enable them :P

"healthpoints tanks armor is calculated regarding angle of impact and calliber of the shell and many many many more features that we all know"

so who cares if the healhpoints are calculated when you hit 5 times the tracks and the whole tanks is destroyed and you cant even select him anymore and that happends all the time its not anymore like in soldiers that you can destroy the tracks and the tanks cant move anymore but you can still repair it or shoot with it maybe its possible in fow too,dont know realy how it is in coh i played the beta now a month and it looks like that the damage system works with the healtbar but its still possible to damage the motor or the tracks without loosing the whole tank like in fow http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

"(bump,spec +normal mapping hdri Lighting) that features same way in FOW"

fow dont feature normal mapping or hdri lighring i think you dont even know whats that mean lol otherwise you wouldnt say that fow has those features :P

special for you:

With normal mapping you can save alot more details in a skinmap then with a bump map cuz you have to model first a high poly model witch has about 100k -xxx million of polys and convert it on your low poly model witch has 1000-10k polys so you have almost the same level of detaisl on your ingame model got it ? ok

Hdri lighting or high dynamic range lighting works with a hdri picture i could show you one but there to big my hdris are about 50-100 mb lol, but simple thats just normal pics in a scale like 6000x3000.
with hdri lighting you get a more realistic lighting result in your games and its not the bloom effect in fow that just a post processing glow effect you know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

so any question left??

[belgium1989]

at jocheen:
U forgot that in Faces of war there are tons of units...like how many units have you got for the americans in faces of war? I think around 20...in company of heroes around the 10 units... in Faces of war you also have russians... but i gonna try the demo ebentually of coh, it can be fun!

[shadowcreap2006]

i would buy COH without a shadow of dout if:

1:was a bit more realistic,ie tiger CAN kil a sherman within 2+mins lol, and doesnt need 5+REAR shots to kill it--.--

2: more units/armyies very limited units sinse i think they holding back units/army for exspansion just to make a killing on it sinse ppl wil be literly desperate for it ie makes tons of cash ect.

3: possibly better AI sinse i find my units getting stuck on a 0.05 mm rock and then hold unit dies/ also find allie tanks just seem to run over ur units when massed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. as well as AT crew being pretty dumb when gettign stuck on stuffhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

apart from those things it a resonbaly good game(hopefuly the realism mod be out then il see wht game like then)