No Dagger of time

[pitagora2050]

In the ending movie after u fight kaileena the dahaka appears and "devours" kaileena and then he goes to the prince. The prince states :"the amulet of time.. the last relic of the sands of time" .Thus there is no dagger because teh amulet was the last relic of the sands !!!!!

[ntw90]

Hold on a sec! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif.....its right that he said that but i think he is wrong coz i think that the dagger still exist coz in SOT he gave it to Farah and told her to "Guard it well" so i think that there is something wrong here http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif...how did he get that amulet anyway? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

[FireEmpress]

In the manual it says Farah gave it to him...which would be when he was waking up naked (without the weapons http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif) and see that she left him the amulet...

[prince_addy]

why couldn't the prince use the amulet at the end of SoT wen farah takes the dagger away?...it would hav been easier!

[JCD2k4]

Originally posted by FireEmpress:
In the manual it says Farah gave it to him...which would be when he was waking up naked (without the weapons http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif) and see that she left him the amulet...
Actually, he got the Dagger of Time back later on while trying to rescue Farah. She fell down and died. Afterwards the Prince plunged the dagger into the hourglass and reversed all that happend. He rushed off to Farah to tell her what happened, then he fought the Vizier and, finally, he gave the Dagger of Time to Farah and was gone.

@pitagora2050
You refer to the first ending. Take a look at this post (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1121003742/m/1061027742/r/2591006842#2591006842) and go for the second ending. That's where the third installment of Prince of Persia directly continues.

[FireEmpress]

^ we were talking about amulet http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Robert_1989]

well there was something strange which I just noticed: as the prince wakes up, he has the amulet and puts it in his pocket. But after farah falls to her death and he leans over her, he holds the amulet in his hand, as if he wants to return it to farah's corpse. I guess he puts it back in his pocket after that, because farah still has it after you murder the vizier, so it's another timeparadox I guess? Ubi sure made one confusing storyline with this one (or they just said farah gave it to him as an excuse for the prince collecting sand)

[JCD2k4]

Originally posted by FireEmpress:
^ we were talking about amulet http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif right! I'm shooting way too fast http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[qissdrunx]

So like if I return to the topic, I think that dagger the prince has in KB is just an ordinary one. First off, he never threw away the amulet..It's still shown in the KB trailer and in the demo at E3, the HUD shows 6 sand tanks (the amulet has 6 tanks)...the sands still go in the chest where the amulet is. and IF he had the dagger why didn't the sands go like into the dagger, or why didn't he absorb the sand dude? And then I saw another demo where the prince is fighting a sand dude on a roof and he hits the sanddude with the dagger (in SOT the enemy would freeze) but in KB the enemy didn't. The second thing is that if that person at the end of the alt ending in WW is infact Farah and she was like kidnapped, she didn't have time to get the dagger of time cuz it was locked in the volt!

So how does the prince get infected by the sands then? My theory is that when they capture him they take everything from him, including the amulet. Then he's brought to see how they kill Kaileena and BOOM the sands are unleashed and he's infected.

Thats my theory...please correct if i'm wrong.

[prince360]

this is my theroy about the dagger, ok in ww the alternate ending kilenna didnt die but the dagger already exsited since the sands were never released it changed the dagger into the blue dagger we se in the preveiws

[GoldenWasp70]

I read in a thread that the Prince has the Dagger of Time in PoP3. It said that was his main weapon along with his enemy's that he picks up. It also said that the Dark Prince uses the Dagger and The Daggertail! So Duh It has to be there unless they are wrong whitch I doubt since I THINK it was said by someone is is making the game.

[SandWarrior1]

I like using the dagger to control time instead of the amulet. It makes sense how he can control time with the dagger. Besides the life upgrades he never touches the amulet so how does it know to rewind time or slow it down. I like it with the dagger cause he's always holding it or at least he should have it out to control time.

I know this is trivial but it just makes more sense to me.

[Azard]

may be farah gives the dagger bac kto the prince

[Dark_Prince11]

yes..maybe the Prince seeks help from Farah..

[prince360]

if that was farah and they captured her obvisly they invaded her kingdom and probably took the dagger the prince probably frees farah and with no weapon steals the dagger

[pitagora2050]

I think the dahaka is atracted to the powerof the relics of the sot so i think it would have found the dagger. I also agree with sand Warrior... How could the rpince conmtrol time with the amulet without touching it ? HE DID TOUCH IT TO SLOW DOWN TIME WHEN HE SENDS KAILEENA IN THE PRESENT (HE THROWS HER IN TO THE PORTAL )

PS : I love the succes of this little forum.

[JustiX01]

Originally posted by pitagora2050:
In the ending movie after u fight kaileena the dahaka appears and "devours" kaileena and then he goes to the prince. The prince states :"the amulet of time.. the last relic of the sands of time" .Thus there is no dagger because teh amulet was the last relic of the sands !!!!!

You should realy play the game some more :P

[jmk1999]

the sands weren't created since kaileena lived... so in theory, the dagger still exists on the island of time, correct? remember, the maharaja never went to the island of time since there was no sand in the hourglass? so how could he have the dagger? the dagger and the hourglass are probably still at the island. the only reason the amulet isn't is because he had it on him the entire time. which also makes me wonder, what about the vizier's staff? it's probably still there too. the only way he'd have the dagger is if he grabbed it BEFORE they left the island for babylon... unless someone else voyaged to the island at the moment of the fight with the dahaka, grabbed the artifacts and brought them back to babylon, with the intention to kill kaileena. thus, farah would have nothing to do with it, since the entire SoT story has been wiped from existence... all because kaileena is still alive in the present.

[Sniper_Wolf_76]

Originally posted by SandWarrior1:
I like using the dagger to control time instead of the amulet. It makes sense how he can control time with the dagger. Besides the life upgrades he never touches the amulet so how does it know to rewind time or slow it down. I like it with the dagger cause he's always holding it or at least he should have it out to control time.

I know this is trivial but it just makes more sense to me.

I agree with you still its not realistic how the prince rewiens time...I mean when he falls on a trap or get killed how can he rewind time when he is allready DEAD!!!

[Kito_The_Prince]

i hope the prince finds farah so she could give her life to save the prince so farah could be dead...

[GoldenWasp70]

Originally posted by dom1999:
the sands weren't created since kaileena lived... so in theory, the dagger still exists on the island of time, correct? remember, the maharaja never went to the island of time since there was no sand in the hourglass? so how could he have the dagger? the dagger and the hourglass are probably still at the island. the only reason the amulet isn't is because he had it on him the entire time. which also makes me wonder, what about the vizier's staff? it's probably still there too. the only way he'd have the dagger is if he grabbed it BEFORE they left the island for babylon... unless someone else voyaged to the island at the moment of the fight with the dahaka, grabbed the artifacts and brought them back to babylon, with the intention to kill kaileena. thus, farah would have nothing to do with it, since the entire SoT story has been wiped from existence... all because kaileena is still alive in the present. I think you are thinking in the past WW still did take place after the SoT

[jmk1999]

Originally posted by GoldenWasp70:
I think you are thinking in the past WW still did take place after the SoT
huh? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif what are you talkin about? i'm sayin because of WW, SoT did NOT take place.

[Yolkboy]

Originally posted by dom1999:
the sands weren't created since kaileena lived... so in theory, the dagger still exists on the island of time, correct? remember, the maharaja never went to the island of time since there was no sand in the hourglass? so how could he have the dagger? the dagger and the hourglass are probably still at the island. the only reason the amulet isn't is because he had it on him the entire time. which also makes me wonder, what about the vizier's staff? it's probably still there too. the only way he'd have the dagger is if he grabbed it BEFORE they left the island for babylon... unless someone else voyaged to the island at the moment of the fight with the dahaka, grabbed the artifacts and brought them back to babylon, with the intention to kill kaileena. thus, farah would have nothing to do with it, since the entire SoT story has been wiped from existence... all because kaileena is still alive in the present.
Yar! The Old Man took the artifacts! Muhahahha! Anyways, would the artifacts have even been created since there were no Sands? Maybe not. Ubi should really reference the three artifacts in KB to tie the story together http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[le_nin]

Originally posted by Yolkboy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dom1999:
the sands weren't created since kaileena lived... so in theory, the dagger still exists on the island of time, correct? remember, the maharaja never went to the island of time since there was no sand in the hourglass? so how could he have the dagger? the dagger and the hourglass are probably still at the island. the only reason the amulet isn't is because he had it on him the entire time. which also makes me wonder, what about the vizier's staff? it's probably still there too. the only way he'd have the dagger is if he grabbed it BEFORE they left the island for babylon... unless someone else voyaged to the island at the moment of the fight with the dahaka, grabbed the artifacts and brought them back to babylon, with the intention to kill kaileena. thus, farah would have nothing to do with it, since the entire SoT story has been wiped from existence... all because kaileena is still alive in the present.
Yar! The Old Man took the artifacts! Muhahahha! Anyways, would the artifacts have even been created since there were no Sands? Maybe not. Ubi should really reference the three artifacts in KB to tie the story together http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

well, if there is to be no more paradoxes in the game, then:
- the amulet only works as a time controling item in the island of time, outside of it, as we saw in sot, it's only purpose is to protect who wears it from the sands

- the dagger could have been created at the same time as the hourglass, so the maharaja could have taken it from the island, if he did plunder the island(it still is the "island of time" and probably it has treasures that justify such an action). And it only works as a time controlling item after the sands are released, so technically when the prince says "the amulet of time.. the last relic of the sands of time", the dagger is in the past and its not activated so its only a dagger...but then again, if the first ending has no consequence then maybe it's not important what he said in it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

- about the vizier's staff, personally i think its just a powerful magical artifact, and it has nothing to do with the power of controlling time, nor with the island of time.

but anyway, lets just hope that everything will be explained in KB http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

[pitagora2050]

The Dahakas job was to kill the prince so the dahaka chased him absolutely everywhere including in the past ..f you remember the scene where u take of the mask of the wraith. Therefor the dahaka is obliged to do the same thing to the sands .. chase them everywhere includeing in the past. if you remember in the first ending imediately after he takes your amulet the dahaka vanishez , and his job is done.
The same thing is with the second ending the only diference is that the dahaka aperars befor u would start to fight the empress not after . So there is no dagger. I would like to see what Ferah's implication is in all this story ... i liked her much more tha Kaileena !!!!!!!!!