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oO_ShadowFox_Oo
06-10-2010, 08:32 AM
I thought we already had one of these threads, but apparently not. Feel free to add your own And I'll pop them in here in the OP. I know Andre has some http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

EDIT: Updated with Andre's stealthroughs, some Chaos Theory stealthroughs and SAR's Great - The Message.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/theonlyrossaroni/sam.jpg

Mission 1 - Malta

Andre202 - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkXrVv38fvY)

Mission 2 - Kobin's Mansion

Andre202 - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYOe05bwQqI)

Mission 3 - Price Airfield

Andre202 - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJlUwScAbQ4)

Mission 4 - Iraq

ShadowFox - Part 1 (http://www.viddler.com/explore/FreemasonFurbie/videos/10/) ; Part 2 (http://www.viddler.com/explore/FreemasonFurbie/videos/9/)

Andre202 - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So1PIW1lo_o) ; Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIkO6IKkxyI)

Mission 5 - Washington Monument

Andre202 - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efThzOEwrhY)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/theonlyrossaroni/splinter_cell_conviction_co-op.jpg

Coop Mission 1

Andre202 & TheRealSam Part (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJUiXJ7P1AQ) ; Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUPa5cfKLWc)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/theonlyrossaroni/chaos_1.jpg

Mission 1 - Lighthouse

ShadowFox - Part 1 (http://www.viddler.com/explore/FreemasonFurbie/videos/2/)

Mission 2 - Cargo Ship

ShadowFox - Hugo & the Boat (http://www.viddler.com/explore/FreemasonFurbie/videos/4/)

Mission 3 - Panamanian Bank

ShadowFox - Paco's Nightshift in the Bank (http://www.viddler.com/explore/FreemasonFurbie/videos/5/)

Mission 4 - New York Penthouse

ShadowFox - The Penthouse (http://www.viddler.com/explore/FreemasonFurbie/videos/6/)

Mission 5 - Displace

ShadowFox - Displaced (http://www.viddler.com/explore/FreemasonFurbie/videos/3/)

Mission 7 - North Korean Missile Battery

ShadowFox - Battery Not Included (http://www.viddler.com/explore/FreemasonFurbie/videos/3/)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/theonlyrossaroni/splinter_cell_pandora_tomorrow_002.jpg

Mission 1 - Dili, Timor
Andre202 - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f_XKs65Xm4) ; Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn41HuJd1Rs)


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/theonlyrossaroni/splinter_cell_001.jpg

Mission 1 - T'iBlisi Police Station

(the Great) The Message - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSCxh5pV1YE&feature=channel) ; Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tyZnc-yX5w&feature=channel)
Andre202 - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4POVtp1aj4) ; Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyVoeiKkgH8)

Mission 2 - Defense Ministry

(the Great) The Message - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obe5jzUfPKM) ; Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uRNb_Z2WTY&feature=related)
Andre202 - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQDp7VLkyo0) ; Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWDFk6-HoNM)

Mission 3 - GFO Oil Rig

(the Great) The Message - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykLHzC2Xdw8&feature=channel) ; Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2szoLXLIqXg&feature=channel)
Andre202 - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biTjEJMYL8U)

Mission 4 - CIA HQ

(the Great) The Message - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHVScywoPnA&feature=related) ; Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl4VrJwQUl8&feature=related) ; Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGlUq0KSgls&feature=related)
Andre202 - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g02maP5AP0) ; Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTsdmDWz3rM)

Mission 5 - Kalinatek

(the Great) The Message - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8qagXxieaA) ; Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLpVIuRcejs)
Andre202 - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrOreqY8aIc) ; Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQqgfxEgWDw)

Mission 6 - Chinese Embassy

(the Great) The Message - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRRyv2fhv80) ; Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ob8CVYUq0Q)
Andre202 - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FnjjwY_Ho4) ; Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfWjN2g2Y9k)

Mission 7 - Abbatoir

(the Great) The Message - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqVaHpnFMLE) ; Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r00mqHft-Uk)

Mission 8 - Return to the Chinese Embassy

(the Great) The Message - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2yxKyum1l4) ; Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfVZvPER5k0&feature=related)

Mission 9 - Georgian Presidential Palace

(the Great) The Message - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHVQRQuXMLs&feature=related) ; Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWtnBZWs90o&feature=related)

Mission 10 - The Kola Peninsula

(the Great) The Message - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRjlkThwLig&feature=related) ; Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Riri4LZycEM&feature=related)

Mission 11 - Vselka Submarine

(the Great) The Message - Infiltration (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqN2ThgWgH8&feature=related) ; Submarine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3HafA7rHk0&feature=related)

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Falzar
06-10-2010, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by oO_ShadowFox_Oo:
I thought we already had one of these threads, but apparently not. Feel free to add your own And I'll pop them in here in the OP. I know Andre has some http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Anyway, here is the Iraq rescue mission, how it's supposed to be done when you're alone, outnumbered and behind enemy lines...

No bullets, no detections.

Just note that when it comes to the school there is no way to get by without the guards coming out shooting. The game has three 'tripwires' (one as you enter the door, one past the first column and one past the first bench) that are there to automatically rumble you. Each ones creates an invisible LKP that the guards will run and shoot at, but at no time am I detected when they do.

Also, it's in two parts (rather than a single run) because I have a lack of memory on my computer and can only record around 10 mins at a time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Conviction - Iraq:

Part 1 (http://www.viddler.com/explore/FreemasonFurbie/videos/10/)

Part 2 (http://www.viddler.com/explore/FreemasonFurbie/videos/9/)

man great job... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

Andre202
06-10-2010, 10:04 AM
Nice ShadowFox. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
The kills/KOs on the Street at the beginning are actually not necessary you can get there through without any kills. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

My Stealth Walkthroughs (They are in German but the important thing is the gameplay anyway). And I have to say that I am also shooting at times because of the limitations in luring the guards:

SinglePlayer:

- Full Stealth Walkthrough - Mission 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkXrVv38fvY)

- Full Stealth Walkthrough - Mission 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYOe05bwQqI)



MultiPlayer: (Note: Special Thanks to TheRealSam)

- Full Stealth Walkthrough - Coop Mission 1 [Part 1] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJUiXJ7P1AQ)
- Full Stealth Walkthrough - Coop Mission 1 [Part 2] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUPa5cfKLWc)


I am about to play through the Airfield mission. It's all in one Playthrough. So if the dev team are reading this thread. Please make the Cutscenes skipable otherwise I have to look at it everytime... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

oO_ShadowFox_Oo
06-10-2010, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by Andre202:
Nice ShadowFox. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
The kills/KOs on the Street at the beginning are actually not necessary you can get there through without any kills. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Which part are you talking about? Where I toss the frag at the car? Where I blow up the tanker? Just before the school?

All of them?

Falzar
06-10-2010, 10:56 AM
the thing is that when the game forces you to start the killing spree you say NO and start the stealth way..NC guys good job... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Andre202
06-10-2010, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by oO_ShadowFox_Oo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Andre202:
Nice ShadowFox. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
The kills/KOs on the Street at the beginning are actually not necessary you can get there through without any kills. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Which part are you talking about? Where I toss the frag at the car? Where I blow up the tanker? Just before the school?

All of them? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
No before that when you go through the street you knocked out two guys who were patrolling in front of the three man group. I know how to come through it without throwing a grenade or something. It looks ridicolous though. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I will try to record the mission today and will add the Airfield later.

oO_ShadowFox_Oo
06-10-2010, 11:27 AM
Just added some CT stealthroughs


Originally posted by Falzar:
the thing is that when the game forces you to start the killing spree you say NO and start the stealth way..NC guys good job... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

That's what it's all about http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


Originally posted by Andre202:
No before that when you go through the street you knocked out two guys who were patrolling in front of the three man group. I know how to come through it without throwing a grenade or something. It looks ridicolous though. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I will try to record the mission today and will add the Airfield later.

Do you go up the left side? Out of curiosity ?

Andre202
06-10-2010, 11:46 AM
No I go at the right side at the end. First they are standing there and your were actually at the right position. You wait til they begin their patrol then you go behind the guard on the right side. After that you go along the truck using the cover system. You will be standing really near to the three men group. You go around the truck and then crouched on the right side. Noone will ever know that you were there. You don't need gadgets there. Though it could be that the reaction of the AI is on XBox and PC different.

oO_ShadowFox_Oo
06-10-2010, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by Andre202:
No I go at the right side at the end. First they are standing there and your were actually at the right position. You wait til they begin their patrol then you go behind the guard on the right side. After that you go along the truck using the cover system. You will be standing really near to the three men group. You go around the truck and then crouched on the right side. Noone will ever know that you were there. You don't need gadgets there. Though it could be that the reaction of the AI is on XBox and PC different.

I've tried that before. I know that a few of the guards in the level (and other levels) have their field of view blocked when it shouldn't be to make paths for the player. I thought that area would be the same, but it didn't work.

Maybe I wasn't covered to the truck properly? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Anyways, a little creative improvisation never hurt a gamer http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sarapion
06-10-2010, 12:08 PM
In order to bypass that three man group and not take out the sentries patrolling near them. just go to that truck (the tractor trailer one), and put your back up against it. when you get to the end of the truck, aim and have Coste dive to the other truck as cover. then detach yourself and go to the shoulder of the road. THIS IS THE VITAL PART. you must STAY ON THE SHOULDER until there is a piece of debris that you can't bypass. then just walk around it and you got past everyone on the road without even touching them.

Joshua Morrison
06-10-2010, 11:19 PM
These videos are awesome, I love seeing the old Splinter Cells it makes me want to pop in the disk and start all over again. One of my only complains is that I don't like seeing Sam being able to run so much. I mean in a couple of them is is able to run all the way up to about 10 feet then stop and slowly pass I don't think that is fair the enemies should be more aware.

lol I'm not afraid to critique the old games either.

fraggu1
06-11-2010, 04:02 AM
the conviction waklthroughs posted above are not played well. this guy has made the best conviction stealth walkthrough i've seen so far:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7MtC0ZyaKA

Dread_stunlock
06-11-2010, 05:19 AM
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!

Where did the pistol come from?! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifD

I thought you only could have an AK-47 with grenades http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Oh my jesus http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Andre202
06-11-2010, 06:05 AM
Originally posted by fraggu1:
the conviction waklthroughs posted above are not played well. this guy has made the best conviction stealth walkthrough i've seen so far:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7MtC0ZyaKA
Yeah he has got 3 kills less because he is using the trick to load the checkpoint and at the checkpoint these three guys before Kobin's room aren't there anymore. So he wasn't conftronted to take care of them. If he wouldn't load the Checkpoint the three guys would storm Kobin's room after you have killed the six guys in the room where Kobin is. Though I think he has done a good job there. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

oO_ShadowFox_Oo
06-11-2010, 06:25 AM
Originally posted by fraggu1:
the conviction waklthroughs posted above are not played well. this guy has made the best conviction stealth walkthrough i've seen so far:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7MtC0ZyaKA

Ya, his Iraq mission isn't stealthy at all.

A few times in his walkthroughs he just says "This section isn't passable." And then just ploughs his way through, when it is passable. He does this in other sections of his walkthroughs also, which I've watched and then found ways past.

Also, as Andre said, he's using loading from checkpoints at several stages, which means enemies don't spawn.

But there's no doubt that he's good http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Jazz117Volkov
06-11-2010, 06:41 AM
Nice work there in Iraq, Shadow. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I'll watch the rest another time, kinda busy right now.

Noccifer
06-11-2010, 06:59 AM
I'm amazed at how some guys can still play Conviction and not vomit or spontaneously combust.

coltcat
06-11-2010, 08:24 AM
first of all, this is sick http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif , but Mr.Shadow
no offence but I cant see the point you are doing it.
I mean frankly I dont feel any fun in stealth through this level (most SCC level as well)
this is like trys to avoid contact in a CoD game. it's sometime hard as hell, but I'll getting nothing but frustration even after I manage to go through , I feel no joy or achievemens.
whats even worse is when MB sees this his might as well says "look! this shows we still have stealth in this game , this is how things works, fans are loving it"

oO_ShadowFox_Oo
06-11-2010, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by coltcat:
first of all, this is sick http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif , but Mr.Shadow
no offence but I cant see the point you are doing it.
I mean frankly I dont feel any fun in stealth through this level (most SCC level as well)
this is like trys to avoid contact in a CoD game. it's sometime hard as hell, but I'll getting nothing but frustration even after I manage to go through , I feel no joy or achievemens.
whats even worse is when MB sees this his might as well says "look! this shows we still have stealth in this game , this is how things works, fans are loving it"

This isn't specifically for Conviction. It's a thread for stealthroughs across all the games. Conviction is just the one that's getting most attention because it's the newest released one.

Also, in comparison to the stealthroughs from other games, the Conviction ones do indeed look lacking, so you have to take the whole thread in context http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I just hope people do start adding their own stealthroughs, from right across the franchise. Because that's what it's all about http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

insanity76
06-11-2010, 08:53 AM
I was about to post a link to themessage's youtube channel with the full walkthrough for the original, 3 bonus maps included. I see you added some of his to your OP http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

oO_ShadowFox_Oo
06-11-2010, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by insanity76:
I was about to post a link to themessage's youtube channel with the full walkthrough for the original, 3 bonus maps included. I see you added some of his to your OP http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Add them in here! I didn't realise he had a channel.

I was looking but could only find those four, uploaded by someone else. I was going to split up the actual 1GB+ file into pieces and upload them myself, but if they're already up, send em and I'll add them in http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

insanity76
06-11-2010, 09:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/user/otsuge#p/search

You have to type "Splinter Cell" into the search box, and all the vids will come up.

I think one of my favorite things he does is how he handles the end of the abbatoir. The only forced "firefight" of the game yet he does so without drawing his gun once (except when grabbing from behind). Isn't seen once except for maybe Grinko, no use of gadgets, nothing. This is it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r00mqHft-Uk

Also, the fact he pops Nikoladze with the pistol instead of the zoomed in SC20 LOL.

oO_ShadowFox_Oo
06-11-2010, 10:13 AM
Ya, he does some pretty insane stuff to be quite honest about it.

Anyway, added all of his stuff.

Keep em coming folks! Still need people's contributions from PT/DA

Andre202
06-11-2010, 11:43 AM
Well I could make some high quality videos. I actually have planned to make of the whole franchise walkthroughs.

I will upload the Iraq mission. Forgive me please one knock out that didn't went well. But I thought it's ok.

oO_ShadowFox_Oo
06-11-2010, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Andre202:
Well I could make some high quality videos. I actually have planned to make of the whole franchise walkthroughs.

I will upload the Iraq mission. Forgive me please one knock out that didn't went well. But I thought it's ok.

UNACCEPTABLE! THIS THREAD DEMANDS PERFECTION!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Andre202
06-11-2010, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by oO_ShadowFox_Oo:
UNACCEPTABLE! THIS THREAD DEMANDS PERFECTION!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif
Ok I will try it again. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Looks like I have a lucky day, now I have fixed my mistake. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Andre202
06-11-2010, 08:03 PM
SinglePlayer:

- Full Stealth Walkthrough - Mission 4 [Part 1] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So1PIW1lo_o)
- Full Stealth Walkthrough - Mission 4 [Part 2] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIkO6IKkxyI)

- Full Stealth Walkthrough . Mission 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efThzOEwrhY)

Thor-axe112
06-14-2010, 04:26 PM
ShadowFox and Andre, what difficulty did you guys play the Iraq mission on?

Versus-Mroj
06-14-2010, 04:31 PM
Any ideas for last part in Reservoir mission with chopper? I don't know if its possible... Maybe without chopper or without bots, but with both, I am still unsuccessful. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

10th mission will be easy, but some other complications will be in White House...

oO_ShadowFox_Oo
06-15-2010, 05:18 AM
Originally posted by Andre202:
SinglePlayer:

- Full Stealth Walkthrough - Mission 4 [Part 1] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So1PIW1lo_o)
- Full Stealth Walkthrough - Mission 4 [Part 2] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIkO6IKkxyI)

- Full Stealth Walkthrough . Mission 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efThzOEwrhY)

Very nice work! Much smoother way of doing Iraq http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


Originally posted by Thor-axe112:
ShadowFox and Andre, what difficulty did you guys play the Iraq mission on?

All of my difficulties are set on the highest for CT and Conviction.


Originally posted by Versus-Mroj:
Any ideas for last part in Reservoir mission with chopper? I don't know if its possible... Maybe without chopper or without bots, but with both, I am still unsuccessful. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

10th mission will be easy, but some other complications will be in White House...

I've pretty much figured that the helicopter section is impassable as I hide at the very start of it out of LoS and am still immediately found.

But I reckon I'll try and record up to that point as the rest of it is passable I reckon.

coltcat
06-15-2010, 05:38 AM
Originally posted by oO_ShadowFox_Oo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Andre202:
SinglePlayer:

- Full Stealth Walkthrough - Mission 4 [Part 1] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So1PIW1lo_o)
- Full Stealth Walkthrough - Mission 4 [Part 2] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIkO6IKkxyI)

- Full Stealth Walkthrough . Mission 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efThzOEwrhY)

Very nice work! Much smoother way of doing Iraq http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


Originally posted by Thor-axe112:
ShadowFox and Andre, what difficulty did you guys play the Iraq mission on?

All of my difficulties are set on the highest for CT and Conviction.


Originally posted by Versus-Mroj:
Any ideas for last part in Reservoir mission with chopper? I don't know if its possible... Maybe without chopper or without bots, but with both, I am still unsuccessful. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

10th mission will be easy, but some other complications will be in White House...

I've pretty much figured that the helicopter section is impassable as I hide at the very start of it out of LoS and am still immediately found.

But I reckon I'll try and record up to that point as the rest of it is passable I reckon. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
it seems unavoidable. since you are meant to be see by it but you can lower the killing down by trigger the gadgets then run into the house. than you only have to shoot 5 guy whos guarding aside the generator..

I dont know why , but I prefer no killing more than getting detection.

btw, does anyone had any idea how to go through that machine gun turret at the same level without killing the guy who opetate it? it's fine you throw a frag in , but I seriously I just dont want to kill him.

***complaining***
and when you approach first generator. that transmission for Vic just take too fcking long. 90% chance for you to expose yourself when doing that, I only manage pass there 2 time in my whole conviction gaming history. why the hell Sam needs to get to in front of that shining control panel to type in his PDA? this part of level design just ******ed. and after that, on the way Sam going to the basement, some mercs just throw you a flashbang and clearly know where you are coming and trys to take you out. WTF is the meaning for those "we know you are here" sequence take so much place in this game? sure sometime they are passable but still Beland you have failed! the game was just frustrating for stealth players.
***complaining***

Thor-axe112
06-16-2010, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by oO_ShadowFox_Oo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Andre202:
Nice ShadowFox. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
The kills/KOs on the Street at the beginning are actually not necessary you can get there through without any kills. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Which part are you talking about? Where I toss the frag at the car? Where I blow up the tanker? Just before the school?

All of them? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've been trying to get through the part where you blow up the tanker without tossing a frag and the only way I've come up with is to knock out the one guard that stands with his back to the large window and is facing the back alley you go into. Thing is, I'm not sure of your definition of stealth. Would you rather knock out one more guy and not alert everyone else there or toss the frag?

Andre202
06-18-2010, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by oO_ShadowFox_Oo:
Very nice work! Much smoother way of doing Iraq http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Thanks! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


Originally posted by Thor-axe112:
I've been trying to get through the part where you blow up the tanker without tossing a frag and the only way I've come up with is to knock out the one guard that stands with his back to the large window and is facing the back alley you go into. Thing is, I'm not sure of your definition of stealth. Would you rather knock out one more guy and not alert everyone else there or toss the frag?
You can do it without a frag grenade but after that it is very random how the guards will go to investigate the area. Sometimes they go the way that you haven't got a chance to "ghost" other time you have luck and you can just run through them. Try to jump through a window that is behind the truck and then hide. After that it's all improvisation.

I play my walkthrough all on Realistic.

PS: Couldn't respond that fast Ubi forums are going crazy for me. Cannot log in and the german forums are down since E3.

Versus-Mroj
06-18-2010, 03:58 PM
PS: Couldn't respond that fast Ubi forums are going crazy for me. Cannot log in and the german forums are down since E3.

Same here... It always log me off!

NYC_Elite
06-18-2010, 04:22 PM
Yeah the forums have been really buggy lately. I haven't been able to post for the past 2 days, it would always ask me to sign in when I'm already signed in, then when I "sign in" it refreshes the login page and tells me to do it again.

CoastalGirl
06-18-2010, 06:16 PM
They've been working on the forums; if you're having trouble, try clearing your cookies - it should help. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

oO_ShadowFox_Oo
06-18-2010, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by Thor-axe112:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by oO_ShadowFox_Oo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Andre202:
Nice ShadowFox. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
The kills/KOs on the Street at the beginning are actually not necessary you can get there through without any kills. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Which part are you talking about? Where I toss the frag at the car? Where I blow up the tanker? Just before the school?

All of them? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've been trying to get through the part where you blow up the tanker without tossing a frag and the only way I've come up with is to knock out the one guard that stands with his back to the large window and is facing the back alley you go into. Thing is, I'm not sure of your definition of stealth. Would you rather knock out one more guy and not alert everyone else there or toss the frag? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

As Andre said, their behaviour becomes unpredictable, but I find that if you're going to embrace Conviction's style of gameplay, you might as well get a little in your face with the distractions. As such, I use remote mines/frags alot to draw attention away when its required.

Obviously all KOs would be sneakier, but a bit of improv isn't out of place. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

NYC_Elite
06-18-2010, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by oO_ShadowFox_Oo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Thor-axe112:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by oO_ShadowFox_Oo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Andre202:
Nice ShadowFox. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
The kills/KOs on the Street at the beginning are actually not necessary you can get there through without any kills. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Which part are you talking about? Where I toss the frag at the car? Where I blow up the tanker? Just before the school?

All of them? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've been trying to get through the part where you blow up the tanker without tossing a frag and the only way I've come up with is to knock out the one guard that stands with his back to the large window and is facing the back alley you go into. Thing is, I'm not sure of your definition of stealth. Would you rather knock out one more guy and not alert everyone else there or toss the frag? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

As Andre said, their behaviour becomes unpredictable, but I find that if you're going to embrace Conviction's style of gameplay, you might as well get a little in your face with the distractions. As such, I use remote mines/frags alot to draw attention away when its required.

Obviously all KOs would be sneakier, but a bit of improv isn't out of place. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Personally when doing such things as tossing that frag under a car and blowing it up to create a distraction, I (poorly?) justify it to myself by thinking, "Hey, this is an unstable warzone with broken/somewhat operational vehicles cluttering the streets, fully capable of exploding at any time." A random car blowing up for whatever reason to me is more "stealthy" (lol) than knocking out a guy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

oO_ShadowFox_Oo
06-19-2010, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by NYC_Elite:
Personally when doing such things as tossing that frag under a car and blowing it up to create a distraction, I (poorly?) justify it to myself by thinking, "Hey, this is an unstable warzone with broken/somewhat operational vehicles cluttering the streets, fully capable of exploding at any time." A random car blowing up for whatever reason to me is more "stealthy" (lol) than knocking out a guy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Well......no....the way I see it, the game is projecting this idea that you are engaged at all times, at all angles, whether you are in sight or not. The enemy knows you are there, regardless of how careful/careless you have been. Contact is imminent in this game and as stupid/******ed as this situation is (with the game's development intentionally and constantly rumbling you EVEN WHEN YOU ARE COMPLETELY UNDETECTABLE BY NORMAL MEANS [WTF?]) and with the complete lack of tools at your disposal to sneak past people unnoticed, I figure - why not blow **** up to draw attention from where you are?

This is (of course) completely un-Splinter Cell like, but playing this game like a Splinter Cell game is not possible. Ghosting ANY mission is not possible. So with that in mind, I figure that getting as creative as the game allows and making makeshift distractions to legitimately sneak past guards is far more interesting than trying to find that one path that has been programmed into the game that involves sneaking past the field of view of a guard that has been intentionally (and hilariously) cut so you can move past them unnoticed.

I mean. How many guards have you moved past in this game that you have laughed afterwards and said "Are these AI programmers for real?"

My answer is - too many!

Poor and lazy level design seems to be the problem.

Thor-axe112
06-19-2010, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by Andre202:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Thor-axe112:
I've been trying to get through the part where you blow up the tanker without tossing a frag and the only way I've come up with is to knock out the one guard that stands with his back to the large window and is facing the back alley you go into. Thing is, I'm not sure of your definition of stealth. Would you rather knock out one more guy and not alert everyone else there or toss the frag?
You can do it without a frag grenade but after that it is very random how the guards will go to investigate the area. Sometimes they go the way that you haven't got a chance to "ghost" other time you have luck and you can just run through them. Try to jump through a window that is behind the truck and then hide. After that it's all improvisation.

I play my walkthrough all on Realistic. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here. After you throw the frag the guards react differently and you have to improvise a way to get around them? Cause when I knock out the guard no one else notices and so they all stick to their routine patrols which are really easy to get by. And I was playing on realisitic too. I think it would be better if I had a way to record my gameplay.

Andre202
06-19-2010, 12:55 PM
After you have jumped through the window in the house that is standing behind the truck, all guards are going to investigate. That's the way how you do it without a frag grenade. But as I said the AI reacts always differently so sometimes you can "ghost" through the area, you have to improvise your way through them though. Sometimes they are going ways where you won't be able to "ghost". I don't think it's bad when the AI reacts always different. What I think is bad is that they search three times at the same area and their field of view is very ridicolous. Besides you should be always able to GHOST.

Thor-axe112
06-19-2010, 03:09 PM
Oh, I see. Cool, I wouldn't have thought of that. I think it would be pretty challenging (for me) to anticipate several guards' moves and if they would see me or not. If I actually make it through that situation I'd feel pretty accomplished because it's not just memorizing guard patterns, it takes skill and awareness. But it's nice to know there's more than a couple ways to "ghost" through that part.


Originally posted by Andre202:
Besides you should be always able to GHOST.

And I completely agree with you there.

KenTWOu
07-13-2010, 10:29 PM
Splinter Cell Conviction: Perfect Stealth Co-op (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/7211014258/m/8941022568/p/1)

Andre202
07-27-2010, 11:50 AM
Well I am still at the Airfield mission. I hadn't much time to end it in the last weeks. I am about to figure out how to get to the satelite to plant the C4 safely.

I decided to do what I have planned already: Doing Stealth Walkthroughs of all SCs. And beginning is SC SAR. I have a question though. I would like to know if this quality is good enough and if I should do the next walkthroughs in English. Here are the first two...


- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - Training [Part 1] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a86Q5v4k2q8)

- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - Training [Part 2] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzSnWp8YSPA)


I hope you enjoy! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

codenameeric
07-27-2010, 02:11 PM
Andre202: Quality is excellent. Kudos.

I'll be interested to see the rest... I tried to make it through SAR without using any weapons or gadgets (except a lock pick). Alas, I had to use a diversion cam in the Abattoir.

Andre202
07-28-2010, 07:50 AM
I am uploading the first mission now and I have actually the same goal. Not using my weapon or gadgets but you have to use your weapon already in the first mission to shoot the windows so you get through the room full of smoke healthy.

Jazz117Volkov
07-28-2010, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by Andre202:
I am uploading the first mission now and I have actually the same goal. Not using my weapon or gadgets but you have to use your weapon already in the first mission to shoot the windows so you get through the room full of smoke healthy. I'll check that out. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I've been wanting to add to this thread with some of my stealthroughs, but I just haven't had the time to make any. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif ...If fact, I better get back to work right now. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

...can't wait for the Christmas holidays. So many fun things to do. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Andre202
07-29-2010, 04:19 AM
New Mission:

- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - T'Bilisi Police Station [Part 1] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4POVtp1aj4)

- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - T'Bilisi Police Station [Part 2] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyVoeiKkgH8)


I have a question for the next mission though. I have also watched the walkthroughs of "the message". Now the question is about the driver you are interrogating in the second mission. Too distract the guard standing in front of the door he goes to him and will be detected, now is that still Stealthy? I rather shoot a bullet to distract him.

Jazz117Volkov
07-29-2010, 10:52 AM
^ Not bad at all Andre. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I have managed most of the first game with no bullets and no distractions...
kinda time consuming though. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Andre202
07-29-2010, 02:19 PM
Thanks.

Someone know how to shoot the window at the end of the Defense Ministry mission so I only need one bullet? Ir's really annyoing to come end up there everytime because the window didn't broke after a shoot.

codenameeric
07-29-2010, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by Andre202:
Thanks.

Someone know how to shoot the window at the end of the Defense Ministry mission so I only need one bullet? Ir's really annyoing to come end up there everytime because the window didn't broke after a shoot.

If you're talking about the office window, just jump while rappelling and you'll go right through it.

http://www.visualwalkthroughs....ission2/mission2.htm (http://www.visualwalkthroughs.com/splintercell/mission2/mission2.htm)

I was able to get through that level without any weapons or distractions, which may have been a fluke. I "punched" the dude in the office, lost a lot of health, and then hid behind the filing cabinet. The three guards came in, looked around, and left. I was surprised, since I never played it that way before.

I've gotta say, I gained a whole new appreciation for the level design of SAR when I tried it without weapons/gadgets. I discovered things I never saw before...

Jazz117Volkov
07-30-2010, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by Andre202:
Thanks.

Someone know how to shoot the window at the end of the Defense Ministry mission so I only need one bullet? Ir's really annyoing to come end up there everytime because the window didn't broke after a shoot. Yeah, what codenameeric said. Just jump after you shoot the guard and Sam will fly through the window.

You can also run and jump through glass walls\doors and use your melee attack on them to break them.
This can be done in all SC games pre SCC. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif (afaik)

Andre202
07-30-2010, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Jazz_117:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Andre202:
Thanks.

Someone know how to shoot the window at the end of the Defense Ministry mission so I only need one bullet? Ir's really annyoing to come end up there everytime because the window didn't broke after a shoot. Yeah, what codenameeric said. Just jump after you shoot the guard and Sam will fly through the window.

You can also run and jump through glass walls\doors and use your melee attack on them to break them.
This can be done in all SC games pre SCC. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif (afaik) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>The thing is, I don't want to kill that guys there. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Jazz117Volkov
07-30-2010, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by Andre202:
The thing is, I don't want to kill that guys there. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I always considered him an acceptable loss. :\

You could always jump in and elbow his a$$. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ...its possible you’ll be shot in the process though. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

codenameeric
07-30-2010, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by Jazz_117:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Andre202:
The thing is, I don't want to kill that guys there. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I always considered him an acceptable loss. :\

You could always jump in and elbow his a$$. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ...its possible you’ll be shot in the process though. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's what I did. You lose health, but it's cool.

Andre202
07-30-2010, 04:26 PM
There is one spot you can shot and the window will brake. But you know how the Aim System in SC SAR (though I think it's pretty realistic, bullets doesn't go always in the direction you are aiming). You will be lucky to hit this spot. I have to say when I was younger I always wanted to kill him with a shot through the window and then I had always the problem that that the window broke with one shot http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif . Now that I need it for the walkthrough it didn't work. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

But at the end I was lucky and it worked. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And I have knocked out the driver because I considered it not Stealthy to be detected so you can use the bug and have lesser KOs. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Oil Refinery is ready too and there is one situation with an soldier where I always have to smile. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I will upload them tonight.

sameer_monier
07-30-2010, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by codenameeric:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jazz_117:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Andre202:
The thing is, I don't want to kill that guys there. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I always considered him an acceptable loss. :\

You could always jump in and elbow his a$$. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ...its possible you’ll be shot in the process though. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's what I did. You lose health, but it's cool. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I did that too, and when the guards were coming i jumped out of the window, hanging on the ledge thinking " would Sam in real life fall ?!, or would that guard see my hand there ?! " lol, it was great really how i can break into him the way i did

green_abobo
07-30-2010, 07:59 PM
sticky cams are your friend. in any mission.not only can you use them to scout ahead,but you can use them for my personal favorite technique.

find a focal point on any map where the enemies are densely populated,throw one in an area that contains some cover and darkness,where you can lie in wait, and use the cool song noise to lure enemies in one by one.

use the human shield grapple move to drag them off into the darkness where you can dispatch them one by one.

sure the enemies know something's up,but it doesn't matter as long as they don't see you.

i can play through deniable ops missions like hunter and infiltration,on realistic all by myself using this technique combined with the five-seven, 4 mark executions to kill em all baby.


i suppose if i actually played with other people i wouldn't have to rely on this technique constantly.

Andre202
07-31-2010, 08:39 AM
So two new Walkthroughs:

- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 2. Defense Ministry [Part 1] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQDp7VLkyo0)
- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 2. Defense Ministry [Part 2] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWDFk6-HoNM)

- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 3. Oil Refinery (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biTjEJMYL8U)

Andre202
08-07-2010, 04:43 AM
New Walkthrough:

- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 4. CIA HQ [Part 1] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g02maP5AP0)
- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 4. CIA HQ [Part 2] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTsdmDWz3rM)

RedSwirl
08-15-2010, 08:37 AM
Man. I all-stealthed Chaos Theory - no bullets, no detections, not even melees and knockouts. In Conviction you definitely can't use the same tactics as before here - distracting the enemy and using the environment against him (at least not to the same degree). What I see here is mostly just timing.

I'm only halfway through Conviction (just beat Washington Monument which I'd have done full-stealth except for one guy I shot for no reason). Most of the stuff in these videos I'm seeing is just pieces of the environment I missed or me overestimating the enemy AI.

I want to see mission 3 - if it's at all possible.

Andre202
08-15-2010, 09:20 AM
Mission 3 is very difficult and I am trying it every day. Perhaps I am lucky today and it will work. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

RedSwirl
08-15-2010, 09:45 AM
I could maybe see the last two parts of the mission done full stealth since they're just you avoiding guys trying to get to one point.

What I'm worried about though is the mission up to sabotaging the helicopter. How do you get past that very first group of guys? The only way I can get them to move away from the C4 is to shoot a light over yonder which get's one of them (sometimes two) moving in that direction. I can't even get in position without taking out the first guy though, maybe distract him further into the hangar...

Can't find any videos of anyone doing Mission 3 full stealth either.

Andre202
08-15-2010, 11:49 AM
For me planting the C4 on the helicopter and the second passage where there are three guards patrolling next to the objective is pretty easy. But then the third and fourth passage are difficult for mr. I can avoid them mostly but the last person who is standing next to the computer needs to be killed. That's the only one I am killing there.

In first passage I shot a light and both will be distracted after they investigated they call for help and all three guards are beginning to search for me. Now you need to get to the C4 on the right time and you are done. Then when you climbing through the first window of the big hall. Go along the wall to the other side of the hall where you can enter the room where the light switch is. Turn off the lights, go to the helicopter, throw an EMP grenade to left corner where the Exit is. If you threw it right the guards will go to that conrner. If not, you have to throw another EMP. Then you can plant your C4. I think it's better when I show my walkthrough which isn't finished yet.

EDIT: Price Airfield is ready for Upload. It has one cut (between cutscene and actual gameplay) though so the video is under 15 minutes.

digi_matrix
08-16-2010, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Andre202:
For me planting the C4 on the helicopter and the second passage where there are three guards patrolling next to the objective is pretty easy. But then the third and fourth passage are difficult for mr. I can avoid them mostly but the last person who is standing next to the computer needs to be killed. That's the only one I am killing there.

In first passage I shot a light and both will be distracted after they investigated they call for help and all three guards are beginning to search for me. Now you need to get to the C4 on the right time and you are done. Then when you climbing through the first window of the big hall. Go along the wall to the other side of the hall where you can enter the room where the light switch is. Turn off the lights, go to the helicopter, throw an EMP grenade to left corner where the Exit is. If you threw it right the guards will go to that conrner. If not, you have to throw another EMP. Then you can plant your C4. I think it's better when I show my walkthrough which isn't finished yet.

EDIT: Price Airfield is ready for Upload. It has one cut (between cutscene and actual gameplay) though so the video is under 15 minutes.
Yeah, the last guy near the computer is hard. Getting the guys away from the helicopter, all I do is shoot far away, so everyone starts moving, I plant the C4, and roll away!

Andre202
08-19-2010, 06:12 PM
Just so you know the Walkthrough is up. There is my solution to be as unnoticed as possible in this mission. I also added now a counter in the video discription. So you see with every video how much I killed, how much distractions...

- Splinter Cell Conviction - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 3. Price Airfield (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJlUwScAbQ4)

If there is a better solution to come through this mission then tell me and I will try to do it that way.

Andre202
08-24-2010, 01:55 PM
I don't like to make double posts but I would like to ask for advice making the Full Stealth Walkthrough of Kalinatek. My goal is the same as the on of 'the message': Having not that much KOs/Kills, distractions... . The thing is that some of his actions are questionable if they are still stealthy.

In Kalinatek at the last part where you are on the roof you have AI enemies that exactly know where you are. I can avoid the first three but the next three guys (one of them will be throwing grenades) are actually impossible to avoid. Now would it be more stealthy to kill these guys or just run through like 'the message' did it? I would like to know your answers since I am doing Full Stealth Walkthroughs and I want them to be perfect. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

codenameeric
08-24-2010, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by Andre202:
I don't like to make double posts but I would like to ask for advice making the Full Stealth Walkthrough of Kalinatek. My goal is the same as the on of 'the message': Having not that much KOs/Kills, distractions... . The thing is that some of his actions are questionable if they are still stealthy.

In Kalinatek at the last part where you are on the roof you have AI enemies that exactly know where you are. I can avoid the first three but the next three guys (one of them will be throwing grenades) are actually impossible to avoid. Now would it be more stealthy to kill these guys or just run through like 'the message' did it? I would like to know your answers since I am doing Full Stealth Walkthroughs and I want them to be perfect. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hmmm... I did that level without using any weapons, but arguably I wasn't very stealthy because the guys you mention saw me and I had to fight some of them.

I'd say that leaving a dead body (and hiding it) is more stealthy than leaving a witness who can identify you.

Andre202
08-24-2010, 03:17 PM
Ahh ok.

Well I actually don't want to kill them so I thought I would use the sticky shockers. The thing is I don't want to use gadgets either. Perhaps I will do one video where I kill them and another where I will use the gadgets.

Sarapion
10-14-2010, 07:51 PM
Here's another stealthrough of the co-op. this is st. petersburg. we only kill whoever the game forces us to kill. we also do this level all in one go. no reloading checkpoints.

Tell me what you guys think.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ga...#p/a/u/1/xI2BE42CT6o (http://www.youtube.com/user/gamingwalkthrough102#p/a/u/1/xI2BE42CT6o)

Jazz117Volkov
10-15-2010, 08:38 AM
Anyone know what happened to ShadowFox?
I haven't seen him around here in ages.

Andre202
10-15-2010, 01:56 PM
I don't know what happened to him but I am wondering too...

The Coop Walkthrough is very good. I have planned to do such a Walkthrough from both perspectives so both will be recording the game.

Since I am here, I make an update about my progress of my Full Stealth Walkthrough Project:

Splinter Cell Conviction

SinglePlayer Story:
- Splinter Cell Conviction - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 1. Merchant's Street Market (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkgdtFC-Sfk)

- Splinter Cell Conviction - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 2. Kobin's Mansion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghs5sLMiKuE)

- Splinter Cell Conviction - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 3. Price Airfield (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJlUwScAbQ4)

- Splinter Cell Conviction - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 4. Diwaniya, Iraq (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX3PwOnwF1w)

- Splinter Cell Conviction - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 5. Washington Monument (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efThzOEwrhY)
...


Coop Story:
- Splinter Cell Conviction - Full Stealth Coop Walkthrough - 1. St. Petersburg Banya [Part 1] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJUiXJ7P1AQ)
- Splinter Cell Conviction - Full Stealth Coop Walkthrough - 1. St. Petersburg Banya [Part 2] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUPa5cfKLWc)
...


Deniable Ops:
- Splinter Cell Conviction - Full Stealth Walkthrough - Hunter: San Francisco, CA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3WOUeD3OMQ)

- Splinter Cell Conviction - Full Stealth Walkthrough - Hunter: Portland, ME (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRkxB3ViCGI)

- Splinter Cell Conviction - Full Stealth Walkthrough - Hunter: New Orleans, LA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ41Hy9vvvE)

- Splinter Cell Conviction - Full Stealth Walkthrough - Hunter: Salt Lake City, UT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcIe_wPhEEY)

- Splinter Cell Conviction - Full Stealth Walkthrough - Hunter: St. Petersburg Banya (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06ZMJ7LT5Ac)
...



Splinter Cell Chaos Theory

- Splinter Cell Chaos Theory - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 1. Lighthouse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhLXZ279gG8)
...



Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow

- Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 1. Dili, Ottimor [Part 1] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f_XKs65Xm4)
- Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 1. Dili, Ottimor [Part 2] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn41HuJd1Rs)
...



Splinter Cell

- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - Training (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63ba098C88I)

- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 1. T'Bilisi Police Station (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFRn9sCvrdI)

- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 2. Defense Ministry (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkY_Tim9NW8)

- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 3. Oil Refinery (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5u0-fN99q4)

- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 4. CIA HQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AonOm6f_xs)

- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 5. Kalinatek [Part 1] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrOreqY8aIc)
- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 5. Kalinatek [Part 2] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQqgfxEgWDw)

- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 6. Chinese Embassy [Part 1] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FnjjwY_Ho4)
- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 6. Chinese Embassy [Part 2] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfWjN2g2Y9k)
...

Seosan
10-18-2010, 11:25 AM
Have you got any other co-op videos?

Andre202
10-18-2010, 12:50 PM
If you meant me, no I haven't because I need someone with a good computer and who doesn't live far away.

Sarapion
10-18-2010, 02:46 PM
if you meant me. i plan on doing yastreb and mozdok sometime soon. it's just trying to do each level all in one go and thus not loading checkpoints is rather hard to do. so i'm trying to get it done. i just needed a little break after doing russian embassy 10-15 times trying not to get a single detection.

Seosan
10-18-2010, 04:30 PM
Looking forward to more co-op walkthroughs from either of you.

kipphopopotomus
11-11-2010, 12:55 AM
Wow Andre, your stealthrough of the Chinese Embassy really helped a lot, that was always the hardest level for me.

Andre202
11-11-2010, 06:17 AM
Originally posted by kipphopopotomus:
Wow Andre, your stealthrough of the Chinese Embassy really helped a lot, that was always the hardest level for me.
No problem, though I think the next level is much more harder then the Chinese Embassy that's why I am stuck at uploading new videos because it gets very difficult to do the Walkthroughs in one playthrough. For example I could have uploaded Whitebox mission of SCC months ago but I am doing the impossible possible. So when downloading the data, all enemies will knocked out. No pistol, no gadgets, everything in one playthrough. It's a big challenge for me but I am optimistic that I will be able to do this.

oO_ShadowFox_Oo
11-26-2010, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Jazz_117:
Anyone know what happened to ShadowFox?
I haven't seen him around here in ages.

LOL

I've been tied up in my Masters and my job and then I moved house to a place with no internetz. Not a great way to improve your post count on forums I tell you!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Will update this thread now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Nice work Andre!

KenTWOu
12-17-2010, 01:30 PM
This is walkthrough (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clhVrerbIo0) of just one checkpoint of Downtown District level from SC Conviction. But I think, that it will be interesting to watch it anyway. I spent few hours to find this way through it, that's why I like this part of the level very much and that's why I made this video.

And for the record: yes, I know that you can pass through all enemies without noticing during this checkpoint but I prefer to use hand-to-hand knockouts, that's why I even holster my weapon here.

Andre202
01-15-2011, 02:32 AM
Making this thread alive again:

- Splinter Cell Conviction - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 1. Merchant's Street Market (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkgdtFC-Sfk)

- Splinter Cell Conviction - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 2. Kobin's Mansion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghs5sLMiKuE)

I know I have posted them already but they are completely new with better Quality and a better Full Stealth Walkthrough, avoiding even more. Enjoy it in Fullscreen if you wish. Third and Fifth Mission will be coming soon, Irak is uploading now (also a better result then before).

sameer_monier
01-15-2011, 05:03 AM
I wonder if i can upload a mission of CT that has been done before, can i ?!, cause i want to share my walkthrough after my exams http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Andre202
01-15-2011, 07:12 AM
Irak is now Online, better then ever. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

- Splinter Cell Conviction - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 4. Diwaniya, Iraq (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX3PwOnwF1w)

Jazz117Volkov
01-15-2011, 07:43 AM
Yo Andre, that seems to be Merchant Street Market not Diwaniya, Iraq.

Andre202
01-15-2011, 08:23 AM
Fixed Link.

sam2000_290
01-15-2011, 02:46 PM
Pretty good Andre202, definitely more stealthy than I was. Very good.

During the Kobin's mansion level, you like closing doors too? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

And you could leave the last two guards before facing Kobin. Then again, when facing Kobin, those two guards will come in.

And Sam looks like a spider when he is climbing on ledges and windows. It's creepy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

No airfield level? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif


And no offense, it's a little awkward hearing Kobin laugh, it's in a different language. No offense again, no bashing on German but just a little awkward.

How do you know some are kills? Some KO's may be kills.

BTW, what graphics card do you have?

I didn't know youtube allows videos to go beyond 13 mins. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Andre202
01-15-2011, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by sam2000_290:
Pretty good Andre202, definitely more stealthy than I was. Very good.

During the Kobin's mansion level, you like closing doors too? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

And you could leave the last two guards before facing Kobin. Then again, when facing Kobin, those two guards will come in.

And Sam looks like a spider when he is climbing on ledges and windows. It's creepy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

No airfield level? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif


And no offense, it's a little awkward hearing Kobin laugh, it's in a different language. No offense again, no bashing on German but just a little awkward.

How do you know some are kills? Some KO's may be kills.

BTW, what graphics card do you have?

I didn't know youtube allows videos to go beyond 13 mins. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
Airfield is already on. On Page 4 you can view the first 5 missions. I just remade 1,2,4 because I could do them better. Wanted to do that for 3 and 5 too but their actually already as good as it can be, at least I don't see where I could do better.
I am closing doors because I play Stealth that way: I leave the place how I first met it.
The three persons before Kobin's room will storm his room when all of the guards in that room are dead, just as you said.

I don't know which are really kills but the game defines that every takedown is a Kill. So I wrote Kills/(KO's): ...

Youtube does allow now every user who haven't done any problems regarding the copyright to do as long videos as they can in a 2GB file. So I can upload 30 minutes with such a high quality. The quality is also a reason why I did the missions again, if you watch old version and new version in fullscreen, you will see a big difference.

sam2000_290
01-15-2011, 05:27 PM
Okay, pretty good. For the Kobin's Mansion, after you drop down from the pipe, I didn't know you can just back to wall and sneak pass the guy without him looking. I had to wait till he looks off to the side so I can get pass.

I don't know if anyone got this "cheat" or good way to avoid all guards in the Lincoln Memorial mission. After the chase, go to the place where the Secret Service will pick you up. The place by the bridge. Just stay there by the wall, and always, no guards will come there. Just some hints to point out. Ah, hint is the right word.

I saw your airfield video. In the beginning, I had a different way to distracting the guards. I shot in the hanger area where I came from. This way the guards won't be the stairs place. I have more options to get in. Take the stairs or the window. Pretty good though but just wanted to point out my way was a little different.

I am telling you, this game is very difficult to run and gun. I did this on realistic. Maybe b/c I am not an expert on this. I die so much in that airfield mission. Wow!


BTW, you wanna do coop with me?

Andre202
01-15-2011, 06:27 PM
Yes on PC, it's AndrejFisher. You can PM me.

sam2000_290
01-15-2011, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by Andre202:
Yes on PC, it's AndrejFisher. You can PM me.

I don't understand for PC? I will PM you soon.


@sameer_monier

Sure, I guess so. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Andre202
03-08-2011, 09:32 AM
Deniable Ops:
- Splinter Cell Conviction - Full Stealth Walkthrough - Hunter: San Francisco, CA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3WOUeD3OMQ)

- Splinter Cell Conviction - Full Stealth Walkthrough - Hunter: Portland, ME (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRkxB3ViCGI)
...

KenTWOu
05-22-2011, 09:26 AM
Find the way (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6hn1b2JSGM) to clear area around the first generator in Michigan Ave Reservoir level. Knock out all enemies without M&E. It's really hard cause level designers literally force you to use mark and execute feature and limit your stealth options.

Andre202
05-22-2011, 09:51 AM
Very nice. Do the NPCs talk russian or isn't there any voice over at all? I heard the russian version of SCDA, very nice job with the voices. Is there a way to get the russian text and voice packages for the previous Splinter Cell titles?

BTW: The problem in New Orleans was reported to the dev team, but there is no guarantee they will make a patch.

KenTWOu
05-22-2011, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by Andre202:
Very nice.
Thanks! By the way, I added few annotations to the video.


Originally posted by Andre202:
Do the NPCs talk russian or isn't there any voice over at all?
Nope. Only few russian curses in co-op campaign, but of course this is work of Ubisoft Montreal.


Originally posted by Andre202:
Is there a way to get the russian text and voice packages for the previous Splinter Cell titles?
I don't know about the legal way to do this online. If these games wasn't so old, I think it will be easy to purchase them digitally.


Originally posted by Andre202:
BTW: The problem in New Orleans was reported to the dev team, but there is no guarantee they will make a patch.
Good news everyone! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D1cap6yETA) At least they know about it and won't do it again. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Waiting your videos!

Andre202
05-22-2011, 11:29 AM
I forgot some videos:

Deniable Ops:
- Splinter Cell Conviction - Full Stealth Walkthrough - Hunter: New Orleans, LA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ41Hy9vvvE)

- Splinter Cell Conviction - Full Stealth Walkthrough - Hunter: Salt Lake City, UT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcIe_wPhEEY)



Chaos Theory:
- Splinter Cell Chaos Theory - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 1. Lighthouse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhLXZ279gG8)
...

Andre202
01-22-2012, 09:26 PM
After a few months of problems to properly record Full Stealth Walkthroughs, I took the decision to relaunch the project. There are several advantages which let me choose this decision:

- Better Video Quality!
- Full Stealth Walkthroughs won't be devided in parts anymore!
- Overall a better Full Stealth result
- The possibility to make Commentaries

I was also planning to do English Commentaries but I am not sure if I will do so. I will do German Commentaries for sure.
Well, here are the first two videos:

Splinter Cell:

- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - Training (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63ba098C88I)

- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 1. T'Bilisi Police Station
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFRn9sCvrdI)
- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 2. Defense Ministry (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkY_Tim9NW8)

- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 3. Oil Refinery (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5u0-fN99q4)

KenTWOu
06-15-2012, 12:17 AM
Find a way to distract enemies with sticky cam and knock them out at the beginning of Michigan Ave Reservoir before Black Arrow officer interrogation.

http://youtu.be/oIutoOhU7dg

Andre202
06-15-2012, 01:17 PM
Nice!

Have another walkthrough, it's a bit older already:

- Splinter Cell - Full Stealth Walkthrough - 4. CIA HQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AonOm6f_xs)

KenTWOu
06-24-2012, 09:46 PM
The second part of the Washington Monument, ghosting without EMP.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_YIgqitYEM

Didn't know it's possible. Always knock out the guy at 1:32 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_YIgqitYEM&feature=player_detailpage#t=92s).

sameer_monier
06-25-2012, 12:41 AM
The second part of the Washington Monument, ghosting without EMP.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_YIgqitYEM

Didn't know it's possible. Always knock out the guy at 1:32 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_YIgqitYEM&feature=player_detailpage#t=92s).
WOW MAN, that is pretty AWESOME.

Cheers.

Dieinthedark
06-25-2012, 09:58 PM
Wow, that was awesome! Who would have guessed!

KenTWOu
06-26-2012, 06:06 PM
Michigan Ave Reservoir (second checkpoint - EMP testing room - stealth realistic difficulty)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hba50vOj4zM

P.S: sometimes death from above trick doesn't work :(

KenTWOu
06-27-2012, 10:59 AM
This is really strong stuff here! Michigan Ave Reservoir, the 3rd checkpoint, I rescued the scientist with bare hands and death from above, one shoot bulb and two sticky cams! But with one very important trick in the middle of it, You should make a little distraction (2:40 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9tD0SSWvPH4#t=160s)) or guards around scientist won't take necessary positions!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tD0SSWvPH4

KenTWOu
06-27-2012, 02:27 PM
Find the way (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6hn1b2JSGM) to clear area around the first generator in Michigan Ave Reservoir level. Knock out all enemies without M&E. It's really hard cause level designers literally force you to use mark and execute feature and limit your stealth options.

Significantly faster riskier version of that video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTxy257xtzk

KenTWOu
06-27-2012, 05:23 PM
OK, this is the last one! :) Michigan Ave Reservoir, the 6th checkpoint - the hangar just before that infamous helicopter action sequence.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9N0_3bj0pg

oO_ShadowFox_Oo
09-09-2012, 05:20 PM
Andre, have you got a location where all of your stealthrough's are listed?

It seems I forgot to update the OP a while back and might as well do it now!

I'd rather not slug through all the posts, so if you have a list already arranged somewhere that'd be awesome (because I'm feeling lazy), otherwise I'll just update it manually.

Andre202
09-09-2012, 05:50 PM
It's here! (http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/337675-The-Stealthrough-Thread?p=2870713&viewfull=1#post2870713)

RaulO4
10-05-2012, 12:33 PM
If you meant me, no I haven't because I need someone with a good computer and who doesn't live far away.....my pc will be here in a week, maybe i can help with the co op?

but live in the us lol

Dome500
05-15-2013, 03:31 PM
nice thread, haven't seen that one before ;)

I am planning on playing every game again before Blacklist, so I might make some stealth troughs as well^^. Though mine will really just be without M&E.
As to the rest. I am trying to be not detected, shoot lights out and mess with the AI a little :)

As for a ghost through. I might come back on that later (as far as you can make one with Conviction)