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Sidmo
09-29-2005, 04:49 AM
The other week when I went out to the gun show and bought my first k98 I met a very interesting individual. He was selling a large collection of original WW2 photos.

We got talking about the photos and he asked if I had heard of the German Nuclear sub which was caught off of Newfoundland. Obviously I said no. So he went on and started telling me that the Germans had indeed gained nuclear power, and incorporated it into a sub.

Now at the time I dident believe a word he was saying. But then he showed me an interesting picture. It was in black and white and it showed 3 Canadian soldiers pointing their rifles at what looks like man who's blind folded and wearing a Kriegsmarine Uniform, I can't tell what his rank is, nor if he is an officer or enlisted man.

He told me that the entire crew of the Sub was executed after being interogated. The Sub was aparantley caught on the surface, off the coast of Newfoundland by a RCAF patrol plane.

So...should I be believing this story? Or should I be sending this story off to Crackpottheories.com?

blue_76
09-29-2005, 04:55 AM
crackpottheorıe.com is the answer. germans were close to developing an atomic bomb.. but a nuclear submarine at the time makes captain nemo sound more realistic.

Sidmo
09-29-2005, 05:17 AM
Well this is how I look at it.

Even though the Germans heavy water plants were destroyed in Norway, and their atomic research facilities targeted time and time again. They still had friends in Sweden, and Spain.

Both countries were obviously pro-Germany during the war, and it's not impossible that German used the countries as a staging point for some of it's research and possible production.

W.Irving
09-29-2005, 05:41 AM
Sweden, Spain and Switzerland were no more pro-German than we were pro-British. Rather difficult to remain neutral when both sides secretly want to invade you.
And none of these nations had any fission power research facilities either. Simply impossible.

Gunnersman
09-29-2005, 05:51 AM
Originally posted by Sidmo:
The other week when I went out to the gun show and bought my first k98 I met a very interesting individual. He was selling a large collection of original WW2 photos.

We got talking about the photos and he asked if I had heard of the German Nuclear sub which was caught off of Newfoundland. Obviously I said no. So he went on and started telling me that the Germans had indeed gained nuclear power, and incorporated it into a sub.

Now at the time I dident believe a word he was saying. But then he showed me an interesting picture. It was in black and white and it showed 3 Canadian soldiers pointing their rifles at what looks like man who's blind folded and wearing a Kriegsmarine Uniform, I can't tell what his rank is, nor if he is an officer or enlisted man.

He told me that the entire crew of the Sub was executed after being interogated. The Sub was aparantley caught on the surface, off the coast of Newfoundland by a RCAF patrol plane.


aaah
AAAH
AAAH
***sneezBULL****sneeze******

Excuse me! Must be something in the air.

doug.d
09-29-2005, 05:51 AM
Originally posted by Sidmo:
The other week when I went out to the gun show and bought my first k98
Nice, I have a Mauser "Obendorff" .22 Sporting rifle, approx. 1935, model 410B with 'mini
K98' action.... beautiful. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Only trouble is, with the draconian new gun laws in South Africa, my best bet is probably just to destroy it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Overview.jpg

TheRealWulfmann
09-29-2005, 08:02 AM
I had dinner with 2 Capetown politicians a few years back. They were worse that the apartied guys, IMO.
I suggest you immigrate, I definitely would!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

I have a CZ-452V in 22LR. It is made with the mini Mauser action as well. I had a MAS-45 in 22LR. Those were Mauser training rifles made in a factory set up in France by Mauser and the French added a magazine well for a 5RND clip for their traning rifle after the war. Sold it and wish I hadn€t. Still have 3 magazine for it but it is a hard gun to find. Great actions.
Too bad you could not get that out of the country somehow (legally, of course) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

German scientist could have given Hitler the bomb before us but they had the sense to know what a demon he was. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif
One said €œThat maniac would actually use this and will not have Germany be the one to unleash this on the world.€

Thanks for that, we all know that is our job!!! LOL

As each scientist came to the other€s conclusions, they would realize what was up and agree with the last a bomb would have to be too big to transport and it was nuclear energy where the promise was to be had.
It is Ironic that some of the material €œ234€ was turned over to us by a U-Boat (U-235) after Germany surrendered and used in the bombs against Japan. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif
The U-Boat was on its way to Japan to deliver it.
We completed their mission!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Wulfmann

lecek
09-29-2005, 08:50 AM
Crackpot.

Germany didn't even have the bomb. It had a programme but it was far behind the allies.

Why would a nuclear sub be found on the surface? Even for oxygen they would only need a snorkle.

What proof does he have. A picture of a guy in uniform. So? I have been to the moon! See I have pictures of my cat in what looks like my living room.

TheRealWulfmann
09-29-2005, 09:03 AM
Germany never came close to having a bomb. The German scientist had the sense to make sure of that.
That is not to critize those in the US as they would have no reason to believe there were men of conscience where there was a regime that had none.

Wulfmann

Celeon999
09-29-2005, 11:26 AM
Congratulations on your K98k. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Is it an original or new made one ?

I squezed in a few shots at the firing range with mine a few weeks ago. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Took me a lot of time to repair it.


About this nuclear sub thing : I never heard of that.

Logically it cant be true because a working nuclear drive is a more complex thing than a working nuclear detonation device.


About this a-bomb thing i would advise to read this article.

Germanys nuclear program was behind ,but not so far behind the manhattan project as assumed.

Without Heisenbergs research to the fill the gaps of the manhattan project and the captured uranium oxid aboard U-234 Oppenheimer would had needed additional 6 to 12 months to complete the trinity bomb.

Some people believe that Heisenberg delayed the development of the german a-bomb because during his research he realized what horrific weapon it would become as soon as it is finished.

A fact Oppenheimer first realized after the detonation of the trinity device.


Werner Heisenberg and the german nuclear project during WW2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Heisenberg)

XDRHicks
09-29-2005, 11:40 AM
Nuclear sub thing is very unlikely, as bombs is as far as anyone got, even then the whole thing was new and control of the reaction was even considered from my understanding. The americans were uterlly unaware of the real power they were gonna drop, possibly why they did it again to make sure it wasnt a fluke...

Im not saying it did or didnt happen, alot went non of us will ever learn of...but from a historical/scientific/technological point of view, it was unlikely

As for things that fire, I use a hoyt 2k3 versacam cybertec, bet im more accurate with that than any of you with rifles http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Dizyer
09-29-2005, 04:24 PM
I highly doubt that the Germans had Nuclear subs but it is true that they came sorta close in creating a "Dirty Bomb". Of course as you probably know the dirty bomb isn't really an A-bomb but is a big bomb covered in plutonium(I think). The Germans even had the Japanese working on a "Dirty Bomb". Those germans are a tricky bunch though, first flying saucers and now Nuclear subs http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

WilhelmSchulz.-
09-29-2005, 05:12 PM
The one thing that gives it away, It was captured on the surface. What the **** would a nuke be doing on the surface???

Sidmo
09-29-2005, 08:31 PM
Yah, more than likely the guy was trying to sell his product. Can you blame him though? :P

Anyways, you guys asked if my K98 was original.

Well yes it is. But it was captured or bought by the Yugo's and re-issued. Most of the original markings are there, and so are the Whermachtstamps or whatever it is. (The QC marks)

Celeon999
10-01-2005, 03:39 AM
OT:

What did you payed for your K98k ?

It is propably the number one collectors weapon world wide today (no wonder with 14 million of them build in the last 80 years http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ) and if you like i can give you some information about.

The prize and the overall worth of the weapon differs greatly in producer , time of production and other small details.

All i need is some pics of the weapon and i need to know what the producer markings on it are like.

Most important is the manufacturers code on the top of bullet chamber.