Is anyone gonna stop it?

[santiaguet]

I'm just disappointed of what's going on in far cry community.

Is that difficult to do something against the cheats that have been spreaded at our community?

It's so obvious that many people are cheating at PB protected servers, and new pb config is not stopping it. I know it because i played against a guy that was using that well known cheat at a pb protected server, my server. He just wanted to demonstrate me that it was perfectly possible, and he did.

Radar hack, no recoil, aimbot, binos when respawning (didn't matter if he was playing engineer) lines to the sky to know the possition and movements opponents were doing and some kind of visible lines around the body to shoot even when you are hiding between bushes....and of course, zoom x16 with ag36 and oicw.

Yes, take a screenshot and submit it to evenbalance or wherever, but if they are just using no recoil or the aimbot you are not gonna see anything there

And now, the new c++ based hack, well, i understand that this one is a new one, but the other one was the same one used with 1.31. wtf?

I'm really, really, really fed up of playing against people that is obviously cheating and, i don't find that difficult to stop a hack that is one year old taking into account that is a .pak file that has to be put at fcdata. Yes!!! one extra file there and that's it, u got it!

will patch 1.4 do anything to stop it? will pb? will evenbalance?

bah!

[CuZtds_Lst_Stnd]

The last month has seen an 50% increase in the number of people on the Punksbusted MBL.
This has been achieved through EB PB tweeks, new hashes and Clans making the effort to sign up.

The servers running PB where cheats are not being detected need to check their configs...
Sadly the biggest offender in this area is UBI..
All currently "known" hax are detected by Punkbuster.

If you are aware of a new version, please either email evenbalance or feel free to pass me details via a PM, Im sure u understand I dont want links to hax posted here http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

CuZ

[santiaguet]

Of course i would never post here that s**** to let someone (else) download it and come f****** my game more than it is.

I can send you that s*** if you give me your email.

This one has been tested against me at 5 different servers, always password protected and with only me and the cheater inside.

Of course those were friend's servers and my own servers. I know also that some clan leaders have tested it at their servers with no kicks

If finally you realize that just changing something at pb config it can be detected, i would really, really would appreciate if you could tell me the way to do it at our servers.

So, just gimme ur email and i'll send it to you.

Thanks.

[slayersofadmin]

are u saying u know where he got the cheat from then send it to punksbusted so they can learn how to detect it. or send to me and Ill give it to punksbusted or send to Docseal or one of the moderators like coops or Grimphyre who is a moderator at punksbusted.
It does no good to complain about it and then take no action yourself!
Remember that is how punkbuster learns about new cheats is from the people who play games
and run the servers.And has it been tested against a server that is streaming?
Not just a server that has pb running,as most servers that are not streaming are most likely way out of date.
If u have his guid also oor ip send that also to punksbusted.along with any proof u have that he is using a hack.
I finally went the pb way and have had my server streaming for the last month as there are too many hacks out there now.

[CuZtds_Lst_Stnd]

or one of the moderators like coops or Grimphyre who is a moderator at punksbusted.
Have I done something to upset you slayer?


This one has been tested against me at 5 different servers, always password protected and with only me and the cheater inside.

@santiaguet: How are they getting access to the server if it is password protected? Are you giving them access? I am confused here please explain.

As for the link send it to me via PM (personal message) on this forum. New hax will always be busted and for all the cheats know, EB may have been working on this one for some time already...
They will get a nasty surprise when the detection is launched. A surprise that would be greater if all servers streamed to the punksbusted MBL..

CuZ

[frodo_lives]

hey cuz, i think he is inviting the guy to show him that the hack isn't detectable. so he let's him use his server that is locked. and it's only the two of them playing while he does it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

later
frodo

[CuZtds_Lst_Stnd]

In which case he is mixing with the wrong type, but he should have the cheaters guid...

Appart from that you dont invite a thief into your house then complain when they steal stuff...

CuZ

[eightsixlife]

thats one thing ive never understood....theres guys walking through walls and standing on top of cliffs ( outside of maps)...im sorry- im new..**** hackers.

[frodo_lives]

Originally posted by CuZtds_Lst_Stnd:
In which case he is mixing with the wrong type, but he should have the cheaters guid...

Appart from that you dont invite a thief into your house then complain when they steal stuff...

CuZ

it's me again cuz.

i'm not sure it's what you think. maybe this guy just wanted to show him that the hack isn't being caught yet, or that this particular hack is possible on PB??

eightsixlife: there are maps that don't have ... **** i forgot the word. but they are designed that way.
but the standing on top of cliffs- if the person looks they are flickering i believe it's called "glitching" and that isn't not supposed be allowed on PB servers. makes them **** near impossible to kill.

later
frodo

[CuZtds_Lst_Stnd]

Frodo, that is possible... But in that case he has given a hacker a free test gound...
We shouldnt second guess what happened or his motives, I am sure he will post back and clarify things....

Hills: If you mean people getting out of the standard area of the map, that is not hacking and in Europe is not even considered cheating. The play area is surrounded by an invisible barrier or "collision wall". Objects like rocks rockets and grenades cannot pass through it, but bullets can.
Due to errors in the level design there are gaps in surrounding walls at certain spots in the map where a player can get through.
PB cannot prevent this as you are simply taking advantage of the map area..

CuZ

[slayersofadmin]

quote:
or one of the moderators like coops or Grimphyre who is a moderator at punksbusted.

Have I done something to upset you slayer?

no sorry cuz didnt mean to forget u I meant moderators in general,exactly my sentiments on it he is allowing the guy to test his hacks on a pb enabled server which doesnt help the community in anyway,as now the guy definitely knows it works on a pb enabled server that most likely is not streaming.
I do think it is time for most of the clans to start streaming as there are just to many hacks out there.
But I know it will never hapen as pb and farcry dont set well together I mean the netcoding not the people.
But if we can get most of the servers streaming and get the public servers streaming then we would be doing good.or even just get 90% of the clans streaming then thats good as we can avoid the public servers,and let the cheats have an empty server to cheat on.not that I like that idea but better than nothing.

[kozzmozz7]

I think that cheating -how sadly it is- can't be stopped.

In every game there are cheats, trainers, hacks, despite efforts like punkbuster, vac, CD,..
The developers are always a step ahead, so whats the use? if no one does anything bout it, then they stop making sequels of their trainer etc.
The only thing the devs can do in my opinion is make cheatprograms and spread them well on the net. If pple google for it that they can find what they searched for.
Now the devs have the control of it and can ban him by using a script from that cheat the minute he joins a server. Banned for X years. that will make him think the next time he will try to "search" for a cheat.

[porky01]

@ santiaguet: ask this guy to come to my house...22ndSAS server...if he thinks it is undetectable...then we will see! If he gets away with it then u are right...if he dont then your PB sets are wrong!

@ I know what ya gonna say Cuz...but i'm confident in Ice and Grump's work and the help they have had from the outside world!

@kozzmozz7 I hear what ya saying m8...all clans and pb servers should stream to the MBL! It would help lots!...Including UbiServers.

so what ya say santiaguet? Is he confident enuf http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

[slugworth01]

There is a way to get new hacks detected by PB ... http://www.evenbalance.com/index.php?page=info.php ... if your hacking friend has given you a copy of a new cheat, send it to Evenbalance. This worked pretty quickly with the last round of zaehp - once the cheat was sent to Evenbalance, that is.

[IceT-Bag]

Originally posted by porky01:
@ santiaguet: ask this guy to come to my house...22ndSAS server...if he thinks it is undetectable...then we will see! If he gets away with it then u are right...if he dont then your PB sets are wrong!

@ I know what ya gonna say Cuz...but i'm confident in Ice and Grump's work and the help they have had from the outside world!
...

Bear in mind our server streams to the PB MBL, as well as sharing our ban list with numerous EU clans.

[CuZtds_Lst_Stnd]

@ I know what ya gonna say Cuz...but i'm confident in Ice and Grump's work and the help they have had from the outside world!
Porky, lets just say that within minutes of this thread being posted Ice and I were discussing it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

There are a few things I find strange here, including why someone with over 50 posts, mostly about MP cheating, would suddenly start posting under a new ID?

Santiaguet:
If you need me to resend you details of your original account please let me know.

As for inviting a cheater on to your server, there will always be windows of time when a cheat is new that people can get away with it.

Instead of challenging the writer of the hack, I would sooner let them publish their hax, and see EB, Ice, Grumpy and others quitely put the detection in place, flick the switch and send the users straight onto the MBL list.

CuZ

[porky01]

Originally posted by IceT-Bag:
Bear in mind our server streams to the PB MBL, as well as sharing our ban list with numerous EU clans.

Shhhhhhhhhhh....oh did i forget to mention that... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif me bad http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

[dj_psyx]

ROFL Porks! Mwuuaaaaahhaaahaaahahaaa ban all the haxor f&*(&^'s!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

(GJ 22nd!)

[kingzac]

Here in UBW, Achilles or myself check our PB logs daily for any new kicks.Also i check 22nd's public ban list on a regular basis for any new bans they have and add them to our ever growing list(70+ people now i think banned on the UBW server).
What people must remember, is that you don't have to cheat to get banned from a clan server.If you don't play by their rules ie: No swearing , Teamkilling on purpose or just not playing fair, this can also earn you a ban.

If you want a good fair game, i would stick to clan server's when there is 1 or more members of that clan are playing.This way they will police the server and try and make it a plesant experience for all while playing(no disrespect to UBI server's).

Greets KZ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

[dj_psyx]

Did someone say UBW?! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif hehe! A most pleasant time can be had on said server, come join and experience the beautiful new EU maps http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Soroc]

After the first 18-24 months of a new game's lifecycle, if the community cannot create a safe playing environment, the game is dead. The reason is that the original publisher is no longer making enough money off the game to make it a priority. Look at older games like Ghost Recon, Raven Shield, or others from that same era as examples. Some lived, some died. All based on community support.

Cheating in GR was managed much like the tactic mentioned in this thread - shared banlists. Folks figured out pretty fast that if they didn't behave in the community, they wouldn't be able to play there any more. It worked.

So the responsibility for maintaining a playable community rests with...the community. Whining about the publishers and the developers is a waste of time. They are busy on the next game...as you should want them to be.

[porky01]

Kz's got it most clan servers "when they have a member on" will police it enuff so u get a decent game! Plus u get the added benefit of maybe not being shot whilst T-Baggin http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

[IceT-Bag]

Originally posted by porky01:
...Plus u get the added benefit of maybe not being shot whilst T-Baggin http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

...and at the end of the day, multiplayer is all about the t'baggin http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Ignabold]

Originally posted by porky01:
...but i'm confident in Ice and Grump's work and the help they have had from the outside world!


Nothing to do with me, I just check the logs http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif It's all down to Ice and Co. in the anti cheat fraternity

Grumpy

[santisan]

Hi again, i didnt realize i was posting with another id. Sorry i couldnt post before.

Yes, the guy was invited by me to check if he could use the cheat there. Yes, he could and yes, i have the file. The server was password protected

I know almost nothing about hacks, scripts and things like this. I barely can install the game and run it. The file is "BASED" on the second version of the p**** hack, as far as i know and it works at our servers without kicks of any kind.

As you say, i'll send it to evenbalance but if any admin here, able to work with it to help it be detected wants the file, just give me an email direction by PM and i'll send it.

Of course i would like to know how to stop this hack in my servers cause i don't know if there's a missconfiguration at our pb or whatever. What im not gonna do is to go test it in a public/clan server.

The only thing i want is to help, and that's it

cu

[IceT-Bag]

Its best to pass all 'suspect' files straight to evenbalance (research@evenbalance.com) as PB runs silent checks and anyone 'testing' it may get detected and banned.

Theres also several anti-cheat members who frequent cheater/hacker sites based on FarCry to keep upto date with things. Sure new hacks will work when first released, but it wont be long before they are stopped, and then the hack/stop-hack circle begins again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[santisan]

I have just sent it, thanks.

[Prometheus5109]

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif Cheating is becoming a big problem, the best thing you can do it to foward all files to the IGCA as punkbuster does not care about ubi.com games

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[CuZtds_Lst_Stnd]

Your post has been edited because your terms of reference claim that you violate Ubisofts terms of use in the same way that Phaez did.

I seriously suggest that no matter how well intentioned you may be, that you reconsider this policy...

CuZ