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Maraz_5SA
04-05-2006, 03:10 AM
Hi all,
here is my first attempt at a movie. It's a movie showing some missions of an Italian unit equipped of Ju.87 Stuka ("Picchiatello" for the Italians) that fought in North Africa in 1941.

Length about 10 min, size about 48 MB.

I could not get a truly smooth playing with my rigging (though all work was done at 1/2 speed), the initial "hazy" sequences were the most critical, but I decided to go on because it was useful in order to get some experience.

Now I have some experience and I know that a ten-minutes video needs tens of hours of hard work, so I don't know if I'll make another so soon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The movie can be downloaded at Savefile:

http://www.savefile.com/files/4180145

I tried to upload to Netwings but the file was not accepted because it was found to be the wrong file type "application/zip" (actually it is a plain .zip file - I cannot guess what can be wrong, maybe someone who as posted his movie to Netwings might give a hint)

I'll appreciate your feedback about this movie.
Thanks to all those in this forum who gave advice!

Cheers
Maraz

Maraz_5SA
04-05-2006, 03:10 AM
Hi all,
here is my first attempt at a movie. It's a movie showing some missions of an Italian unit equipped of Ju.87 Stuka ("Picchiatello" for the Italians) that fought in North Africa in 1941.

Length about 10 min, size about 48 MB.

I could not get a truly smooth playing with my rigging (though all work was done at 1/2 speed), the initial "hazy" sequences were the most critical, but I decided to go on because it was useful in order to get some experience.

Now I have some experience and I know that a ten-minutes video needs tens of hours of hard work, so I don't know if I'll make another so soon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The movie can be downloaded at Savefile:

http://www.savefile.com/files/4180145

I tried to upload to Netwings but the file was not accepted because it was found to be the wrong file type "application/zip" (actually it is a plain .zip file - I cannot guess what can be wrong, maybe someone who as posted his movie to Netwings might give a hint)

I'll appreciate your feedback about this movie.
Thanks to all those in this forum who gave advice!

Cheers
Maraz

Maraz_5SA
04-05-2006, 12:01 PM
I was reported that savefile.com seems to respond slowly and needs several attempts to actually start the download. But the movie is there, please keep trying ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Sorry for that... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Maraz

Monty-Dan
04-05-2006, 01:18 PM
Hi Maraz,

Just tried to download but the server it is on is "under repair"...i will try again later

Maonty-Dan

310th Falcon
04-05-2006, 01:31 PM
S` Maraz

You have done your homework. The video was clean and lag free.
I enjoy it and again great job for your first movie.
Looking forward to see future movies from you. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Best Regards

panzerd18
04-05-2006, 03:10 PM
Fileserver under maintenance for the next hour
Please try to download the file again in an hour


Sorry about all the problems this might cause you



Regards,
Savefile Support

310th Falcon
04-05-2006, 04:16 PM
S! Maraz

http://www.netwings.org/pages/default.asp?page=upload.htm

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Thank you for wanting to submit files to the Netwings File Library. Your contribution is much appreciated.
There are a number of rules that you need to follow to make things easier for everyone

* Please do not use spaces in file names
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We aim to process submissions within 24 hours but sometimes real life gets in the way so please be patient.

Try again Maraz http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif


Best Regards

Maraz_5SA
04-05-2006, 11:46 PM
Thanks for your feedback, Falcon!

About the Netwings rules for uploading, I read them and I double checked everything, my file is a plain .zip file but the software says it is "application/zip" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif and refuses it, LOL!

I wrote to the webmaster and on their forum but nothing happened yet.

Maraz

syd---
04-06-2006, 06:02 AM
That was very nice Maraz. I've seen some great shots. Especialy the ones where Ju's attack ship. The angles looked like taken from some kind of chronical movie http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Nice job. Only thing I would suggest is using better sound and music quality. I don't know what kind of input bitrate your music had, but it was definately too low.

Maraz_5SA
04-06-2006, 06:38 AM
You're right syd, they were old WAV files from the game "Steel Panthers World at War", each WAV file was around 10 Megs, so they were bad quality. They were also distorted so I had to low-pass filter them. But I liked the music http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Any source for good soundtracks around?

Maraz

Maraz_5SA
04-06-2006, 06:56 AM
Savefile seems to be working good today, anyway the file is now available also at up-file:

http://up-file.com/download/a83e6b568849/ju87-africa.zip.html

Maraz

syd---
04-06-2006, 07:04 AM
Every BIG movie and BIG game. For example in my "B-17" I used "Medal Of Honor Pacific Assault" and "Star Wars III" soundtracks. But you can use any orchestra-like music. Of course this is not a rule. If you watch "Ambush" by Maximum Bob then you notice completly diffrent style (70's) but in the end it works great. I personally think one should use only instrumental music (without any vocals). Aerobatic movies may be exceptions. But this is my opinion and you don't have to agree http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

panzerd18
04-06-2006, 06:55 PM
I really enjoyed it.

I like the bit at the end and the gun cam shots!


I have read a little book on the Stuka in North Africa. The Regia Aeronautica didn't have a very big force of them compared to the Luftwaffe. If I remember correctly the Ju-87s were actually directed by the Luftwaffe but managed and controlled by the Regia Aeronautica.

On one mixed mission of bith Regia Aeronautica and Luftwaffe Ju-87s they were attacking so target. The Luftwaffe pilots made their attack run and pulled out at 400 metres only to find the Regia Aeronautica Ju-87s no where to be seen! They were all over the place and out of formation. When they got back to base the Luftwaffe asked the Regia Aeronautica pilots what happened and it turns out the Regia Aeronautica pilots would drop their bombs at 2000 metres and then start to evade the flack while the Luftwaffe pilots would travel all the way down to 400 metres. After the next mission the Regia Aeronautica commander was seen to shake the Luftwaffe commanders hand and showning great happiness because now dropping at 400 metres they found it was a lot more accurate.

One question I have is why the germans didn't tell them earlier?

Maraz_5SA
04-07-2006, 12:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by panzerd18:
I really enjoyed it.

One question I have is why the germans didn't tell them earlier? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the positive feedback, Panzerd18.

About your little story, I believe it is one of the countless legends about Italian pilots and soldiers, that have no resemblance with reality.

Italian Stuka pilots were trained at the Stukaschule in Graz (Austria), the same place where German pilots were trained. They adopted the same taticts, that's why they could operate together with German units. So it's not thinkable that the did not know the optimal drop height.

I have found official records at the Historical Office of Italian AF showing that during their first missions the Italian pilots dropped at only 100m from the ground (this might be an exagerately low estimation but surely it's not 2000 m). I also found a record showing that, that after severe losses due to ground fire at Tobruk, the commander of 13th Air Division, Gen. Matricardi, expressely prohibited to drop below 800m, in order to try to limit losses.

You are right about the fact that much fewer Italian Stuka units than German ones operated in North Africa, usually no more than a Squadriglia (Staffel) or a Gruppo (Gruppe).

In general, when operating with the same aircraft and the same level of training, Italian pilots were absolutely no worse than German ones.

Maraz

Remus6S
04-07-2006, 03:18 AM
Great Movie Maraz!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

TWC_DARKANGEL
04-07-2006, 07:37 PM
Great movie. Please make more http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

panzerd18
04-09-2006, 08:25 AM
Thanks for the information.

Can the next one you make feature some nice Italian aircraft?

Maraz_5SA
04-09-2006, 08:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Monty-Dan:
Hi Maraz,

Just tried to download but the server it is on is "under repair"...i will try again later

Maonty-Dan </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Still no luck Monty?

I would appreciate much your feedback, I am sure there is something I could have done better http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Maraz