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HealingAura
04-21-2006, 11:47 AM
I love watching Anime! It's much better than the usual shows on TV and it looks great. Funny thing about anime is that when I (and all my friends) first heard of anime, we associated it with "childish" and "low quality" shows but we all changed our minds after watching our first Anime http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. It seems to me that we thought this way because of shows like pokemon that we hated so much.

I watched FullMetal Alchemist (my favorite Anime so far), and some others like Naruto, Bleach, Law of Ueki, Generator Gawl... (my friends watch even more than me). I recommend you to try out FullMetal Alchemist if you didn't watch it already (and even if you did http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif).

Anime Music Videos are great also so here are some AMV:
Alchemist's Trade (by TGProductions) (http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members/members_videoinfo.php?v=37424)
FMA Always Hardcore (by Nostromo) (http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members/members_videoinfo.php?v=67050)
Toushi (by Majin Kenshin) (http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members/members_videoinfo.php?v=34358)

Edit: I updated the links so now you enter the AMV page so you just scroll down and choose your download

You can get more Anime Music Videos in AnimeMusicVideos.org (http://www.animemusicvideos.org)

akito272927
04-21-2006, 12:46 PM
ahh the magic of anime...yes its great...if you can try to cowboy beebop, evangelion, gantz,vandread, martian succesor nadesico, this are afew quality shows !!!

HealingAura
04-21-2006, 01:23 PM
cowboy beebop is one of my friend's favorite anime but I didn't watch it yet. I'll try it out then http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

FCY-JMDK-WLKY
04-21-2006, 01:29 PM
Cowboy Bebop was cookass. You should definitely give it a try - both the series and the movie ("Knocking on Heaven's Door").

Another personal fav. is Rurouni Kenshin (or Samurai X if you want the English-dubbed version).

Ah the childhood memories ...

HealingAura
04-21-2006, 02:02 PM
By the way, if you want to watch Naruto make sure you won't watch the last season! It'll make you forget all the good episodes of Naruto. This Anime is a bit childish compared to others but everybody likes Naruto http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SandroTheMaster
04-21-2006, 08:56 PM
Interesting enough, an national RPG Magazine here made an adaptation of Fullmetal Alchemist this month, and the anime didn't even start here. It will be a month before it starts in Animax (paid TV channel in DirecTV, that is a bit more than I can afford http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif )
Here the most known anime is Zodiac Knights (assumong that this isn't the usual twisted translation from anime names), yep, that ol' anime.
From the adaptation it looks like Fullmetal Alchemist is interesting, but the "Alchemy Equal Trade principle" (again, if isn't a twisted translation) seems to be a bit too pretentious to me. With any luck it will start passing at Cartoon Network or even open channels... (Even I didn't believe that last one... Zodiac Knight is the most famous here because it is basically the only anime our open TV has...)

HealingAura
04-22-2006, 06:33 AM
Here are some more AMV:

FullMetal Destruction (by Ab-1) (http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members/members_videoinfo.php?v=42486)
Lost Soul (by inverse) (http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members/members_videoinfo.php?v=62674)
Right Now Someone Is Reading This Title (by dokidoki) (http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members/members_videoinfo.php?v=3684) <----- Very good!

Edit: I updated these links too

HealingAura
04-22-2006, 11:34 AM
I just noticed that some of the links don't work http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
You can find them in AnimeMusicVideos.org

RLHvanDijk
04-26-2006, 08:34 AM
just 2 weeks left and the fillers of naruto are over.
than the real storyline action is back
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

Madman_V3N0M
04-26-2006, 08:50 AM
ANIME!!! Love it! Best seen so far were Cowboy Bebop and Trigun(just seen a few episodes alredy fell in love). But I like almost any anime. I have seen Yu Yu Hakusho, Slayers, Full Metal Panic, Ghost Storyes, Kiddy Grade, Inuyasha etc.

maledicere
04-26-2006, 02:09 PM
My personal faves : Bleach and Fruit Basket

HealingAura
04-27-2006, 08:34 AM
Bleach is great but I only watched episodes 1-16 and I'll continue after Law of Ueki http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif (only one episode left http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

Originally posted by RLHvanDijk:
just 2 weeks left and the fillers of naruto are over.
than the real storyline action is back
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif
I'm soooo happy to hear that! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
The normal episodes are amazing - the story line and the abilities of every character very original. But the fillers always end with something stupid like wasting 3 episodes because Naruto farted http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif. I don't even want to watch them and I hope I won't have to. By the way, why does Naruto always say "datebayo" after every sentence? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

maledicere
04-27-2006, 09:35 AM
You should go check Prince of Persia General discussion forum , we already are at the second thread about animes , the main atraction is Bleach , very very cool storyline http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I started watching Naruto 2 weeks ago , i'm at episode 74 or 75 not sure ..but i'll catch up with you http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

I haven't reached the fillers but all fillers are bad , booring and ...bad in general http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

FoxHero
04-27-2006, 04:51 PM
Time to come up with something lesser know:

Kazemakase Tsukikage Ran

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsukikage_Ran
Short, fun, great animated. If you like female samurais that are actually cool, this is your anime.
Girl-safe, actually most girls will like this series if they can relate to a strong women type.


Hyper-Police
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_Police
pictures: http://www.darkharbor.com/noriko/hyperpolice/

An antromorph 25 part anime series that ran in the late evening window. If catgirls, werewolves and the assorted cast of japanese beast in a world where humans are an endangered species is you thing, this series is for you. Nice plotting, actually touches real life problems yet light air.
Not really sexist, girl safe. My sister watched all episodes and she is usually fickle about such things.


Two tips you might not find in every suggestion list ^^

Turgon_gr
04-28-2006, 03:47 AM
Originally posted by FCY-JMDK-WLKY:
Another personal fav. is Rurouni Kenshin (or Samurai X if you want the English-dubbed version).

Ah the childhood memories ...

Can't say I liked the series [the manga is way better] but the 1st OVA [Tsuiokuhen or Trust & Betrayal] is by far my favourite anime

Other ones that I liked were Berserk [read the manga, it's by far the best I've read], Elfen Lied, Chrno Crusade, Akira, Trigun, Bleach and Serial Experiments Lain.


datebayo

'Cause the Japanese find it cute :P (no offense)
It's something commonly used in many shows. A character looks cute if s/he finishes a sentence using a weird word or even speaks only that word http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif [i.e. Kenshin's "degozaru" or Lucy's-from Elfen Lied-"nyuu"]

RLHvanDijk
04-28-2006, 06:13 AM
yeah elfen lied is awesome but also freaky somethimes.
anyone is following eureka seven http://eurekaseven.bandai-ent.com/
its really a nice serie http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

FoxHero
04-29-2006, 02:34 PM
Interstella 5555 if you like something more experimental... weblink? Just look around. Let's simply say Daft Punk meets Leiji Matsumoto, literally http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

SandroTheMaster
04-29-2006, 03:51 PM
Off-topic:

Healing Aura, would you care to play Little Fighters 2 one day? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I just can't help it, I remember it every time I see your avatar. lol.

Infiltrator-SF
04-29-2006, 04:44 PM
I for one never liked Anime,

In my eyes, Walt Disney was the master of drawn animation, since I started drawing from a very little age, I kind of looked up to him and his work, it was very inspiring and it compleltly capured me.

I saw some anime, but it never impressed me, I just felt dissapointed more and more as I began to notice how often they are just repeating the same animations over and over and over, or the obscene amount of slo-mo scrolling, anyway, it all made the impression that too many shortcuts are taken when it comes to anime.

Anyway I had to get it out once I saw the thread, sorry http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

FoxHero
04-29-2006, 06:00 PM
Well, ever seen Spirited Away? Ghibli movies should change that for you.

Also don't forget that Disney is mostly remembered for theatrical features while current TV anime is on a whole different budget. Though some time ago some quality titles surfaced, namely Naruto and Inu Yasha. Both suffer hardly any from your points of criticism.

The two shows I recomended first hand also feature astoundingly good animation for a TV feature, especially Ran.

Of course, the golden age of US TV animation was still something different, but that's a time long past.

SandroTheMaster
04-29-2006, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by Infiltrator-SF:
I for one never liked Anime,

In my eyes, Walt Disney was the master of drawn animation, since I started drawing from a very little age, I kind of looked up to him and his work, it was very inspiring and it compleltly capured me.

I saw some anime, but it never impressed me, I just felt dissapointed more and more as I began to notice how often they are just repeating the same animations over and over and over, or the obscene amount of slo-mo scrolling, anyway, it all made the impression that too many shortcuts are taken when it comes to anime.

Anyway I had to get it out once I saw the thread, sorry http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Try Princess Mononoke

Infiltrator-SF
04-29-2006, 06:19 PM
I'll try to find the titles you suggested, however, I strongly doubt my view of the whole genre can change based on 2-3 films http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

FoxHero
04-29-2006, 07:07 PM
If you watch Mononoke and Spirited away, I dare claim so. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

GhostDracolich
04-30-2006, 01:09 PM
Akira, Mononoke, Spirited Away, Berserk, and Nausicaa are all good. Oh, and whatever you do, don't watch any of them dubbed except for possibly Mononoke and Akira (Akira got dubbed multiple times, one is good).

Infiltrator-SF
04-30-2006, 01:32 PM
Hmmm I actually think I saw Mononoke. Is it the one where there's some corrupted worm thing in the start that consumes everything? And sometime later the wolf head jumps around and bites stuff? I didn't like it if that's the one you're talking about.

HealingAura
05-01-2006, 12:52 PM
Infiltrator, watch FullMetal Alchemist and then tell me if you didn't change your mind about anime http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I liked Spirited Away even more than Mononoke and I think that Ghibli movies are a must see http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

aetherburst
05-03-2006, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Infiltrator-SF:
I for one never liked Anime,

In my eyes, Walt Disney was the master of drawn animation, since I started drawing from a very little age, I kind of looked up to him and his work, it was very inspiring and it compleltly capured me.

I saw some anime, but it never impressed me, I just felt dissapointed more and more as I began to notice how often they are just repeating the same animations over and over and over, or the obscene amount of slo-mo scrolling, anyway, it all made the impression that too many shortcuts are taken when it comes to anime.

Anyway I had to get it out once I saw the thread, sorry
i dont like anime either. i agree with everything infiltrator said and more. all the drawings of stuff look so stupid.
anime watcher = nerd http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gif

akito272927
05-04-2006, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by aetherburst:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Infiltrator-SF:
I for one never liked Anime,

In my eyes, Walt Disney was the master of drawn animation, since I started drawing from a very little age, I kind of looked up to him and his work, it was very inspiring and it compleltly capured me.

I saw some anime, but it never impressed me, I just felt dissapointed more and more as I began to notice how often they are just repeating the same animations over and over and over, or the obscene amount of slo-mo scrolling, anyway, it all made the impression that too many shortcuts are taken when it comes to anime.

Anyway I had to get it out once I saw the thread, sorry
i dont like anime either. i agree with everything infiltrator said and more. all the drawings of stuff look so stupid.
anime watcher = nerd http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So stupid? have you look at gantz?fullmetal alchemist? evangelion? cowboy bebop? and i can name lots and lots of anime of excelent quality.
Disney is fine if you have 10. If you say anime is stupid you dont know anything......
most of the new disneys movies are ****, nothing of real, real quality made entirely by disney.

Justice
05-04-2006, 02:54 PM
I like Disney and the like a lot more too... *runs for cover*

Acheval
05-04-2006, 04:32 PM
Heh. Don't get me started. You're dealing with a woman who saw Akira in the movie theatres when it first released...

Old favs:
Ah Megamisama
Eva
Escaflowne
Urusei Yatsura
Yu Yu Hakusho
Lain (duh - look at the avatar)
X
Perfect Blue
Kodocha
PATLabor
Ranma
Kite
Nausicaa
Angel's Egg
Kare Kano

... shall I go on?


You know, I've always been fascinated by the high correlation between anime fans and gamers...

akito272927
05-05-2006, 06:29 AM
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GhostDracolich
05-05-2006, 08:49 PM
I thought Disney was Dubbing Ghibli's Films and bringing them to the US? Or am I just remembering incorrectly?

tadaeusas
05-06-2006, 01:57 AM
i really want to watch these HealingAura' suggested anime, but..
Link expired. at /usr/local/sbin/Pancake line 406, line 17
wtf? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif
i really liked Disney, but i read his comic-books more. Recently,I saw Samurai X and I liked it more. What about futuristic? I like GITS (Ghost In The Shell), although I don’t like futuristic movies considering.

Infiltrator-SF
05-07-2006, 06:57 AM
I'm talking about drawn cartoons, old time disney long-cartoons have been incredibly well drawn (took years to make) and I respect that very much.

Now that does not include any of the new rendered stuff (although I really liked some, like The Incredibles).

I just feel rejection when I see huge eyes, small mouths and noses, weird hair-do's ect.

Goke
05-07-2006, 08:56 PM
Elfen Lied is one of the best new anime's out there... I recommend anyone to check it out.

HealingAura
05-08-2006, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by tadaeusas:
i really want to watch these HealingAura' suggested anime, but..
Link expired. at /usr/local/sbin/Pancake line 406, line 17
wtf? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif
i really liked Disney, but i read his comic-books more. Recently,I saw Samurai X and I liked it more. What about futuristic? I like GITS (Ghost In The Shell), although I don’t like futuristic movies considering.
Sorry for that. To solve this I updated the links so now you get to the AMV page so all you need to do is scroll down choose "Local" and enjoy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
Of course you do need to login to the AnimeMusicVideo.org site but it's worth it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

GrimReaper84_AU
03-23-2007, 03:06 AM
Anime rox.. shame it's almost impossible to get the good stuff down here in Oz. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

smith-b-d
03-23-2007, 03:49 AM
Originally posted by GrimReaper84_AU:
Anime rox.. shame it's almost impossible to get the good stuff down here in Oz. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
What are you talking about, you can get anything here... just order it over the net, its also much cheaper if you get the sets over ebay. Berserk on ebays about 10 to 30 dollars for the whole set where as from ezydvd.com.au its $114... although the quality can vary on some items.

I have:
- Cowboy BeBop (fav by far)
- Noir (i dont like it)
- Escaflowne (series + movie)
- Berserk (complete series)
- Trigun (okay)
- Hellsing (good)
- Vampire Hunter D (Awesome old oldschool anime)
- Vampire Hunter D:Bloodlust (not as good as first, although the gfx are pretty impressive for a amime)
- Ninja Scroll 10th Annaversery Ed
- Bleach (just download it... the dvds are a rip off no matter where you get it from)
- Studio Ghibli Collection
(^ be carefull where you buy this from!!!, alot of theme are sh_t pirate rips, audios out of sync & contains only 6 movie rather than all 10 & poor image quality)

Ive also got alot of overseas movies such as Zatoichi, The Ultimate Versus(director's cut, pretty cool), azumi ect...

Theres many more i wanna get but having no money sucks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

smith-b-d
03-23-2007, 04:15 AM
Also

Originally posted by GhostDracolich:
I thought Disney was Dubbing Ghibli's Films and bringing them to the US? Or am I just remembering incorrectly?
This has been done... although i still watch them with subs, prefer jap voices.

Also @ infiltrator:
Howls moving castle & spirited away are far better animated than anything ive seen from disney, So's Vampire Hunter D:Bloodlust. Also I didnt like Princess Mononoke either... it was too long and boring. Also disney uses alot of computer animation where'as ghibli's movies are much too old to use any (except for a few newer ones.)

You have also made a often misconception that everyone always make about Anime... Anime is not suppose to be a abbreviation of animation.


Anime definition from dictionary.com:
- a Japanese style of motion-picture animation, characterized by highly stylized, colorful art, futuristic settings, violence, and sexuality.
- Japanese for "animation," a term that seems to have arisen in the 1970s, apparently based on the Eng. word. Manga (q.v.) is Japanese for "comic book, graphic novel," but anime largely are based on manga and until 1970s, anime were known as manga eiga or "TV manga." The two terms are somewhat confused in Eng.
Its more confusing now that there is japenese anime films that nolonger fit the definition of anime. As far as im concerned anthing with less than a M rating is not anime.

Some of the best animes would have to be (that i havent mentioned yet):
- Akira (I love this film!)
- Neon Genesis
- Spriggin
- Ghost in a shell (other that the mech at the end i dont like)

... ill cut it short there otherwise ill go on forever.

Infiltrator-SF
03-23-2007, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by smith-b-d:
Also @ infiltrator:
Howls moving castle & spirited away are far better animated than anything ive seen from disney, So's Vampire Hunter D:Bloodlust. Also I didnt like Princess Mononoke either... it was too long and boring. Also disney uses alot of computer animation where'as ghibli's movies are much too old to use any (except for a few newer ones.)

You have also made a often misconception that everyone always make about Anime... Anime is not suppose to be a abbreviation of animation.


Haven't seen those two. Even if they are animated well, they can't be taken as the standard genre animation because anime as a whole is filled with crappy animations that keep getting recycled over and over and OVER even in the same cartoon. Of course not only anime used recycling. Some Hanna Barbera cartoons also used this cheap move (Scooby Doo comes into mind).

About disney using computers etc. - If you read more carefully, I already said that I'm talking about older, drawn-only cartoons. And I will again say that those are truely master pieces in my opinion, when I draw stuff I continually have this tendency to picture or compare it to some old disney cartoon, even if doesn't have any connection to it whatsoever.

And where did I make the misconception? I never said anywhere that Anime stands for animation, it would be pretty laughable if it did though.

Madman_V3N0M
03-23-2007, 09:53 AM
Yes, most lower buget, quicly made animes use repeated scenes, as do most any other types of hand drawn animated things...
And the big eyes, small mouth and nose look is not atributed to all animes, some have a more realistick look, and most non-anime animations use big eyes as well... if some of you don't like animes it's fine, but don't go around saying that "anime watcher = nerd" and that they are stupid, maybe you don't like the anime styles(yes there is more than one big eyed almost invisible nose style) but you must admit that at least some are very beautyfull and took years upon years to make, some are series some are movies, some are better some are not, don't go comparing everything to western animation's best when you know that we have lots of productions that suck incredibly.
Erm... rant over...

BTW I advise caution when concidering watching Elven Lied

smith-b-d
03-23-2007, 10:44 AM
Pre-Note: Dont take anything i write as agressive ... i dont write intending to insult or be mean or anything, but it does often come out that way. Just trying to share my opinion thats all.


Originally posted by Infiltrator-SF:
Haven't seen those two. Even if they are animated well, they can't be taken as the standard genre animation because anime as a whole is filled with crappy animations that keep getting recycled over and over and OVER even in the same cartoon. Of course not only anime used recycling. Some Hanna Barbera cartoons also used this cheap move (Scooby Doo comes into mind).
Isnt that pretty hypocritical... just because disney has good animators doesnt mean the standard all cartoons are generally better? load of cr_p. You seemed to have based your opinions of a whole genre on a few from each in both situations.


Originally posted by Infiltrator-SF:
About disney using computers etc. - If you read more carefully, I already said that I'm talking about older, drawn-only cartoons. And I will again say that those are truely master pieces in my opinion, when I draw stuff I continually have this tendency to picture or compare it to some old disney cartoon, even if doesn't have any connection to it whatsoever.
Except for few parts in Howls moving castle and spirited away all ghibli films are hand drawn traditionally & waterpainted. So yeah i did read carefully (...but i am known for seriously screwing up like this :P).


Originally posted by Infiltrator-SF:
And where did I make the misconception? I never said anywhere that Anime stands for animation, it would be pretty laughable if it did though.
You didnt say it, but you made the comparison between the two genres animations techniques. Perhaps it would help you appreciate anime if you know some of the history of it... Jap Anime started out as cheap alternative to film making costing only $10000 to make films usually using avant garde animation techniques & stories by people who would in our society would simply not have the chance to get their stories across. Now compair that to disneys rediculous budget for making a film. Simply put, dont bother making comparisons between animations of the two...

We know disney films are well animated & they came out with alot of impressive animation techniques not used elsewhere, but i would trade good animation for a good story anyday (berserk has worst animation ever, but one hell of a good story). Originally anime's were never intended to appeal to the majority and just intended to be used to help a producer into the movie making industry so he could get into making real films (refering to the creator of ghost in a shell, see avalon for a film directed by him), but anime has developed a fan base along the way.

It doesnt matter anyway anymore, these days budgets are much larger(due to increasing popularity) and now anime is on par with any disney film made as howls moving castle & spirited away have shown.

Also Princess Mononoke is a Disney & Studio Ghibli film, as well all film made by ghibli studio from 1989 and onwards from what i understand of their deal, disney tried to make ghibli cut alot of it so the rating could be made PG rather than M... it wouldve sucked horribly if they had their way. Mononoke also became the highest grossing movie in Japan until Titanic took over the spot several months later.

The only disney film i can think of that i liked was The Emperor's New Groove... that made me laugh. I used to have alot of early disney stuff on video tape laying about the house, but i find them all no comparison to modern cartoons & anime.

edit:
venom, the big eyes & so on are actually a large part of what makes a anime a anime, as a anime is mainly a cartoon who's drawing style is based upon manga... and in turn manga's main feature of its drawing style is the exageration of characters features and actions.. e.g. if someones stong they have thunder thighs and when they cut someone thye drown in blood & so on...

Madman_V3N0M
03-23-2007, 12:41 PM
Yeah, I know, but the big eye look is not inherited by all animes, some have ridiculously huge eyes and small noses and mouths and maybe that's what most people hate, but most have a more realistic look to them even though the proportions are still exagerated.

Infiltrator-SF
03-23-2007, 01:41 PM
Isnt that pretty hypocritical... just because disney has good animators doesnt mean the standard all cartoons are generally better? load of cr_p. You seemed to have based your opinions of a whole genre on a few from each in both situations.

How is that hypocritical? Let me put it this way - one of the biggest and most impacting Anime of all, the Pokemon, is a load of ****. It has NOTHING.



Except for few parts in Howls moving castle and spirited away all ghibli films are hand drawn traditionally & waterpainted. So yeah i did read carefully (...but i am known for seriously screwing up like this :P).

Uh, no offense, but you didn't read it carefully because if you did you wouldn't have brought up computer graphics in the first place.



You didnt say it, but you made the comparison between the two genres animations techniques. Perhaps it would help you appreciate anime if you know some of the history of it... Jap Anime started out as cheap alternative to film making costing only $10000 to make films usually using avant garde animation techniques & stories by people who would in our society would simply not have the chance to get their stories across. Now compair that to disneys rediculous budget for making a film. Simply put, dont bother making comparisons between animations of the two...

We know disney films are well animated & they came out with alot of impressive animation techniques not used elsewhere, but i would trade good animation for a good story anyday (berserk has worst animation ever, but one hell of a good story). Originally anime's were never intended to appeal to the majority and just intended to be used to help a producer into the movie making industry so he could get into making real films (refering to the creator of ghost in a shell, see avalon for a film directed by him), but anime has developed a fan base along the way.

It doesnt matter anyway anymore, these days budgets are much larger(due to increasing popularity) and now anime is on par with any disney film made as howls moving castle & spirited away have shown.

Also Princess Mononoke is a Disney & Studio Ghibli film, as well all film made by ghibli studio from 1989 and onwards from what i understand of their deal, disney tried to make ghibli cut alot of it so the rating could be made PG rather than M... it wouldve sucked horribly if they had their way. Mononoke also became the highest grossing movie in Japan until Titanic took over the spot several months later.

The only disney film i can think of that i liked was The Emperor's New Groove... that made me laugh. I used to have alot of early disney stuff on video tape laying about the house, but i find them all no comparison to modern cartoons & anime.

History, well I don't really care. I could start about how disney started it all out but it has little to do with the subject.

You'd trade animation for story? Well, let's see Mononoke story, I saw the cartoon and it looked like it came straight out of a drug addict's mind (for example that when the forest keeper or whatever head starts to expand when blown apart), but I can see if some people want eccentric scenarios so even things such as wolf heads running around biting stuff are welcome.

The Emperor's New Groove is pretty new, a lot from the old school disney is torn from it. But in cartoons like Excalibur the characters are literary infused with life, when I first started to learned italian (3-4 yrs old) their gestures and reactions alone were enough for me to catch onto the meaning of the words.

The only anime I can stand and actually don't mind is from the Namco fighting series, Soul Calibur and Tekken. Although you can still notice the anime influence, their designers butchered the style of its.. shortcomings, as I see them, and made the characters a lot more appealing in my opinion.

Madman_V3N0M
03-23-2007, 01:57 PM
Aww WTF Pokemon? Ur taking Pokemon as a representative for animes? Are you seriously so hatefull towards animes that you would choose the worst examples of it to ilustrate it? And what does the fact that Pokemon was so big around the world prove? That people are idiots... or... that children rly like Pokemon a lot, i mean it's an anime directed towards kids

GhostDracolich
03-25-2007, 11:42 PM
If you say "Pokemon", then I say "Reality TV". We can scrape the bottom of the barrel all day.

Infiltrator-SF
03-27-2007, 06:29 AM
I must have missed the part where they draw reality tv nowadays.

Patenaudeluc
04-03-2007, 11:28 AM
I do not know about most you here.

But, I did draw western-like(cowboys) cartoons.

I barely remember it all. I think it was in the simple newspaper strip type. I studied the way the Lucky Luke's very small storyline type books.

I specialized in the town fights-Sheriff and deputies trying to stop robbers and thieves.

One day, I swear, that I saw someone on tv, whom took, somehow, my drawings and, completed the whole suite of drawings needed to animate the characters into a Lucky-Luke animé look-alike show. It lasted only 5 to 10 seconds though. Long enough for me to realize what was going on.

Man. That felt so good. To see my own drawings come to life onto the silver screen like that.

I do own a VHS-VCR copy of one of the Lucky-Luke's many television episodes of that animé series. I think that I will pop it in and laugh my heart out. That animé is so funny that your tummy will hurt after it all.
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Infiltrator-SF
04-03-2007, 04:12 PM
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