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Scorpion_37

10-13-2004, 09:11 AM

Will there be co-op, Call fo Duty Did not have it and thats what let it down big time. If CoD had Co-Op it would have been an amazing game. And nothing would have come near to comparison with it. But BIA looks cool, And Co-Op would go with it more seeing as its a squad based shooter not an all round FPS.

Scorpion_37

10-13-2004, 09:11 AM

anti.hero-

10-13-2004, 12:21 PM

lol this is what i've been asking in A LOT of threads but never get an answer. i'm pretty sure they wouldn't leave it out though. i sure hope not. you do mean offline co-op like what i'm talking about right?

BakerCompany

10-14-2004, 01:54 PM

what co-op is, please?

silent_hitman47

10-14-2004, 05:52 PM

Co-op is where two people can play through the single-player missions together either over the internet, on one TV, or a LAN or System Link.

StainzE

10-15-2004, 09:07 AM

I find it very hard to understand these days, when I played Unreal 1 and Quake 2 (i think it was), we could play over the LAN in CO-OP mode...

PCs are much more powerful these days and CO-OP seems to have been omitted from way too many games!! MP is fine and fun from a CLAN point of view, but CO-OP a full/part squad would be nice... I find AI very limited and would love to say to a CLAN member, "get up in that roof with yer sniper!!".... you get the gist

BakerCompany

10-15-2004, 07:05 PM

Sound cool.
Hope this feature will be available at BIA.

sonkev1

10-15-2004, 11:36 PM

dumb azz noob i am

WhiteKnight77

10-20-2004, 05:59 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by StainzE:
PCs are much more powerful these days and CO-OP seems to have been omitted from way too many games!! MP is fine and fun from a CLAN point of view, but CO-OP a full/part squad would be nice... I find AI very limited and would love to say to a CLAN member, "get up in that roof with yer sniper!!".... you get the gist <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Coop is an MP mode just like DM and TDM is.

@Scorpion_37, you are right, CoD would have been much better if it had a Coop component to it. I think the Kursk mission would have been killer with Coop.

Colin_Campbell

10-20-2004, 07:03 PM

You won't be able to play through single player missions with a buddy. You will, however, be able to play through the task-oriented multiplayer gametypes with a buddy vs. some AI controlled squads. An example of a gametype like that would be capture this position and hold it, while the other sides job would be to prevent you from achieving this. Thats an example, Gearbox hasn't released a lot about the multiplayer portion of the game yet.

anti.hero-

10-20-2004, 07:33 PM

that kinda sucks tbh. i was hoping that you could go through the single player story mode with a buddy. this is very disappointing to me.

can you actually confirm this? i would like to see where you got this info from.

Rifleman907

10-20-2004, 08:06 PM

Just play Halo 2 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

hairlesswookiee

10-21-2004, 08:03 AM

i do know for a fact that one of the things i was hoping for the most was a co-op mode for this game. hopefully they will put this feature in because it makes it much more exciting.

anti.hero-

10-21-2004, 08:25 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rifleman907:
Just play Halo 2 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>though i will buy halo 2, you can't just say play halo 2 because they're 2 different types of games. yes halo 2 will rock, but i was hoping for a good ww2 game that finally had a decent co-op mode.

Colin_Campbell

10-21-2004, 11:06 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by anti.hero-:
that kinda sucks tbh. i was hoping that you could go through the single player story mode with a buddy. this is very disappointing to me.

can you actually confirm this? i would like to see where you got this info from. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

All the information I get comes from the most reliable sources, the Gearbox dev team, pay particularly close attention to the posts "Botman" makes in this thread, he's an AI progammer on the BiA Team at Gearbox (http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=344118&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1).

anti.hero-

10-21-2004, 11:32 AM

cool so what i've read is that there will be no offline split-screen co-op? i'm sorry, but offline co-op is VERY fun when you and a buddy can fight together. why they didn't add this in is just beyond me...it's just downright stupid actually.

Colin_Campbell

10-21-2004, 12:42 PM

Reading helps (http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=354271&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&vc=1)

anti.hero-

10-21-2004, 02:20 PM

so will there be any kind of 'co-op' offline? like w/o having to go online because as long as it has some kind of teamplay offline i'll be happy. it doesn't have to be tied in with the story mode; i'll be happy if theres just some kind of teamplay offline with your buddy against a.i. bots.

mkatchmark

10-21-2004, 05:59 PM

A Co-Op would be nice for multiplayer. Other games have been let downs with Co-Ops because of the (excuser mon francais) ******ed Artificial Intelligence. Hopefully BiA does a good job with the Situational Awareness.

By the way, I think Co-Op stands for either Co-Operations, or simply Cooperation (gametype)

Kurtz_

10-22-2004, 05:22 AM

That is quite disappointing. In Ghost recon, you can play co-op mission, firefight, defend and recon in MP against AI with up to 9 players. It's my preferred MP game. What they are calling coop here is really T vs T, with AI filling out the squads.

juv3

10-22-2004, 07:28 AM

just give us search and destroy in MP then this game will rock cod, and CPL!

Colin_Campbell

10-22-2004, 11:13 AM

You guys really aren't reading the link I posted, and if you were, you're not reading correctly.

anti.hero-

10-22-2004, 02:04 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Colin_Campbell:
You guys really aren't reading the link I posted, and if you were, you're not reading correctly. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>dude, i seriously don't feel like reading pages and pages of text.

Smiler_UK

10-22-2004, 02:43 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Smiler_UK:
I have to say the complete game has to have mission based COOP for online multiplayer. Great games in the past were games like Rogue Spear/Urban Ops. And one thing I am still not sure about is respawning, so if I rush and die its no problem, I will respawn anyway. If you died 1st in RS/UO you had to wait till the mission was complete or your team mates died....it could be a long wait, but it made you think before rushing, which made it a little more realistic.
I played RS/UO for 3 years without buying another game....BIA looks sweet and if the game developers read this, please please please include a good COOP mission based online experience and you could have me hooked for the next 3 years!!!
Look forward to seeing you guys on the battlefield!

Smiler <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mak6

10-22-2004, 02:49 PM

Exactly Kurtz_, the whole Multiplayer aspect should be about HUMANS vs HUMANS, not humans with bots vs humans and bots. The whole reason to play MP is about the comradarie and challenge of playing against other humans. If this game is heavily based on FPS, then they shouldnt have bots filling in positions of soldiers in the game. I myself can just see this turning into a big mess. Those game types with bots wouldnt even be fun anymore. Who wants to play a rea-time strategy game when there are already others out there for WWII. Keep this game a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER without bots in the Multiplayer. Please please please.

Mak6

10-22-2004, 02:58 PM

Colin_Campbell, please tell me there is some kind of Search and Destroy or Team Deathmatch (not just deathmatch but with teams) in BiA that does NOT consist of AI?

WhiteKnight77

10-22-2004, 07:09 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Kurtz_:
That is quite disappointing. In Ghost recon, you can play co-op mission, firefight, defend and recon in MP against AI with up to 9 players. It's my preferred MP game. What they are calling coop here is really T vs T, with AI filling out the squads. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Defend is an awesome mode, wave after wave of enemy coming after you while you defend the base. BIA will miss out on some longevity without Coop IMO.

Mak6

10-22-2004, 10:41 PM

Search and destroy with bots? Or search and destroy without bots?

It would be extremely disappointing if every MP scenario had bots in it. Yes there may be a deathmatch without bots, but only a handful of people like the deathmatch. Most of the members in this forum are here for two reasons. Realism and Teamwork. I believe almost everyone here would like to see some kind of search and destroy without bots and with a large number of humans playing. As I said in the other post, SP is for playing against bots, the MP should only include humans. If I really wanted to play against bots, I wouldnt be here on this forum....

Kurtz_

10-24-2004, 09:01 AM

The end result in MP is that 90% of the time or more you will see absolutely no teamwork, bots or no bots, it will be the same as AA or any other FPS, a free for all with everyone trying to rack up as many kills as possible and dragging their AI along the way kids are dragged through Walmart. Everbody wants to be the L1033t and "pwn" at the game and "pwn" everyone in the game. It beats thinking.

Colin_Campbell

10-24-2004, 09:26 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Mak6:
Colin_Campbell, please tell me there is some kind of Search and Destroy or Team Deathmatch (not just deathmatch but with teams) in BiA that does NOT consist of AI? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I can't, because I don't know either. I can only tell you what I know, because I am not inside Gearbox and I have not played Brothers in Arms. I can make a guess with good confidence that there will be no-AI gametypes, however, I think they're going to be smart about it and add those in if they haven't already.

WhiteKnight77

10-24-2004, 05:44 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Kurtz_:
The end result in MP is that 90% of the time or more you will see absolutely no teamwork, bots or no bots, it will be the same as AA or any other FPS, a free for all with everyone trying to rack up as many kills as possible and dragging their AI along the way kids are dragged through Walmart. Everbody wants to be the L1033t and "pwn" at the game and "pwn" everyone in the game. It beats thinking. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Remember Alpha Squad's Coop Tournaments, ya can't win without teamwork.

6 of the 19 games I have installed on my rig do not have a Coop mode. Everywhere I go, I see people as which games have Coop game modes. I see that it is an MP game mode that is in great demand. Game developers are missing out by not including it.

All FPS games should include Coop, DM and TDM at the minimum. Within those modes, should come other gameplay types.

Colin_Campbell

10-24-2004, 06:27 PM

First of all, lets make sure we're talking about the same thing.

Co-op gametypes within the multiplayer realm ARE in the game, infact, there are a ton from what I remember Randy Pitchford saying in an interview.

Single player co-op, as in, play through the single player missions with a buddy, is NOT in the game.

Just so we're all talking about the same thing. There are Search and Destroy type gametypes, there is not, however, a single player mission (Halo-type) co-op.

anti.hero-

10-24-2004, 06:34 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Colin_Campbell:
First of all, lets make sure we're talking about the same thing.

Co-op gametypes within the multiplayer realm ARE in the game, infact, there are a ton from what I remember Randy Pitchford saying in an interview.

Single player co-op, as in, play through the single player missions with a buddy, is NOT in the game.

Just so we're all talking about the same thing. There are Search and Destroy type gametypes, there is not, however, a single player mission (Halo-type) co-op. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>so there isn't ANY offline co-op at all? i hope they at least add co-op for 2 offline players w/o having to go online. like i said before, i'd be happy with ANY kind of co-op offline. it doesn't have to be through story mode, just have it to where you and a buddy can choose a level and fight bots. that's good enough for me.

WhiteKnight77

10-24-2004, 08:56 PM

Lets clear things up. My definition, along with many others, of Coop is humans (being more than 1 or 2) playing the SP missions in MP (after all there are mulitple players playing at the same time on the same server) to complete a mission against enemy AI (or if you like "bots").

SP is where one human and AI teammates do missions together and complete them.

Coop with humans is possible. There are many games that provide this kind of gameplay. The hardest to code for are flight sims. Dogfights are unscripted events while getting enemy planes to the area are. Add in the element of unpredictable humans against computer flown aircraft and you have an experiance that has to be seen to believed.

Coop is substituting team AI with humans, nothing more. You have different kind of games with Coop like Defend or firefight or even Recon (this is cool as everyone would have to survive to complete the mission).

Colin_Campbell

10-25-2004, 11:31 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by anti.hero-:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Colin_Campbell:
First of all, lets make sure we're talking about the same thing.

Co-op gametypes within the multiplayer realm ARE in the game, infact, there are a ton from what I remember Randy Pitchford saying in an interview.

Single player co-op, as in, play through the single player missions with a buddy, is NOT in the game.

Just so we're all talking about the same thing. There are Search and Destroy type gametypes, there is not, however, a single player mission (Halo-type) co-op. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>so there isn't ANY offline co-op at all? i hope they at least add co-op for 2 offline players w/o having to go online. like i said before, i'd be happy with ANY kind of co-op offline. it doesn't have to be through story mode, just have it to where you and a buddy can choose a level and fight bots. that's good enough for me. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I didn't say that, did I?

My best guess is it will be both online and offline, that is, the co-operative gametype multiplayer. As far as single player co-operative, thats not in the game at all.

witchknot9

10-27-2004, 04:29 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by anti.hero-:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rifleman907:
Just play Halo 2 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>though i will buy halo 2, you can't just say play halo 2 because they're 2 different types of games. yes halo 2 will rock, but i was hoping for a good ww2 game that finally had a decent co-op mode. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hate too say this but Halo 2 does not support coop online! Sad becuase it was the only part of the game i was looking forward to! It only supports Team death Match and Death match plus CTF maybe one or two more diffrent kinds but no CooP! They said no Lan or internet CooP so just 1 x-box CooP is conformed that i know of. Anyways here's a link about Halo 2 (http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/7065/No-OnlineLAN-Coop-for-Halo-2)

As for BIA that was also the biggest thing i was looking forward to just can hope it does get added in before releash or we just going too have too wait for mods!

anti.hero-

10-27-2004, 02:43 PM

enough with the online co-op. i could care less if halo2 or bia will have online co-op. i don't have xbox live anyway and i'm not planning on getting it anytime soon either. i just want some kind of co-op offline so me and a bud could play together. again, whenever you see me post about co-op, i'm ALWAYS talking about offline, not online.

Rifleman907

10-27-2004, 02:58 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Colin_Campbell:
First of all, lets make sure we're talking about the same thing.

Co-op gametypes within the multiplayer realm ARE in the game, infact, there are a ton from what I remember Randy Pitchford saying in an interview.

Single player co-op, as in, play through the single player missions with a buddy, is NOT in the game.

Just so we're all talking about the same thing. There are Search and Destroy type gametypes, there is not, however, a single player mission (Halo-type) co-op. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok what I got from this is there will be a co-op in Multiplayer mode NOT in the story way, you will be able to do missions together but not missions relating to the storyline directley, correct me if I'm wrong?

Cpt.Stukan

12-12-2004, 12:42 AM

A L.A.N Cooperative gameplay would be very cool, me and my two brothers could play. Controlling 1 squad per person.

HalfDigested

12-12-2004, 09:02 AM

TennesseeTitans

12-12-2004, 10:59 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> i just want some kind of co-op offline so me and a bud could play together <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There is a split screen multiplayer mode if thats what you mean. However there is no coop where its just you and a friend pitted against bots. But there will be a split screen mp mode that will be essentially the same as its online counterpart.