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Vth_F_Smith_
10-04-2005, 01:46 PM
Amsterdam, The Netherlands €" October 4, 2005 €" Today Ubisoft, one of the world's largest video game publishers, announces Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 4 (working title), the next masterpiece in the Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell series. Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 4 will be available in spring 2006 for current and next generation consoles as well as PC.

Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 4 will thrust players into a new breed of game play that promises to innovate and revolutionize the Splinter Cell franchise. Ubisoft is taking the saga of Sam Fisher into entirely new territory, expanding the story and depth of his character.

Games in the Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell series have garnered some of the industry's most prestigious awards and outstanding reviews, including Best Action/Adventure Game of the Year at the Electronic Entertainment Expo in 2002 and 2004, The Academy of Interactive Arts and Science's Action/Adventure Game of the Year Award, (Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow) and the highest review score ever from Official Xbox Magazine (U.S.) for Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, a 9.9 out of 10.

"Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory received record-setting reviews and countless awards," said Yves Guillemot, president and CEO of Ubisoft. "Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 4 will be even more thrilling and heart-pounding than its ground-breaking predecessors. This new version will both enrich the gaming experience on current consoles and take full advantage of the capacities of next-generation consoles to deliver players the most fabulous gaming experience ever."

The Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell video game franchise has sold more than 12.5 million copies worldwide since the first game launched in 2002.

For more information about Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 4 please visit http://www.bewaresamfisher.com. For more information about Ubisoft, please visit http://www.ubisoftgroup.com.
About Tom Clancy:

With over 80 million books sold, Tom Clancy is arguably the world's most recognized author. His works include fiction such as The Hunt for Red October, Clear and Present Danger, The Sum of All Fears, Rainbow Six, Without Remorse and The Teeth of the Tiger. Clancy also writes nonfiction works about weapons and various military units. Four of his books have already been adapted into highly successful feature films.

About Ubisoft:

Ubisoft is a leading producer, publisher and distributor of interactive entertainment products worldwide and has grown considerably through its strong and diversified line-up of products and partnerships. Ubisoft has offices in 21 countries and sales in more than 50 countries around the globe. It is committed to delivering high-quality, cutting-edge videogame titles to consumers. Ubisoft generated revenue of "538 million for the 2004€"2005 fiscal year, an increase of 8% over the previous fiscal year at constant exchange rates. To learn more, please visit http://www.ubisoftgroup.com.

Boobonys
10-04-2005, 01:52 PM
Phew, so it won't be released in Q4 2006 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

damxiel
10-04-2005, 01:55 PM
good to know...hope its going to be something different and unexpected.

Jackal56o
10-04-2005, 01:58 PM
how will it be ground breaking? A map editor for sp and coop? I HOPE...

IgGy001985
10-04-2005, 02:01 PM
i'm just wondering will PC get "current-gen" or "next-gen" version...

psyichic
10-04-2005, 02:18 PM
Igy dont worry im pretty sure its safe to say Next-gen becasue think about it the PC has the Next gen capacity. 7800 GTX is lets just say equivalent to the RSX on the PS3 (THis is not an argument or a statement of fact just that they are roughly the same based on the G70 core I beleive and we wont know if its as good as a 7800 GTX or better until they are on retailer's shelves!) Not to mention PC has always had the wonderful ability to raise and lower graphics. SO its easy enough to actually put both in the same game and just give us high quality and low quality.

scworld
10-04-2005, 02:37 PM
Cooooool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

FN57
10-04-2005, 02:42 PM
Current and Next Gen systems? So I can get it for Xbox if I don't want to buy a 360?

Lord_Bawls
10-04-2005, 02:44 PM
Screenshots?! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Vth_F_Smith_
10-04-2005, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by Lord_Bawls:
Screenshots?! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif I think that's even better -> Beware of Sam Fisher (http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/736/736174/vids_1.html)! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

cheese_thief
10-04-2005, 03:59 PM
I'd rather see screenshots, personally.

But that video IS rather interesting...

simulacra
10-04-2005, 04:07 PM
Yes yes yes yes!
SC4, finally!

Vth_F_Smith_
10-04-2005, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by cheese_thief:
I'd rather see screenshots, personally.

But that video IS rather interesting... Oh I have a feeling we'll see some Screenshots soon! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

samfisherflame8
10-04-2005, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cheese_thief:
I'd rather see screenshots, personally.

But that video IS rather interesting... Oh I have a feeling we'll see some Screenshots soon! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

probably tomorrow i bet... since tomorrow is the start of microsoft X05 i think

sweener182
10-04-2005, 05:44 PM
this'll be fun.

CAKE_Wha_
10-04-2005, 10:51 PM
Let's just hope it's not 'new and revolutionary' in the Yoko or New Coke sense.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

stealthy_U
10-04-2005, 11:46 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:


Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 4 will thrust players into a new breed of game play that promises to innovate and revolutionize the Splinter Cell franchise. Ubisoft is taking the saga of Sam Fisher into entirely new territory, expanding the story and depth of his character.[END QUOTE]

Lets just hope Ubi live up to what they say. But in any case I can't wait!!

GhostRiderLSOV
10-05-2005, 12:42 AM
Edit: Silly me, it's the same video. :P
Weird though, Sam charges in, and gets promptly taken out...expected, but sucks. :P
Last SF Splinter Cell I guess, time for retirement.

DuRiNxxx
10-05-2005, 01:51 AM
cool=). but i think ubi wont release it in spring 06 thats too early:S

Vth_F_Smith_
10-05-2005, 04:12 AM
Originally posted by DuRiNxxx:
cool=). but i think ubi wont release it in spring 06 thats too early:S What makes you think that? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif
Originally posted by CAKE_Wha_:
Let's just hope it's not 'new and revolutionary' in the Yoko or New Coke sense.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Hehe, don't worry! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Although SC4 with Cherry Taste....yum yum......oops...sorry! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Talon1986
10-05-2005, 04:13 AM
Originally posted by IgGy001985:
i'm just wondering will PC get "current-gen" or "next-gen" version...

Yes, but how many people actually have a pc that fast? Not enough is my guess.

Brownsnakeeyes
10-05-2005, 04:40 AM
That's multiplayer. And that's not Fisher.

Now we know why the coop maps are taking sooooo long! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Vth_F_Smith_
10-05-2005, 04:57 AM
Originally posted by Brownsnakeeyes:
That's multiplayer. And that's not Fisher.

Now we know why the coop maps are taking sooooo long! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif SC4 is made by a totally other Studio! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Eclyps3
10-05-2005, 04:57 AM
Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DuRiNxxx:
cool=). but i think ubi wont release it in spring 06 thats too early:S What makes you think that? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well Ubisoft doesn't really have a glamorous reputation when it comes to being accurate about dates and times. Not that many other companies are. Why are you acting silly, geez! Positive people bug me.

Vth_F_Smith_
10-05-2005, 05:01 AM
Originally posted by Eclyps3:
Well Ubisoft doesn't really have a glamorous reputation when it comes to being accurate about dates and times. Not that many other companies are. Why are you acting silly, geez! Positive people bug me. Believe me, I'm not acting silly, I know exactly what I do! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif You're maybe right on the "Dates and Times" part but actually that's a problem EVERY Game Developer has to face and especially if is developing great and highly innovative Games! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Spiritmonger4
10-05-2005, 05:33 AM
Rather w8 for a game so its fully finished, and working. then like ct wich only a bunch of people can play the coop.

Hope they make some good fixus for versus mode http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I CANT w8 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

timmieboy2
10-05-2005, 06:41 AM
d*mn the teaser really looks sweet, but i dont think this is gonna be ingame. The setting of the video looks a bit like a factory with some computers. The website looks like sam is missing and need to be found. Not sure if it starts in november at the website or in the game (so you gonna play an other character)

Spekkio9
10-05-2005, 08:26 AM
I'm sorry, but that entire teaser/trailer whatever looks like they used real actors, not in-game shots. Don't get your hopes up because the final game isn't going to look like that, and there isn't going to be some feature where Sam's sweat causes a baddy to look at you.

Derwen_Llewelyn
10-05-2005, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by Spekkio9:
I'm sorry, but that entire teaser/trailer whatever looks like they used real actors, not in-game shots. Don't get your hopes up because the final game isn't going to look like that, and there isn't going to be some feature where Sam's sweat causes a baddy to look at you.

Thats NOT Sam in those goggles...the "baddy" in that helm....HE IS SAM! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Eclyps3
10-05-2005, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:
You're maybe right on the "Dates and Times" part but actually that's a problem EVERY Game Developer has to face and especially if is developing great and highly innovative Games! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

That's what I did say. There was this joke going around about Blizzard some time ago... "We might not live to see Starcraft but at least our grandsons will!". And look at Duke Forever... it takes forever alright :P . It's just that I've grown to never trust release dates. And am still to be proven wrong :P

element54
10-05-2005, 11:49 AM
it looked alot like that teaser was some type of training scenario. Llewelyn, you say that the guy in the grey shirt with the helmet and mask is supposed to be Sam? What is the deal there. Ohhhh, does Sam go to the dark side. is that why we are supposed to "Beware Sam Fisher"

scworld
10-05-2005, 11:55 AM
You guys know that bewareOFsamfisher.com is also regged? I know it's gonna be much better http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

epikur_2000
10-05-2005, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Spekkio9:

I'm sorry, but that entire teaser/trailer whatever looks like they used real actors, not in-game shots. Don't get your hopes up because the final game isn't going to look like that, and there isn't going to be some feature where Sam's sweat causes a baddy to look at you.


I partially agree on that, as I don´t think too that sweat drops are going to cause an opponent´s attention; actually IGN stated, that it´s a mixture of pre-rendered stuff and ingame-sequences, but next-gen consoles´ ingame graphics could (almost) be up to that quality.
Just think of the PS3-teasers of MGS4 and Killzone. Either of those trailers did look fantastic and so does this one.
I´m not really sure about Killzone, but MGS4 was definitely rendered in realtime, Hideo Kojima gave proof of that.

"You have no idea what´s coming", it says at the end of that strange trailer and I think that´s d*mn right but what was shown there is rather coop than versus imo. However, graphics look awesome and I´m really thrilled about it.

It seems, that 2006 is going to be a "console´s year" unless you have a VERY high-end PC-system, especially with respect to the CPU.

SPROGGY
10-05-2005, 12:35 PM
This is good news for the forum guys. Ive been around for a while and the forum always begins to steadily pick up with the release of new information about an upcoming Splinter Cell game. You can expect some of the old members to start showing up again, followed by a significant increase when 360 comes out. Im sure Nightemarecast will start posting brand new material soon.

Derwen_Llewelyn
10-05-2005, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by element54:
it looked alot like that teaser was some type of training scenario. Llewelyn, you say that the guy in the grey shirt with the helmet and mask is supposed to be Sam? What is the deal there. Ohhhh, does Sam go to the dark side. is that why we are supposed to "Beware Sam Fisher"


Yes. He is Sam.

The sc20k its on his back.
(i dont think he's on the dark side know)

We all know Sam is the best what he does.
He's the MASTER.

And those two guys are Sam's young pupils.

Its a training video. Simple as that lol . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

General_Stone
10-05-2005, 01:01 PM
Unless Sam shaved his head im still not convinced that that was him.....

Buder08
10-05-2005, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by Derwen_Llewelyn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by element54:
it looked alot like that teaser was some type of training scenario. Llewelyn, you say that the guy in the grey shirt with the helmet and mask is supposed to be Sam? What is the deal there. Ohhhh, does Sam go to the dark side. is that why we are supposed to "Beware Sam Fisher"


Yes. He is Sam.

(the sc20k its on his back, and i dont think he 's on the dark side know)

We all we know Sam is the best what he does.
He's the MASTER.

And those two guys are Sam's young pupils.

Its a training video. Simple as that lol . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Do you know that for a fact, or is that what you are asuming, because to me i think it is svm because at the begining of the vid it says its a look at the online part, and the ear muff things on the merc along with the visor remind me of svm.

Eclyps3
10-05-2005, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by Derwen_Llewelyn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by element54:
it looked alot like that teaser was some type of training scenario. Llewelyn, you say that the guy in the grey shirt with the helmet and mask is supposed to be Sam? What is the deal there. Ohhhh, does Sam go to the dark side. is that why we are supposed to "Beware Sam Fisher"


Yes. He is Sam.

(the sc20k its on his back, and i dont think he 's on the dark side know)

We all we know Sam is the best what he does.
He's the MASTER.

And those two guys are Sam's young pupils.

Its a training video. Simple as that lol . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Awww c'mon, you're kidding. :P

Ubisoft will never get rid of Sam's 3 green dots. And will never shave his head. Also the trailer speaks of "online" experience in the very beginning. So no...

epikur_2000
10-05-2005, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by Derwen_Llewelyn:
Yes. He is Sam.

(the sc20k its on his back, and i dont think he 's on the dark side know)

We all we know Sam is the best what he does.
He's the MASTER.

And those two guys are Sam's young pupils.

Its a training video. Simple as that lol .

If that´s just a training session featuring Sam as an instructor then he has caused some serious pain at least to one of the rookies... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But I doubt it, the masked guy looks like a muscleman of the Roman ancient...

Spekkio9
10-05-2005, 01:28 PM
guess what? IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO'S WHO BECAUSE NONE OF THIS IS GOING TO BE IN THE FINAL GAME!

Eclyps3
10-05-2005, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by Spekkio9:
guess what? IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO'S WHO BECAUSE NONE OF THIS IS GOING TO BE IN THE FINAL GAME!
Awwwwww... come on Spekkio. You know that arm twisting was a hint at new humiliation moves or something http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

MR.Mic
10-05-2005, 01:37 PM
I also dont think that we will have a full blown caustics and GI rendering engine (which is present in the vid). It would be too insense for current and next gen tech to do in real time.

Jason-Alaska
10-05-2005, 01:41 PM
I gotta go with Derwin on this one. I think the baddy with the SC20k on his back is Sam...

"Breaking" in the new guys. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

I.S.F-Dixxhead
10-05-2005, 01:51 PM
Yea, why wouldn't he have killed him ?! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Spekkio9
10-05-2005, 01:51 PM
Jeez, you guys are fools. This video is nothing more than an advertising stint to get everyone excited and talking about SC4, which isn't going to be out for another 6 months at least. Then, when the game finally does come out, you'll all be *****ing on the forums about how it doesn't look like it was advertised and why can't I do the super arm twist yadda yadda yadda and Ubi will just say oh we cut those scenes out before the final release. Ugh, why do I even bother. Don't say I didn't warn you though. In the meantime, have fun speculating over nothing.

Op.shadowstrike
10-05-2005, 02:01 PM
100% right

scworld
10-05-2005, 02:17 PM
So? Speaking about it is good http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
We never really got the Bullet-Time bullets in one of CT's vids, but who cares... As long as it looks good.

generic_sheep
10-05-2005, 02:22 PM
Heh. You are probably right. The movie maybe even have to do nothing with the real game, its just there to get us excited. Still though, it is pretty cool. If Sam is the guy with the visor, then hes probably traing to be a commando of some sort. Maybe thats the "revolutionary" game twist. Maybe you can play every level as a stealth Sam, or a FPS style Sam. Thatd be pretty cool.

The slogan "Beware Sam Fisher" or whatever it is, I think, is hinting that Sam is going to go do some missions solo, without the NSA backing him up. Maybe he even is going against the US government, and trying to foil some sort of conspiracy, which is going on within the government. Heh.

Well, I don't know about you guys, but I dont play single player much.. (probably cause me PC sucks so much it the sound card messes up anytime theres a loud noise). I don't care much about what UBI does with singleplayer. I only care about versus much. I just hope either that this revoultionary game twist doesnt reck the versus mode, or that just about nothing in versus is changed, besides better graphics, more maps, maybe one or two new coop moves (the coop to ladder move, and a coop move where one spy jumps off the other spies back when their doing the human ladder move (its hard to explain)) and maybe even ragdoll physics.

For all I know, everything i just typed could be wrong, or not happen. So, I guess i'll just wait for it to come out. What else? heh.

Eclyps3
10-05-2005, 02:29 PM
Keep it up, ppl, I need a refreshing Rant from Spekkio, I'm bored. :P

I bet they're all clones of Sam with extended genes and all the cool ****!

Cougar-C.A.T.
10-05-2005, 02:54 PM
Well, i can understand spek's post entirely but what has the world come to if we all start complaining bout the people complaining, or what they are complaining about? There can be many stories but the video is just out to get people asking all sorta of questions. I was personally staring at my screen for another 5 min after the clip ended to figure out what was going on lol

iggadore
10-05-2005, 03:12 PM
3 person coop. or a training vid.
Why?
Cause the guy who starts off the vid has brown hair and a face a little like the actor who played luke skywalker. The guy who gets his arm broken has black hair and a different face. Then theres the guy in the camo. 3 people.

Where's Rhoulette when we need answers?

SABU1111
10-05-2005, 03:22 PM
How in the hell can you think real actors are in that video? It's not gameplay, yes. But it's definitly cutscene quality.

Derwen_Llewelyn
10-05-2005, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by Eclyps3:
Awww c'mon, you're kidding. :P

Ubisoft will never get rid of Sam's 3 green dots. And will never shave his head. Also the trailer speaks of "online" experience in the very beginning. So no...

Lol your right, but online or offline...its STILL Splinter Cell.
And you cannot see where the video mentions Versus or Coop.

Its Splinter Cell.

scworld
10-05-2005, 03:35 PM
Where's Rhoulette when we need answers?

My best guess is preparing this launch, teaser and website http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif DOH!!!!

FlamingGimp
10-05-2005, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by epikur_2000:
It seems, that 2006 is going to be a "console´s year" unless you have a VERY high-end PC-system, especially with respect to the CPU.

People have been saying that for the past couple years, and as far as I'm concerned, it hasn't turned out to be true.
And on the aspect of CPU's, the chips in the next-gen consoles are disgusting weak compared to the GPU.


Originally posted by epikur_2000:
Just think of the PS3-teasers of MGS4 and Killzone. Either of those trailers did look fantastic and so does this one.
I´m not really sure about Killzone, but MGS4 was definitely rendered in realtime, Hideo Kojima gave proof of that.

It seems to be a proven fact that games never end up looking like their promo shots or ingame previews. I've been constantly blown away by previews rendered in-game, but yet when the final product shows up, I always find myself dissapointed.

Iservealot
10-05-2005, 04:23 PM
<span class="ev_code_BLUE">First off, The ps3 reners where NOT done in real time. This had been a proven fact. Most of the PS3 demoes where not done in real time. </span>

Now, as far as asplinter cell 4, is it going to be using the Unreal 3 engine?

Spekkio9
10-05-2005, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Eclyps3:
Keep it up, ppl, I need a refreshing Rant from Spekkio, I'm bored. :P

I bet they're all clones of Sam with extended genes and all the cool ****! I....won't....take...the...bait....nooooooo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif.


People have been saying that for the past couple years, and as far as I'm concerned, it hasn't turned out to be true.
And on the aspect of CPU's, the chips in the next-gen consoles are disgusting weak compared to the GPU. True, but gaming consoles are much more efficient, hence they can get away with lower hardware requirements. Also factor in that consoles don't have to render graphics above 640x480 or whatever proportion TV's use, unlike PC GPU's which need to go upwards of 1600x1200.

Vth_F_Smith_
10-05-2005, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by Iservealot:
<span class="ev_code_BLUE">First off, The ps3 reners where NOT done in real time. This had been a proven fact. Most of the PS3 demoes where not done in real time. </span> I didn't talk about all the PS3 Demo's, BUT about the Demo of this particular Stealth Game and it's also a proven fact that this was done in Realtime (Want the Link to the Proof?)! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

FlamingGimp
10-05-2005, 05:58 PM
That is true Spekkio, the fact that they have very powerful GPU's is widely known, but I was talking about the CPU power of the consoles.

There was an article that was put up on Anandtech, and quickly pulled down (corporate pressure, should I say?), that talked about the lack of performance from these chips (PS3 and Xbox), stating that they were no more than 2-3 times as powerful as the PS2/Xbox, whereas the GPU was leaps and bounds above it's predecessor.

You can argue that consoles don't need very powerful CPU's, but the fact remains, Halo (a first-gen title) pushed the xbox CPU almost to it's limits (in certains sections of co-op).

Nipples
10-05-2005, 06:11 PM
Niether of the characters were sam. In the begging of the teaser it says that it is it's online play. The only online play is spy vs merc and coop so no none could be sam. Check the begining of the fotage it says online play.

NIP

CaliberRed
10-05-2005, 06:18 PM
just to let you know its coming out in march or spring 2006 march times frame thats 5 months not that far

psyichic
10-05-2005, 06:36 PM
lets not turn this into a PC vs Console argument here. For all we know they are pretty much equal. The PS3 is roughly the same as the 7800 GTX but we dont have many specs on it. The 360 we dont know much about either. So we can say they are all roughly even. I do agree that that video we saw was completely pre rendered seeing as that would never be any type of online play for real. Who would wantr to see their spy stubmle on a beam like that or watch them ambush a merc and get body slammed? Also the dropplets of sweat are stupid. What are you gonna say mercs can now hear the sweat falling? No that doesnt work. What im guessing is that is just a teaser of SvM now on the SC3 engine. Not any new engine is my guess seeing as this is only a year after the SC3 release then that would be WAY to short of a time to modify an engine that isnt even fully out yet.

Vth_F_Smith_
10-05-2005, 06:38 PM
I totally agree on the "Let's not turn this into another PC vs Consoles Thread" Part! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

epikur_2000
10-05-2005, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by spekkio9:

True, but gaming consoles are much more efficient, hence they can get away with lower hardware requirements. Also factor in that consoles don't have to render graphics above 640x480 or whatever proportion TV's use, unlike PC GPU's which need to go upwards of 1600x1200.


That´s only true for the current generation, both XBox-360 and PS3 as well are supposed to support HDTV up to 1080p in a 16:9 ratio, which is interlaced 1920x1080!
PS3 will be powered by a PowerPC based 3.2GHz Cell processor providing 218 gigaflops of floating point processing power and if it´s true what its designers said, PS3 will run 10-times faster than current average PC chips.
That´s quite impressive.

It´s not my turn to defend consoles, I´m PC player, I ´ve never owned a console, but I´m absolutely sure, that my current PC isn´t in a position to compete with next-gen consoles.

IP4 3,2 Gh (32 bit)
Geforce 6800 GT Golden Sample
2048 MB DDram 400 Corsair TwinX

I´ve never thought of buying a console until now, but I think I will, since it seems to be a lot of cheaper than to invest into an equal PC-system.
Nobody knows exactly what graphics the future consoles will be able to handle, we´ll just have to wait and see, I guess.

sb85
10-05-2005, 08:06 PM
i agree with epikur, pc's will evolve faster than the consoles, but it gets way way expensive. instead of shelling out 2grand on a pc, a 1grand pc and 500$ console is much better

FlamingGimp
10-05-2005, 08:37 PM
I'm not here to debate between consoles and PC's, to each his own.

This article is interesting though, it was taken down from Anandtech shortly after it was posted.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.sony-pla...ff83d96ea78ea9?hl=en (http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.sony-playstation2/msg/62ff83d96ea78ea9?hl=en)

lochang19
10-05-2005, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by Spekkio9:
Jeez, you guys are fools. This video is nothing more than an advertising stint to get everyone excited and talking about SC4, which isn't going to be out for another 6 months at least.

...and the happy by-product is to get us to stop talking about the new PC/Xbox co-op maps that haven't been released, as well as polar base, the new SvM map, as well as ANY (read: any!) SvM support, some of which we've been asking for since Pandora Tomorrow. I think UBI thinks SvM is perfect since the beta patch, because they certainly haven't given ANY (read: any!) attention to it since then. Just move on to the next title and hope no one notices how badly we screwed everyone over in the previous ones. Thanks for the SvM map editor, now how about making sure the SvM game actually WORKS the way it should. But why should you when <100 people play on any given day? There's much more profitable things for you to do. Meanwhile, the hardcore fan base is royally teed off.

Iservealot
10-05-2005, 11:33 PM
also, you must realize that PC and Cousel are diffrent. They use diffrent algorythems, and they also can do diffrent things. The cell chip is pretty neat, but the ps3 cannot out due a pc in frams per second, becuase 2 7800 gtx's in SLI whoop on it. whats the point of having a fast CPU, and have it limited by the number of calculations that the GPU can do? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

element54
10-06-2005, 12:03 AM
who cares about all that. well i kinda do too. anyhow if i can hook a gamepad and mouse to the XBox i might actually invest in one too. Still not likely thou. Wasn't this topic about Splinter Cell anyhow. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Talon1986
10-06-2005, 12:30 AM
And this section is xbox related...man a lot of people are starting to go on about pc's.

cheese_thief
10-06-2005, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by Talon1986:
And this section is xbox related...man a lot of people are starting to go on about pc's.

Well, it originated in the PC forums.

Then it got linked to from the others.

That's why it's a big, cross-platform thread.


Man, I am not looking forward to this game one bit. It's just gonna be all like CT over again. I just know they're gonna **** it up, and then they're gonna leave it out in the cold to die, just like (gasp) PT and CT!

GhostRiderLSOV
10-06-2005, 12:47 AM
edit: Holy Forum Links, Batman. :P
Oh well, we'll just have to wait and see what'll it be like.
Like Spekkio said, there'll be the usual chaos and havoc for the demos and stuff and the release. And when it's out "bugs galore!".
(Btw, wasn't SC4's name something-something galore? Or was it a fake? I have lost many episodes. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

myee8
10-06-2005, 12:58 AM
Umm so when exactly is Sprin 06? You can tell i am not from the US (Australia in fact), so if someone could give me a hint as to the mth/s Spring 06 is in, it'd be greatly appreciated! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

MR.Mic
10-06-2005, 05:00 AM
I love how for each new generation of consoles, a new group of fanatics announce the "Death of PC Gaming". But every time that happens, we just keep on playing.

I have always loved the feeling you get sitting fully erect in a chair. The personal man-to-man feeling you get when sitting 18 inches away from a computer screen. The grip of a mouse in one hand, and an array of keys on the other. As well as the precision and accuracy you can only get from using such devices. The PC provides a gaming experience that the console just fails to capture for me.

Bionic-Blob
10-06-2005, 05:22 AM
the tv makes my head feel funny after playing a while on the xbox :/

anyhoo, its true, when specs for consoles are released (like 1/2-1 year before launch) every1 is astounded at how powerful it is although when its released it is pretty much just above the mid-high-end pc (if not lower)

pdogsniper
10-06-2005, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by myee8:
Umm so when exactly is Sprin 06? You can tell i am not from the US (Australia in fact), so if someone could give me a hint as to the mth/s Spring 06 is in, it'd be greatly appreciated! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Spring '06 might be anywhere from (calendar dates) Mid-march, through Mid-june.

Bionic-Blob
10-06-2005, 08:18 AM
is 'fall' the actual name they've given to autumn in the US?

i never knew what it meant until bout a year ago o_O (u can imagine the confusion)

MR.Mic
10-06-2005, 08:19 AM
Fall and autumn are indeed interchangable in the US.

Terrax213
10-06-2005, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by cheese_thief:


Man, I am not looking forward to this game one bit. It's just gonna be all like CT over again. I just know they're gonna **** it up

QFE

Between that shallow "teaser" which is nothing more than a hype fueler, bewaresamfisher.com with its bs "search begins in November" message, and the general direction the SC series has taken since the original ... it's looking like Ubi is gonna overhype the hell out of SC4.

splinterz_2
10-06-2005, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by Terrax213:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cheese_thief:


Man, I am not looking forward to this game one bit. It's just gonna be all like CT over again. I just know they're gonna **** it up

QFE

Between that shallow "teaser" which is nothing more than a hype fueler, bewaresamfisher.com with its bs "search begins in November" message, and the general direction the SC series has taken since the original ... it's looking like Ubi is gonna overhype the hell out of SC4. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who cares... aslong as the game is good

switch-spy.CF
10-06-2005, 09:14 AM
yea il hope well have a nice complitation trailer soon ^^

cheese_thief
10-06-2005, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by MR.Mic:
I love how for each new generation of consoles, a new group of fanatics announce the "Death of PC Gaming". But every time that happens, we just keep on playing.

I have always loved the feeling you get sitting fully erect in a chair. The personal man-to-man feeling you get when sitting 18 inches away from a computer screen. The grip of a mouse in one hand, and an array of keys on the other. As well as the precision and accuracy you can only get from using such devices. The PC provides a gaming experience that the console just fails to capture for me.

I'd rather just use my mind rays to control my character onscreen, which the Xbox 360 lets you do with an adapter!

I.S.F-Dixxhead
10-06-2005, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by epikur_2000:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
Originally posted by spekkio9:

True, but gaming consoles are much more efficient, hence they can get away with lower hardware requirements. Also factor in that consoles don't have to render graphics above 640x480 or whatever proportion TV's use, unlike PC GPU's which need to go upwards of 1600x1200.


...both Xbox 360 and PS3 as well are supposed to support HDTV up to 1080p in a 16:9 ratio, which is interlaced 1920x1080!... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, actually there is a mistake. First of all, the Xbox 360 will most prbably only have a secure supprot for 720p (1280*720) where the p stands for progressive scan. Now, it also supports 1080i (i= interlaced) which is supported by all HD-Ready TVs but there is only a few number of displays with the actual number of Pixels (1920*1080). The Ps3 then again promises 1080p (again, p=progressive= better than interlaced) which the HD-Ready TVs don't have to support, or with other words, only really, really expensive TVs will be able to display at the best effect. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

lochang19
10-06-2005, 01:23 PM
U guys know ubi is just using its leet hax rite lolololol

C.A.T.ops_v2.0
10-06-2005, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by lochang19:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spekkio9:
Jeez, you guys are fools. This video is nothing more than an advertising stint to get everyone excited and talking about SC4, which isn't going to be out for another 6 months at least.

...and the happy by-product is to get us to stop talking about the new PC/Xbox co-op maps that haven't been released, as well as polar base, the new SvM map, as well as ANY (read: any!) SvM support, some of which we've been asking for since Pandora Tomorrow. I think UBI thinks SvM is perfect since the beta patch, because they certainly haven't given ANY (read: any!) attention to it since then. Just move on to the next title and hope no one notices how badly we screwed everyone over in the previous ones. Thanks for the SvM map editor, now how about making sure the SvM game actually WORKS the way it should. But why should you when <100 people play on any given day? There's much more profitable things for you to do. Meanwhile, the hardcore fan base is royally teed off. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

|-|4x + QFE

1 4gr33 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

BigSlim_UK
10-06-2005, 04:41 PM
Ops you barely post anymore, where you been?

Dare i say it.... I miss the days you spammed the forums constantly:P

C.A.T.ops_v2.0
10-06-2005, 06:43 PM
Spamming??? SMURFING??? BIGSLIM gmoqbbftw... I have never ever EVER done either!!!

In other words, Junior year kills. And so do standardized tests. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

m4_007
10-06-2005, 06:48 PM
As i said in other posts, watch ya back Ops, Smith might get your Neck, and you dont want that to happend do you ?

C.A.T.ops_v2.0
10-06-2005, 06:57 PM
M4 J00R L33T H4X D0NT SC4R3 M3!!1

m4_007
10-06-2005, 07:25 PM
Sorry Catty, how's ya Ub3r C4T Sk!115 d0!ng ?

Omg, that was an hard one ... some of us dont have the l33t writting in their genetic code.

Raakile91
10-07-2005, 05:20 AM
Let's just hope that ubi has learned something about their mistakes in both PT an CT and AG definetly HAS something good in it...

P4ntherC.A.T.
10-07-2005, 06:00 AM
I'm just glad it said working title, so it may not be SCAG.

Vth_F_Smith_
10-07-2005, 06:01 AM
Originally posted by P4ntherC.A.T.:
I'm just glad it said working title, so it may not be SCAG. It won't be SCAG, don't worry! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

dX.Gurgaue
10-07-2005, 06:58 AM
Just noticed this topic...

I cant wait so long... I wanna get it now!!!

Vth_F_Smith_
10-07-2005, 07:02 AM
Originally posted by dX.Gurgaue:
Just noticed this topic...

I cant wait so long... I wanna get it now!!! No Problem! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif All you have to do is to drive / fly (depends on your current Location) over to the Dev Studio's and help the Dev's with the Development because the sooner they're done with that and the Polishing, the faster you'll get the Game! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

cellfan88
10-07-2005, 12:26 PM
Lol^^
Splinter Cell 4 sounds great! I hope it lives up to whats expected.

Jackie Fiest
10-07-2005, 12:26 PM
Is that all it would take...?

>picks up purse, grabs Derwen and heads out the door<

We are on our way.

Derwen_Llewelyn
10-07-2005, 12:33 PM
LOL! Heey..i 4got my folder-o-drawings!!

*grabs folder*

Jackie Fiest
10-07-2005, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Derwen_Llewelyn:
LOL! Heey..i 4got my folder-o-drawings!!

*grabs folder*

LOL Derwen...

>drags Derwen and her folder out door<

Derwen_Llewelyn
10-07-2005, 12:51 PM
Umm...sis..uuhh..why are ya dragging me? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Cos...ya know how i love this game!!!

And btw the airport is slow, lets borrow Dr. Kleiner's teleport mashine. lol

Jackie Fiest
10-07-2005, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by Derwen_Llewelyn:
Umm...sis..uuhh..why are ya dragging me? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Cos...ya know how i love this game!!!

I don't think Imma be able to wait until Spring >twitch< http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif


And btw the airport is slow, lets borrow Dr. Kleiner's teleport mashine. lol

LOL Whatever is quickest hun..Need my fix!

Vth_F_Smith_
10-07-2005, 01:05 PM
*taps his Com Badge* "Mr. O'Brien, beam them up! Energize!" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Jackie Fiest
10-07-2005, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:
*taps his Com Badge* "Mr. O'Brien, beam them up! Energize!" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

LOL Cool Com badge. I need one of those....I broke my OPSAT. =( http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif And notice Derwen didn't draw me one! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Derwen_Llewelyn
10-07-2005, 01:13 PM
*draws a com badge on a small paper*

*gives the sketch to Jackie*

there. Lambo wont miss ya. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Jackie Fiest
10-07-2005, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by Derwen_Llewelyn:
*draws a combadge on a small paper*

*gives the sketch to Jackie*

there. Lambo wont miss ya. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

LOL Thanks Derwen. YaY!

Now I just to fix my OPSAT and I will be dandy.

Si-Duck-
10-07-2005, 04:10 PM
Argh... I hate it when all they give you is advertising, selling and marketing propaganda I mean if you look properly they haven't said anything we didnt already know. Nothing about SC4 just how great is gonna be and how succesfull the previous titles have been etc.

ipsor
10-07-2005, 04:33 PM
The Grafiks will never look that good.
And there'll never be color T.Vs..... Think about that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

BigPimpin305
10-07-2005, 11:07 PM
Will SC4 be available for the current gen xbox?

BigPimpin305
10-07-2005, 11:08 PM
i really dont have the money to buy the xbox360 and my comps video card sucks so if someone knows if it is coming for the current gen xbox tell me PLEASE!

HorTyS
10-07-2005, 11:39 PM
yes, it is coming to all current gen systems, xbox 360 and PC.

zephyrus17
10-10-2005, 06:17 AM
Digressing slightly, I never liked Chaos Theory's intro movie. Unlike Pandora Tomorrow's, which was a storyline movie. CT's looked more like just a show of all the new gadgets and moves of Sam Fisher, and none of the storyline.
I hope they could bring back the storyline intro movie for Splinter Cell 4.

Jackie Fiest
10-10-2005, 07:03 AM
You know, I noticed the same thing.

I understand why the beginning movie was that way as it was a new game in a new series etc....but as established as SC was by the time CT came out, I was hoping more a little more as well.

shadow_ninja961
10-10-2005, 09:19 AM
i watched that video and it said at the beginning it was a demo of the online game. so it wasn't sam fisher in single player,it was a spy in the spies vs mercs game that got his arm twisted by the merc. but it looked cool anyway.

i don't know if anyone else saw that it was an online demo, but i read some of the posts here and it seems some people thought it was a scene from the single player game.
what do you think?

Jackie Fiest
10-10-2005, 09:36 AM
I know it was online trailer but that's why it kinda of upsets me.

I was at a mesage board about the movie at the IMDB and people are now calling for Sam to retire and they guy from the trailer to take his place!!!

CaliberRed
10-10-2005, 04:43 PM
i dont think they should get rid of sam he is the defination of a american bada**

Jackie Fiest
10-10-2005, 08:22 PM
I agree. Some people just don't know a good thing when they see it...they just want the next big thing.

Talon1986
10-11-2005, 09:50 PM
omg no they better not take fisher away.. at least for this one. It would be like putting Luigi in Mario's place http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Chimera87
10-11-2005, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by ipsor:
The Grafiks will never look that good.
And there'll never be color T.Vs..... Think about that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif <span class="ev_code_BLUE">well then howcome ive got a color tv here at my room http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif</span>

H2O-water
10-12-2005, 06:38 AM
My analyze of video:
That guy on pipe - SAM fisher, but he is to weak to fight the merc...so merc twisted his arm and while he was neutrilized the third echelon elite spys(aka Versus spys)in masks on the lower part of face, came to help Fisher. Conclusion: Video showing the weakness of Fisher against new guards. I dont know why but i think that guy on a pipe is Sam Fisher. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif But most of the people tells that its not him. I dont believe them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

IllumiC.A.T.
10-12-2005, 07:48 AM
For some reason I don€t believe this €œPromo€ video will have anything to do with the final version. It€s all about starting a buzz which will interest fans as well as potential fans in to the SC series. Think about it like this, this video was meant to get people talking which it has obviously done. Don€t get your hopes up.

Spekkio9
10-12-2005, 08:51 AM
Illumi, I said that on page 1 or two...it falls on deaf ears http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Eclyps3
10-12-2005, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by Spekkio9:
Illumi, I said that on page 1 or two...it falls on deaf ears http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Nobody listens to you anyway :P

malgo87
10-12-2005, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by H2O-water:
My analyze of video:
That guy on pipe - SAM fisher, but he is to weak to fight the merc...

I don´t think, it´s Sam - much to young...
@Chimera: Is that a dutch flag in your sig?
@Talon1986: Yes, you´re right - would be very bad, if sam had to leave the stealthy way of life^^

Chimera87
10-12-2005, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by malgo87:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2O-water:
My analyze of video:
That guy on pipe - SAM fisher, but he is to weak to fight the merc...

I don´t think, it´s Sam - much to young...
@Chimera: Is that a dutch flag in your sig?
@Talon1986: Yes, you´re right - would be very bad, if sam had to leave the stealthy way of life^^ </div></BLOCKQUOTE> <span class="ev_code_BLUE">jep it is and in the lower one its Holland, Finland (clanleaders http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ), Malta (member), England and America (didnt know any other flags http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif)</span>

malgo87
10-12-2005, 01:02 PM
Juchhui, I´m from the Netherlands http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

SoFSpyy
10-23-2005, 11:07 PM
SC4?! OH YES!! OH YES!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

cheese_thief
10-23-2005, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by SoFSpyy:
SC4?! OH YES!! OH YES!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Calm dow a bit, then post.

Zedblade
10-24-2005, 12:10 AM
yay, another chance for ubisoft to dissapoint its fans and leave us all out in the rain with crappy support and buggy gamemodes. Yippee . . .

DarKA55ASSIN
10-24-2005, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by Zedblade:
yay, another chance for ubisoft to dissapoint its fans and leave us all out in the rain with crappy support and buggy gamemodes. Yippee . . .
hahahaha http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Mastermind_451
01-08-2006, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by GhostRiderLSOV:
edit: Holy Forum Links, Batman. :P
Oh well, we'll just have to wait and see what'll it be like.
Like Spekkio said, there'll be the usual chaos and havoc for the demos and stuff and the release. And when it's out "bugs galore!".
(Btw, wasn't SC4's name something-something galore? Or was it a fake? I have lost many episodes. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

I think it was Anarchy Galore.

scworld
01-08-2006, 04:47 PM
Next time, please take a look at the date before you post http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
It was over 2 months old.

Talon1986
01-08-2006, 07:03 PM
I have to say at first I was a bit iffy when I heard of the turn splintercell was taking with the upcoming installment, but thanks to being fed info by drip I can safely say I am really looking forward to this one http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Iservealot
01-08-2006, 07:06 PM
teh video came from UBI sfot Annecy. Annecy has nothing to do with Sam fisher. They are creating the online portion of the game. just like in versus, it has NOTHING to do with sam fisher.

joeyhalo999
01-10-2006, 05:28 PM
Woah!!!! That video is suspenseful and serious.
This will probably be the most intense splinter cell game ever made!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif