That lame mine on the Greek Door, Tech side.

[St0rm_5had0w]

Is thier a way to defeat that from the Greek side other than just avoiding hacking Greek?

[St0rm_5had0w]

Is thier a way to defeat that from the Greek side other than just avoiding hacking Greek?

[DrCactus]

Not that I am aware of.
To me it's an exploit and bad form.

Chaffing it won't help. Shooting it out, gets you killed.

The only way around is to get the merc to shoot it early and have you not die.

[MR.Mic]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by St0rm_5had0w:
Is thier a way to defeat that from the Greek side other than just avoiding hacking Greek? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes

One guy goes tech, the other goes greek. One shoots the mine off or removes it manually, and the other hacks.

It's not an exploit as there are tons of other mines in this game that have to be removed by going around to the other side of the wall, or through teamwork.


If anyone wants to use it against me, by all means, go ahead.

[Spekkio9]

How about just using a well placed spy bullet and running the f*** away when he gets near the mine? The merc obviously can't come through the door cuz then he's a dead man.

Just because a mine is hard to bypass doesn't mean it's lame. It's just well-placed.

[Chimera87]

It's whatever you call "lame". I call glitchmines lame and refuse to use em. This mine is complete legit. (I think)

[Mi5erablE1984]

this mine is easy to disarm. Just CROUCH (dont stay) near the comp and shoot it. U wont die and don't lose any hp.

[Frelli.]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mi5erablE1984:
this mine is easy to disarm. Just CROUCH (dont stay) near the comp and shoot it. U wont die and don't lose any hp. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
LOLOLOLL SCORPION PWNS U ALL!!!1!!

[Chimera87]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Frelli.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mi5erablE1984:
this mine is easy to disarm. Just CROUCH (dont stay) near the comp and shoot it. U wont die and don't lose any hp. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
LOLOLOLL SCORPION PWNS U ALL!!!1!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

[Eclyps3]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mi5erablE1984:
this mine is easy to disarm. Just CROUCH (dont stay) near the comp and shoot it. U wont die and don't lose any hp. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanx.

[Toshi_]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mi5erablE1984:
this mine is easy to disarm. Just CROUCH (dont stay) near the comp and shoot it. U wont die and don't lose any hp. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Even more glitchy way of disarming a glitch mine... Yummy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And about the mine itself - it IS a glitch, cause the explosion should blow out the door first and THEN it would be able to damage the spy near the PC.
Since the game's physics system is so primitive (even HL2's Havock is weak compared to real physics but nvm xD), the blast travels in a straight line through the holes in the door without losing any energy so it works just like the spy was standing next to the mine.
And even if it was some kind of a blast door, it would absorb 90% (or more) of the energy and anyone near the PC would be unharmed.
Or at least he would feel some warm air http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Spartan_M.A.D.]

What mine is this, exactly? I'm confused.

[acdx]

That lame mine on the Greek Door, Tech side.

[eTo-NoSiS106]

the mine isnt a glitch, the explosion comes through the holes on the door

the way to shoot it isnt a glitch either, hence why you need to stay crouched, so the blast dmg that comes through the holes misses you

[acdx]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">the explosion comes through the holes on the door </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I truly, honestly doubt that.

[Kix.Ck]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by acdx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">the explosion comes through the holes on the door </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I truly, honestly doubt that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It's true. When mines explode, the games see if there is an unobstructed pathway between the originating point the the explosion and your hit box. The holes in the door allow for this line-of-sight connection. The same goes for detonating the mine.

This also makes the mine not a glitch, rather a devious tactic made possible by SCCT gamplay rules.

[scworld]

So any point on the hitbox will do AND you need to be in the blast radius to get hurt?

[Spartan_M.A.D.]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by acdx:
That lame mine on the Greek Door, Tech side. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Gee, thanks.

[Mi5erablE1984]

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/5051/beztytuu7pf.jpg

and easy way to disarm it. From here ,when u shoot the mine u lose 2/3 of ur life.http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6/11lm3.jpg

But ,if u can see it from this posision
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/2305/26pr2.jpg
u don't lose any hp.

[Spartan_M.A.D.]

Ahhh, that's a new one (for me). I don't think anyone's ever used that against me.

[Kix.Ck]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by scworld:
So any point on the hitbox will do AND you need to be in the blast radius to get hurt? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Essentially.

[Iryxian2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spartan_M.A.D.:
Ahhh, that's a new one (for me). I don't think anyone's ever used that against me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You've quite like 10 times, which is it?!

[DU.Test-Subject]

I just saw it once nor really well doh
Can't you just chaff it?

[Spartan_M.A.D.]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Iryxian2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spartan_M.A.D.:
Ahhh, that's a new one (for me). I don't think anyone's ever used that against me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You've quite like 10 times, which is it?! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif That made no sense whatsoever.

[lildude21]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DU.Test-Subject:
I just saw it once nor really well doh
Can't you just chaff it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> No because 1 the merc is just standing there and has to snipe it... and 2. It blows up after u finish greek hack and u die cause if u put it in there right it blows up when the door opens

[eTo-NoSiS106]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by acdx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">the explosion comes through the holes on the door </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I truly, honestly doubt that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

like kix said, explosions work on a line of sight system in svm, this is why you can avoid nades by being on the other side of a chair etc etc

[Iryxian2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spartan_M.A.D.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Iryxian2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spartan_M.A.D.:
Ahhh, that's a new one (for me). I don't think anyone's ever used that against me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You've quite like 10 times, which is it?! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif That made no sense whatsoever. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> You quit CT then come back. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Edit:..hehehe

[Bionic-Blob]

oh i get it, you QUIT.

yes

QUIT
QUIT
QUIT

he quits quite a lot.

[Iryxian2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bionic-Blob:
oh i get it, you QUIT.

yes

QUIT
QUIT
QUIT

he quits quite a lot. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

[Daedalus.]

What if the door is opening while the mine blows up?
I don't think you'll get killed then...

[Duck_Soup]

can you shoot a chaff through the window?

[Spartan_M.A.D.]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Iryxian2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spartan_M.A.D.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Iryxian2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spartan_M.A.D.:
Ahhh, that's a new one (for me). I don't think anyone's ever used that against me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You've quite like 10 times, which is it?! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif That made no sense whatsoever. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> You quit CT then come back. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Edit:..hehehe </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Lol. Iry, you're a nifty little guy &lt;3

[Iryxian2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spartan_M.A.D.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Iryxian2:
You quit CT then come back. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Edit:..hehehe </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Lol. Iry, you're a nifty little guy &lt;3 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Aww, shucks. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif

[horror1985]

Idk but i tried tons of times blowing the spy up with that mine but even when i shoot it while his hacking still doesent kill him.

Btw placing the mine right beside the door and moving away opens the door and kills u.

[vega13]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spartan_M.A.D.:
Lol. Iry, you're a nifty little guy &lt;3 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

YOU BACK OFF PERSIAN! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[Chimera87]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by vega13:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spartan_M.A.D.:
Lol. Iry, you're a nifty little guy &lt;3 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

YOU BACK OFF PERSIAN! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[token32]

What is that mine 4? I know to attempt to kill the spy but under what conditions and where r they suppose to be?

[Spartan_M.A.D.]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by vega13:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spartan_M.A.D.:
Lol. Iry, you're a nifty little guy &lt;3 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

YOU BACK OFF PERSIAN! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

[Iryxian2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by token32:
What is that mine 4? I know to attempt to kill the spy but under what conditions and where r they suppose to be? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Shoot it whenever a spy is hacking, instant kill.

Vega: &lt;333

[acdx]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kix.Ck:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by acdx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">the explosion comes through the holes on the door </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I truly, honestly doubt that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It's true. When mines explode, the games see if there is an unobstructed pathway between the originating point the the explosion and your hit box. The holes in the door allow for this line-of-sight connection. The same goes for detonating the mine.

This also makes the mine not a glitch, rather a devious tactic made possible by SCCT gamplay rules. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Guess I'll have to believe it