View Full Version : Wartime Cartoons
02-03-2007, 09:36 AM
We've had some brilliant propaganda poster threads. Anyone else interested in (non-moving) cartoons? Here are a couple to start off with; the first a German one from WW1 (April 1916) and with a U-boat theme:
THE VALUABLE CARGO
"All right men, the old lady with the blue glasses is an American. Nobody save her by mistake if we're torpedoed."
I like the thuggish British crew!
This one is by British cartoonist David Low from October 1935. It's a comment on Mussolini's invasion of Abyssinia:
02-03-2007, 11:01 AM
Interesting stuff Bockholt http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
A couple of cartoons I found in my picture collection:
(no info on this, sorry!)
(this one isn't strictly a cartoon, but I thought you'd like to see it, especially as it's from WW1 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )
Have you seen the 'Tigerfibel'? I have a reprinted copy I bought from eBay. It's a cartoon-illustrated instruction manual of the Tiger tank, designed for easy comprehension, now considered to be a classic piece of information design. There's an online version here:
BTW, Bockholt - did you get my response to your PM?
02-03-2007, 11:15 AM
I LOVE the Tiger fibel http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Its an allegory for military instruction manuals in general. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Keep it SIMPLE, use colored PICTURES, make sure that even the greatest moron understands it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
Put drawings of naked women in the manual and they WILL look it through. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
You might save lifes and expensive equipment with that. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Because ....you know...military personnel ........not the sharpest tools in the shed. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
02-03-2007, 01:17 PM
naked women...and a sausage (p.83)!
Wanted to post another, but having irritating Internet probs. More soon, but do post yours in the meantime everybody.
02-03-2007, 03:13 PM
Can any of you German-speaking people pleeease translate what VG's posters say? Thanks in advance! Wait, it doesn't look like German.. Anywho, someone who gets it, please translate
02-03-2007, 07:26 PM
I got a couple:
Can some one translate this one?
Dr. Suess WWII Cartoons (http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/speccoll/dspolitic/Hitler.html)
And I can find a lot more if you want....
02-04-2007, 01:14 AM
Die letzte Mann = The last man, Foehammer. Gothic script (which the nazis liked) makes it tricky to decipher, but the picture tells you a good deal about the general idea of the verse!
Love the GI shooting his jeep by the Cat in the Hat's Dr Seuss http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Here's a classic from Giles (April 1944):
02-04-2007, 01:21 AM
Basically he didn't let the sacred flag get wet & went on defiantly shouting "Hurrah for the Kaiser and Fatherland!"
Not this flag http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif
02-04-2007, 02:19 AM
The pic with the cavalry GI finishing off his jeep reminds me of an MASH episode. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
A tank gets out of control and drives over Colonel Potters jeep (He too was member of the cavalry in ww-1)
He walks towards the jeep making http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif , takes his pistol and finishes the jeep off while saying "Farewell my friend..."
It would be too complex to translate that verses and the rhyme would also perish.
But Bockholt is right , the pic tells it all.
The last surviving sailor holds up the flag until he himself goes down under the huge waves.
02-04-2007, 03:58 PM
Ohh guys, I meant the one above the guy wth a flag. One with a guy on a u-boot conn and planes.
@ Golden Eagle, Hitler is strangled with a scarf or whatever, that says "agreement, (synonym to agreement,) between USSR, England and USA
02-04-2007, 11:31 PM
Isn't that Portuguese? Don't really know any, but guess it says something like CLAIMS OF GERMAN NEWSPAPERS, quotes them saying that the U-boats are defeating the British, then shows the opposite happening in reality. Is it from Portugal or Brazil?
Here's one by 'Paul Crum', real name Roger Pettiward, who was killed in the 1942 Dieppe Raid. When he wasn't being an artist he was a Commando officer:
This is by 'Pont' (Graham Laidler)who tragically died of TB in 1940:
"How dare you come in here..."
Amazing that this wasn't banned, as it seems to suggest that heavily-armed German paras will arrive unnoticed! Essentially the same joke we all know from Dad's Army.
02-05-2007, 11:01 AM
Here's some more:
Theres some more here (http://www.psywarrior.com/AxisLeadersMonsters.html).
02-05-2007, 11:27 AM
Anyone remembers the old newspaper cartoon Backdraft57 posted here a while ago ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I really love that one it has a typical german theme of that time.
A cartoon ad instead of an propaganda one
1. It has been a long marsh but the song still sounds fresh and happy.
2. Peter: "Why dont you sing with us , so the marching feels easier again"
3. Paul: "....when your throat feels rough and dry from all the dust....."
4. Peter: "...... then you take a cough drop from Wybert. Wybert protects your throat from cough and makes your voice clear again."
In the down left is an ad for an hair remover liquid for ladys. It says it won a prize in London in 1936 and smells nice. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
02-05-2007, 01:45 PM
Entschuldigen Sie Kamerad Celeon! Auf Englisch "Marsh" heiss "Sumpf". "Marsch" = "march". Gruesse!
02-05-2007, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by Bockholt:
Entschuldigen Sie Kamerad Celeon! Auf Englisch "Marsh" heiss "Sumpf". "Marsch" = "march". Gruesse!
Yes, of course you hast recht Kamerad ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
02-05-2007, 11:47 PM
Considering that Germany makes rather good COLD BEER I'm surprised Paul didn't punch the jerk with the cough sweets!
Here's one from Osbert Lancaster:
02-07-2007, 03:14 PM
Come on you lot! Hasn't anyone else got some more cartoons to post? Particularly want to see Central Powers/Axis ones.
Here's a German example from 1917 that made me laugh, "Queen Mary of England plants a Potato":
02-08-2007, 04:34 PM
Heres some more:
These (http://www.multicians.org/thvv/mulvaney.html) are pretty funny.
Here (http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fs earch%2Fimages%3Fp%3DWWII%2Bcartoon%26toggle%3D1%2 6cop%3Dmss%26ei%3DUTF-8%26qp_p%3Dwwii%2Bcartoon%26imgsz%3Dall%26fr%3Dyfp-t-501%26b%3D81&w=631&h=855&imgurl=www.autobahn.mb.ca%2F%7Ehet%2Fpictures%2Fca rtoon2.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.autobahn.mb.ca%2F%7Ehet%2Fpi ctures%2Fcartoons.html&size=132.6kB&name=cartoon2.jpg&p=WWII+cartoon&type=jpeg&no=95&tt=230&oid=a518519e15b2b40a&ei=UTF-8) is a lot of pretty good ones.
02-09-2007, 01:29 AM
Those Dr Seuss ones are amazing because they are so similar to his children's characters!
Interesting how crudely racist the British & Americans always were against the Japanese in WW2 cartoons/propaganda.
German racial stereotypes of the British are also worth noting. Apart from John Bull (who can be made jolly, stout & positive by the Allies as well as the fat forbidding bully the Germans draw), there is this cruel, pipe-smoking character who appears in WW1:
...and in WW2:
The pipe & top hat don't really go together, do they? Were they thinking of Chamberlain and Sir Anthony Eden?!?
02-09-2007, 03:10 AM
02-09-2007, 09:26 AM
WW-1 u-boat warfare cartoons http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif
02-09-2007, 01:15 PM
Hitler sick with fear at the size and force of the British Navy.
Here are some WWI ones
02-09-2007, 11:09 PM
In the one above with Colonel Graham, is the guy with 'Anti Military Principles' Lindberg? The trunk is labelled with initials 'OK'. Is he another anti-interventionist from WW1?
Also, along with the list of famous US Forts on the trunk, it says 'Alcatraz'. Was the Rock once a military or naval base? Obviously not in the 1940s when Al Capone and the Birdman were in there!
Can anyone explain?
02-11-2007, 05:28 AM
02-11-2007, 12:17 PM
Nothing to do with cartoons, but I came across these images, particularly interesting to modellers:
Hitler looking quite interested in his 50th birthday present from the Luftwaffe. The thin Luftwaffe officer is his Air Adjutant, Nicolaus von Below. The good-looking undecorated man on the left is, I think, Albert Speer. The other fellow looks like Leonardo di Caprio!
President Roosevelt inspecting a model of an escort carrier presented by Henry J. Kaiser. It is a beautiful model & I wonder if it can be seen in any US Naval museum? Or is it still in the White House?
Can anyone find pictures of Churchill, Stalin or Mussolini looking at scale models of their countries' hardware?
02-11-2007, 01:10 PM
The good-looking undecorated man on the left is, I think, Albert Speer. The other fellow looks like Leonardo di Caprio!
Yes thats definitly Albert Speer. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
I also remembered the face of the guy in the back but it was not Leonardo di Caprio who came into my mind....
I knew i had seen his face somewhere.
So i went down into the huge (and very detailed) secret intelligence archives http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif under my post-socialistic apartment house and found the photo i was searching for. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
I believe this man is SS-Obersturmbannführer Maximilian Wünsche (1.SS Panzer Corps)
Here you can see him handing the results of a "Winterhilfswerksammlung" over to Hitler.
(Notice the nose and the eyebrowses)
He was "famous" so to say.
So it is quite possible that he was invited to Hitler's birthday.
In the left is his boss Heinrich Himmler.
02-11-2007, 03:34 PM
Good work Celeon! The Stasi (or at least the Young Pioneers) trained you well... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
It seems from von Below's memoirs that Wuensch, with the rank of Hauptsturmfuehrer, was an orderly at Obersalzberg in October 1940. The 'house manager' Willy Kannenberg complained to Hitler himself about the SS orderlies with the result that 'Wuensch was sent back at once to the Leibstandarte.' This is the only reference to Wuensch, whom he calls Max, in von Below's published text. A typical piece of nazi in-fighting!
What was Wuensch's subsequent career?
02-13-2007, 03:02 PM
Celeon even reached the next level and became a "Thälmann pioneer" everything regarding his further career is classified http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif Of course http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I am denying simply everything http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif
But back to Max Wünsche....
His given name was Maximilian but it seems like he always used the short form Max which is also to be found in his personal files from the Waffen-SS.
Celeon went a second time down into archives to gather even more informations :
I hope this satisfies Ludwig's knowledge hunger. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Born on 20.04.1914 in Kittlitz
1928 : Wünsche learned the profession of a Tradesman
1933 : He enters the inner circle of Hitlers private bodyguards LSSAH (Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler)
1935-36 : Training at the SS Academy in Tölz, gets later promoted SS-Untersturmführer.
1938 : Promotion to SS-Obersturmführer. Transfered to the Obersalzberg to become Hitler's personal adjutant.
Was fired out of this position on 18.10.1940 after an nasty little intrigue started by Arthur Kannenberg.
Transfered to a front command. Also served in the Division "Hitlerjugend"
Last rank : SS-Obersturmbannfüher and Regiment Commander
Died on 17.04.1995 in Wuppertal
Here he is (The man on the right)
Here are some other pics
Promotion party for Max Wünsche
From left to right
Kurt Meyer, Max Wünsche, Sepp Dietrich, Heinrich Himmler, Hubert Meyer who wrote the history scroll of the Division "Hitlerjugend"
From left to right :
Otto Günsche (The new adjutant of Hitler) , SS-Oberführer Fritz Witt, SS-Obergruppenführer Sepp Dietrich (a cold blooded killer) , SS-Brigadeführer Theodor Wisch, SS-Obersturmbannführer Max Wünsche
02-13-2007, 11:23 PM
Bravo Celeon! You have posted more about him on the Internet than was ever there before. Searches in both German & English were not successful, hampered by the fact that 'Wunsch' = 'wish', a well-used word in German.
His memoirs, or a biography would be fascinating. Obviously a protegee of Himmler's, it is remarkable that Hitler himself looks pleased to greet Wuensch in the picture above. Did the men in the modern photograph know whose hands he had shaken in an earlier existence?
Good to know that he survived the War; I was imagining that he had left his bones on Russia's endless Steppe...
02-13-2007, 11:37 PM
This is an interesting picture of Hitler awarding the Ritterkreuz + Oakleaves to Luftwaffe Major Anton Hackl. The intense look on Hackl's face is remarkable, as is the fact that he's wearing gloves. The other man must be receiving a decoration too, not sure who he is. Typical nazi fireplace (without fire) in the background:
02-14-2007, 01:49 AM
Did the men in the modern photograph know whose hands he had shaken in an earlier existence?
Considering the rest of the Obersalzberg's notables present at the event, yes definitly.
Looks like a "class of 45" reunion to me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Here we have Otto Günsche , Hitler's new and last adjutant. (The man in the white jacket)
He was among the people who carried their dead Führer and his wife out of the bunker to burn the mortal remains outside. Died on 02.10.2003
Gerda Daranowski who belonged to the inner circle around Hitler at the Obersalzberg. Hitler called her Dara to prevent that other people of his staff recognize that she is polish. She married after the war and had the name Gerda Christian until she died on 14.04.1997.
Rochus Misch, radio operator in Hitler's bunker and member of the LSSAH. The last remaining witness of Hitler's suicide. Lives still in Berlin and appears often in documentaries.
02-14-2007, 07:25 AM
Does Ludwig know this place from old b&w photos ? Two men were usally standing there looking down in the valley ,discussing architecture....
02-14-2007, 12:03 PM
Natuerlich! It is Hitler & Speer at Obersalzberg. Some of my books - including biographies of both those men - are still packed away in another part of the Schloss, and I am in der Turm, but you have a copy of this picture I think, Celeon?
I hope you will post it; but here's another wartime cartoon, just to keep the thread on track:
"Station, Herr Major? This is the station" [April 1944]
The great Giles again. What I like about this one is that he is completely unracist about the German people, as represented by the railway worker. In fact he is the same as 'Dad' in the famous 'Giles family' developed after the war - the put-upon Everyman. Also, note the still-smoking engine and the idea of a nazi officer having golf clubs!
02-14-2007, 12:52 PM
I hope you will post it
and then..... I did not find the ones with Speer but i have one with Blondi
And Hitler with foreign office ambassador Walter Hewel and of course....blondi !
I wonder what they were talking about ...
Albert Speer's house still exists and is in wonderful condition. I dont know who lives there now.
Notice the strange tree in front of it that looks like an admonishing hand ! Speer did that.
02-14-2007, 11:54 PM
I sent Igor down to the West Wing with plenty of candles, in search of Speer. He returned, covered in cobwebs as usual, with a book by Gitta Sereny, Albert Speer : His battle with the truth (one of Frau B's). This contains a picture of Maria von Below 'whose husband was Hitler's army adjutant' (!!), rather a glaring error, but I suppose I'll read it one day.
This picture is described as 'The Studio that Speer added to his farmhouse in the Bavarian Alps, which he purchased after the success of his books':
Presumably it is inside the house in Celeon's picture. After Spandau he also had a house in Heidelberg called Schlosswolfsbrunnenweg (= 'Castle Wolfstream Way'). Interestingly there are some rooms built by him in the heart of London (!), the old German Consulate, now something else I think, Waterloo Place.
02-15-2007, 06:48 AM
He also had a seperate studio there.
02-15-2007, 11:30 AM
That must be it.
02-15-2007, 01:06 PM
Look what they did with Hitler's Teahouse last year. Not the "eagles nest" teahouse up on the mountain of course.
The "Eagles Nest" is open to visitors
The entrance to the tunnel
At the top
The air is very thin up there
It is a restaurant today
02-17-2007, 12:31 AM
Celeon's 'In the footsteps of Speer' holiday.
British children's comics were remarkably involved with WW2. Most nazi leaders (and that soft target 'Musso') appeared in such august publications as the Dandy and Beano :
02-27-2007, 11:40 PM
This thread is sinking fast, but here are a couple of WW1 paintings - not really cartoons, but definitely morale-boosting propaganda - to keep it afloat. These are by Felix Schwormstadt:
Being kind to people you've just sunk.
Cocktail hour inside a U boat! Be smart, the Kaiser might see this picture...
02-28-2007, 12:59 AM
Bockholt - I hope I can post it here - maybe somebody hasn't seen them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
02-28-2007, 05:59 PM
Bockholt - I like those Felix Schwormstadt paintings - another fine German marine artist.
I found some more cartoons and paintings you may like:
A WW1 German cartoon postcard, depicting wartime effect of the four elements of fire, air, water and earth:
German ladies wave farewell to the crew of an Imperial Navy U-boat:
A 1914 painting of U-boat men on watch for targets in a storm:
More sailor's songs (poems?)... The quality of these design compositions is amazing:
The famous cruiser and successful surface raider 'Emden':
I think this one translates as 'Pride blows the flag'
Colour print of 'The Last Man' painting I posted earlier in this thread:
02-28-2007, 08:16 PM
Not really a cartoon, but still amusing.
down in the U-17 (http://www.firstworldwar.com/audio/downintheu17.htm)
(note: if you have lower end speakers, it might sound scratchy and static-y)
02-28-2007, 11:31 PM
Thanks GoldenEagle! Enjoyed that silly song. Celeon must translate it into German one evening. Also really like the 'Four Elements' cartoon, the first one Viking Grandad posted. Is it in a letter from the Front by a famous artist?
A couple more by Schwormstadt showing my element, the air (though we were all sailors of course, the army were either afraid, or just not happy without their horses up there). LZ38 raiding England, May 31 1915:
The commander with spectacles is Hauptmann Erich Linnarz(actually he was a soldier, so perhaps I'd better withdraw the remark about the army being afraid). You have to shout in there because there's a huge Maybach C-X engine right behind the bridge...
...and here are the mechanics looking after it. The parabellum may be wishful thinking as such armament was often omitted simply to save weight. Sometimes they carried balsa wood replicas to keep enemy pilots at bay!
03-01-2007, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by Bockholt:
Also really like the 'Four Elements' cartoon, the first one Viking Grandad posted. Is it in a letter from the Front by a famous artist?
It's a postcard written during WW1, but I don't know if the cartoon was printed and the sender added their message, or if the sender actually drew the cartoon. I think I can see the initials 'MR' on there. Know any German WW1 cartoonists/artists with these initials?
I love those Schwormstadt paintings. Do you have a book with his work in?
03-02-2007, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by VikingGrandad:
I love those Schwormstadt paintings. Do you have a book with his work in?
Found them in different old books. He seems to have carefully interviewed sailors and airmen and then reconstructed their descriptions of naval/airship operations. I have black-&-white versions of the Zep pictures too.
When they got back from long raids the luftshiff crews were deaf for several hours and everyone fell over when they were back on terra firma. And of course it was freezing cold up there, even in L59 over Africa. Nowadays it's hard to imagine such voyages.
03-04-2007, 04:54 AM
I've found a site that has a series of WW1 magazine covers by Felix Schwormstaedt:
Illustrations by Felix Schwormstaedt (http://www.greatwardifferent.com/Great_War/Schwormstadt/Schwormstadt_00.htm)
I'm glad I found that website, it's a real treasure trove of WW1 information, photos and paintings - The Great War in a Different Light (http://www.greatwardifferent.com/Great_War/index.htm) (check out the artists and illustrators section)
03-04-2007, 05:10 AM
Great pics gentlemen !
Im still trying to decipher that postcard..
The beginning is easy :
"Dear Sister, with great joy i have recieved your fond (card or letter) which i would like to thank you for from the bottom of my heart....." The rest is too hard to read http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
03-04-2007, 12:33 PM
Charley's War is now being published in book form. I was a bit too old for Battle Weekly when it first appeared in the late '70s, was it? It's incredibly badly written, but beautifully illustrated:
This volume has Zeppelins in it! 'Kapitan Heinrich Bergmann' is the evil Zep commander:
...obviously based on Fregattenkapitaen Peter Strasser:
We have Luftschiff fun (note the Nieuports):
The Germans are portrayed in a somewhat poor light:
This one takes the proverbial biscuit (though I do rather fancy Bergmann's eldest daughter):
Artist : Joe Colquhoun (who died in 1987).
Some of the pictures were obviously covers to the original comic which, sadly, they haven't reproduced in colour, though that must keep costs down.
Remember...Although you sail in airships, you are still in the Imperial German Navy!
03-04-2007, 12:42 PM
Very nice Schwormstaedt link, VG!
German sailors winning the hearts and minds of the Belgian civilian population http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
03-04-2007, 12:48 PM
Ahhhh what a wonderful piece of classic propaganda. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
The merciless german slaughters the unarmed brits and their woundeds who beg for mercy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
I still miss the reference to the "hun" term ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
03-04-2007, 02:23 PM
I remember 'Charley's War', but I must admit I'd forgotten all about it until now! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
Is this the book you're talking about?
I spotted it on this website: "Charley's War" (http://charleyswar.tripod.com/) (I just knew there'd be a website!)
03-08-2007, 07:27 AM
03-12-2007, 05:53 AM
03-13-2007, 05:49 AM
03-13-2007, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Tater-SW-:
HAHAHA I like that!
03-13-2007, 09:13 PM
That was in the ONI recognition manual that the submariners carried aboard.
I have a few more for little mnemonic devices to remember IJN warships. Many similar cartoons are utilized. I'll have to scan those.
03-14-2007, 03:36 AM
It was published 3rd Sept. 1941 by The Polish Army in Scotland
(just after Atlantic meeting Roosevelt-Churchill)
(- we also agreed water pact !)
03-15-2007, 06:16 AM
no cartoons - but where is better place for WWI stamps ?
03-19-2007, 08:57 AM
03-20-2007, 03:41 AM