Malik?

[lionesss]

I'd definitely like to see an ancestor of Malik in AC2. Doesn't matter if he's in Italy or the present. Malik was a really great character and the end of the game was a real surprise http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif He was my favorite ^^

What are your thoughts on this?

[caswallawn_2k7]

it would be a descendent not an ancestor.

[Charlie_Romeo]

lol @ cas,but yeah i wouldnt bet on seeing a decendant of maliks he werent that gd a character in my opinion also im guessing he was left behind in Mysaf to re build the assassins

[MartaVasques]

He was the only guy who shouted at Altair, so give the man some credit! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[lionesss]

Did I REALLY write ancestor? I apologize, I meant descendant.

[Charlie_Romeo]

he shouted at his superiour, he should be punished in the appropriate mannor/

[MartaVasques]

Altair was not his superior at the time. Besides, losing an arm because of his superior kinda give him the right to shout at him!

Or do you mean in the beginning of the game? Well, let’s just assume Altair had messed things up so many times Malik couldn’t stand him anymore…

[Charlie_Romeo]

yeah i was talking about the begining lol but still he shouldnt of left the place alive athority was there for a reason in these times so i guess if you shout at a supirior you would be punished?

[MartaVasques]

He was, if we want to think of it that way, by losing his arm. The disrespectfulness between the two ended up in a tragedy for both, which is kind of poetic justice, don’t you think?

[Charlie_Romeo]

yeah i just think altair should of finished him, i dont like Malik do i? no no i do not lol, but i get what you are saying. I hope Ezio doesnt get some1 killed like his parents :|

[EmperorxZurg]

Originally posted by MartaVasques:
Altair was not his superior at the time. Besides, losing an arm because of his superior kinda give him the right to shout at him!

Or do you mean in the beginning of the game? Well, let’s just assume Altair had messed things up so many times Malik couldn’t stand him anymore…
Not in the military it doesn't! It doesn't matter WHAT youre commanding officer does, unless it traitorism or clearly breaking the ROE, u follow and do as he says even if he kills your brother and whatnot

[MartaVasques]

Ehhh...What's ROE? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif

[Losk_]

my guess is rules of engagement

[Charlie_Romeo]

Rule of engament. silly things if u ask me but lets not get into politics.

[MartaVasques]

Then, I guess endangering the lives of his brothers like Altair did could be considered as a good reason…

[EmperorxZurg]

ya the ROE are very complex at times, but ya, in this case it was a necessary loss in order to complete the assigned mission, if Malik speaks out, Malik gets acquainted with that hangman's noose REAL quick

[Xanatos2007]

Originally posted by MartaVasques:
He was the only guy who shouted at Altair, so give the man some credit! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Al Mualim yelled at Altair plenty of times.

Speaking of which, do you think Al Mualim will make an appearance or at least be referred to? Like how his voice echoed from the POE at the end of AC1?

[UchihaKarasu]

I like Malik, he is fueled by awesomeness and rage (<-- Credit goes to Kax)

[DeSabellis]

Originally posted by Xanatos2007:
Al Mualim yelled at Altair plenty of times.

Speaking of which, do you think Al Mualim will make an appearance or at least be referred to? Like how his voice echoed from the POE at the end of AC1?

Him and Vidic look a lot alike. I don't think it would be unreasonable to assume that his descendants entered the Brotherhood in the same manner that Altair's entered the Assassins.

[sbredflag]

Well, there's a slight problem.
I don't think Assassins were allowed to children (or at least not master assassins), and by the time we see al mualim in the game, he is OLD. And then he dies.

And Malik is missing an arm. There goes his sex life.

[Xanatos2007]

He's right handed. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

[sbredflag]

"My blade arm is still strong and my men are still my own, it would be a shame not to put us to use" (thanks for the second part PlagueDoctor)- Malik

[PlagueDoctor357]

Yeah, my blade arm is still strong and my men are still my own, it would be a shame not to put use to us or something

[MartaVasques]

Leave sweet poor Malik alone, you guys! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

[LaurenIsSoMosh]

Originally posted by d1sturbedme_468:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MartaVasques:
Altair was not his superior at the time. Besides, losing an arm because of his superior kinda give him the right to shout at him!

Or do you mean in the beginning of the game? Well, let’s just assume Altair had messed things up so many times Malik couldn’t stand him anymore…
Not in the military it doesn't! It doesn't matter WHAT youre commanding officer does, unless it traitorism or clearly breaking the ROE, u follow and do as he says even if he kills your brother and whatnot </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Er, yes, but today's military has nothing to do with nearly a thousand years ago. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Plus, considering Altair killed an innocent and endangered the Brotherhood (and straight out of Al Mualim's mouth, that makes Altair a traitor), he violated the rules of engagement and the creed.

Yell away, Malik! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[sbredflag]

Originally posted by MartaVasques:
Leave sweet poor Malik alone, you guys! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

My point was that he probably never had babies, which implies he doesn't have any descendants. Which answers the question of this thread.
But as a character, I liked him way more than stupid Altair. (braces for attack for calling Altair stupid)

[MartaVasques]

Originally posted by sbredflag:
But as a character, I liked him way more than stupid Altair. (braces for attack for calling Altair stupid)

WHAT?!
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c151/marta_vasques/90.gif

[thekyle0]

I'd tell you to run sbred, but then you'd just die tired.

[MartaVasques]

Originally posted by thekyle0:
I'd tell you to run sbred, but then you'd just die tired.

Got that right! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[Vekter]

<span class="ev_code_GREEN">I really hope there is a character like him, he was brilliant in AC1</span>

[sbredflag]

I apologize, I forgot we aren't all governed under the 1st amendment of the US Constitution http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I only started liking Malik once he said "I know...I know... in fact... THE WHOLE CITY KNOWS!!!"

[thekyle0]

@Vekter: Enjoying the color code?

@sbred: Where you're going you definantley won't be living under the 1st amendment. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

[MartaVasques]

Do you see what's in my signature? I have no 1sr amendment! Meaning that nobody will call Altair stupid in my presence! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

And yes, that is my favourite line by Malik! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[thekyle0]

Really? My favorite line was, "My "blade" arm is still strong"

[MartaVasques]

Oh, I loved the “cry in the corner” one! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

[isblackout]

Originally posted by sbredflag:
Well, there's a slight problem.
I don't think Assassins were allowed to children (or at least not master assassins), and by the time we see al mualim in the game, he is OLD. And then he dies.

And Malik is missing an arm. There goes his sex life. if they arent allowed to have kids they how did ezio come to be if he was after altair and they are both ancestors of desmond

[thekyle0]

I don't think that it wasn't allowed. It was probably just inadvisable. If an assassin is going to go out often and risk their life it doesn't seem wise to be leaving a family behind.

EDIT:

Originally posted by Vekter:
<span class="ev_code_GREEN">I really hope there is a character like him, he was brilliant in AC1</span> Malik's sarcastic tone seems to reflect the character of Shaun Hastings who we know will be a cynic. So your hopes will definantley be satisfied.

[UchihaKarasu]

C'mon guys, several of the Informers claimed they had wives and children.
And I'm pretty sure the Informers were Assassins too considering they often had Altair do their Assassinations for them (those lazy twits) and I think at least one mentioned living in Masyaf.

[LaurenIsSoMosh]

Of course they weren't Assassins. They cried about twisted ankles, hurt backs, and the mild heat every chance they got. And they were all so terrible at getting caught and then having to run away from the guards, which always resulted in you either having to kill the witnesses or clean up all the flags they spilled. Definitely not Assassin material. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Xanatos2007]

Not to mention getting scared of a real Assassin...

"OH GOD DON'T KILL ME! Oh, it's you Altair. You scared me." - Assassination Investigation, William of Monteferrat, Acre

[sbredflag]

Maybe informers were like ex-Assassin's that had been too inferior to be promoted, then grew old, so they were of no use whatsoever. Which explains the constant complaining/cowardice.

[DeSabellis]

Originally posted by sbredflag:
Well, there's a slight problem.
I don't think Assassins were allowed to children (or at least not master assassins), and by the time we see al mualim in the game, he is OLD. And then he dies.


How would they replenish their ranks then?

Aside from that, I really hope Malik (his descendants) graces AC2 in some form or another.

[UchihaKarasu]

Originally posted by Xanatos2007:
Not to mention getting scared of a real Assassin...

"OH GOD DON'T KILL ME! Oh, it's you Altair. You scared me." - Assassination Investigation, William of Monteferrat, Acre

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
They're probably just low-ranking assassin.
Course, then again, we're used to Altair, who is the most badass of all the assassins, so we kind of expect all the others to be the same

[thekyle0]

I demand that they be the same. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

[sbredflag]

1369 posts, kyle, very awesome number


Originally posted by DeSabellis:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sbredflag:
Well, there's a slight problem.
I don't think Assassins were allowed to children (or at least not master assassins), and by the time we see al mualim in the game, he is OLD. And then he dies.


How would they replenish their ranks then?

Aside from that, I really hope Malik (his descendants) graces AC2 in some form or another. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
you think that all Assassins are just sons of previous Assassins? Heh, no.

[Losk_]

they most certainly have children. There is a nearly 1000 year linage of assassins. Most recently, Desmond was born at an assassin enclave in North America.

The informers are probably not assassins, they are likely just spies.

[sbredflag]

And this is Malik
http://www.smackjeeves.com/images/uploaded/comics/7/5/75f0c5914194.jpg
Copyright Kaxen http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif

[KZarr]

Originally posted by sbredflag:
And this is Malik
http://www.smackjeeves.com/images/uploaded/comics/7/5/75f0c5914194.jpg

You forgot to add:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Copyright.svg/200px-Copyright.svg.png Kax

[DeSabellis]

Originally posted by sbredflag:
you think that all Assassins are just sons of previous Assassins? Heh, no.

Of course, the most plausible answer is that they take out advertisements in the local newspapers to recruit new Assassins.

Nothing is ever a 100%, I'm sure maybe a small fraction wonder in to it.

[Kaxen6]

I certainly hope there's someone Malik-ish. @_@

[sackboy411]

Originally posted by Kaxen6:
I certainly hope there's someone Malik-ish. @_@

Ye me too. btw i love your comics http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

[sbredflag]

Originally posted by DeSabellis:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sbredflag:
you think that all Assassins are just sons of previous Assassins? Heh, no.

Of course, the most plausible answer is that they take out advertisements in the local newspapers to recruit new Assassins.

Nothing is ever a 100%, I'm sure maybe a small fraction wonder in to it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well that's like saying tht today all MI6 or CIA agents are children of previous agents. They don't really advertise positions other than desk jobs either http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif