Time for a new Havoc & Weezer Vid! **Factory** [Archive]

Havoconline

06-18-2005, 02:56 AM

We had a lot of crazy competition in this vid, we tried to pull off a lot of tricks n stuff, sometimes it worked sometimes it didn't http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Hope you enjoy.

Factory (http://www.havoc-online.com/Vids/Factory.wmv)
please right click and save as - 42.3mb / 7:52.

And of course there's always our old vids -

Clubhouse (http://www.havoc-online.com/Vids/Clubhouse.wmv),
Museum (http://www.havoc-online.com/Vids/MuseumCT.wmv),
Aqua (http://www.havoc-online.com/Vids/aqua.wmv), Silo (http://www.havoc-online.com/Vids/silo.wmv), Station (http://www.havoc-online.com/Vids/station.wmv)

Pustbunker

06-18-2005, 03:23 AM

Hurraaaaay

timmieboy2

06-18-2005, 03:26 AM

downloading now, probably much fun vid http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif was fun playing with u guys a while ago http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
edit: nice one (like usual http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif), saw you this week (i think) online with durin in same server but it was full http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

FighterTG

06-18-2005, 03:39 AM

Yeah a new Havoc&Weezer Video!I have waited this for long!Plz make one for Warehouse and Rivermall too!

redskirts

06-18-2005, 04:32 AM

submit, bout time this came out, i've been waiting for like a MONTH. I still remember the heavenly game, I just wish you had voice on that when i said "this is gold gold i tell ya!" knowing full well video time was upon me....hehe.

Oh and the merge of the games was excellent, you went from my neck grab in hall a to the coop in main hall, i actually thought it was still the same game. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

S.a.S-Mosar

06-18-2005, 07:20 AM

Can't wait to see this one! I'll edit my comments in this post later.

EDIT: Okay, I watched it now...

and I freaking dropped my jaw!

Phew!

I don't know where to start.

Maybe I should start by saying that I loved every second of it. I'm not sure if its good or bad that I don't have any criticism to give you and I sure sound like a fanboy already. The hell, I sure have a reason for that after what I saw.

Beginning of the video created a good feeling. Just like being there, at the spawn going towards the unknown, but certain that anything could happen. Watching Havoc moving on towards Digger room through the vent, and then the first bomb dropped: message appears that Weezer has broken Remm's neck. What in earth happened there?

When both spies enter the digger room, I can feel that this is where it gets dirty. A rush to coop objective and effective covering grants one objective taken, followed by a sucsessful escape and an ambust for merc.

Another coop objective at Main Hall with a same kind of style. Music starts rocking and mercs get their necks snapped. Then a cool pull of a railing. Oh and weird "use spynet" thingy that left me wondering.

Digger kill. Must have been the most icy trick on the video. I've never seen that happen in a real match. Bloody brilliant. After that comes some smooth neck breaks and box kills. Then it gets silent.

Hard hitting tune from System of a Down kicks in (what a lovely song). Full action baby. Snip, snap, stomp with a style streaming to you win text. Still, not a time for an ending.

Part comes where a Knight Rider riff is played in a song. I get confused and start laughing at the text appearing at my screen. Yet, I haven't discovered the reason for it, but it sure made my day. Finally, movie ending with box kill rolls through credits.

*****

JhonenVasquez

06-18-2005, 09:15 AM

Oh, god. Finally!!! Bet this will be good! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

EDIT: Whoa...awesome...

axle_foley00

06-18-2005, 09:23 AM

Nice Video. I enjoyed it. You guys are really good players.

Spekkio9

06-18-2005, 10:06 AM

I think remmdog made it on this one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Yep, he did lol. That match was so funny...I wish they could've put our comms in the video.

Match starts, 10 sec later Remm gets his neck broken.

Me: Already?!?

Then he respawns, and like 45 sec later he gets his neck broken AGAIN.

Me: Again? What's wrong with you this game?

Then Remm starts making his usual weird shouts like "this is gold!!!"

Ah good times. At least they haven't gotten me yet! (well, they have, just not on tape).

XHarry_TuttleX

06-18-2005, 10:35 AM

Nice vid but the thing I prefer is the music.

$--- System Of A Down ---$

Soooooooo goooooooooooooood http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

S.a.S-Solidus

06-18-2005, 11:19 AM

Pretty good Vid.

SITHDUKE

06-18-2005, 11:44 AM

OWIE! Nice job again X_X I personally think it could of used more garlic but that's just me :/

That box is NASTY! Haven't got me under it yet :P *looks up* errr...*Squish* I must say i actually played Havoc & Weez on Factory and they got my neck like...twice i think :/ They let me off though due to i was warping harder than kirk that day http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif GG , GJ and Nice work Harv & Squeezy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Jackal56o

06-18-2005, 12:16 PM

You guys are my heros. I only wish one day I could be as quick and witty as you two are as spys.

BTW: Have you guys ever tried being mercs?

Total.Ck_

06-18-2005, 12:21 PM

Very nice. Nicest video so far. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Amn-23

06-18-2005, 01:15 PM

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

weezer0w0

06-18-2005, 01:52 PM

Thanks for all the kind words fellas, we're glad everyone's enjoying it. Havoc really put a lot of time and effort into make this vid especially cool, it was a long time in the making. We had to spend practically a whole day just to get that crane kill in there. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Glad to see enough of the SC community is still in tact after the BF2 demo. Anyone who is still around and wants to catch some ggs with us can always xfire us at weezer0w0 and havoc_online. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
-g

r3be1

06-18-2005, 04:31 PM

omg! i'm in the movie!!!! I'm the last to get killed!

haha i love you guys, in a friendly way, nothing wierd.

eheh

ILegionReborn

06-18-2005, 07:28 PM

Curse those sticky fingers. I saw them too, just wasn't expecting a ledge pull from there. Too itchy for the kill, or something. I will endeavour to be more cautious in the future.

Gangxta123

06-18-2005, 09:16 PM

Very nice Video Havoc/Weezer! I like the Crane/Box Kills very funny. Lol I saw the Charge at you at the top near the ledge i was wondering why he didnt kill u then i see him getting pulled down by Weezer lol. Good Video Guys Good Job.

DucusSumus

06-19-2005, 12:34 AM

Great vid, as usual.

The first song that was played -- what's it called?

slapnuts96

06-19-2005, 07:48 AM

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif lol lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif Great vid guys. Maybe I'll end up in a vid to lol. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Cheet4hC.A.T.

06-19-2005, 08:24 AM

hey! remember when me (WhiTeCaStlE_FF) and P4nther(SuBwAy_FF) were playing u guysand we played factory but we didnt appear in ur movie... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.......i guess thats a good thing..... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Spartan_M.A.D.

06-19-2005, 02:08 PM

McDonalds_FF appeared tho http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif for a split second :P

Chairmaker-US

06-19-2005, 09:17 PM

Wow! People complaining about not being in the vids! Who knew!

Gentleman... as always, GJ.

Havoconline

06-20-2005, 04:27 PM

hehe, like Weezer said, thanks everyone for all the nice words and motivation for more vids http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Rem/Spek - with you both, always vggs. Thanks for the fun times http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif we need to record Remm's voice for future use :P

Ducus - that first song is from the blade 3 soudntrack, overseer - skylight

Cheetah - 2 things, I usually end up tossing footage where you can tell mercs are obviously laggin, and another thing is when I record, I go from 40fps down to 23-24, so if it gets too laggy for me, I have to stop recording to have a fighting chance. It bites cause @40fps some of our best "footage" will never be seen http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

keep the comments coming guys http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I was kinda thinking everyone would hate this vid for some reason, heh.

dmb1435

06-20-2005, 04:44 PM

Wow! People complaining about not being in the vids! Who knew!

hahahaha, I almost said something (though now I am) about not being in the vids, but James and I haven't started playing them til recently. Even now, we're not finding the time to play as muchhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif We'll get together soon, I can feel it.

YOU CAN'T GARGLE SAND http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

-DrKen

Preacher-US

06-20-2005, 10:17 PM

wow
the sand joke.
very nice.

Chairmaker-US

06-20-2005, 10:43 PM

I beg to differ, you can gargle sand! I've seen it done. Really, quite a funny stroy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif

Valserp

06-21-2005, 08:12 AM

Very nice. Was definately worth the download. I loved the digger kill. But why was most of the fightin' in the Digger room? Weren't there any fun shots in the Mechanical room among your archives?

P.S. What exactly was the thing for mosar? I just saw a few clips. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

dX.Gurgaue

06-21-2005, 08:13 AM

Really nice vid ,maybe the best of your vids... waiting for next one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

weezer0w0

06-21-2005, 08:21 AM

Most of the fighting was in the digger room simply because thats where we tend to spend most of our time. Digger is very spy friendly, its dark, lots of stuff to hide in/jump on, and mercs are fairly restricted as far as enterances go. Once you have the crane you've got four objectives in one room on a map that you only need 3 objectives to win. As long as you're confident in your partner two spies should be able make the match last in the digger room. Unless both mercs show up, of course.

We didn't have any machine room shots mainly because we don't spend a lot of time in there. It is usually an in/out operation for an objective. Simply put the ability of the merc to blow the room up destroys any aggro potential that area of the map has. And once it has been blown it you're so confined and restricted that it still doesn't make for the best aggro.

Finally the last bit that was directed at Mosar may be a little confusing. We just wanted to include a few shots of the mercs saying stuff like "no way" or "BS!" for comedy's sake. In the past Mosar always got a kick out of that aspect of our videos.

-g

Spiritmonger4

06-21-2005, 12:17 PM

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif it was so funny it made me cry http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Im gonna check some other movies these days http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

acdx

06-21-2005, 03:38 PM

Great video, as always. I especially enjoyed the part where havoc is up at the main hall coop objective while weezer tries to hold the mercs back with 30 smokes or so http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif The perspective is just great.

Are you planning on releasing more videos? I'd love to see Orphanage..

weezer0w0

06-21-2005, 03:46 PM

Definately more videos in the works. We're a little short on footage but we're tossing around a couple ideas on how the keep the videos fresh and interesting instead of "just the same ol' aggro spy footage."

You can be sure to count on an Orphanage vid mainly because it's the last of the original CT maps that we've not covered yet. Other than that theres always River Mall, Offshore Oilrig, and *gasp* Deftech or even Bank (if we could even get games going on those maps.) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Keep an eye out for more scct gameplay vids.
-g

S.a.S-Mosar

06-21-2005, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by weezer0w0:
we're tossing around a couple ideas on how the keep the videos fresh and interesting instead of "just the same ol' aggro spy footage."

That's always a challenging but at the same time rewarding task. Good to hear the news.

ImportedSpy.CF

06-21-2005, 08:02 PM

Sick video guys.. nice music aswell.. lol you guys sure like to box ppl http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

psyichic

06-22-2005, 04:41 PM

If I ever get cuahg tin a game with those two the second I see a spy im going to run into a corner and nade every little dark corner! LOL! Very nice video. Im still trying to figure out how you guys do it. DO you try and drive mercs crazy so they dont check their sound detectors or what? LOL very nice anyways.

Spekkio9

06-22-2005, 04:43 PM

They are just very coordinated. They know what each other are going to do, and they practice the tactic often. Sometimes it works; sometimes it doesn't, just like any other tactic in the game.

Raakile91

06-23-2005, 10:59 AM

Well, guys, I feel really sorry for ruining the mood around here but I think those videos should include more stealth and leave that aggro away. Weezer himself said they had problems keeping the vids fresh and funny so just change your tactic. Aggro away, stealth into use and scary music during the vid and that's all what you need IMO.

(possible gadgets: smoke, camo, cam, spy bullet)

weezer0w0

06-23-2005, 01:42 PM

...himself said they had problems keeping the vids fresh and funny so just change your tactic..

I was referring more to the presentation than the gameplay, but thanks for your input. I believe kingsadist made a brief factory stealth video that showed a route from spawn to machine without being detected making only minimal noise at best.

To keep the pacing of our videos consistent with eachother (and within each one individually) we tend to cut out a lot of what some might consider "stealth". Anyone can hide in a vent, and truth be told, it doesn't make for the best footage. Now, if you're playing the game and hiding in a dark corner and a merc is looking for you - that makes for some exciting gameplay. Though if there is no confrontation then how does a viewer watching a video even know that you're even playing against another player.

Simply put Havoc and I feel that a pure stealth video (of our gameplay footage) would be not as interesting as the videos that we have posted. The game is as much about trickery, confusion, tactics, speed, and manuverability as it is about stealth. Really what does stealth mean in the context that you're asking for anyway?

A quick run to dictionary.com says:
stealth - Not disclosing one's true ideology, affiliations, or positions. The quality or characteristic of being furtive or covert.
furtive - Expressive of hidden motives or purposes.

The aggro style of playing a Spy in SCCT SvM would seem to fall in line with those defintions rather easily. While many of the best moments in our various vids are full on aggressive play, there are definately plenty of clips that show off "stealth" manuvers. The best one that comes to mind is a clip in the Station video where Havoc is protecting an objective from being hacked by using smoke and chaff and then hides behind a wall for the duration of the smoke effect. The merc, thinking that he is being attacked, starts spinning, shooting, and berserking all while ignoring the fact that I was hacking an objective.

Our videos are not meant to be (too) similar to the ubi preview videos and trailers they release prior to the game. But even in those they show off Sam Fisher actually attacking npc's rather than just sneaking his way around a vent.
-g

timmieboy2

06-24-2005, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by weezer0w0:
I was referring more to the presentation than the gameplay
mayby you can both record it and show it as split screen in the video's

Raakile91

06-24-2005, 02:16 AM

Don't get me wrong people, I love havoc's and weezer's vids (I have seen them all) but I just wanted to give some ideas for future releases... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

NeVerDown144

06-24-2005, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by timmieboy2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by weezer0w0:
I was referring more to the presentation than the gameplay
mayby you can both record it and show it as split screen in the video's </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
i think when they do that weezer get too laggy to do agro. in movies havoc is just filming and not that much agro. thats because of his fps when filming. when split screen weezer gets the fps drop too

Havoconline

06-24-2005, 03:20 PM

amen brother down...

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Chairmaker-US

06-24-2005, 04:03 PM

I still like Merc and Spy view of the exact in game footage!

AppleJacks-Ck

06-24-2005, 09:55 PM

nice nice. lol finally dl'ed it hav haha. i been busy lately no time for games.

o you got me twice lol

best vid yet

Raakile91

06-25-2005, 12:22 AM

Why don't you make a vid when you play against some merc pro's like SingleshotC.A.T. and others. Or is the challenge too big? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif Nah, just kidding, I just want to see if there is someone with almost ecual skills... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Chairmaker-US

06-25-2005, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by Raakile91:
Why don't you make a vid when you play against some merc pro's like SingleshotC.A.T. and others. Or is the challenge too big? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif Nah, just kidding, I just want to see if there is someone with almost ecual skills... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Wow. Are you saying that players like Spekkio, Remmdog and Applejacks.CK don't have skills? Those three all made the video. Sounds to me like an insult to those who are in the video.

It always makes me laugh when some noob claims, no one with any ability makes the vids.

I am in the Station vid! I take exception to what you have said.

This argument is old and has been posted to adnauseum. It began way back in PT when Havoc came out with his first Vid. So I will pontificate no longer.

Spekkio9

06-25-2005, 02:09 AM

Stop being a pedantic.

MR.Mic

06-25-2005, 02:42 AM

Originally posted by Raakile91:
Why don't you make a vid when you play against some merc pro's like SingleshotC.A.T. and others. Or is the challenge too big? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif Nah, just kidding, I just want to see if there is someone with almost ecual skills... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I dont consider myself a better merc than anyone else, I am on an equal plane with all my other peers. I just have an unorthodox style of play. It's no better or worse than other methods. I also find it in poor taste to rate your own skill level (preaching your godliness). That conclusion should be decided by your peers.

SITHDUKE

06-26-2005, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by MR.Mic:
I dont consider myself a better merc than anyone else, I am on an equal plane with all my other peers. I just have an unorthodox style of play. It's no better or worse than other methods. I also find it in poor taste to rate your own skill level (preaching your godliness). That conclusion should be decided by your peers.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Amen

Havoconline

06-26-2005, 04:37 PM

Raakile91 - Seems like you watch more vids than you play http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif, over half the vid was against "pro" mercs....

Spek - I take it you're not a happy drunk?http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif Don't think he deserved that.

Mic - do you think we are trying to 'preach' our godliness?

MR.Mic

06-26-2005, 07:11 PM

Havoc, you read my post wrong. If you would scroll up a few posts, you would see that it was directed at raakile. And i was just making a general statement, as I know you dont go around saying "OMG, I am Teh ROXORz U n00bie LAm0r"

ranger123321

06-26-2005, 11:01 PM

I noticed in your videos that you changed your motion to walk right before a couple of grabs. I didn't know if it was a bug or if you gain an advantage.

Raakile91

06-27-2005, 04:29 AM

I want to say I'm sorry for those that I have insulted. Those vids just make merc's look so bad. What I'm trying to say is that I'd like to see few tricks from mercs also. And many of you are right, I'm far below average player in SCCT. Again, sorry for everybody that took my comment personally. I understand that skills can't be accurately compared by only judging videos. You need to play against those guys a lot before you know. After this, I won't be judging other players' skills. Thanks for opening my eyes. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DrCactus

06-27-2005, 08:44 AM

Hey, Remember when I was the first known player to be filmed and get my *** whooped by Havoc and Weezer. Ahh... good times.
As for fresh entertainment, I don't know. This stuff always amuses me and I enjoy watching and even taking part in their videos. However a change in pace would be cool. Some times, when I don't know what to do, which turns out to be quite often, I say forget the objectives and just try and get as close to a merc as possible. WITHOUT them knowing, or snaping their neck. Nothing like having mercs run into you and stop, then just proceed to walk around you. Ah... now that takes nerves of steel. Its also another reason i die a lot.

Daybreak