who to contact with your issues

[whasssaaahhh]

<span class="ev_code_RED">Seeing as how this information is public, advertising it on the forums is unnecessary.</span>

[EscoBlades]

Please engage your brain before posting next time. Not only are none of these actual tech people to deal with game oissues, but also putting up personal details on the forum is STRICTLY prohibited!!

[GTFOOMG]

"Please engage your brain before posting next time". Kind of hard to do, i know i just see a cloud of anger whenever i even see this game now days. how do u think clearly about such a pathetic s h i t pile.

And even if we did email them what would they do. Probably just sit there and laugh at the message, and say "haha buddy we Already got your money".

i think it's pritty clear now that Ubi never intended to "support" this game any way, shape, or form. Just build up some hype and pocket all our cash.

[MA1Casper]

EscoBlades as a consumer that has paid good money for a product at least in the U.S. there still are consumer laws. What are you protecting these are people that are in business and thus suppose to put out a product that works. It's obvious there are a lot of short falls with this game. If you want to keep protecting the man behind the curtain go ahead because eventually people wake up and stop buying the product. You go ahead and be a good little soldier I'm sure you will get a pat on the back. It's folks like you that encourage these companies to continue to make products that don't measure up. If you had found a worm in your fish and chips I'm sure you would just chalk it up to the fish monger having a bad day and eat it in silence.

[Master_Cylinder]

A bug in a game is not the same as a worm in your food. Let's not exaggerate...

[MA1Casper]

Excuse me but it's called quality control in either situation. If I had said 10,000 worms that would have been exaggeration. Which leads to another question I just read the terms of use please tell me where it says you can't post email addresses for UBI execs?

[Master_Cylinder]

Originally posted by MA1Casper:
Excuse me but it's called quality control in either situation. If I had said 10,000 worms that would have been exaggeration. Which leads to another question I just read the terms of use please tell me where it says you can't post email addresses for UBI execs?

Name one game that never had any bugs and the exaggeration is the comparison. As if they're comparable...

[MA1Casper]

There is the issue UBI has a track record of putting out games that have issues then never fallowing through with fixing them leaving the consumer with a half baked game. I can name several games that have had issues but the developers fixed the issues and didn't put the blame on the consumer. As for the comparison sir regardless if you are in business to sell food, clothing, cars, or software there is such a thing as quality control. Of course I guess you can exempt software developers from such standards and I'm sure they would stand and applaud your rationale.

[Master_Cylinder]

Food is a different thing completely because it's ingested. Software bugs are not the same as contaminated food no matter how much you want to whine...

[MA1Casper]

Tell that to the folks that have suffered from ecoli in contaminated food. That quality control doesn't matter. Further, I'm not whining merely discussing the issue at hand if you like buying games that are substandard by all means be the first in line to pay the man your $50.00. Don't let me get in the way.

[MA1Casper]

Tell that to the folks that have suffered from ecoli in contaminated food. That quality control doesn't matter. Further, I'm not whining merely discussing the issue at hand if you like buying games that are substandard by all means be the first in line to pay the man your $50.00. Don't let me get in the way.

[MA1Casper]

Tell that to the folks that have suffered from ecoli in contaminated food. That quality control doesn't matter. Further, I'm not whining merely discussing the issue at hand if you like buying games that are substandard by all means be the first in line to pay the man your $50.00. Don't let me get in the way.

[MA1Casper]

Tell that to the folks that have suffered from ecoli in contaminated food. That quality control doesn't matter. Further, I'm not whining merely discussing the issue at hand if you like buying games that are substandard by all means be the first in line to pay the man your $50.00. Don't let me get in the way.

[Master_Cylinder]

Originally posted by MA1Casper:
Tell that to the folks that have suffered from ecoli in contaminated food. That quality control doesn't matter. Further, I'm not whining merely discussing the issue at hand if you like buying games that are substandard by all means be the first in line to pay the man your $50.00. Don't let me get in the way.

Again, software bugs are not the same thing. Nobody ever got sick or died due to game bugs (just annoyed), they're not comparable.

While I've only played a handful of ubisoft games (starting with Myst, Riven, Farcry (1 and 2) and now HAWX, I'm happy enough that I'm not going to whine over a few bugs.

Additionally, there's already been one patch for THIS game and there's another coming so let's not act like they've done nothing either.

Exaggeration doesn't help...

[MA1Casper]

So what your saying is quality control is not important to you in software? You are missing the point or maybe you just don't care and you have got lots of money if the later is the case good for you. Because I personally don't like spending money on things that are not up to par. You are just the person UBI loves to see throwing down the dollars. What's that saying? You keep eating them will make more. In your case UBI is saying you keep buying them will make more of the same. P.S. GRAW2, Vegas2, 2 patches then UBI pulled the plug. The Last good game UBI made was the original Ghost Recon. If you are playing Farcry 2 it must be the single player. Because if you aren't UBI must be just salivating when they send you notification of a new game. As for exaggeration I guess if you want to set a lower standard for some of the things you buy so be it we shall agree to disagree. But for me quality control is not an exaggeration be it food, clothes, autos, or software. Just a side note software is big in the health industry, and financial industry industry but as you said nobody got sick or died because of software oops games. But I'm sure you put other software into that same category.

[Master_Cylinder]

No, that's what you said. *I* said that you cant compare contaminated food to bugs in a game (exaggeration) and just because there are bugs in a game doesn't mean there was no quality control. I'm sure there were many bugs fixed before it was released and if you expect a perfect, bug-free game then exaggeration isn't the only issue, so is being unrealistic.

I'm not claiming that the game is bug free, I'm saying that a number of people here are making a mountain out of a molehill.

[EscoBlades]

Thank you Master_Cylinder http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

To the others in this thread, my initial point still stands. Plastering the email addresses of Ubisoft execs (this is public knowledge already anyway) on an internet forum is prohibited, especially on this particular forum. Furthermore, i highly doubt that the President of Ubisoft is in any position to get the changes you want to this game pushed through in the short term or immediate future.

There are devs, ComDevs, Forum Managers and even Forum Moderators better placed to direct your complaints to. Try using them.

Oh and i'm not defending Ubi in anyway. But at least i'm using some common sense; whining about the same problems day in, day out isn't going to make the updates and patches that are already being worked on come any quicker. If you feel you can do a better job, then by all means get to work straight away. Otherwise have a little patience, these things take time. Either that, or return your game and trade it in for something else......your choice!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

[LT.INSTG8R]

Originally posted by MA1Casper:
So what your saying is quality control is not important to you in software? You are missing the point or maybe you just don't care and you have got lots of money if the later is the case good for you. Because I personally don't like spending money on things that are not up to par. You are just the person UBI loves to see throwing down the dollars. What's that saying? You keep eating them will make more. In your case UBI is saying you keep buying them will make more of the same. P.S. GRAW2, Vegas2, 2 patches then UBI pulled the plug. The Last good game UBI made was the original Ghost Recon. If you are playing Farcry 2 it must be the single player. Because if you aren't UBI must be just salivating when they send you notification of a new game. As for exaggeration I guess if you want to set a lower standard for some of the things you buy so be it we shall agree to disagree. But for me quality control is not an exaggeration be it food, clothes, autos, or software. Just a side note software is big in the health industry, and financial industry industry but as you said nobody got sick or died because of software oops games. But I'm sure you put other software into that same category.

QFT! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

I have been around since OGR and have still not learned my lesson and stopped supporting this downward slide.

I mean I don't know if you are all aware but Ubi now owns the Tom Clancy name and well if they wanted too they could make "Tom Clancy's Golf"

[Master_Cylinder]

Originally posted by LT.INSTG8R:
I have been around since OGR and have still not learned my lesson and stopped supporting this downward slide.

I mean I don't know if you are all aware but Ubi now owns the Tom Clancy name and well if they wanted too they could make "Tom Clancy's Golf"
Like I said, mountain out of a molehill.

What if they did make TC Golf? Would somebody put a putter to your head and make you buy it like they made you buy every other bug-free game that you own? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[MA1Casper]

EscoBlades where are you getting this information please please show me. If it's public information then you are not making any sence. As for your mountain out a mole hill comment MC. Yup sure is when you try to connect to online play and you get you have "timed out", "no games found",or an error that shuts the game down completely. Just minor stuff right? Just buy the game and wait 2 months to play no big deal eventually it will all get worked out. As for the same thing day in day out what do you expect folks to do? I know when the game comes out everybody just wait 6 months then buy the game. The developers get paid good money to put together a good product that people pay for. They are expected to know what they are doing if I put out products like this in my job I would be shown the door. BTW you can't trade or sell PC games at least where I live because of copy write and licensing agreements. Here is a novel idea make the time line for roll out more realistic. After the developers think they have a finished product run test for 6 months rather than rushing to to the store. Oh, but that might cost us money. There is the real reason quality control is lacking>>> money. Putting out a quality product is secondary and so are the consumers to real goal which is the corporate bottom line. Again you are the perfect consumers UBI is looking for they know as long as there are folks out there like MC and Escoblade they can keep putting out the same quality of product and you will just keep putting your money down. P.T. Barnum was right!

[EscoBlades]

Originally posted by MA1Casper:
EscoBlades where are you getting this information please please show me. If it's public information then you are not making any sence.

Kindly look at the original post now and tell me what you see......

[Master_Cylinder]

Originally posted by MA1Casper:
As for your mountain out a mole hill comment MC. Yup sure is...

Again you are the perfect consumers UBI is looking for...

P.T. Barnum was right!
I'm glad you agree. Now, do you want some cheese with that whine? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Clearly not everyone is having the same problems you are but since you're the center of your universe I can see why you'd be confused.

Yes the whole 5 games I've bought and enjoyed for many hours makes me the perfect customer or, maybe, it's just because I'm not a drama queen who is prone to exaggeration and that I'm actually grounded in reality.

Good luck with TC Golf...

[MA1Casper]

Grow up MC it appears to me that you must be all of 15 years old which means mom and dad probably bought the games for you. If you think that I am the only one that is having problems not only are you in state of denial but you need glasses. Clearly there more people out there that are having problems. If you want to drink the Kool Aid go right ahead and if you call people that express their opinion on a subject whiners I guess you will get really far in life. I got a clue for you if all you have is to call someone a drama queen or whiner because they don't agree with your opinion then who is really living in their own universe? Good luck in the real world.

[Master_Cylinder]

Originally posted by MA1Casper:
Grow up MC it appears to me that you must be all of 15 years old which means mom and dad probably bought the games for you. If you think that I am the only one that is having problems not only are you in state of denial but you need glasses. Clearly there more people out there that are having problems. If you want to drink the Kool Aid go right ahead and if you call people that express their opinion on a subject whiners I guess you will get really far in life. I got a clue for you if all you have is to call someone a drama queen or whiner because they don't agree with your opinion then who is really living in their own universe? Good luck in the real world.
How typical. Looks like the truth hurts you, doesn't it? Clearly, you're closer to my grandkids' ages than mine. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The sky is not falling...

[MA1Casper]

What that you want to call someone a whiner and a drama queen? If that's all you have to bring to this I can only imagine what you are like when dealing with differing opinions face to face. As for the comment about my age clearly you have no clue. I don't believe anyone said the sky is falling but then again those are your words not mine.

[Master_Cylinder]

Originally posted by MA1Casper:
What that you want to call someone a whiner and a drama queen?

"P.T. Barnum was right!"
Why is OK for you to call other people a "sucker" just because we don't agree with you? Do you always speak out of both sides of your face or is that just more of your overly dramatic exaggeration? You know what they say; if the tiara fits...


Originally posted by MA1Casper:
As for the comment about my age clearly you have no clue..
Pot/kettle/black... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Thanks for proving me right about you and, yet again, the sky is not falling.

[MA1Casper]

Originally posted by Master_Cylinder:
Food is a different thing completely because it's ingested. Software bugs are not the same as contaminated food no matter how much you want to whine...
Seems to me you better check the posts. Thanks for proving that all you have is to call someone a whiner and a drama queen when they don't agree with your opinion. And with that this discussion is finished.

[Master_Cylinder]

Originally posted by MA1Casper:
Again you are the perfect consumers UBI is looking for they know as long as there are folks out there like MC and Escoblade they can keep putting out the same quality of product and you will just keep putting your money down. P.T. Barnum was right!

Originally posted by MA1Casper:
Grow up MC it appears to me that you must be all of 15 years old which means mom and dad probably bought the games for you.


Originally posted by MA1Casper:
Seems to me you better check the posts.

Seems to me that you should have taken your own advice. Cut and run, typical.

Hypocrisy knows no bounds...

[EscoBlades]

Originally posted by EscoBlades:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MA1Casper:
EscoBlades where are you getting this information please please show me. If it's public information then you are not making any sence.

Kindly look at the original post now and tell me what you see...... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I never got your reply..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

[yummyfrootloops]

I have the PS3 version, and I LOVE it...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif takes forever to level up, but the game is fantastic!!! Bring on my download content ASAP!!!http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[IamKFAM]

Hopefully some of that download content will be bug fixes... just sayin... game is pretty awefully buggy on the PS3. not the worst on record, but among them for sure....