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Thebullwillwn2
06-30-2011, 04:11 PM
Hello boys and girls. This is TheBullWillWin!!! I've been known to have a potty mouth but I will b a good boy and not get in trouble again.

I was talking with Hades inferno one night about scores!! I was arguing with him about getting scores for the templar scores this week. He said he was sick and tired of beating up on noobs. He was sick of getting 12k or 13k scores against people, who honestly, think walking slowly won't make me see you!!!!!

I said well I like showing that I can utterly dominate noobs. And even though I think I play very well against top competition I like the feeling inside I get, from being in the top 10 of manhunt. He says that Templar scores don't mean crap cuz all it is people "baiting" or "boosting" to get high scores against noobs. I reply with yes but it feels good.

So he asks me doesn't it feel better to double streak up against noobs or top notch competition? I of course say top notch! So.............................

My question is this........ What do you think you rank on a list of top players out there today????!! I would prefer xbox people respond but ps3 can comment too.

Honestly I think I'm in the top 10. I play a lot of clan matches and tournaments and usual am the highest scoring or 1st on my team due to the awesome team work of my team!!!!!

CrazyShrapnel
06-30-2011, 04:28 PM
You get banned on your original account or something?

Anyway. Generally high scores (In team modes atleast) result from two types of opponent. They are either: too stupid to get away, or too aggressive to stay away. There are targets who will fastwalk straight into you without noticing you're there, who you can get focus hidden poisons on as they stand clueless in a blend. Then there are the targets who will throw themselves at you in an attempt to get stuns. If you can avoid their stunlock attempts, you can get plenty of kills.

Personally I'd rather land a nice kill on someone who had a plan to use against me, rather than a newbie who barely has the hang of the controls.

I don't think I'm all that good tbh. New players have no chance against me but that's the same with just about everyone who posts here. I can win against decent opponents, just not impressively. They tend not to fastwalk straight to their deaths.

MonsterJunkese
06-30-2011, 04:29 PM
I usted to be good but now im terrible since i quit for a few month.

Archosakun
06-30-2011, 04:33 PM
I too suck now.
I took a long break from the game, being generally all right but now I can't even get 1st regularly :|
Either the community are getting better or I suck.
Latter.

persiateddy95
06-30-2011, 04:34 PM
I've already scored +10k in FFA against the Top 5 people.

EscoBlades
06-30-2011, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by CrazyShrapnel:

I don't think I'm all that good tbh. New players have no chance against me but that's the same with just about everyone who posts here. I can win against decent opponents, just not impressively. They tend not to fastwalk straight to their deaths.

Quoted as this almost certainly applies to me as well. Not that it really bothers me either way. I enjoy playing the game.

thergbcolor
06-30-2011, 04:44 PM
For what it's worth, I agree with Hades Inferno. Beating up noobs week in and week out has become boring. I still have fun, but it's a different - and I would argue lesser - kind of fun. Taking on opponents of equal skill and being challenged for your victory is more fun. I've put up decent scores against organized teams, but nothing that would land me in the top ten.

Of course, the game is always the most fun when you play it with friends. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Archosakun
06-30-2011, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by thergbcolor:
For what it's worth, I agree with Hades Inferno. Beating up noobs week in and week out has become boring. I still have fun, but it's a different - and I would argue lesser - kind of fun. Taking on opponents of equal skill and being challenged for your victory is more fun. I've put up decent scores against organized teams, but nothing that would land me in the top ten.

Of course, the game is always the most fun when you play it with friends. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

This.
I get bored easily if I'm not playing with a friend tbh.

machinista
06-30-2011, 05:14 PM
Yeah, I'm not a very good player at all. I land in the top 3 of most matches and I do get 1st place regularly, but I'm far from being a great player, and it really shows when I go up against better, more experienced gamers. If I'm in a lobby with more than one or two really good players, it's not rare for me to get embarrassingly low scores. So, yeah.

xCr0wnedNorris
06-30-2011, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by Thebullwillwn2:
Hello boys and girls. This is TheBullWillWin!!! I've been known to have a potty mouth but I will b a good boy and not get in trouble again.
Uh... You do realize that creating another account to avoid suspension or bans will just result in the secondary account getting banned as well, right? It could even lead to an IP Address ban.

Archosakun
06-30-2011, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by xCr0wnedNorris:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Thebullwillwn2:
Hello boys and girls. This is TheBullWillWin!!! I've been known to have a potty mouth but I will b a good boy and not get in trouble again.
Uh... You do realize that creating another account to avoid suspension or bans will just result in the secondary account getting banned as well, right? It could even lead to an IP Address ban. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Where did you even quote that from? It's gone o.o

utriej
06-30-2011, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by persiateddy95:
I've already scored +10k in FFA against the Top 5 people.

This is what I think when I'm in those stacked matches. I get in lobbies very regularly these days where there are 4-6 or more names from the top 20 all in the same lobby. In my mind if you can consistently do well in those lobbies, that shows you have skill. But, with that being said, even those matches depend a lot on luck same as any other.
I play plenty of matches with top notch players and hit 10k+, whereas othertimes I play like crap and cant do anything right.

I had a match at lunch today where I scored like 4k!! Terribad, noobish. Kept doing poorly in the next 2 matches as well. But the other night, I was in a full lobby of very good players, and was hitting 8-10k every match.

xCr0wnedNorris
06-30-2011, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by Archosakun:

Where did you even quote that from? It's gone o.o
Really? It's still there for me. First sentence of the post.

DigDug510
06-30-2011, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by Thebullwillwn2:
Honestly I think I'm in the top 10. I play a lot of clan matches and tournaments and usual am the highest scoring or 1st on my team due to the awesome team work of my team!!!!!

I'm seriously not trying to start anything, but just had a thought regarding some matches recently.

The matches I've had against you and a team are spent running or hiding on top of unreachable spots which means your team usually has less than 2000 points at the end of a defensive round. The matches usually end in the 10-15k range for the winner.

I don't know if you save this tactic for certain people or only do it against teams that you know and are trying to mess with, but its hard to put up great scores without playing "traditional" stun-defense. I might be wrong on that, but its been my experience.

Again, I'm not trying to start any kind of flame war, but am just wondering where the top 10 scores come from with that approach on defense. It is a valid approach, don't get me wrong, just not as high scoring as other approaches.

And to answer the original question, I would much rather put up 5-6k against a great team or a lobby full of great FFA players than put up 10-11k on a bunch of smurfs and fortune cookies.

MonsterJunkese
06-30-2011, 06:50 PM
Oh yeah, THE BULL WILL NOT WIN! The forum manager does.

PryingTuna85649
06-30-2011, 11:37 PM
I would much rather play with someone on my level. But that means ON my level, not too far above or below. Playing with people above is definitely good, but if that's all you do, it's can be really hard to learn and improve. Not to mention it's discouraging. I've enjoyed randomly ending up in ranked Assassinate matches with some top 10 players a few days in a row (would've been able to play again tonight if the stupid system didn't kick me out), but it's also been really hard for me to practice the stuff I've wanted because of being paranoid about leaving blend groups and instantly dying. I've definitely learned by being in those matches, but playing on your level also has its benefits.

Thebullwillwn2
07-01-2011, 12:18 AM
To digdug. Honestly ur not starting anything. But what u saw when it was me and Nax isn't what we do. We play legit and kick it up a few notches cuz well it was really 2-4 against u, bigtshades,reign and angus. He screwed around and ran. I've played a lot of competitive matches. Since December I've been in tournaments all the time. Clan battles is what I do and where I excel. That one match wasn't really serious. U should watch me play more clan matches than.

obliviondoll
07-01-2011, 12:29 AM
Against people who camp the tops of lifts and crosses and other such "unreachable" places, Knives are your friend.

I ALWAYS bring Knives in Manhunt, and teams doing that sort of thing are half the reason why. The other half is Aerial Focus.

weeklydose
07-01-2011, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by machinista:
Yeah, I'm not a very good player at all. I land in the top 3 of most matches and I do get 1st place regularly, but I'm far from being a great player, and it really shows when I go up against better, more experienced gamers. If I'm in a lobby with more than one or two really good players, it's not rare for me to get embarrassingly low scores. So, yeah.
Same here. Two or three players from the top 50 in the room and I get destroyed in Wanted, just because they play the game at a much higher pace then I tend to do.

Also, these days, I usually get destroyed in any Manhunt match I play, because for some reason I find myself having to go up against a pre-formed team of four Grand Masters who are on their mics... while I usually end up with only one or two teammates with a smurf rank. It's been ages since I've finished a match 4-on-4.

WoollyAndy
07-01-2011, 01:32 AM
I've had 12k+ scores with two of the top players and a room full of pro's in assassinate sessions numerous times, so I feel I'm ok with that. There was a time I sucked at Assassinate, but hanging there with the top competition made me push myself and I gradually improved over time.

I must be at the bottom of the ladder when it comes to pro-team and co-op matches. Although most of the Pro-competition I come across show off their free-running skills, and me being quite one-dimensional when hunting (stealthy), its why I usually prefer beating down on noobs.

Apart from that, I do remember joining a room full of pros (Hades, Gynn and co.), and I was on a team with all randoms on the offense round, I couldnt really do a thing since there was mute and smoke every 10 seconds. Thats when I figured where I fare against pro's alone (and what the noobs endured).

Citizen War
07-01-2011, 03:52 AM
Who is the best on XBox360?

You probably mean on Manhunt too, right? Honestly I don't know who the best is on Wanted.

You also mean right now, not in the past.

I think that pretty much everyone involved in my 3v3 tourney on FraggedNations is among the best. I think that's why they had the guts to participate at all. I could be a jerk and mention certain people being better than others, in my opinion... but alas no, I won't. Plus I'm not omnipotent and I haven't seen every game ever played between the tough gals and guys of AC:B, sometimes across clan boundaries!

There are also some brave and humble souls who are quite good but refuse to join clans etc., like Disco Sith and Ripe Claw. There are also people from other countries that we don't know well who end up in matchmaking with us. Sometimes hard to judge skill with latency but there are definitely good players from Europe and Asia.

If you want a top ten list, ask me personally when I'm drunk and I'll tell you. I don't want to offend people here by excluding them. Still, put some "good players" on a team that has no chemistry with them, and they might as well be a rampaging smurf.

thergbcolor
07-01-2011, 05:44 AM
Originally posted by CitizenWar:
Still, put some "good players" on a team that has no chemistry with them, and they might as well be a rampaging smurf.

Well said.

H4D3S_1NF3RN0
07-01-2011, 10:59 AM
Since I can only speak for myself, I'd say I'm in the top 15-20, when it comes to facing top notch opponets. Almost anybody that knows me knows I will play anyatch, no matter who or how many of them are in there, by myself with nothing but randoms and still score anywhere from 6-10 k almost everytime. From single streaks to even a tripple streak (on a group with some top notch hkp members, who were stun training my noobs), so yea id say im in the top 15-20 range.

NAX PRIME
07-01-2011, 12:08 PM
Considering that Bull and I were outnumbered 2-4 our traditional stun locking wall defense would not have been able to stop all four of you. Hiding against a experienced team of grand masters is also ill advised based on my eight months playing this game I know that they will find me.

The only other option is to become elusive by stunning and running. Considering Bull and I are adept at running we decided to run on defense for that match, I believe dig dug and crew had a total of a little over 3000 points by the time the offensive round was over.

We still lost the match because a couple of newbs entered for our offensive round and would get stun locked by you guys. So you guys still had a total team score between 11-15K. Your just not going to get your monster scored against us because we know how you play and how to counter it.

Bottomline, if I have a full team of GM's that I know, I will play wall with them and stun box until death, However if you are outnumbered 2-4 then point starving by running is a viable strategy that I have even seen used in the tournament since point starving and kill streak prevention is a viable strategy that is used by some of the best grand masters.

Thebullwillwn2
07-01-2011, 01:08 PM
For some odd reason hades is the only PERSON WHO ACTUALLY RANKED HIMSELF!!! lol all u guys gotta do is rank urself lol sheesh. It's not that hard. I believe hades is up there as well.

BigBalledEagle
07-01-2011, 01:35 PM
I have played against a lot of solid Manhunt players and usually fare quite well. It is difficult to rank myself, since there are a few of the top players that I have rarely encountered.

DigDug510
07-01-2011, 02:54 PM
@Nax and Bull:

Thanks for the explanations. I guess I could have made it a lot simpler and just asked if you guys wall with a full team. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

I don't think we locked anyone on defense in that match, though. We were playing stun n run. Like you said, we had 3k after the first round. To wall in that situation is asking to lose, since 5 decent kills is going to close that gap. Basically in one exchange, a 3k lead can be gone.

Point starving works for wins. It just doesn't make for very pretty scores at the end of a game.

H4D3S_1NF3RN0
07-01-2011, 08:13 PM
^^^^^^^^ who is this guy?

DigDug510
07-01-2011, 08:31 PM
^^^^^^^^^The best bullet shield in the game...^^^^^^^^^

(referring to myself, of course)

Redbanana27
07-01-2011, 08:42 PM
Im pretty kick *** at assassanate... I bearly lose any games (i play like a stealthy ****i g ninja before anyone asks not someone who runs around and locks on at the last swcond which strangely has never worked on me even though some people seem to be complaining about this[even when they use smoke bombs and i dont!!!]) but in manhunt i normally do best ij team... Or game (unless people steal poisons like little *****es!!! >http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.) sorry i hate when people do that.

But ye assassinate my game... I would sY top 25 maybe 10 on a good day for assassinate.

lx_Reafer_xl
07-01-2011, 09:56 PM
I don't really understand how we're supposed to "rank" ourselves.

I mean... I've been in some Assassinate matches with some fairly high ranked people, and I've won a few and lost a few.
It all depends on the rest of the lobby/how I'm playing at the moment.

I guess if I had to rank myself though, I'd say around 20ish?
Since that's where I actually am in the FFA pyramid.

Rainin420
07-02-2011, 04:57 AM
Asking people to rank themselves is silly.

Anyone who ranks themselves top 5 is just boasting and will likely be flamed...

Also, saying who is the best only judging from manhunt is also quite rediculous, manhunt is a team game, and while individual skills are surely easy enough to see, lag and teamwork play a huge role in how matches play out. In my personal opinion free-for-all is where true skill for a single player is shown true.

Also, people who are considered some of the best in this game can play all of the modes at a competitive level. If all you play is manhunt then you are not one of the best at this game, but you might possibly be one of the best at manhunt.

I also must comment about your defense of your running strategy 2v4. I've faced many premades 2v4, even some of the best team's, and i've still double streaked plenty of times, even won some of the games 2v4. Just because they might destroy you doesn't mean you should run, just play your best and you'll get much more respect. Even 1v4 can be done legitly without running except when your abilities are down, i am usually only playing manhunt to get scores so i don't usually stick around 1v4 against really good premades, but if i have all my scores then i might. Like i said you probably won't win, but you can give them hell. Running just gives them a horrible opinion of your skill level imo. Since anyone that runs in manhunt gets little respect from me, unless its in a tournament and you're up alot after your offense round and you're point starving. Ranked is playing for points, if you really care about your team winning so much 2v4 i think that's pretty funny. Anyone who's an experienced player that point starves in ranked manhunt is griefing plain and simple. They're trying to make the other team have less fun, and i tend to not support this.

H4D3S_1NF3RN0
07-02-2011, 05:42 AM
this thread is talking about top notch players in manhunt. not in assassinate, or wanted, or chest capture, or escort, or advanced wanted, or alliance, or advanced alliance ( felt i should name them all because people that dont see the point in this thread cant just go on their way without posting something stupid). What me and bull were talking about was if all the noobs just left, and i mean all of them, and all there was to play was all the TOP NOTCH players for one month strait, where do you believe you would be ranked after that month? I dont care what anyone says, or feals about this, the templar scores mean nothing if you cant get those scores against people that know what there doing. Give me three noobs against anyteam ( hkp, asians,brms, j2h, or anyother clan im forgetting) in this game on manhunt, I may not win, but i will (guarantee) score over 6500 points and single handedly stop any stun train from happening for more then 30 seconds, they may get me and my randoms down but it wont last long. I only know (seen with my own two eyes) one other person that will play a match by themselves against 4 organized mic using, stun training templars ( on a consistent basis and play well) and thats chernzobog.

Rainin: I used to be top 20 all modes, the only one i couldnt break into the top 100 of was FFA and thats because I dont play assassinate and only play 5 wanted games a week but I win all 5 of them and I got up to 105 in FFA before I went on vacation, then i droped back to 900 over those two weeks and gave up on everythig besides team modes.

Rainin420
07-02-2011, 06:05 AM
I wasn't calling anyone here bad. And there's alot more then just chernz that will take a 1v4 like that. I know of quite a few.

Also, i agree that Templar Score isn't everything. It is only your skill+how much you play+what lobbies you are lucky enough to get into. But it does mean something, if someone has more templar score then you by a lot, chances are unless they boost, they are better then you. It could be that you are better then them though, of course. The only way to find out is playing against them. And i just don't think that manhunt is the best place to 1v1. I just don't like how i see alot of manhunt players that think manhunt is the only real mode to be competitive with. Assassinate is the most underrated mode, almost everyone who hates it didn't even give it a chance. Facing off in assassinate with some of the best people has been the most fun i've had. It is the most fast-paced quick thinking/reaction time in this game. SO much is going on at once, it's not just, oh im defending so we stun, or oh im attacking so i kill. It's both at the same time. Manhunt is very fun though, i just don't like all the 4v2 in ranked which is why i rarely play with 4 people anymore. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

If manhunt games started with 8 instead of 6 i'd like manhunt again. You're right in that i didn't realize he was only talking about manhunt. I apologize for bringing other modes into this thread.

If i played manhunt exclusively or mainly like alot of you i might be able to accurately rank myself amongst the good players, but I dont play it enough to do that. I'm around 30th right now with just barely getting in games for scores right now, but so many people have quit, and alot of it is as you said, finding those noob lobbies where people don't know what's going on and racking up points.

H4D3S_1NF3RN0
07-02-2011, 06:43 AM
I couldnt have said it better myself Rainin. All modes in this game are extremely important in basing overall skill. I know more people will play a 1v4, which is why I said the only one i seen with my own two eyes is chernz ( on a consistent basis, I have seen others play the match, but quit more often then they play ) I like assassinate, just with my style of play, I get exposed alot so my kills are usually only worth 150. And bull wasnt clear on what mode he was talking about, but im almost sure its manhunt ( only mode he really plays anymore, though he is a beast in alliance) I also feal you are right with most the people ahead of me in templar score are better then me, which is why I ranked myself from 15-20 (currently ranked 22 in manhunt) Manhunt Templar Scores are based exactly as you said "skill+how much you play+what lobbies you are lucky enough to get into" But I truly feal that if it was based on the level of competetion you play, and the scores you got while playing that level of competetion, I believe the core set of players that are in the top 35 would generally stay in the Top 35, but it would be switched up a bit.

Rainin420
07-02-2011, 06:46 AM
I'd prefer the game be highly competitive like that as well. I don't like when people quit making things 4v2. That's what i don't like about manhunt, uneven teams and quitters. I would say lag, runners and gunners as well but i think that applies to this game as a whole.

Updated my signature a bit for anyone who was confused about who i am. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

H4D3S_1NF3RN0
07-02-2011, 07:36 AM
what DLC do you play on Rainin?

H4D3S_1NF3RN0
07-02-2011, 07:39 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ wow just realized that was the dumbest question ive ever asked someone...... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Thebullwillwn2
07-02-2011, 10:21 AM
I was mainly talking about manhunt. I could argue with rainin about team vs. Individual but that's a long argument. I'm just saying it's hard to get 4 or 3 players on the same page when it comes to team. It's difficult and even the best individual players look like crap when it comes to team. But everyone has their game modes.

But yes I was talking about manhunt. When it comes to team vs. Individual, a good example is track and field vs. Football. Track is individual and football is team. The comparisons and contrasts are there.

But I give u props rainin. I honestly suck at FFA but excel at team!!!

U could always post a top assassinate thread.

PryingTuna85649
07-02-2011, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by Rainin420:
Assassinate is the most underrated mode, almost everyone who hates it didn't even give it a chance. Facing off in assassinate with some of the best people has been the most fun i've had. It is the most fast-paced quick thinking/reaction time in this game. SO much is going on at once, it's not just, oh im defending so we stun, or oh im attacking so i kill. It's both at the same time.

I do have to say that Assassinate takes some time getting used to. I hated it at first and still have a hard time with it, but it's getting better and thus more fun. It's just very difficult to swallow your pride and be killed every time you turn a corner when you first start playing.

Rainin420
07-02-2011, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by H4D3S_1NF3RN0:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ wow just realized that was the dumbest question ive ever asked someone...... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Haha. You just weren't thinking when you said it, which is something i do fairly often as well. ;D

But yeah, alliance is 0 or 2, manhunt i'll play on all DLC's, and the others are fairly obvious since they only work on 2.0 and 3.0.

Like i said i don't play that much manhunt which is why you'll barely see me there, and i am mainly going for scores so you won't see me stay if i don't like the lobby. Maybe if im bored..I kinda just like getting in, getting green, and getting back to assassinate or RL.

Zoidberg747
07-02-2011, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by H4D3S_1NF3RN0:
) one other person that will play a match by themselves against 4 organized mic using, stun training templars ( on a consistent basis and play well) and thats chernzobog.

Hell, ill do that and im not even that great. I love facing HKP, WLP, BRMS, J2H etc. and getting my *** whooped. A lot of times I see how they kill and stun lock and learn from them. I once faced a team of HKP with one random 2v4 and it was fun as hell. It was a good random and it still took us half of the killing round to figure out how to kill one of them in their group without getting stunned. My point is, if you find yourself facing an organized team stay and learn because it will make you better in the long run.

Citizen War
07-02-2011, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by Rainin420:
I also must comment about your defense of your running strategy 2v4. I've faced many premades 2v4, even some of the best team's, and i've still double streaked plenty of times, even won some of the games 2v4. Just because they might destroy you doesn't mean you should run, just play your best and you'll get much more respect. Even 1v4 can be done legitly without running except when your abilities are down, i am usually only playing manhunt to get scores so i don't usually stick around 1v4 against really good premades, but if i have all my scores then i might. Like i said you probably won't win, but you can give them hell. Running just gives them a horrible opinion of your skill level imo. Since anyone that runs in manhunt gets little respect from me, unless its in a tournament and you're up alot after your offense round and you're point starving. Ranked is playing for points, if you really care about your team winning so much 2v4 i think that's pretty funny. Anyone who's an experienced player that point starves in ranked manhunt is griefing plain and simple. They're trying to make the other team have less fun, and i tend to not support this.

The point of playing the game is not necessarily to get points. It's to have fun and win. You can win by making yourself a difficult target, run or not. Ever play Wanted?

I love how some players think that they're entitled to at least 7 or 8k a game in Manhunt. They're not.

Nor are they entitled to dictate how others play. I have little against anyone using any ability or moving however they want.
I rage too when some people run from me. But I'm really raging that I created/picked the wrong set to deal with it.

Templar Score is really a judge of how many full games an experienced player can get against terrible competition. I don't blame people who are addicted to the relaxing experience of stunning in that lucky lobby with 4 noobs who won't quit or hit "y" (triangle for ps3?). Then they get their 11-20k games in for the week. Next week rinse, repeat. There are different tricks that people use to get into those lobbies. Some people get on at the busiest times.

On top of that there are people who quit before a game ends because they weren't playing in a lobby with 4 noobs and they didn't get above their point average. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

People get DC'd too.

This has been going on for months. I hope that the scoring system in the next game is different to deal with cowards like these.

You're right though, RaininStormWake, it is difficult to judge the best from Manhunt alone.

It's difficult to judge the best in FFA modes and Alliance given the boosting and groups present ever since DLC 3.0. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif You can't judge from the leaderboards. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif There is boosting in Manhunt, too.

I heard that Revelations is going to have player cards and even better stat tracking (from the Gamespot interview)... this should make things interesting.

Rainin420
07-02-2011, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by CitizenWar:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rainin420:
I also must comment about your defense of your running strategy 2v4. I've faced many premades 2v4, even some of the best team's, and i've still double streaked plenty of times, even won some of the games 2v4. Just because they might destroy you doesn't mean you should run, just play your best and you'll get much more respect. Even 1v4 can be done legitly without running except when your abilities are down, i am usually only playing manhunt to get scores so i don't usually stick around 1v4 against really good premades, but if i have all my scores then i might. Like i said you probably won't win, but you can give them hell. Running just gives them a horrible opinion of your skill level imo. Since anyone that runs in manhunt gets little respect from me, unless its in a tournament and you're up alot after your offense round and you're point starving. Ranked is playing for points, if you really care about your team winning so much 2v4 i think that's pretty funny. Anyone who's an experienced player that point starves in ranked manhunt is griefing plain and simple. They're trying to make the other team have less fun, and i tend to not support this.

The point of playing the game is not necessarily to get points. It's to have fun and win. You can win by making yourself a difficult target, run or not. Ever play Wanted?

I love how some players think that they're entitled to at least 7 or 8k a game in Manhunt. They're not.

Nor are they entitled to dictate how others play. I have little against anyone using any ability or moving however they want.
I rage too when some people run from me. But I'm really raging that I created/picked the wrong set to deal with it.

Templar Score is really a judge of how many full games an experienced player can get against terrible competition. I don't blame people who are addicted to the relaxing experience of stunning in that lucky lobby with 4 noobs who won't quit or hit "y" (triangle for ps3?). Then they get their 11-20k games in for the week. Next week rinse, repeat. There are different tricks that people use to get into those lobbies. Some people get on at the busiest times.

On top of that there are people who quit before a game ends because they weren't playing in a lobby with 4 noobs and they didn't get above their point average. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

People get DC'd too.

This has been going on for months. I hope that the scoring system in the next game is different to deal with cowards like these.

You're right though, RaininStormWake, it is difficult to judge the best from Manhunt alone.

It's difficult to judge the best in FFA modes and Alliance given the boosting and groups present ever since DLC 3.0. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif You can't judge from the leaderboards. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif There is boosting in Manhunt, too.

I heard that Revelations is going to have player cards and even better stat tracking (from the Gamespot interview)... this should make things interesting. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I said the point of ranked was to get points, because ranked is all about the templar grade pyramid.. clearly :P

If you're doing scrims or player matches or anything else, points aren't a big deal. Just saying, everyone plays ranked for points, can't really say otherwise.

You mention boosting, and i clearly remember you calling me a booster to a bunch of people i know. My highest session score is 16k, im clearly not a booster. Check out some of the stats for l4nge and legends and a few HKP and you'll see who's boosted.

DEMON-12_21_2O12
07-02-2011, 07:51 PM
in a standard wanted match i usually wind up around 5200-5500 and place first, or at least top 2. if not that im at the bottom having a complete disaster.

most of my matches are with really fast paced and good players. havent had the chance to really play and noobies on PS3

Thebullwillwn2
07-02-2011, 08:26 PM
Honestly I love the people who chime in saying hey I score good scores but I'm ok. I might actually suck if I play grand masters lol hahahhahahahaha. Lol I get it ur good at the game not great. But please RANK URSELF!!!!

Redbanana27
07-02-2011, 08:38 PM
I font get the people that are saying "we meant manhunt" if yiu meant manhunt then put it in the BLOODY title of the discussion. It just says your rank of high competitors (or something like that) not rank of how good you are after all the noobs have left the game and everyone in the world is magically playing manhunt.

DEMON-12_21_2O12
07-02-2011, 09:14 PM
ill be honest, rank really doesnt mean much on video games. look at the top of the leaderboard, 200+games, even utriej : 342 games last week(not calling you out, using you as an example since ive gotten the chance to play with you several times).

its all in how many games you play and how well you do in that game, which may be full of GM or noobs.

you can take the top 1000 players, and the top 10 may not be in the top 500 when all is said and done

as for me, im ranked 3933 in "FREE FOR ALL" but all i play is wanted. and only 15-20 games per week(at max) yet i consistently take 1st in all my games which are packed with grand masters

Rainin420
07-02-2011, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Demon12-21-2012:
ill be honest, rank really doesnt mean much on video games. look at the top of the leaderboard, 200+games, even utriej : 342 games last week(not calling you out, using you as an example since ive gotten the chance to play with you several times).

its all in how many games you play and how well you do in that game, which may be full of GM or noobs.

you can take the top 1000 players, and the top 10 may not be in the top 500 when all is said and done

as for me, im ranked 3933 in "FREE FOR ALL" but all i play is wanted. and only 15-20 games per week(at max) yet i consistently take 1st in all my games which are packed with grand masters

If you can consistantly beat the top 10 people in free for all, then maybe your point would be valid. Also it's debatable that Wanted is even free for all. Since once you're in first you have a constant 3 pursuer's and targets and pursuers are randomly assigned. Assassinate is the only true free for all mode in ACB, atleast in my opinion. You may not like assassinate but you can't deny it's much more of a free for all mode then Wanted.

DEMON-12_21_2O12
07-02-2011, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by Rainin420:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Demon12-21-2012:
ill be honest, rank really doesnt mean much on video games. look at the top of the leaderboard, 200+games, even utriej : 342 games last week(not calling you out, using you as an example since ive gotten the chance to play with you several times).

its all in how many games you play and how well you do in that game, which may be full of GM or noobs.

you can take the top 1000 players, and the top 10 may not be in the top 500 when all is said and done

as for me, im ranked 3933 in "FREE FOR ALL" but all i play is wanted. and only 15-20 games per week(at max) yet i consistently take 1st in all my games which are packed with grand masters

If you can consistantly beat the top 10 people in free for all, then maybe your point would be valid. Also it's debatable that Wanted is even free for all. Since once you're in first you have a constant 3 pursuer's and targets and pursuers are randomly assigned. Assassinate is the only true free for all mode in ACB, atleast in my opinion. You may not like assassinate but you can't deny it's much more of a free for all mode then Wanted. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i dont play assassinate, dont have the third DLC

Rainin420
07-02-2011, 10:44 PM
You should really think about getting it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It's worth it. Escort is fun sometimes, and Assassinate is great(you'll hate it at first, guaranteed, we all did.)

giaquinto718
07-02-2011, 11:14 PM
Wild Witch and Emma are in my eyes the only two people who can successfly face anyone and do well no matter who they are, witch is the best player on 360 period

sht4brainz
07-02-2011, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by Demon12-21-2012:
you can take the top 1000 players, and the top 10 may not be in the top 500 when all is said and done Can't disagree much. Some are good at assassinate and others aren't. That's why I think if you're top 600-700 in ffa, you're pretty good, I guess.

as for me, im ranked 3933 in "FREE FOR ALL" but all i play is wanted. and only 15-20 games per week(at max) yet i consistently take 1st in all my games which are packed with grand masters If you played a few more games a week, you could probably distinguish yourself from those around your "ranking" (which is subjective, it's just a number) Also remember that the "Sessions played" stat is TOTAL ffa games played, so if I played mostly "Player" games (which I do) it would still count toward matches played stat. So don't dissect that number too much.

sht4brainz
07-02-2011, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by Demon12-21-2012:
i dont play assassinate, dont have the third DLC

Don't bother. If you don't like the lock system, you will despise Assassinate. Save your money.

Stowdace
07-02-2011, 11:27 PM
I don't know, I find it easier to get Team points in Chest Capture. Easier to camp and wait for them in hay bales and whatnot.

^You don't have to buy the DLC for the multiplayer, you can enjoy single just as much.

Citizen War
07-03-2011, 05:51 AM
Originally posted by Rainin420:

I said the point of ranked was to get points, because ranked is all about the templar grade pyramid.. clearly :P

If you're doing scrims or player matches or anything else, points aren't a big deal. Just saying, everyone plays ranked for points, can't really say otherwise.

You mention boosting, and i clearly remember you calling me a booster to a bunch of people i know. My highest session score is 16k, im clearly not a booster. Check out some of the stats for l4nge and legends and a few HKP and you'll see who's boosted.

Hey Rainin, it's good to defend yourself. Here are a few things that I'd like to say.

First off, the Ranked game in question was months ago. Shall we forget it? I don't play with you often these days.

I said to someone you know that you were playing with others in a group and that it was suspicious. You seemed to be defending each other. In addition, you gloated publicly about shooting me with your friends in a Ranked game mode that is supposed to be single player. This was, you said, revenge for me shooting you, because you were always on the roof. (That is a perfectly legitimate thing to do) There was no game chat chatter so you were obviously in a party with them. You also told me that I shouldn't be a clan leader or something.

During that time period, I repeatedly ran into boosters in Alliance and Assassinate. Some of these people were on your friends' list and in that game. I don't remember their clan affiliation and I cannot publicly name them here due to the "no name and shame" policy. I don't know if you played with them often.

Yes I talked to others about the incident and they also said that they had seen you and others playing with groups in Ranked Assassinate or Alliance. I can't confirm what they're saying. I don't know if you were playing your heart out trying to kill your friends or not before I came into the game. But you publicly admitted that, "We shot you."

It's not cool to play in groups in a Ranked single-player game. That's what Player matches are for. If the matchmaking happened like that on accident, I understand. If you don't do this anymore I understand.

Man I would love to spill the beans on some boosters that I know, but I can't because of forum policy.

I won't say anything more about that game from now on.

Regarding your other points, the end goal of the AC:B multiplayer can be to win or to have fun. Not everyone plays for massive score. Do you think that all of the smurfs that we meet are playing for high scores? How about people renting the game? My point was that I get sick of people leaving games because all that they care about are scores. I get a little bored of being asked to endlessly stun box noobs, too.

Let's agree to disagree, no? We both have different goals of our own.


Originally posted by Thebullwillwn2:
Honestly I love the people who chime in saying hey I score good scores but I'm ok. I might actually suck if I play grand masters lol hahahhahahahaha. Lol I get it ur good at the game not great. But please RANK URSELF!!!!

Who wants to come out and say that they have a huge ego?

People should be proud of their high scores if they got them legitimately (against anybody). People should be proud of being a good player if they give people looking for high scores or a challenge... a challenge. (grammar sense make?)

H4D3S_1NF3RN0
07-03-2011, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by giaquinto718:
Wild Witch and Emma are in my eyes the only two people who can successfly face anyone and do well no matter who they are, witch is the best player on 360 period

Couldnt agree more with you on Wildwitch being the best player on 360. withou a doubt she is just beast mode super ninja all the time. I dont agree with your first statement though.

DEMON-12_21_2O12
07-03-2011, 07:36 PM
i dont want the DLC for the game modes, i want it for the new maps and characters lol.

Ripe Claw
07-03-2011, 08:18 PM
I rank myself in the top 55,509 in Manhunt. In the game as a whole on all modes of all time, I would say I am at least in the top 156,139. On Xbox That is for ranked. I feel bad for poor ssdusty13 I bet he gets picked on at school for being the lowest ranked player to ever play ranked.

If you talk player matches I would consider myself in the top 197,331.

I know I am ranked Higher than poopingbetsy she is ranked 1,900,019

I am certainly higher than mydadcanbtupurdad he is 1,973,051 I guess he should have had his dad play the game for him too.

DEMON-12_21_2O12
07-03-2011, 08:47 PM
just noticed new scores were in. last week i was ranked 3933 overall(or somewhere down there) in free for all. now, im 1767 with 61 sessions played last week. all modes im ranked 7090 lol, and i only play wanted, how is that possible? haha



id like to be top 500 in free for all within the next two weekly updates

Occido Lumen
07-03-2011, 11:52 PM
Meh. played a total of 6 or 7 wanted games and moved to 128 from 500 somethin. Also, made top 60 in every other game mode (was out of top 100 in everyting last week). hooray top 50 overall

PryingTuna85649
07-04-2011, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by Demon12-21-2012:
just noticed new scores were in. last week i was ranked 3933 overall(or somewhere down there) in free for all. now, im 1767 with 61 sessions played last week. all modes im ranked 7090 lol, and i only play wanted, how is that possible? haha



id like to be top 500 in free for all within the next two weekly updates

I'd just like to get scores like I had last week. Somehow managed to get 6900 for my top FFA ranked score (the lowest was in the 5k range) with a similar set of scores in Team matches. Not that the numbers really matter, but I went from 547 to 407 in FFA and from something in the upper thousand range to 613 in Global.

If I could manage to pull off similar scores, I'd know it wasn't just luck/a fluke and that I am actually getting better. But this also depends on being able to get into a match, also. :/