any news, gossip, etc.???

[haplo39]

Ubi forgat us, is there anyone who knows about patches, new extensions, developments, etc.

[Shredst0r]

it´s getting time to announce a new addon ffs... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Elementalist.]

Easy guys, we aren't even into 2.2 yet! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Heck even 1.5 has not been raleased and some things should be fixed before moving on with the new addon. You think the dwarves' costs are fine right now?

[Skaflok]

Originally posted by Elementalist.:
Easy guys, we aren't even into 2.2 yet! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Heck even 1.5 has not been raleased and some things should be fixed before moving on with the new addon. You think the dwarves' costs are fine right now?
I have no problem with that. my concerne is: WHERE THE HELL ARE BARBARIANS http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

[Elementalist.]

Mine 'why not nagas'? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Oh well I can't be helped and I can't say I dislike orcs or nomads for that matter. Maybe it won't even be what we expect.

[Shredst0r]

it has to be orcs!
at least to logically continue the campaign plot...

[mechnic]

I hear Niaval is working on an new HOMM. It will be called "Hopes of Many Maniacs"
It will include incomplete installations, confusing updates, simplistic error messages, inordinate frustration, no communication what-so-ever, dumb AI (if you can get the game to run staisfactorly), very poor translations, very shallow plot lines, a lousy rmg, poor/non-existant support, poor programming, a complete disregard for the end user, game stopping bugs on computers we didn't test it on, inadequate amount of maps, missing maps, broken promises, and last but not least; lots of money in our pockets!!!!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

[Elementalist.]

Don't tell me you have inside information? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

[C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s]

Actually we're getting close to some news for the patches AND the 2nd expansion. I haven't heard any exact dates yet, but it's not long off.

[KingImp]

Originally posted by mechnic:
I hear Niaval is working on an new HOMM. It will be called "Hopes of Many Maniacs"
It will include incomplete installations, confusing updates, simplistic error messages, inordinate frustration, no communication what-so-ever, dumb AI (if you can get the game to run staisfactorly), very poor translations, very shallow plot lines, a lousy rmg, poor/non-existant support, poor programming, a complete disregard for the end user, game stopping bugs on computers we didn't test it on, inadequate amount of maps, missing maps, broken promises, and last but not least; lots of money in our pockets!!!!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

That was good! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Here's a question for everyone. I don't expect this to happen, but let's play "What if?"

A lot of people seem to want the Orcs/Barbarians while a lot of others want the Nagas/Swampies. How would everyone feel if in the end this next faction was a combination of both?

Like I said, it's definitely a long shot, but "what if?"

[Elementalist.]

An alliance of orcs and nagas living in a swamp? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Yes, a long shot and kinda unfitting. I can live with either of them but I just would like to play a naga faction http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Good to know Chuckles! I expected so but an unofficial confirmation is always welcome hehe http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[mechnic]

We're like mushrooms; kept in the dark and fed a lot of $h_t!!!

As I recall the orcs were always in dry places or at least their town was that way. So I'm wondering if we got a combination of both the orcs and the nagas would there be more complications?? The nagas shedding their skins on the orcs wooden buildings and caves?? I would think the orcs would get really pissed off!!!
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http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[Elementalist.]

Originally posted by mechnic:
We're like mushrooms; kept in the dark and fed a lot of $h_t!!!


Wisest thing I've heard in a while! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I'm tempted to use it as a signature!

[smith-b-d]

There is not going to be any naga's
posted on - 06/03/07 (http://forum.nival.com/rus/showpost.php?p=707048&postcount=102)
google translate, is about upcomming patchs and expainsions as far as i can tell.

[alias-hw]

Well, I have been hanging in there until now to see if there will be Naga in the game, so I'll wait until the expansion is released just to be sure. But I can assure you that if indeed there are no Naga in the expansion, then there is nothing at all anymore to keep me interested in this game and then it's truly time to move on. Maybe that's a good thing though. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

H.W.

[Elementalist.]

I understand how you feel...I'll probably continue on but I am wondering how much it will be worth it in the end. I'll continue to be hopeful for now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[PhoenixReborn06]

What about the naga temple in the map editor? Or was that incorrectly identified, and it is in fact something else?

[KingImp]

I don't take anything Nival says anymore seriously as they have proven time and time again in the past to say one thing and the opposite happens. So, this latest news by "Old Boy" holds no weight with me at all.

If Fabrice came out and said it, it would be one thing, but Nival's reps usually have their heads up their asses and have no clue what they are talking about. Just ask Larissa.

Oh, and I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that a faction including Goblins is the next to be released. Why? Because of the poll that has been on the main page forever now.


How do you like your goblin?
Minced
Roasted
Frozen
Shaken
Mashed
I'm a vegetarian

Why put something like that up unless they were hinting at something.

[Jolly-Joker]

That's Dark Messiah stuff.

[KingImp]

Well, either way, it's either going to be Barbarians with Orcs and Goblins or Swamp with Nagas and snake-like units.

50%-50% chance of being right.

[Skaflok]

Originally posted by mechnic:
I hear Niaval is working on an new HOMM. It will be called "Hopes of Many Maniacs"
It will include incomplete installations, confusing updates, simplistic error messages, inordinate frustration, no communication what-so-ever, dumb AI (if you can get the game to run staisfactorly), very poor translations, very shallow plot lines, a lousy rmg, poor/non-existant support, poor programming, a complete disregard for the end user, game stopping bugs on computers we didn't test it on, inadequate amount of maps, missing maps, broken promises, and last but not least; lots of money in our pockets!!!!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Actually I don't feel like a maniac becouse I want my favorite faction in the game. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
Furthermore I think You are a very unbenevolent person cause possibly You have your favorit units and You don't care about other people.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
I mean really I don't see anything weird for HoMM V to have new factions ( barbarians, swampies and so on )and many neutral units http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[alias-hw]

Originally posted by Skaflok:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mechnic:
I hear Niaval is working on an new HOMM. It will be called "Hopes of Many Maniacs"
It will include incomplete installations, confusing updates, simplistic error messages, inordinate frustration, no communication what-so-ever, dumb AI (if you can get the game to run staisfactorly), very poor translations, very shallow plot lines, a lousy rmg, poor/non-existant support, poor programming, a complete disregard for the end user, game stopping bugs on computers we didn't test it on, inadequate amount of maps, missing maps, broken promises, and last but not least; lots of money in our pockets!!!!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Actually I don't feel like a maniac becouse I want my favorite faction in the game. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
Furthermore I think You are a very unbenevolent person cause possibly You have your favorit units and You don't care about other people.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif
I mean really I don't see anything weird for HoMM V to have new factions ( barbarians, swampies and so on )and many neutral units http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Um, you do realize that mechnic was joking, right?
He was not talking about wanting factions, or which factions, but about how Nival was going to mess it up anyway. Basically, if you reread mechnic's post you will see that it's really just a list of all the things we already had to suffer through at Nival's hands.

H.W.

[alias-hw]

Originally posted by KingImp:
I don't take anything Nival says anymore seriously as they have proven time and time again in the past to say one thing and the opposite happens. So, this latest news by "Old Boy" holds no weight with me at all.

If Fabrice came out and said it, it would be one thing, but Nival's reps usually have their heads up their asses and have no clue what they are talking about. Just ask Larissa.




Which is why I'm actually waiting until the factual release. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I wouldn't put it past ˜Old Boy' to say it's not in the expansion, just so that he can say ˜surprise' when the expansion comes out with the Naga in it. I mean, Nival's strange sense of humor is legendary by now.

H.W.

[Elementalist.]

Strange? More like nonexistent...Both ingame AND in OldBoy's replies. Though I kinda liked the Solmyr part http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[smith-b-d]

Unless a expansion includes better modding capabilities im not comming back... currently there is so much wrong modding the game that i could write wishlist bigger than the other one just about it. Well i might come back if it contains something else really neet... rather than just more story.

Ive already uninstalled every game i have off my pc... but thats more just to take a break from gameing for awhile. You never realise how addicted you are to games till you take a break and get more work done in 2 days than you've gotten done all year.

Things the expansion needs (if there is going to be one):
- better modding capabilities
- new faction
- integration between expansions + original

[Shredst0r]

2 new factions plz...
don´t see the reason to have a 3rd expansion just for the sake of a new faction.

[Moragauth]

Originally posted by Shredst0r:
2 new factions plz...
don´t see the reason to have a 3rd expansion just for the sake of a new faction.
1 is enough. 8 factions is the absolute limit IMO (unless it makes Renegade a faction, then 9 is okay). If Nival wants to, it ought to combine barbarians with swamp. I'd rather it improved the existing factions and gave them each a new tier unit (a new tier 5, pushing existing 5, 6 and 7 up one each to 6, 7 and 8 respectively - technically it'd be a 4.5 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif).

[smith-b-d]

Originally posted by Moragauth:
I'd rather it improved the existing factions and gave them each a new tier unit (a new tier 5, pushing existing 5, 6 and 7 up one each to 6, 7 and 8 respectively - technically it'd be a 4.5 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif).
If they were going to do that i would like them to add three new tiers per team... that way you can mix & match units within a army to best suit a hero, they would also need more unit specialist skills.

[Moragauth]

Originally posted by smith-b-d:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Moragauth:
I'd rather it improved the existing factions and gave them each a new tier unit (a new tier 5, pushing existing 5, 6 and 7 up one each to 6, 7 and 8 respectively - technically it'd be a 4.5 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif).
If they were going to do that i would like them to add three new tiers per team... that way you can mix & match units within a army to best suit a hero, they would also need more unit specialist skills. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This IS ubisoft we're talking about, but hey if they could do that it would be cool. I just don't want more factions. I've had enough of them. 1 more plus Renegade will suffice.

[KingImp]

The only reason why I do want to see 2 more factions added is simply because I can't decide which I want more. The Barbarians on the dry land or the Snake-like people in the swamps.

Honestly, I think this game needs both and even though I asked the question "what if they were combined" I think it would be a pretty dumb idea (knowing Ubival, it will most likely happen now).

I still say they could easily add two factions in one expansion, but they won't do that simply because they'd rather get more money out of us by spreading it out.
Good for business? Yes.
Good for fans? No.

[C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s]

Well, I can definitely confirm the fact that the Naga's are NOT included in the 2nd expansion. I read that info from Nival on CH and directly asked Fabrice about it. He confirmed it. Same goes for the Crystal Dragon. He seemed somewhat surprised by the shock that statement generated in the community, but then I pointed out several things that lead us to assume that they'd be included (the naga temple in the editor, the naga/crystal dragon included in the text of the beta version, and the reference to the Nagas in the histories when describing the Dragon of Water as being the patriarch of the Nagas). He never gave a reason as to why they decided to not include them however. I'm guessing that it's still possible to add them as a neutral unit late in the development phase or even via a patch....but it seems unlikely. Sorry to burst your bubble there, but that's the skinny.

[mechnic]

Originally posted by C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s:
He seemed somewhat surprised by the shock that statement generated in the community

Just goes to show you How out of touch they are with the HOMM community !!!
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[KingImp]

Originally posted by C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s:
He seemed somewhat surprised by the shock that statement generated in the community, but then I pointed out several things that lead us to assume that they'd be included (the naga temple in the editor, the naga/crystal dragon included in the text of the beta version, and the reference to the Nagas in the histories when describing the Dragon of Water as being the patriarch of the Nagas). He never gave a reason as to why they decided to not include them however.

Translation: No one at Ubi or Nival thought anyone would be smart enough to find the hidden things in the editor that Nival was too lazy to take out before packing it and now they have no answer to the Naga questions.

[Jeff_G]

Originally posted by mechnic:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s:
He seemed somewhat surprised by the shock that statement generated in the community

Just goes to show you How out of touch they are with the HOMM community !!!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

While I would hope this is not true, their actions sure give the impression that its true. At the very least they definitely need a better PR department as well as better marketing research to keep abreast of what fans think is important.

[Monteniger]

But isn't it stupid (fore the sake of the story) to exclude a race whose patriarch is a dragon of Water.In HoF they introduced Fire dragon and his race ... so in this one they should introduce a race that worships Water!Right?
And it just sounds stupid to think of Water worshiping orcs!I immediately think of some blueish orcs whit spitting possibilities
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
And on the map is one town on the west(and it's called Karthal) and in the story Raelag goes east if I'm not mistaken. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[alias-hw]

Originally posted by C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s:
Well, I can definitely confirm the fact that the Naga's are NOT included in the 2nd expansion. I read that info from Nival on CH and directly asked Fabrice about it. He confirmed it. Same goes for the Crystal Dragon. He seemed somewhat surprised by the shock that statement generated in the community, but then I pointed out several things that lead us to assume that they'd be included (the naga temple in the editor, the naga/crystal dragon included in the text of the beta version, and the reference to the Nagas in the histories when describing the Dragon of Water as being the patriarch of the Nagas). He never gave a reason as to why they decided to not include them however. I'm guessing that it's still possible to add them as a neutral unit late in the development phase or even via a patch....but it seems unlikely. Sorry to burst your bubble there, but that's the skinny.


Ah, this makes me long back to the good old time (you know, right after HoF was released) in which everyone that has some contact with Ubi(people) was hinting that the Nagas would indeed be in the expansion.

Goes to show you that even the forum VIP's get no real info from Ubi.
Welcome all to the club of the uninformed people. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

H.W.

[Moragauth]

Originally posted by KingImp:
The only reason why I do want to see 2 more factions added is simply because I can't decide which I want more. The Barbarians on the dry land or the Snake-like people in the swamps.

Out of the two races, I'd prefer the amphibian or aquan one. I am sick of orcs. Every fantasy game has them, just like every fantasy game has to have the done to death high elves, humans and dwarves. Raelag did mention orcs in the last scene of HoF though, so who knows, Ubi might include them as a stop for him to visit. And I am sick of Raelag too. Hopefully the expansion will cast Eruina in some cool role. After all, given her profile it's funny she has no special part in the game whatsoever.

[Elementalist.]

Again I wish I could say that I can't believe this...

[Undead_495]

Things the expansion needs (if there is going to be one):
- better modding capabilities http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

[Shredst0r]

that we wont get to see nagas in a faction doesnt mean there´s no other sort of amphibian faction worshiping the dragon of water.

when you look closely at the map of ashan you can see the city of karthal far to the west. at first it looks like inferno but it has some kind of water puddle under it. most probably it is that anticipated amphibian race everyone is been talking about.
so we most probably will get a remake of the previous fortress faction this or next addon.

imo 1 new faction isnt enough for a 2nd addon. the 1st addon mainly included 1 new faction+renegades+caravas+simultan turns.
i don´t think there are more striking improvements to gameplay left, so 2 new factions at least are to be in the 2nd addon.

and i am saying at least beacause there might be anotherone faction missing to "complete" the total of 10factions. maybe nival is aiming for a even number of factions.

[Elementalist.]

10 is a bit too much for Nival to handle without scr*wing up things even more. On the other hand 8 is pretty logical and fulfilling at the same time.

[Shredst0r]

why logical?
which one ist stonehelm und which one ist karthal then?

[Elementalist.]

Their purpose may be campaign only.Almost all game maps have additional stuff not related to gameplay.

[Monteniger]

Originally posted by Shredst0r:
why logical?
which one ist stonehelm und which one ist karthal then?

Well Karthal will probably be some swamp type creatures town.And Stonhelm is simply a human town.And orcs don't have capital-smth like nomads...
But I would really like to see Faceless and Dragon knights,even without town.
Or as a tier 7 of some faction.
And just a thought - one faction for every dragon.That makes 9 factions(if we count Sar-Elam for the wiz.)But there could also be more factions worshipping same dragon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[Shredst0r]

argh speculating is so random... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
we ll see when it´s done.
i got to stop wasting my time thinking about that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Elementalist.]

These are but idle thoughts I doubt anyone really puts that much effort on speculating! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[KingImp]

I speculate that
we're getting close to some news and
it's not long off will actually mean months from now. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

[Elementalist.]

There you go, that's a most easy assumption and a very possible one too! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Moragauth]

Originally posted by Monteniger:
But I would really like to see Faceless and Dragon knights,even without town.
Or as a tier 7 of some faction.
And just a thought - one faction for every dragon.That makes 9 factions(if we count Sar-Elam for the wiz.)But there could also be more factions worshipping same dragon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
9 factions (10 including Renegades) is really pushing it though... I don't like games that overdo it in such a fashion.

As for the Faceless, what are they exactly? It only mentions that Tuidhana made a pact with them, and no more than that.

[Monteniger]

Originally posted by Moragauth:
9 factions (10 including Renegades) is really pushing it though... I don't like games that overdo it in such a fashion.

As for the Faceless, what are they exactly? It only mentions that Tuidhana made a pact with them, and no more than that.

9 factions (10 including Renegades) is really pushing it though... I don't like games that overdo it in such a fashion.

As for the Faceless, what are they exactly? It only mentions that Tuidhana made a pact with them, and no more than that.[/QUOTE]

But 8 or 9 is no big difference.And if for the sake of the story are needed then bring them on. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif And Renegades is not actually a Faction - just a 3rd upgrade of heaven creatures.Modernization and stuff!!!

And for the Faceless :
"The Ancient Age
Elder Wars – The Angels launch a crusade on the Faceless. The destruction is terrible, and the elder races suffer tremendously. Early civilizations and kingdoms are destroyed."-Whatever they where! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

But later they make a pact with Dark Elfes so it would be cool to see them in action!! Just as a 7 tier neutral could be fine but I doubt that they would make them in the first place anyway.

[Moragauth]

I'd prefer them as a neutral. They sound like divine powers though, so I doubt they will be in the game. I wonder if they're not linked to Malassa somehow...