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EAF_T_Techy
04-17-2006, 05:15 AM
Finished this at last. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

Comments , hints and tips all welcome and i am uploading it to Netwings for easier access but until then try this link ====

http://www.filefactory.com/?291da4


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EAF_T_Techy
04-17-2006, 05:15 AM
Finished this at last. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

Comments , hints and tips all welcome and i am uploading it to Netwings for easier access but until then try this link ====

http://www.filefactory.com/?291da4


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EAF_T_Techy
04-17-2006, 04:25 PM
Or This Link =====


http://rgbrowne.angeltowns.com/eaf/Doolittle_Final_WMM.wmv

BrewsterPilot
04-17-2006, 10:07 PM
70mb? BLOODY BIG! Downloading now.

krmichal
04-18-2006, 02:28 AM
Quite nice movie. Maybe not the best, but still nice. There was some stutter (don't know if it was on purpose), but generally it is OK.

And I don't consider 70 MB as big file, despite the fact I live in Poland, where there's a belief that we have poor Internet connections. As I can see, this is no longer true http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

EAF_T_Techy
04-19-2006, 05:12 AM
Now On NETWINGS http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

http://www.netwings.org/library/Forgotten%5FBattles%5Fa.../Videos/index-9.html (http://www.netwings.org/library/Forgotten%5FBattles%5Fand%5FPacific%5FFighters/Videos/index-9.html)


Come On Please Give Me Some Feedback http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

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Thx To WFAlbertsma below for correcting my link

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WFAlbertsma
04-19-2006, 07:02 AM
Maybe this version of the link works better !

http://www.netwings.org/library/Forgotten%5FBattles%5Fa.../Videos/index-9.html (http://www.netwings.org/library/Forgotten%5FBattles%5Fand%5FPacific%5FFighters/Videos/index-9.html)

Greetz, Wine'69

I'm D.L it right now, comments later on !

Nice movie my man !

It stays hard to rebuild a correct true historic mission, but you did really well !
Although the foto shoot's didn't look that great due to the pixel resise ?
The music was well choosen !
Overall I enjoyed it very much !
Great effort !
Waiting for the next one ...

HotelBushranger
04-20-2006, 04:02 AM
There were only 2 gripes I had.

Firstly, the Doolittle Raiders were B-25B's or C's, I can remember which. But they are vastly different from the J's used, and this detracted from the overall experience in my opinion.

Secondly, the bombers dropped their loads from a very short height, probably not even above 1000m. This would be suicide in real life, considering flak, fighters etc. And bombers rarely used low level attacks like that, except in the Pacific against shipping and airfields, never against cities and industrial districts. So a high level bombing would have made it more believeable for me.

On the good side, good framing, good music, good setting. Well done!

EAF_T_Techy
04-20-2006, 09:39 AM
Firstly may i thank you very much HotelBushRanger for taking the time to watch my first full movie and i very much value your opinion. S!
I used the J model relutantly as to be able to fly some of the scenes myself as the B & C models are AI.
I also watched 'Forty seconds over Tokyo' which is a fantastic movie with Spencer Tracy in it (or Was it 30 Seconds ??? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif) and in that was some real footage taken from the actual raid and this showed the brave pilots at very low level.(500ft ish)
In 1942 the Americans as i was lead to believe were not up to scratch with their bombing techniques (if i am wrong here please do not crucify me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif) Thx again mate .

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Joe-90
04-20-2006, 04:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Secondly, the bombers dropped their loads from a very short height, probably not even above 1000m. This would be suicide in real life, considering flak, fighters etc. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

From what I have read, they came in at wavetop level, dropped their bombs at rooftop level and got the hell outa there!

A suicide mission indeed, especially as they only had painted broom handles in the rear gunner positions to conserve weight for take off!!!

Anyway, not a bad movie, Techy, for a first attempt. I like to see historical remembrances. And you've already seen my seen my comments on the technical sides of the production http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Lets have some more then!

WFAlbertsma
04-22-2006, 03:38 AM
I was going through some pages while I was searching for some U.S.A.F. info and found these links to stories about the 'Doolittle Raid'.

http://www.af.mil/

Doolittle81
04-28-2006, 11:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HotelBushranger:
... the bombers dropped their loads from a very short height, probably not even above 1000m. This would be suicide in real life, considering flak, fighters etc. And bombers rarely used low level attacks like that, except in the Pacific against shipping and airfields, never against cities and industrial districts. So a high level bombing would have made it more believeable for me.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Doolittle raid was conducted at extremely low altitude, ingressing at wave-top level, as correctly depicted in this film.

3 years later, even the B29's were used at relatively low altitude, from 4900 feet to 9000feet...not at the high-altitudes(35,000+feet) for which they were originally designed/capable.

As for the film itself, it is a very nice tribute movie....I liked the mix of Black and white, sepia, desaturated color, etc; intersting techniques.

The photos are, as noted by someone else above, were too degraded/pixelated. This was a distraction in the film.

The music(Time to Say Goodbye...Con Te Partiro), while lovely, has been overused in IL2/FB-PF movies.

The story is presented well, but it's a bit slow(lacking action) at times...probably could have been a bit shorter, as a result.

Historically, none of the 16 bombers was shot down, over Japan or elsewhere, as depicted in this movie. Fifteen crash landed along the coast of China when their fuel ran out. One flew on to Russia.

Two of the crews were captured in China and brought to Japan for "Trial". Three crewmembers were executed there. The others imprisoned for the duration of the War.

All in all, a good movie...the release on the anniversary of the bombing raid was a nice touch.

Flying_Nutcase
07-21-2006, 10:16 PM
I liked it! Nice black and white look to the early part. Some nice angles and camera 'swoops'. I also liked the connection to real footage, and the photos too.

My pet peeves about a lot of movies and which made it into Doolittle Raiders are:
1) Close ups of explosions, which personally I think look terrible in Sturmi/PF and do the other nice visuals injustice.
2) Shots which make a plane look motionless (EDIT: While flying!).
3) Close-ups of buildings and vehicles, which are of relatively low quality in Sturmi/PF. Storm Of War will be a different story entirely.

Was that your first movie? Wow, great effort! I'm just starting to look at movie-making, mainly to be ready for Storm Of War. I won't be doing anything to that level for a long time.

S~

STENKA_69.GIAP
07-27-2006, 05:05 AM
Good first movie.

Well here's my gratuitous totaly biased opinion.

Use plenty of shots in cockpit and from gun positions, these make viewer feel more involved and instead of having 15 yawn seconds of plane flying you will have plane flying, cockpit view, plane flying.

Use more slow motion in the violent action bits - for example a falling B25 doesn't look convincing spinning fast like a top. Remember - in an accident everything seems to go into slow motion....

Be more sparing with camera shake it irritates me.

More use of static cameras

Can't comment on soundtrack as am at work and sound off.

Keep making those bomber movies

MJDYKAS
08-01-2006, 07:02 AM
Currently I am building a 1/350th scale model of the USS Hornet loaded with the Doolittle Raiders by Trumpeter. Even though there might be some little technical errors due to the game constraints, I found it very inspirational to press on with my model which now has about 125 hours into it. Very well done