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Nightmarecast24
03-08-2005, 10:23 AM
PS2 Version:
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2010.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2011.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2012.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2013.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2015.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2016.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2018.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2019.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2022.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2023.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2024.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2025.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2026.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2027.jpg

PC Version:
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc036.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc038.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc040.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc041.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc042.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc043.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc044.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc045.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc046.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc047.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc048.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc049.jpg

Nightmarecast24
03-08-2005, 10:23 AM
PS2 Version:
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2010.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2011.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2012.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2013.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2015.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2016.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2018.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2019.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2022.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2023.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2024.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2025.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2026.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p2/s/p/spc3p2027.jpg

PC Version:
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc036.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc038.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc040.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc041.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc042.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc043.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc044.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc045.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc046.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc047.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc048.jpg
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/s/p/spc3pc049.jpg

Serial_Jon
03-08-2005, 10:25 AM
Those "PS2" screens are terrible... they look like they're off the GCN version...

Ninj3r
03-08-2005, 10:25 AM
Nice.

GZA-LiquidSword
03-08-2005, 10:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Serial_Jon:
Those "PS2" screens are terrible... they look like they're off the GCN version... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You do know that the GCN is more powereful hardware, right? I said this in another thread, I dont know why the GCN version should look much worse than the Xbox version, as long as developers take the time to make a good port. The GCN has much more POTENTIAL to look better than the PS2, but that doesnt mean it will look better.

Of course Im getting it on the PC because they all look bad next to what you can do on the PC, but I just dont understand why the GC has such a bad rap with games like Resident Evil 4 outshining everything graphicswise on the PS2.

BTW, nice pics, thanks for posting them.

Lhorkan
03-08-2005, 10:37 AM
Heh, those goggles seem to be resized on the PS2 version. The PC screens look (of course) better.

Nice find BTW, nmc.

Dangerous_388
03-08-2005, 10:54 AM
These are terrible graphics compared to xbox. OMG gamespot said in some parts they look better than xbox http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

MindBlank_0_o
03-08-2005, 11:06 AM
Man, SCCT looks pretty good even on the old PS2 video chip...

Dangerous_388
03-08-2005, 11:13 AM
I was going to die when i first saw these screens then i read ps2 screens and i was happy again

Omega_224
03-08-2005, 11:21 AM
Eww.......Ohhh.

Very nice....for the PC. Man, it looks so real. I can't wait. Only 20 more daaaaaaaaaaaays!

Tesla7zap_
03-08-2005, 11:22 AM
OMFG The PS2 version looks like s***!!!

Shifty7777777
03-08-2005, 11:24 AM
i'm gettin this freakin game for the PC.....

collywog2004
03-08-2005, 11:25 AM
Glad i'm getting it for pc http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Great screens thanks for the screens http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Nightmarecast24
03-08-2005, 11:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MindBlank_0_o:
Man, SCCT looks pretty good even on the old PS2 video chip... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No it doesn't, from what I have seen, these graphics still have not surpassed or even closely matched the graphics of Metal Gear Solid 3. Sorry but it's true.

Harris123
03-08-2005, 11:25 AM
PS2 graphics doesnt even come near SC1 of xbox.

Shifty7777777
03-08-2005, 11:28 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif Duh...

Alex_HS
03-08-2005, 11:30 AM
Start selling those consoles and junkwear, the PC is the version that counts, some nice textures there, thanks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif.

MindBlank_0_o
03-08-2005, 11:35 AM
Just immagine 1280x1024 High Shadows goodnes. Drooling here!!

soul.Fivebla
03-08-2005, 11:46 AM
lol the first screen with morgenhold... really looking like sh**

NSA Agent
03-08-2005, 11:59 AM
Well I am very grateful that I have an XBOX, or I'd be stuck with the PS2 Version. The Graphical textures just look awful. The PC Screenshots are very crisp, outstanding graphics. Thanks NMC.

I.S.F-Dixxhead
03-08-2005, 11:59 AM
Were the guys on Gamespot on crack or what? Even a blind can see the diffrence here! Ps 2 surpasses Pc/Xbox graphics all the way !!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif


Actually to me some of them (especially the morgenholt one) look like a Bi-Linear filtered Hi-res version of the N-Gage version... LOL

c12l21t70
03-08-2005, 11:59 AM
i have a ps2, but this ones going on the pc! those pics look like pooo!

GZA-LiquidSword
03-08-2005, 12:00 PM
These screens show that for the best experience you should get this game on the PC!

Terrax213
03-08-2005, 12:04 PM
I just love how this thread, intended only to show some new screens, so quickly turned into a "ZOMG T3H UB3R 1337 PEEE CEEEE PWNXXXX0RS!!!!!!1111oneoneone" type thread. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Nightmarecast24
03-08-2005, 12:07 PM
I wasn't going to post this since the translation is horrible but meh, if you can make it out then good, if not sorry, and sorry to any french members for using altavista to destroy the language.

PC Preview:
"Whereas Metal Gear Solid 3 is already in the vats, the other large monster of the infiltration just starts to point the end of its nose which supports all the weight of its glasses of death. After the large file which had been devoted to him and to one month of its exit, small a preview of Splinter Cell Chaos Theory that does not make evil."

"It is very feverish which I installed the version preview EC Theory Chaos, and not only because I am sick like a dog (and try to play a play of infiltration while sneezing). If one could reproach Pandora Tomorrow his frilosity as regards innovation in the series, here is a shelf which is not likely to damage the moulding combination of Sam Fisher, this third shutter of Splinter Cell is announced much less mijor├ę.

If you already read the report which was devoted to him, perhaps you will not learn anything of nine, on the other hand I can already confirm a thing: the absolute linearity is not any more setting. Without going until speaking about opened levels, Sam evolves/moves today within more complex environments which abound in always obvious passages concealed not to find but which can prove of a great utility to thread in any discretion. But what takes into account more this new level design, it is that one has definitely less the feeling to follow the rails posed by the developers. One goes on the left, on the right, in top or in bottom and there are always multiple ways of achieving its goal. Fatally, that complicates a little the task per moments. If one were to think before of the good means of neutralizing a threat, one will have this time to think of the best way to follow. However do not await a total freedom of movements, the play remains linear but offers several access roads to the same point. Accordingly, the achievement of the objectives loses to him also its rigidity. The order of realization can for this reason be modified. In the same way, the failure of an objective is not necessarily synonymous with cancellation of the mission. If you kill a source of information inadvertently, you will be able to always seek a solution of help, by consulting an unspecified file. Of course, the task will be more delicate. And hold, I add a layer with the optional secondary objectives of it. , this said good, for what I saw, one cannot really shout with the genius on this point, at first sight they are not super enthralling.

This new freedom is with it only a puff of fresh air in the series, but it does not only arrive. It goes without saying Sam always has his panoply of movements jouissifs. In this third episode, it gains the new ones that I will not detail here. However, 2 new actions deserve to be announced and relate to in fact the combat with the body with body. If Sam tended not to be very sharp in this kind of situations, for Chaos Theory it took courses of coil-defense or Feng Shui, I do not know. Outwards, therefore, of being able to seize itself of a character or to stick his ridiculous cop usual conk to him, Fisher can henceforth launch an attack either to naked hand (nonlethal) or with blow of knife. It is the ideal when one is taken of short because one let oneself surprise stupidly. Incidentally, the knife will be extremely convenient to clear a passage in a fabric of tent.

Still new tricks? There is full, randomly, the number of contextual actions which increased, vis-a-vis to a door, you will be able to choose to violently open it, furtively, to hook it or make jump the lock. But if the solo mode knew many transformations, it is also on the level of the multijouor that gives it largely will change. In addition to the already famous mode Versus de Pandora Tomorrow, Chaos Theory will make discover with the players the joys of the infiltration into co-operative. A jubilatoire mode which will rest on a coordination without fault between the two agents. Coordination, but also a sling load of movements bearing the soft name of "coop moves". And that I make you the short scale, and that I suspend you by the feet. It will be even possible to project its partner by making him the blow of the Japanese small plank, a very effective means to pass over a system of detection on the ground, amongst other things... At the hour of the preview, the large difficulty which one will launch against this section of the multijouor is due to the number of playable charts: only 4. Knowing that it is far from being guaranteed to see arriving an editor of levels for the coop.

In short, when Splinter Cell Chaos Theory agitates under our nose its seducer charm, difficult not to have butterflies in the belly as in love stiff if one is fan of the noble discipline of the infiltration. Appointment on March 31.

Nightmarecast24
03-08-2005, 12:10 PM
PS2 Preview:

The agent Sam Fisher has nothing any more but one month before taking again the ground. Prepared like never, it involves us in its missions with the only instruction of following it most discreetly possible in order not to obstruct it in its operations. Put your black hood, one leaves without trailing.

Ah one can say that it holds a great form the Fisher father! Since its great beginnings in 2002, it is the third time that it takes us along on mission and that it shows us that he is well the right man for the job desperate. Always with the service of the NSA for which it works, Fisher is always that which is sent on the ground to regulate the international conflicts about to skid. With its natural aptitudes for the discretion and its panoply of gadgets to make jealous a Conk on the return, it is the only one with being able to infiltrate until in the enemy bases filling the objectives that one gives him. Then you think well that when a data-processing virus tackles the Japanese and American stock exchange places, and that the North Korea decides to invade its neighbor of the south, the NSA does not send any crotale come, but called upon Fisher, the only one which can put a term at this crisis. Good, you know the song, Sam arrive on the spot, play hide-and-seek with the guards and advance gradually towards the objective which its owner in the auricle dictates to him. Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory does not upset this rule, but announces the color: the experiment will be more thorough than in the two preceding parts. Force is to also note that indeed the trip is more intense, richer, more demanding, but ├┬┤ how much jouissif!

One cannot say that the players of Splinter 1 and 2 will be unbolted by discovering Chaos Theory, but they will undoubtedly be surprised by more pushed IA of the guards opposite which will react to the least noise, so tiny is it. I was thus located by the simple zoom of my rifle with telescopic sight! Incredible! With such a hearing, it becomes much more delicate to get rid of them and to carry out them in boat for better killing them. Even the tactics which are appropriate to attract them in a corner thanks to a noise or an unspecified object are more difficult to set up. On the one hand, the guards in alarm are extremely careful, on the other hand, they do not move inevitably at the places from which the noise comes. They can sometimes seek the source of the noise while leaving in the opposite direction if it acts of an object which one will have launched. In short, since the last time, the guards are much more malignant, they do not serve more simple distraction for Sam, but of real dangers if they do not pay attention to them.

In more of all its already known gadgets whose its glasses of infra-red vision, thermal and electronic, its jammer of camera, Sam has from now on in his implements a knife. Yes, yes, you read well, a simple knife. Undermine anything, this blade is of a great utility for the new mission of Fisher. Such point that one still wonders how it made to occur some during all this time. The knife has various possible uses. If it will be able to delicately cut flexible surfaces such as fabrics or plastics which bar the way, it takes all its direction in the close combat. Refusing the contact more, Sam can as well go to find his enemies to plant them as a traitor or to be useful himself of the knife only in the event of defense. He will be indeed faster to rather leave the blade than a weapon to fire. If the countryside solo profited from several improvements of this type, it is side of the multi which one however finds the most innovations.

You remember the multi mode of Pandora Tomorrow? Very well. Then will know that this versus mode is always of topicality, him which makes clash two teams with the equipment as different as complementary. Night google and combinations of invisibility for the ones, detector of movements and heart rates for the others. All that one knows already. On the other hand, which one does not know less, it is the co-operative mode which makes its appearance with Chaos Theory. As its name indicates it, it is a question of evolving/moving jointly with a friend on maps expressement envisaged for this purpose. It will not only be a question of attacking to two, but indeed of acting like a welded and effective binomial. To make the short scale with its team-member, to hoist it on a roof, or to project it to help it to cross an obstacle are only some of the possible interactions. Much the co-operative aspect also passes by the voice. Besides via the headset of the console or simply aloud, the communication holds a significant part in the success of a mission. But attention, bus if your team-member can hear you in his helmet, the enemies will be able to also to intend you to speak. Greatest discretion is thus of setting, the highly recommended whispers. Unfortunately, contrary to the version Xbox which will allow the play online thanks to the LIVE, coop PS2 will have inevitably to pass by the local area network or the play out of splitt├ę screen. A light quickly forgotten disappointment once in the part, vis-a-vis with all the wonders installation to make of Splinter Cell Theory Chaos the best episode of the series. Yes, yes, it is only a preview, but on this level, there is no possible doubt, Splinter 3 exceeds its two elder. A performance which you will be able to judge as of March 31 since it is on this date that Sam will explain us the theory of chaos.

Nightmarecast24
03-08-2005, 12:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Terrax213:
I just love how this thread, intended only to show some new screens, so quickly turned into a "ZOMG T3H UB3R 1337 PEEE CEEEE PWNXXXX0RS!!!!!!1111oneoneone" type thread. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just goes to show that there are alot of elietst PC people here that just have to say PC owns everything in every other topic.
This thread is about screenshots and it has indeed turned into a PC owns topic.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

And frankly I am tired of fighting a useless battle with the PC elitests, so I quit defending Xbox, I will just let them yammer on about PC, they wanna yammer on then they can yammer on, but the only people that will be listening is other PC elitest.

I mean you guys should start a support group or better yet a street gang, hell bloods and crips are no match for PC fanboys.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

GZA-LiquidSword
03-08-2005, 12:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nightmarecast24:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Terrax213:
I just love how this thread, intended only to show some new screens, so quickly turned into a "ZOMG T3H UB3R 1337 PEEE CEEEE PWNXXXX0RS!!!!!!1111oneoneone" type thread. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just goes to show that there are alot of elietst PC people here that just have to say PC owns everything in every other topic.
This thread is about screenshots and it has indeed turned into a PC owns topic.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There are just as many people talking about how ****y the PS2 graphics look, how come you're not complaining about that?

Nightmarecast24
03-08-2005, 12:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GZA-LiquidSword:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nightmarecast24:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Terrax213:
I just love how this thread, intended only to show some new screens, so quickly turned into a "ZOMG T3H UB3R 1337 PEEE CEEEE PWNXXXX0RS!!!!!!1111oneoneone" type thread. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just goes to show that there are alot of elietst PC people here that just have to say PC owns everything in every other topic.
This thread is about screenshots and it has indeed turned into a PC owns topic.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There are just as many people talking about how ****y the PS2 graphics look, how come you're not complaining about that? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I am not complaining about it because it's their opinions, see the PC elitest don't know what an opinion is, they preach it like it's a **** fact that PC owns everything, the people killing the PS2 version are expressing their opinions.

Bobthevila
03-08-2005, 12:22 PM
My opinion is that they shoud've the normal maping from this dev sheet..

https://playstation2-linux.com/files/p2lsd/ps2_normalmapping.pdf

anyway heres more(probably seen em though)

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/060/924556_20050302_screen004.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/060/924556_20050302_screen002.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/060/924556_20050302_screen003.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/060/924556_20050302_screen011.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/055/924556_20050225_screen001.jpg

^^^those are old though

Lhorkan
03-08-2005, 12:23 PM
So I think the only way to stop the console war is...

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/images/comics/20050205.jpg

Dangerous_388
03-08-2005, 12:23 PM
NMC i got a question IS SCCT on xbox got better graphics than MGS3. Dont say MGS3 got better graphics than the ps2 scct version. I want to know about xbox

c12l21t70
03-08-2005, 12:24 PM
i have a good pc and a newer ps2! i play both but this game is going on the pc "can u blame me"??

Dangerous_388
03-08-2005, 12:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bobthevila:
My opinion is that they shoud've the normal maping from this dev sheet..

https://playstation2-linux.com/files/p2lsd/ps2_normalmapping.pdf <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They need more money to spend on these linux kits to make normal mapping on ps2. While xbox can do normal mapping without anything extra

Nightmarecast24
03-08-2005, 12:29 PM
But this isn't a console war, it's not a war yet, but if PC fanboys keep shoving their opinions they see as facts in people's faces then it will turn into a war, which is what I want to prevent because these wars are useless and stupid because it's preference vs preference which is an unending war.

Everyone has a preference and when you trash that preference in favor of your own then you are insulting that persons choice, and nobody likes that.

slapnuts96
03-08-2005, 12:29 PM
I can't stand how slow the consoles controls are compared to PC. In the beta( http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif ) I can move the spy very quickly thanks to the mouse. But on PS2 playing SC1 you wait what seems like forever to move the camera around to see. I couldn't imagin playing the MP online with a console. But thats just me. PC rulez

MindBlank_0_o
03-08-2005, 12:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nightmarecast24:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GZA-LiquidSword:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nightmarecast24:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Terrax213:
I just love how this thread, intended only to show some new screens, so quickly turned into a "ZOMG T3H UB3R 1337 PEEE CEEEE PWNXXXX0RS!!!!!!1111oneoneone" type thread. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just goes to show that there are alot of elietst PC people here that just have to say PC owns everything in every other topic.
This thread is about screenshots and it has indeed turned into a PC owns topic.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There are just as many people talking about how ****y the PS2 graphics look, how come you're not complaining about that? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I am not complaining about it because it's their opinions, see the PC elitest don't know what an opinion is, they preach it like it's a **** fact that PC owns everything, the people killing the PS2 version are expressing their opinions. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Pepole are just stating a fact. Nothing to be upset about man.
You Xbox guys shouldn't really complain cause you get big games before PC users do and besides that, when you own a console you don't have to worry about new games not running smoothly or even at all on your Xbox - PC users have to worry about such things, not to mention that you have to constantly keep upgrading your components which takes money and time. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

I couldn't buy a console now that i'm used to the PC, and besides that, it feels kinda weird to hold a controller in your hand when you're used to a mouse and fast movement.
Just think how Counter-Strike would be on the Xbox - see what i'm talking about.

Nightmarecast24
03-08-2005, 12:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dangerous_388:
NMC i got a question IS SCCT on xbox got better graphics than MGS3. Dont say MGS3 got better graphics than the ps2 scct version. I want to know about xbox <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No, MGS 3 does not have better graphics than the Xbox version of SCCT.

Nightmarecast24
03-08-2005, 12:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MindBlank_0_o:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nightmarecast24:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GZA-LiquidSword:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nightmarecast24:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Terrax213:
I just love how this thread, intended only to show some new screens, so quickly turned into a "ZOMG T3H UB3R 1337 PEEE CEEEE PWNXXXX0RS!!!!!!1111oneoneone" type thread. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just goes to show that there are alot of elietst PC people here that just have to say PC owns everything in every other topic.
This thread is about screenshots and it has indeed turned into a PC owns topic.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There are just as many people talking about how ****y the PS2 graphics look, how come you're not complaining about that? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I am not complaining about it because it's their opinions, see the PC elitest don't know what an opinion is, they preach it like it's a **** fact that PC owns everything, the people killing the PS2 version are expressing their opinions. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Pepole are just stating a fact. Nothing to be upset about man.
You Xbox guys shouldn't really complain cause you get big games before PC users do and besides that, when you own a console you don't have to worry about new games not running smoothly or even at all on your Xbox - PC users have to worry about such things, not to mention that you have to constantly keep upgrading your components which takes money and time. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

I couldn't buy a console now that i'm used to the PC, and besides that, it feels kinda weird to hold a controller in your hand when you're used to a mouse and fast movement.
Just think how Counter-Strike would be on the Xbox - see what i'm talking about. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No, im not upset at all, just trying to prevent a PC vs Console war here, we have had enough of those in the past.

Oh and CS is on Xbox, but I hear it's pretty bad.

S.a.S-Akbari
03-08-2005, 12:35 PM
Bah those PS2 screens look awfull :/

GZA-LiquidSword
03-08-2005, 12:35 PM
Id say saying the PS2 version looks like **** is trashing someone's opinion more than saying the PC graphics are superior.

I dont want to argue with you, but I think most of us here that said that the PC version is superior only meant in terms of graphics (which is obvious if you have a great PC) and their PERSONAL preference of using a keyboard (or other joystick). Again, I can't just assume this Nightmarecast, but from your icon it seems that you are getting it on the Xbox and maybe you feel that you don't like that the PC version can look better than the Xbox one? My feeling is that you dont have a problem with the people saying the PS2 version looks crappy because it doesn't affect your version of the game, because the Xbox looks "superior." But when the PC people say it, it's affecting your version of the game because it looks better on a gaming PC and you can't have that.

These are just assumptions so dont come back at me blasting me.

Dangerous_388
03-08-2005, 12:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nightmarecast24:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dangerous_388:
NMC i got a question IS SCCT on xbox got better graphics than MGS3. Dont say MGS3 got better graphics than the ps2 scct version. I want to know about xbox <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No, MGS 3 does not have better graphics than the Xbox version of SCCT. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thankyou http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

pretend3r
03-08-2005, 12:48 PM
oh man.. the ps2 is ugly.. just that screen of morgenholt.


urgh...

Ninj3r
03-08-2005, 12:57 PM
PC fanboys are even worse than Xbox fanboys, I swear (apart from NMC, he shows his opinion using the words "In my opinion")

The PC version looks better, No one can deny it.
But for the love of god, Stop showing this off to console users.

We don't care how much megahurts.. erm, hertz you got.. We don't care what your graphics card is like, And we certainly don't care how you are able to play the game in 1280x1024.


This thread, Was started with love, because as we all know - NMC is like a father to use news-wise http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Stop turning every **** thread into a "omg0rz my PC is ze gonna PWN those graphics hahaha!!!".

For those who feel offended, Good. As I'm pretty much through reading how my gaming preference gets ****ged off at http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Also, Graphics isn't anything. If graphics make a game - Then I'm gonna go outside with a plastic shotgun and show off to you all how I played the best game ever.

GZA-LiquidSword
03-08-2005, 01:00 PM
Why dont you pay attention and realize those are PC screens. I didnt even need to read the rest of your complaint because you couldnt even get that right.

Dangerous_388
03-08-2005, 01:02 PM
There werent any xbox screens NMC posted, he posted pc and ps2 only screens only. ( this post is to let ninj3r know that there werent any xbox screens)

Ninj3r
03-08-2005, 01:03 PM
I'm sure it said Xbox screens just after this thread was started.
Did you edit that NMC?

Also, pc screens on a resolution of 640x512? MMMkay

GZA-LiquidSword
03-08-2005, 01:04 PM
It's been there since I saw the thread.

Ninj3r
03-08-2005, 01:07 PM
If it was, Then my bad.

Zoint
03-08-2005, 01:20 PM
its really REALLY annoying how ppl say that ps2 graphics sucks, it might not be better than xbox or pc but its still the same game. lol btw if a person alrdy said ps2 sucks then you dont need to reply 1 more copy of it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

myee8
03-08-2005, 01:22 PM
Some sexy looking PC screen shots there, what graphics card do you all think it is? Being a PC person, it'd be good to know what to get to get it looking like that.

Ninj3r
03-08-2005, 01:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zoint:
its really REALLY annoying how ppl say that ps2 graphics sucks, it might not be better than xbox or pc but its still the same game. lol btw if a person alrdy said ps2 sucks then you dont need to reply 1 more copy of it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm not saying that, you have the right to state your opinion here.
But the PC fanboys, THEY are annoying.
And I know alot of forum regulars who can't stand it either :/

If you wanna state your opinion, no ones stopping you.. But leave the "is better than" or "PWNS THE" comments out of it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Terrax213
03-08-2005, 01:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zoint:
its really REALLY annoying how ppl say that ps2 graphics sucks, it might not be better than xbox or pc but its still the same game. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif The PS2 version will be missing a couple things here and there in the gameplay as well as heaven forbid not as good graphics as the PC or Xbox, but overall, you won't go wrong buying SC:CT no matter what system you get it on. It's amazing how people go and bash "lesser" platforms than theirs based solely on graphical quality. The more amazing thing is, they seem to get some form of gratification or feeling of accomplishment in doing so. Last I checked, NMC didn't make this thread a poll, showing the screens, then asking for votes on which looks better than the other. They're new screens of the game in general that he found (which he has had a knack for doing over the past several months http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif ) and is kind enough to share them with the rest of us.

Ninj3r
03-08-2005, 01:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Terrax213:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zoint:
its really REALLY annoying how ppl say that ps2 graphics sucks, it might not be better than xbox or pc_ but its still the same game._ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif The PS2 version will be missing a couple things here and there in the gameplay as well as heaven forbid not as good graphics as the PC or Xbox, but overall, you won't go wrong buying SC:CT no matter what system you get it on. It's amazing how people go and bash "lesser" platforms than theirs based solely on graphical quality. The more amazing thing is, they seem to get some form of gratification or feeling of accomplishment in doing so. Last I checked, NMC didn't make this thread a poll, showing the screens, then asking for votes on which looks better than the other. They're new screens of the game in general that he found (which he has had a knack for doing over the past several months http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif ) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Amen, Or as you would say; QF(F)E!

HorTyS
03-08-2005, 01:53 PM
what i think is funny is how if someone got this game on ps2 and didn't know what it looks like on XBOX or pc, they'd think these were the best graphics ever. i can't imagine playing this game with anything less than xbox graphics, especially now that i've played the xbox demo, having to downgrade to ps2 would be the worst. plus, i don't think i'd like the controls on the ps2 controller, this game was made for the xbox contoller S.

Jackal56o
03-08-2005, 02:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> OMFG The PS2 version looks like s***!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

thank you, technical school drop out..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

its not always about the grafix, and by the way.... those are foriegn screens.

http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/695/695602/imgs_1.html?fromint=1

these are the REAL ps2 screens.....

Jackal56o
03-08-2005, 02:18 PM
besides, i'm gonna get it for ps2 anyway. and there is nothing any of u can say to change my mind. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Nightmarecast24
03-08-2005, 02:29 PM
Now, I will speak about PS2 graphics for a moment.
Now I do not bash the graphics persay, but I respond horribly to them only because what was said about them from Ubisoft and Gamespot.

Now if those two had not said a word then I would take it as natural PS2 graphics, but Ubi did state it would be the best looking PS2 game when in fact these particular pics prove otherwise, like I said and im sure anyone else who has played MGS 3 will say they indeed look better than these particular pics, now I will not doubt Ubi until I see what the final cut looks like, but judging from these pics, they are not on par with MGS 3.

Gamespot said that in some parts of the PS2 version look better than Xbox and PC, well I think that is a flat out lie, I mean how can it?
It is impossible because Ubi has squeezed the life out of the Xbox and PS2 and saying something like that would mean the PS2 is actually as powerful as Xbox and we all know about that.

So I will not go there, but I think Gamespot is just trying to boost the PS2 players spirits I guess, I mean think about it, pushing the Xbox to the limit, pushing the PS2 to the limit, the limit of the Xbox far outweighs the PS2 but Gamespot says PS2's version looks better in some instances?
I do not think so.

So if you ever seen me bashing PS2's graphics, you now know why.

Dangerous_388
03-08-2005, 02:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nightmarecast24:
Now, I will speak about PS2 graphics for a moment.
Now I do not bash the graphics persay, but I respond horribly to them only because what was said about them from Ubisoft and Gamespot.

Now if those two had not said a word then I would take it as natural PS2 graphics, but Ubi did state it would be the best looking PS2 game when in fact these particular pics prove otherwise, like I said and im sure anyone else who has played MGS 3 will say they indeed look better than these particular pics, now I will not doubt Ubi until I see what the final cut looks like, but judging from these pics, they are not on par with MGS 3.

Gamespot said that in some parts of the PS2 version look better than Xbox and PC, well I think that is a flat out lie, I mean how can it?
It is impossible because Ubi has squeezed the life out of the Xbox and PS2 and saying something like that would mean the PS2 is actually as powerful as Xbox and we all know about that.

So I will not go there, but I think Gamespot is just trying to boost the PS2 players spirits I guess, I mean think about it, pushing the Xbox to the limit, pushing the PS2 to the limit, the limit of the Xbox far outweighs the PS2 but Gamespot says PS2's version looks better in some instances?
I do not think so.

So if you ever seen me bashing PS2's graphics, you now know why. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ubi said the same thing in one of the previews on pandora tomorrow that ps2 got same graphics like xbox. They are total pS fanboys

Jackal56o
03-08-2005, 02:39 PM
what i want to know is why pc and xbox fanboys can't just keep their comments to themselves. all this negative feedback makes us ps2ers feel bad, of at least some do.

i want to make one thing clear......
PS2 and GAMECUBE PLAYERS ARE GAMERS TOO! WE ALL PLAN ON BUYING AND PLAYING THE SAME GAME, SO DOES IT REALLY MATTER WHAT U PLAY IT ON?

NO!!!!!!!!! NOW ALL U FANBOYS STFU ALREADY!

*takes a deep breath* wow, i almost lost my temper there.....

DarKA55ASSIN
03-08-2005, 02:44 PM
ps2 and gamecube sucks! lol na jk.....but for sc3 it looks pretty ****,ffs look at resi evil on gcube,those were amazing graphics and look at sc3 on the gcube,piece of **** and well ps2 never really looked amazing,it looked good enough tho

Ninj3r
03-08-2005, 02:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nightmarecast24:
Now, I will speak about PS2 graphics for a moment.
Now I do not bash the graphics persay, but I respond horribly to them only because what was said about them from Ubisoft and Gamespot.

Now if those two had not said a word then I would take it as natural PS2 graphics, but Ubi did state it would be the best looking PS2 game when in fact these particular pics prove otherwise, like I said and im sure anyone else who has played MGS 3 will say they indeed look better than these particular pics, now I will not doubt Ubi until I see what the final cut looks like, but judging from these pics, they are not on par with MGS 3.

Gamespot said that in some parts of the PS2 version look better than Xbox and PC, well I think that is a flat out lie, I mean how can it?
It is impossible because Ubi has squeezed the life out of the Xbox and PS2 and saying something like that would mean the PS2 is actually as powerful as Xbox and we all know about that.

So I will not go there, but I think Gamespot is just trying to boost the PS2 players spirits I guess, I mean think about it, pushing the Xbox to the limit, pushing the PS2 to the limit, the limit of the Xbox far outweighs the PS2 but Gamespot says PS2's version looks better in some instances?
I do not think so.

So if you ever seen me bashing PS2's graphics, you now know why. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I found that the graphics in screenshots don't represent the graphics when you actually see them in motion.
I am pretty much sure the graphics will look alot better when you see them moving as well, Just like you said once too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Nightmarecast24
03-08-2005, 02:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ninj3r:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nightmarecast24:
Now, I will speak about PS2 graphics for a moment.
Now I do not bash the graphics persay, but I respond horribly to them only because what was said about them from Ubisoft and Gamespot.

Now if those two had not said a word then I would take it as natural PS2 graphics, but Ubi did state it would be the best looking PS2 game when in fact these particular pics prove otherwise, like I said and im sure anyone else who has played MGS 3 will say they indeed look better than these particular pics, now I will not doubt Ubi until I see what the final cut looks like, but judging from these pics, they are not on par with MGS 3.

Gamespot said that in some parts of the PS2 version look better than Xbox and PC, well I think that is a flat out lie, I mean how can it?
It is impossible because Ubi has squeezed the life out of the Xbox and PS2 and saying something like that would mean the PS2 is actually as powerful as Xbox and we all know about that.

So I will not go there, but I think Gamespot is just trying to boost the PS2 players spirits I guess, I mean think about it, pushing the Xbox to the limit, pushing the PS2 to the limit, the limit of the Xbox far outweighs the PS2 but Gamespot says PS2's version looks better in some instances?
I do not think so.

So if you ever seen me bashing PS2's graphics, you now know why. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I found that the graphics in screenshots don't represent the graphics when you actually see them in motion.
I am pretty much sure the graphics will look alot better when you see them moving as well, Just like you said once too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Which also brings to mind as to why hasn't Ubi released ANY video of SCCT on PS2? I mean ffs we have Ngage footage, so why not PS2 and GC, I am sure they want to see what their versions look like too.

Bobthevila
03-08-2005, 03:25 PM
what about the one on ps2 tech vid on ign?

Nightmarecast24
03-08-2005, 03:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bobthevila:
what about the one on ps2 tech vid on ign? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That's a tech video, not really a gameplay video, I mean Xbox has tech videos up the yin yang, hell I may even buy the PS2 or GC version just to support Ubi a bit more on this but I wanna see what I may be getting ya know?
So yeah the tech vid is there but it's extremely old, we see new Xbox footage almost daily, I wanna see the rest.

Omega_224
03-08-2005, 03:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DarKA55ASSIN:
ps2 and gamecube sucks! lol na jk.....but for sc3 it looks pretty ****,ffs look at resi evil on gcube,those were amazing graphics and look at sc3 on the gcube,piece of **** and well ps2 never really looked amazing,it looked good enough tho <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


....You're not helping.

Leprechaun9
03-08-2005, 04:21 PM
Wow, I'm getting this for PS2, but I must admit those are bad. But, it doesn't represent PS2's graphics at all; I'm not some messed up "graphics make the game" person but I must say, the PS2 can do better then that.

Also, you PC fanboy's are pethetic. So I have a PS2, it requires less maintance and less money then a PC. You have better graphics but the same gameplay... whoop-dy-doo. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I'm going to go play some San Andreas now.

Nightmarecast24
03-08-2005, 04:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Leprechaun9:
Wow, I'm getting this for PS2, but I must admit those are bad. But, it doesn't represent PS2's graphics at all; I'm not some messed up "graphics make the game" person but I must say, the PS2 can do better then that.

Also, you PC fanboy's are pethetic. So I have a PS2, it requires less maintance and less money then a PC. You have better graphics but the same gameplay... whoop-dy-doo. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I'm going to go play some San Andreas now. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You probably should not have said that, but we'll see what happens. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Omega_224
03-08-2005, 04:30 PM
If all the PS2 players got an Xbox, there wouldn't be any problems. You say you have a PS2. And it may not have as good graphics as PC, but it's less maintenance and more relaxation (relaxation included because....just because), right? Xbox is also less maintenance and more relaxation....WITH the awesome graphics.


I realize I'm the one not helping now, but it's so simple.


Commence flaming.

mortified_dodo
03-08-2005, 04:39 PM
I hate how PC fanboys make insulting Xboxers easier by lumping them together with the other two consoles. To them it's the PC versus the consoles. WTF? There is a WAY smaller gap in graphical quality between the Xbox and PC versions compared to Xbox and Ps2 versions. Hell, the Xbox and PC versions are using the same engine! The Ps2 and GC versions use a different engine altogether! Besides high res on PC that is impossible on Xbox, they look identical in comparison screens.
But, no, the PC players insult us mindlessy, and they're lazy too. They can't even come up with two arguements, one for Ps2 and GC (which use the same engine and have identical graphics to each other), and one for the Xbox. They're even more stupid, because the Xbox has nearly identical graphics to the PC! You guys make me sick sometimes. When a Xbox game has high-end PC quality graphics on a 4 year old console (mind you, not quite as good as the same game on PC, but better than most games on PC) you can't admit it, you just flame because you're in denial that you spend wads of cash to upgrade your "rig" when any old sap off the street can spend 200 bucks and get something that's **** near as good.

hkassassin47
03-08-2005, 04:45 PM
jesus, this whole thread was spam and flaming http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1241.gif

mortified_dodo
03-08-2005, 04:54 PM
http://img231.exs.cx/img231/7968/lockpick2dg.jpg
Why does the health meter show up when you're lock-picking on ps2?

SplinterCell_37
03-08-2005, 05:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MindBlank_0_o:
Man, SCCT looks pretty good even on the old PS2 video chip... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

YEAH!!!!!! it looks full-on AMAZING! even ps2 looks REALLY impressive! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Omega_224:
If all the PS2 players got an Xbox, there wouldn't be any problems. You say you have a PS2. And it may not have as good graphics as PC, but it's less maintenance and more relaxation (relaxation included because....just because), right? Xbox is also less maintenance and more relaxation....WITH the awesome graphics. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

admittedly, i dont mean to join sides in the console war, but...couldnta said it better http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

e_con
03-08-2005, 05:16 PM
Horrible ps2 screens. The PC looks SUPRISINGLY good. They look better than ever before. Wish i had a pc.

e_con
03-08-2005, 05:27 PM
And NMC24, enev you have seen the vedio at IGN. Its called the official trailer. And there was gameplay footage. Why are you bashing the ps2 because of the pics, and the vedio clear shows you that the graphics are the best on ps2. Go watch it right now and tell me thats not impressive. These pics are lying.

mikeiron0404
03-08-2005, 05:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Now, I will speak about PS2 graphics for a moment.
Now I do not bash the graphics persay, but I respond horribly to them only because what was said about them from Ubisoft and Gamespot.

Now if those two had not said a word then I would take it as natural PS2 graphics, but Ubi did state it would be the best looking PS2 game when in fact these particular pics prove otherwise, like I said and im sure anyone else who has played MGS 3 will say they indeed look better than these particular pics, now I will not doubt Ubi until I see what the final cut looks like, but judging from these pics, they are not on par with MGS 3.

Gamespot said that in some parts of the PS2 version look better than Xbox and PC, well I think that is a flat out lie, I mean how can it?
It is impossible because Ubi has squeezed the life out of the Xbox and PS2 and saying something like that would mean the PS2 is actually as powerful as Xbox and we all know about that.

So I will not go there, but I think Gamespot is just trying to boost the PS2 players spirits I guess, I mean think about it, pushing the Xbox to the limit, pushing the PS2 to the limit, the limit of the Xbox far outweighs the PS2 but Gamespot says PS2's version looks better in some instances?
I do not think so.

So if you ever seen me bashing PS2's graphics, you now know why.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, to be fair, MGS3 had lots of (very short) load times and small, disconnected areas. When I say disconnected, I mean that if you leave a body where a guard can find it, and then run into the next area, then you won't have to worry about it.

Nightmarecast24
03-08-2005, 05:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by e_con:
And NMC24, enev you have seen the vedio at IGN. Its called the official trailer. And there was gameplay footage. Why are you bashing the ps2 because of the pics, and the vedio clear shows you that the graphics are the best on ps2. Go watch it right now and tell me thats not impressive. These pics are lying. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Every single trailer made has been of Xbox Footage.

e_con
03-08-2005, 06:12 PM
http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/580/580178/splintercell3_011305_02_wmvlow.wmv?wu=http%3A%2F%2 Fmedia.ps2.ign.com%2Fmedia%2F695%2F695602%2Fvid_10 24302.html%3Fmu%3D%3CURL%2F%3E

black ops freak
03-08-2005, 06:23 PM
sweet pics. and I agree that you can't lump consoles like the ps2, xbox and gamecube in the same group. We all should just accept that the PC has the best graphics, followed by the xbox, whose graphics are still pretty darn nice. Next comes the ps2, whose creators really should have and could have made MUCH better, and then there's the gamecube, which, in all honesty, I don't understand why anyone would buy it. (is it it's small size?) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Nightmarecast24
03-08-2005, 06:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by e_con:
http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/580/580178/splintercell3_011305_02_wmvlow.wmv?wu=http%3A%2F%2 Fmedia.ps2.ign.com%2Fmedia%2F695%2F695602%2Fvid_10 24302.html%3Fmu%3D%3CURL%2F%3E <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That's not a trailer, that is the PS2 Dev Diary.
And the footage there doesn't impress me one bit.

ChaosTheory13
03-08-2005, 06:59 PM
ok 4 pages already...****.

anyways the ps2 version of sc always makes sc look bad. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

mikeiron0404
03-08-2005, 07:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> ok 4 pages already...****.

anyways the ps2 version of sc always makes sc look bad.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you had actually read the whole 4 pages, you would've known that this has already been said many, many times. Oh, and NMC, I think the Dev's were talking about the bamboo when they said the PS2 sometimes looks better than the Xbox. which, admitidaly, is true for that part.

Nightmarecast24
03-08-2005, 07:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mikeiron0404:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> ok 4 pages already...****.

anyways the ps2 version of sc always makes sc look bad.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you had actually read the whole 4 pages, you would've known that this has already been said many, many times. Oh, and NMC, I think the Dev's were talking about the bamboo when they said the PS2 sometimes looks better than the Xbox. which, admitidaly, is true for that part. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
But I don't remember seeing any bamboo for Xbox, actually I have not seen any of the Japanese level except for that clip on the training video "Equipement 1", I highly doubt anything on PS2 looks better and if it does I will question the Ubi's Xbox Team as of why.

mikeiron0404
03-08-2005, 07:15 PM
Xbox (http://www.splintercell.com/us/splintercellchaostheory/screenshots.php?page=1)
First one.

PS2 (http://www.splintercell.com/us/splintercellchaostheory/screenshots-ps2.php)
Third one or last is the best example.

Jackal56o
03-08-2005, 07:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/695/695602/vid_1024302.html?mu=http%3A%2F%2Fxfersf02.ign.com% 2F%5E2077004406%2Fmovies%2Fstreamingmovies.ign.com %2Fdocroot%2Fps2%2Farticle%2F580%2F580178%2Fsplint ercell3_011305_02_wmvlow.wmv%3Fposition%3Dfront <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

holy cr*p, i forgot about that. this totally changes my look at all u xbox fanboys opinions. To me, those grafix, and those sexy water effects, are the best dam* thing to hit ps2 since mgs3! all u xbox fanboys can say what u want now, because that movie showed me exactly what the ps2 version of chaos theroy will be like, and it'll be like the xbox version..... but with better controls. Jackal out.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Nightmarecast24
03-08-2005, 07:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jackal56o:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/695/695602/vid_1024302.html?mu=http%3A%2F%2Fxfersf02.ign.com% 2F%5E2077004406%2Fmovies%2Fstreamingmovies.ign.com %2Fdocroot%2Fps2%2Farticle%2F580%2F580178%2Fsplint ercell3_011305_02_wmvlow.wmv%3Fposition%3Dfront <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

holy cr*p, i forgot about that. this totally changes my look at all u xbox fanboys opinions. To me, those grafix, and those sexy water effects, are the best dam* thing to hit ps2 since mgs3! all u xbox fanboys can say what u want now, because that movie showed me exactly what the ps2 version of chaos theroy will be like, and it'll be like the xbox version..... but with better controls. Jackal out.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
ARE YOU $%#^ing SERIOUS!!!!!!?
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
You should write joke books. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Nightmarecast24
03-08-2005, 07:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mikeiron0404:
http://www.splintercell.com/us/splintercellchaostheory/screenshots.php?page=1
First one.

http://www.splintercell.com/us/splintercellchaostheory/screenshots-ps2.php
Third one or last is the best example. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Actually this is a bad example, that pic used for Xbox was produced way back in August 2004.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Omega_224
03-08-2005, 07:24 PM
Heh heh...heh. That's funny. PS2....Same....As Xbox...*Snickers*....

SiLeNT-KiLLa134
03-08-2005, 07:34 PM
Good lord that morganholt pic looks horrendous.. wow thats bad

trakslacker
03-08-2005, 07:57 PM
I generally try to stay out of these little arguments and don't even like to read these threads, however I was curious about the new PS2 screens, as I own a PS2. After reading through all 4.5 pages of garbage that is this thread(there have been roughly 1/2 page of useful posts), all I have to say is, Xbox owners, shut the hell up.

To whichever imbecile said the simplest solution is for all PS2 owners buy an Xbox, you suck at life and should just give up. There are an infinite number of reasons why this is just stupid to even say, so i will not even go into it.
To all of the "OMG teh PS2 grafix suxxorrs to teh m4x!" people, I have a few things to say.

1. Yes the PS2 has less graphical processing power than the Xbox or PC. No one debates this, and everyone understands that the PS2 version of SC:CT cannot and will not match the textures and image quality of the Xbox or PC. We don't need to hear you say it again.

2. The PS2 screens in the initial post are of a poor quality. That is evident. However, having seen several other PS2 screens previously, I am confident the graphics in the final version will be far superior to these screenshots. We'll find out in 3 weeks.

3. If you fanboys really want to state your opinion about the graphics of any system, don't be an *** and bash another console, just say something like, "Hmm, these PS2 screens don't look as good as I would have hoped" or "Hey, I really like the look of those Xbox screens".

To everyone that has the ability to state their opinions in a sensible and constructive manner, carry on, as you are adding valuable information to this community. To the 12-year old fanoys, please refrain from continually posting the useless blather that you attempt(and fail) to string together into a coherent thought.

Flame on if you really see the need, but this fanboy **** has to stop. This game will be awesome and very fun to play no matter which version you buy. We've established which versions will be of a higher graphical quality than others, so get over it. Thanks.

e_con
03-08-2005, 07:57 PM
What, i didnt say the ps2 looks the same as the xbox, its far from it. I spit in your face.



jk.

sb85
03-08-2005, 08:18 PM
pc version....frikkin awesome grphics
xbox version....little less freakin awesome..but awesome none the less..

ps2...bwah bwah ahahaha hahaha...*snort* hahahehehaha

trakslacker
03-08-2005, 08:50 PM
sb85, as I said above, it's people exactly like you that make me hate visiting these forums. *******....

sb85
03-08-2005, 09:09 PM
well i wasnt flamin the ps2 version...my point is..if it dun look good..u dont enjoy it
i had a gf3..and doom3 suked on it..so i didnt play the game...now i got a 6800..now its worth playin the game..
take a look at the pc/ps2 scrnshots..geez..even if i didnt post this..ppl wuld b like..ew

mortified_dodo
03-08-2005, 09:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by trakslacker:
I generally try to stay out of these little arguments and don't even like to read these threads, however I was curious about the new PS2 screens, as I own a PS2. After reading through all 4.5 pages of garbage that is this thread(there have been roughly 1/2 page of useful posts), all I have to say is, Xbox owners, shut the hell up.

To whichever imbecile said the simplest solution is for all PS2 owners buy an Xbox, you suck at life and should just give up. There are an infinite number of reasons why this is just stupid to even say, so i will not even go into it.
To all of the "OMG teh PS2 grafix suxxorrs to teh m4x!" people, I have a few things to say.

1. Yes the PS2 has less graphical processing power than the Xbox or PC. No one debates this, and everyone understands that the PS2 version of SC:CT cannot and will not match the textures and image quality of the Xbox or PC. We don't need to hear you say it again.

2. The PS2 screens in the initial post are of a poor quality. That is evident. However, having seen several other PS2 screens previously, I am confident the graphics in the final version will be far superior to these screenshots. We'll find out in 3 weeks.

3. If you fanboys really want to state your opinion about the graphics of any system, don't be an *** and bash another console, just say something like, "Hmm, these PS2 screens don't look as good as I would have hoped" or "Hey, I really like the look of those Xbox screens".

To everyone that has the ability to state their opinions in a sensible and constructive manner, carry on, as you are adding valuable information to this community. To the 12-year old fanoys, please refrain from continually posting the useless blather that you attempt(and fail) to string together into a coherent thought.

Flame on if you really see the need, but this fanboy **** has to stop. This game will be awesome and very fun to play no matter which version you buy. We've established which versions will be of a higher graphical quality than others, so get over it. Thanks. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Somewhat true, but I have to say that 1/2 of your post reeked of ***, oh, sorry, ignorance. I'm sure you think that that puddle of gray matter between your ears is far superior to that of everyone else who posted in this thread. Were you sure to use spell-checker and edit your post 20 times to make sure you sounded really smart and older than you really are? Did you use a thesaurus to make sure you used big words? Congratulations, you've made a valiant effort to sound mature. You don't need to be the **** school councillor telling these people to get a life. Maybe it's that you really care too much about stranger's lives. They can do whatever they want, most of them probably live in the US, and last time I checked that was a free country. Get back to your life, and I'll leave and get back to mine.

germ1234
03-08-2005, 09:17 PM
not only was that his opinion...it was also fact

the pc is indeed better looking than xbox..the xbox is indeed better looking than pc.

why is it that people always take offense to truth?

i mean i'm not saying ps2 or xbox sucks...nor am i supporting pc

sometimes you need to just accept it...don't deny it until falseness becomes truth.

it's like growing up with parents that teach you racism is good...how will he help himself? try to accept a truth instead of letting your bias blind you

Gangxta123
03-08-2005, 09:19 PM
I probably missed alot by skipping 4 pages of this thread cuz all i did is read the first page.....But oh well.......Here it goes......**** am I glad i am getting scct for my pc and not for my ps2 cuz the graphics look horrible for ps2 in ct and pc and xbox look great....Why does ps2 have to have the *****y graphics

SpazM.A.D.
03-08-2005, 09:22 PM
Cause the Ps2 is ACIENT(like ur mom) but PC is the only way to go!

Gangxta123
03-08-2005, 09:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SpazM.A.D.:
Cause the Ps2 is ACIENT(like ur mom) but PC is the only way to go! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah but i would think with my new ps2 the newer one they would make the ps2 better graphic wise....Cuz instead of the huge tall ps2 i got the new well kinda new ps2 the smaller one but had it since it came to stores but w/e i would have thought that it would loook better with the new ps2 instead of the old ps2.....But i guess its all the same mmmbah

germ1234
03-08-2005, 09:28 PM
it's an old system...got the worst processing power of all the other consoles

i guess i'm one of those who can't enjoy anything unless i see and play in the full potential of what it can look like. that is why i go for pc.

anything less to me is unacceptable. plus i like mouse aiming.

Total.Ck_
03-08-2005, 10:17 PM
I find it pretty ironic how the xbox users are whining about the pc users bashing them, yet bashing the ps2 users at the same time. Hypocrites. It can be assured that most of the pro-PC users in this thread don't make up the majority of the PC community, so don't be so quick to judge.

As for the whole Xbox vs. PC fiasco, it all comes down to personal preference. I'm suprised this is so hard for some people to understand.

trakslacker
03-08-2005, 10:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mortified_dodo:
Somewhat true, but I have to say that 1/2 of _your_ post reeked of ***, oh, sorry, ignorance. I'm sure you think that that puddle of gray matter between your ears is far superior to that of everyone else who posted in this thread. Were you sure to use spell-checker and edit your post 20 times to make sure you sounded really smart and older than you really are? Did you use a thesaurus to make sure you used big words? Congratulations, you've made a valiant effort to sound mature. You don't need to be the **** school councillor telling these people to get a life. Maybe it's that you really care too much about stranger's lives. They can do whatever they want, most of them probably live in the US, and last time I checked that was a free country. Get back to _your life_, and I'll leave and get back to mine. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ROFL. I'm gonna go ahead and address each of your points below.

Somewhat true, but I have to say that 1/2 of _your_ post reeked of ***, oh, sorry, ignorance.

- Righto. my post reaked of buttocks(lang. filter), as you say. Spectacular way to start off a post. And actually I believe my post was fairly lucid and coherent, but you are always entitled to your opinion.

I'm sure you think that that puddle of gray matter between your ears is far superior to that of everyone else who posted in this thread. Were you sure to use spell-checker and edit your post 20 times to make sure you sounded really smart and older than you really are? Did you use a thesaurus to make sure you used big words? Congratulations, you've made a valiant effort to sound mature.

- I am certainly not trying to put myself above anyone or make myself sound superior in any way. No I have not edited my post nor did I use a spell-check or thesaurus. I don't know what big words you speak of. I actually went back and look, and the largest words I found were "infinite", "community", "information", "processing", and "constructive". If these words are too big, then I feel sorry for you. I'm 21 years old, and see no reason why I should attempt to "act" older than I am. I'm intelligent, as are most people here, but I am certainly not out on a mission to prove that to you or anyone else. Hopefully my words can speak for themselves.

You don't need to be the **** school councillor telling these people to get a life. Maybe it's that you really care too much about stranger's lives. They can do whatever they want, most of them probably live in the US, and last time I checked that was a free country.

- I'm not telling anyone to get a life, just asking everyone on the forums to express their opinions about the quality of SCCT on different platforms and of the platforms themselves in a polite manner. I do not care a thing about the lives of anyone on these forums, however I do care the ability of everyone on these forums to interact in a civil manner so that the community can remain productive and informative. This is most certainly a free country, and is the greatest country in the world(IMHO) because of this.

Get back to _your life_, and I'll leave and get back to mine.

- That's probably the best for you.

ShadowStealth_7
03-08-2005, 11:05 PM
Well my guess is the shots haven't been updated because I've seen better ones. You should check out the date on those ones.

Nightmarecast24
03-09-2005, 03:30 AM
http://www.rmjv.net/ne/chaos16big.jpg
http://www.rmjv.net/ne/chaos17big.jpg
http://www.rmjv.net/ne/chaos18big.jpg
http://www.rmjv.net/ne/chaos19big.jpg
http://www.rmjv.net/ne/chaos20big.jpg
http://www.rmjv.net/ne/chaos21big.jpg
http://www.rmjv.net/ne/chaos22big.jpg
http://www.rmjv.net/ne/chaos23big.jpg
http://www.rmjv.net/ne/chaos24big.jpg

sanius
03-09-2005, 04:22 AM
oh..xbox is lookin' pretty good.

PS2 looks ok, i guess. I don't really care for it, at all. I don't really see any shadows, and textures look like poopy.

but eh, getting it for the pc anyway. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

FVipe
03-09-2005, 09:33 AM
Fanboys... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Is it hard to just enjoy the game like a true fan in whatever console you buy it without comming to the forums and trying to make people with other consoles feel they're not getting a good version??

JUST SHUT THE **** UP with these arguments already!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

I love my XBOX, and I'm getting SCCT for that console, but once, I only had the ps2, so I can relate to the ps2-only people.

PS: can't wait for separate SCCT forums.

Majic_Mijit
03-09-2005, 10:08 AM
Quick question, does anyone know how to perform the move shown in the first Xbox screen posted? I can't seem to do it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Mp1 Killer
03-09-2005, 10:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GZA-LiquidSword:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Serial_Jon:
Those "PS2" screens are terrible... they look like they're off the GCN version... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You do know that the GCN is more powereful hardware, right? I said this in another thread, I dont know why the GCN version should look much worse than the Xbox version, as long as developers take the time to make a good port. The GCN has much more POTENTIAL to look better than the PS2, but that doesnt mean it will look better.

Of course Im getting it on the PC because they all look bad next to what you can do on the PC, but I just dont understand why the GC has such a bad rap with games like Resident Evil 4 outshining everything graphicswise on the PS2.

BTW, nice pics, thanks for posting them. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I agree. Also I don't understand why online play isn't ever in GCN games. This may be unknown to others but, IT CAN GO ONLINE! The companies are just lazy and don't make the games great for GCN. The games for GCN that are usually put to their full potential are the Nintendo made games.

teddaman2
03-09-2005, 12:39 PM
those screens just can't compete to the xbox and pc screens.

Bobthevila
03-09-2005, 12:52 PM
does geo textures stick out like 3d?

SkitzoJester
03-09-2005, 12:52 PM
Truth be told, if the above shots were the xbox screenshots, they're lacking. I had hoped for better. They look more like PS2 shots. (Just an opinion, PS2 fanboys you best not jump me. -_-)

Dangerous_388
03-09-2005, 12:54 PM
The screens above are really old xbox built, these are the screens from E3 i think and they still look better than ps2's latest screens

SkitzoJester
03-09-2005, 12:57 PM
Graci for the glint of hope, Dangerous.

Dangerous_388
03-09-2005, 01:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SkitzoJester:
Graci for the glint of hope , Dangerous. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What does it mean

SkitzoJester
03-09-2005, 01:00 PM
Thanks, in Italian

Dangerous_388
03-09-2005, 01:04 PM
Ok thanx

Alex_HS
03-09-2005, 01:35 PM
The pics above may be xbox graphics but they are definetly not being processed thru a xbox, the resolution seems too high and the missing ugly jagged edges(/) sugests that anti aliasing is being used.
On the matter of platforms i believe everyone should give up on consoles and go with the PC, because that way we would all benefit from up to date technology and more high quality games would be developed and released. The wasted time developing this game for the consoles should have been spent making the PC version even better and with more levels. The high sales numbers of console games are standing in the way of great and inovative PC games, just think about how much precious development time is spent with mediocre games for the consoles http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

hkassassin47
03-09-2005, 01:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alex_HS:
The pics above may be xbox graphics but they are definetly not being processed thru a xbox, the resolution seems too high and the missing ugly jagged edges(/) sugests that anti aliasing is being used.
On the matter of platforms i believe everyone should give up on consoles and go with the PC, because that way we would all benefit from up to date technology and more high quality games would be developed and released. The wasted time developing this game for the consoles should have been spent making the PC version even better and with more levels. The high sales numbers of console games are standing in the way of great and inovative PC games, just think about how much precious development time is spent with mediocre games for the consoles http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif
i hoping u were just teasing there, as u are about to be spammed

ShadowStealth_7
03-09-2005, 06:55 PM
Ok let me put my two since in now I've seen the Xbox and I've seen the PS2 versions they both look good I've also seen the PS2 video preview on IGN.com and the preview video looks great for the PS2 version. It may not be excally like the Xbox or PC but it looks pretty good. Again about those PS2 screenshots in my opinon they don't look updated because as I said I've seen better and that includes the preview video for the PS2 version.Lets also say I've had experinces with game sites where Ive looked at new games that come out and there not always acure it and when they come out they turn out to be pretty good so will see how the game is when it comes out.But that's just me.

P.S Sam Infiltrates stores in three weeks

mortified_dodo
03-09-2005, 07:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alex_HS:
The pics above may be xbox graphics but they are definetly not being processed thru a xbox, the resolution seems too high and the missing ugly jagged edges(/) sugests that anti aliasing is being used.
On the matter of platforms i believe everyone should give up on consoles and go with the PC, because that way we would all benefit from up to date technology and more high quality games would be developed and released. The wasted time developing this game for the consoles should have been spent making the PC version even better and with more levels. The high sales numbers of console games are standing in the way of great and inovative PC games, just think about how much precious development time is spent with mediocre games for the consoles http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are such a... something I fail to find a word to describe. Your self-righteousness is beyond words. Your whole post just baffles my mind. I cannot believe that you would be so much of a fanboyish ***** to say that the console versions are "wasted time". You think you're the only one that matters. "It should have been spent making the PC version even better" I am so pissed off with you for saying this, I won't even flame, I'll leave that for others. "Consoles are standing in the way of great PC games" Now on this point you are truly ignorant. I hate to say it, but consoles are where gaming is at. Ask any major console maker. The PC is but a lab rat to test new technologies to be used and become successful and make $$$$$ in the next-gen of gaming platforms. Microsoft is taking all the innovations made in IBM computers and ATI cards, improving on them, and releasing them in what will be a finished product (Xenon, Xbox Next) that will be more powerful than any PC released for the next three years. And, Sony and IBM's Cell processor for Ps3 will outlast PC processors for even longer than that! Video game development is a business, and that means GD's make games for consoles. Sorry to burst your bubble. Again, "Mediocre games made for consoles" This just says that you are saying Chaos Theory is a mediocre game, when it is the best game ever made on Xbox and PC. "The pics above may be xbox graphics but they are definetly not being processed thru a xbox, the resolution seems too high and the missing ugly jagged edges(/) sugests that anti aliasing is being used." Wrong again pal, those are rendered through an Xbox, and that will be exacly what the resolution looks like when I pick up my Xbox Chaos Theory on March 31st. No Anti-Aliasing, but still no jaggies! That Xbox thing is actually a pretty capable machine! Admit it, the Xbox graphics actually look ok when placed side by side with PC! You know, just to make you happy, why don't M$, Sony, and Nintendo just give up on consoles, and lose millions of dollars? I'm sure they wouldn't care, because it's great news that PC games would prosper. Dream on.

germ1234
03-09-2005, 07:53 PM
one of the great things found in splinter cell is soft shadows...this is where the shadows are not hard edged like doom 3 for example. looks really great especially when you cast it over a character. very realisitc.

f16cxv
03-09-2005, 08:00 PM
ok, this is official US UBI SC.com pics
XBOX (http://www.splintercell.com/us/splintercellchaostheory/screenshots.php)
PS2 (http://www.splintercell.com/us/splintercellchaostheory/screenshots-ps2.php)
PC (http://www.splintercell.com/us/splintercellchaostheory/screenshots-pc.php)

I think that every one's building up a lot of fuss over year a old build of the game...

Nightmarecast24
03-09-2005, 08:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by f16cxv:
ok, this is official US UBI SC.com pics
http://www.splintercell.com/us/splintercellchaostheory/screenshots.php
http://www.splintercell.com/us/splintercellchaostheory/screenshots-ps2.php
http://www.splintercell.com/us/splintercellchaostheory/screenshots-pc.php

I think that every one's building up a lot of fuss over year a old build of the game... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That is all old ****, Ubi never updates it's website correctly. There are current build pics out there and they still have these very early build pics, makes me wonder what the webmasters are doing with the site. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

ChaosTheory13
03-09-2005, 08:21 PM
isnt this thread suppose to be over now. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

the_sextein
03-09-2005, 10:50 PM
It's hard to read a thread like this and not rip into somebody but I'm not going to be like that. I would like to point out though that many people blow off things that other people consider a big deal. For example small details make a huge differance to me. I would be labled a PC fanboy if I actually stated how I feel about those PS2 screens or any console screen for any game.

I own a PS2 for Final Fantasy and early releases of the GTA series. I own a Gamecube for the Resident evil series and my main gaming machine is a very fast computer. Once you play at a certain level of detail you can't help but look down on low res images without AA or AF. PC users may seem stuck up or needing to constantly justify their purchases but I don't think that is the case at all. I for one just see that big of a differance between the 2 systems. When I see an image that I think looks like **** and I say "man I am glad I am playing it on the PC" I really mean it but not to intentionally smash console owners but to honestly share my opinion. Sure it's no big deal but when your sitting at your computer and you see something it is so easy to type your mind and hit enter.

People say that the Xbox and the PC look pretty close. I don't think so. If I had to take out my current graphic card and replace it with my old Geforce 3 from 3 years ago (The same card in the Xbox) I would cry in pain because it would not only play games literally 4X slower at the resolutions I play at but it simply wouldn't look as good and the lack of AA would be enough to make me say the Xbox looks bad. It's not a big deal and the Xbox is so much cheaper but to me it IS a big deal and well worth the money to have a faster more capable gaming box. Playing on a nice monitor at high resoluitons makes a huge differance as well.

If you don't see a large differance between the 2 systems then consider yourself lucky. The little details make a big differance to me and I consider the money to upgrade to a Geforce FX 5950 and then another upgrade to an X800XT-PE money well spent. I don't need to justify it by bashing consoles I simply feel that way as a fellow gamer. I am sure Xbox owners feel like saying something(I know they do because they have in this thread) to people that say the PS2 looks about the same as an Xbox. It's the same for PC users when people say that 3 year old consoles look and run similar to a new PC but for less money.

Some of us think that the differance is huge and well worth the money. I am not a console hater and I use them myself but if I see it or play it on a computer I can no longer play it on a console. I can't even look at the console version without saying something bad about it. For example: I played GTA vice city on the PS2 for 6 monthes before it came out on the PC and now I can't even turn the PS2 version on without saying something bad about it which would probably offend most PS2 owners that don't own it on the computer. It must be habit but it's certainly not personal to anyone who doesn't play on the PC. I am playing many games on my PC but of course I am playing San Andreas on the PS2 until it comes out in a couple monthes for the PC.

The only console games I play are games that are released way earlier on consoles or they are console exclusives. I didn't come on hear bashing anybody or anything, I am just trying to explain why some of us PC gamers seem so annoying sometimes. It's because you let us bother you for being who we are. We spend so much money on our computers because we know how much of a differance it makes to US to have faster more capable gaming boxes.

BTW sorry for any spelling errors but I don't feel like wasting the time to correct this( Yeah I know I'm a lazy PC tech guy).

e_con
03-09-2005, 10:58 PM
PC is actually where GD's and publishers get the least money. Consoles is where all the money's at(GTA4, H2, RE4). So, if they devoted more time to PC, they wouldt get enough money.

Gangxta123
03-09-2005, 10:59 PM
Yo f16 why post this thread with old screenshot pics in them??? the shots are old fro december..........And i am pretty sure everyone in the splinter cell world saw them.....

mortified_dodo
03-09-2005, 11:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by the_sextein:
If I had to take out my current graphic card and replace it with my old Geforce 3 from 3 years ago (The same card in the Xbox) I would cry in pain because it would not only play games literally 4X slower at the resolutions I play at but it simply wouldn't look as good and the lack of AA would be enough to make me say the Xbox looks bad. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The GPU in an Xbox is NOT a GeForce3. You appear to be grossly misinformed.

trakslacker
03-09-2005, 11:28 PM
I could be wrong about this, but the Xbox GPU is not the exact equivalent of any Nvidia processor. Rather, it is a custom GPU that shares similarities between a few NV retail cards. In terms of graphical processing power, it sits between the NV25 and the NV30 cores, and is actually called the NV2A. It does indeed include several features of the NV30, but can most closely be compared to a beefed up version of the GeForce 4(NV25). I guess if you had to place it in the GeForce family, one could call it an NV27.5

the_sextein
03-10-2005, 12:57 AM
Actually it is a tweaked version of the Geforce 3 core. It is a little faster then a normal Gefroce 3 but it is not as fast as a geforce 4. I didn't mention it because their was no need. Even a Geforce 4 is 3 generations behind so it doesn't change my point.

trakslacker
03-10-2005, 01:28 AM
well, fair enough. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bobthevila
03-10-2005, 10:14 AM
look at the last 2 ps2 shots here on the uk site... those ones look nearer to xbox....

splintercell.com/uk

"They need more money to spend on these linux kits to make normal mapping on ps2. While xbox can do normal mapping without anything extra"

the cheap 2-pass would be cheep enough.

they can use the bump-mapping on the ps2 malice
with the specular highlighting


they said on an interview it uses none of the ps2's GS and is cheaper...most likely(it's envirnment map not the higher res shading of normal)

Alex_HS
03-10-2005, 12:49 PM
I mean it, DX9 is here and look at Far Cry, HL2, Doom3, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., etc. We could have alot more of these in the making or even out if it wasnt for the overall console focus by all the major publishers, Unreal3 looks amazing but will there be enough quality games using its engine?
No, they will all be publishing DX8 games using outdated technology to make the big profit out of the toy platform. Its a sad reality but its true, and then sometimes throw us those multiplatform games that look like pooo and are old overplayed stuff, that i find even ofensive http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif.
And also, after a fantastic game comes out, instead of bringing up a sequel or a new decent project developers start dumbing it down to console standards, i mean come on, console games are alot more expensive so its not such a big deal to upgrade PC parts now and then, what? you think Saint Andreas is a great game? Imagine it if it was built for and to take advantage of the PC then, it would be 50x much better.
Chaos Theory? If we all had the same platform all the developing time spent doing worse, lesser versions would be used to make a better, unique and lenthier game. It wasnt terrible with just the ps2 but since micro$oft decided to take the market with its console the production of quality PC games stagnated quite a bit, PC is a vital tool these days that everyone needs and uses, just learn your PC and how to keep it up to date acording to your budget, its actualy very worth it and even rewarding, you wont need the fastest cpu or gpu out there to play games with decent quality.
Flame has much has you want, xboxers feel the same about the ps2 or the gc, well PC is cult, user made maps and mods can be very good, sometimes better than paid, downloaded or original content.
Console development is holding things back http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.

mortified_dodo
03-10-2005, 05:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alex_HS:
I mean it, DX9 is here and look at Far Cry, HL2, Doom3, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., etc. We could have alot more of these in the making or even out if it wasnt for the overall console focus by all the major publishers, Unreal3 looks amazing but will there be enough quality games using its engine?
No, they will all be publishing DX8 games using outdated technology to make the big profit out of the toy platform. Its a sad reality but its true, and then sometimes throw us those multiplatform games that look like pooo and are old overplayed stuff, that i find even ofensive http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif.
And also, after a fantastic game comes out, instead of bringing up a sequel or a new decent project developers start dumbing it down to console standards, i mean come on, console games are alot more expensive so its not such a big deal to upgrade PC parts now and then, what? you think Saint Andreas is a great game? Imagine it if it was built for and to take advantage of the PC then, it would be 50x much better.
Chaos Theory? If we all had the same platform all the developing time spent doing worse, lesser versions would be used to make a better, unique and lenthier game. It wasnt terrible with just the ps2 but since micro$oft decided to take the market with its console the production of quality PC games stagnated quite a bit, PC is a vital tool these days that everyone needs and uses, just learn your PC and how to keep it up to date acording to your budget, its actualy very worth it and even rewarding, you wont need the fastest cpu or gpu out there to play games with decent quality.
Flame has much has you want, xboxers feel the same about the ps2 or the gc, well PC is cult, user made maps and mods can be very good, sometimes better than paid, downloaded or original content.
Console development is holding things back http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Go home. If I were standing in front of you right now, I'd punch you in the face. Learn how to shut up. If you don't like platforms, don't buy one! There are an infinite amount of reasons why a console is better than a PC. And don't say PC's are better because "they're more powerful!". A PC is not more powerful than a console. It is more powerful than an xbox, a ps2, or a gamecube, but PC's are not more powerful than Consoles. The xbox was as powerful as the PCs of the time when it came out, and next-next-gen consoles will be as powerful as PCs when THEY come out. Just because it's called a CONSOLE does not make it a watered down PC. Xenon will use HD, anti-aliasing, new engines like Unreal3, and every last feature that made PCs more powerful than the last xbox. In year or twos time, owning a Xenon or a Ps3 will be exactly the same graphics-wise as plugging a cutting-edge PC into your television instead of a monitor.

Don't compare your rig to a five year old piece of hardware just to make yourself feel better! When you compare it to an xbox that was made that many years ago, of course a new PC will be more powerful!

the_sextein
03-10-2005, 06:59 PM
This thread is getting out of control. There is no need to even go there. I will say this though. Both PC's and Consoles have their advantages. You pay less for a console because you are getting less. Plain and simple consoles are cheap so that the main stream masses will buy it. Since the mainstream masses own it more games get sold on that platform which allows more development for the console. Other than that a PC is surpieror in every way. I am not pushing it in your face it is a fact. What do you want him to compare his PC to? An Xbox that will come out 2 years from now? The PS2, Xbox and Gamecube are the most powerfull consoles out and the PC is more than 500% faster. I didn't make that up either it is a fact. When the Xbox came out it had a 733MHz Pentium 3 in it using a 133FSB. Computers were all ready using the Pentium 4 architecture by then. The Xbox had 64MB of RAM. My computer had 512MB when the Xbox was released. The only thing the Xbox had was a slightly faster version of the Geforce 3 that PC users had for monthes. Within 6 monthes of the Xbox release the Geforce 4 came out and PC's were out right faster. Since then the 9700 pro doubled the geforce 4's power and then the 9800 series added another 30% increase. Now the X800 line is 2X faster then a 9800. Things are moving very fast. Once consoles can do what PC's can do and they can do it equally as fast then they will be computers and they will cost just as much. If you notice each time a console is released the prices go up. Making a console upgradable would intrest me but I am sure that it would make the system cost thousands. What he said is true about the developers concentrating on console games and it limiting what the PC can do. Look at SplinterCell PT. It runs worse on my system then Doom 3 which looks 2X better then splintercell. The reason is because it was designed for a weak console. If I have 2000MB of RAM it won't matter if the engine was designed to only use the 64MB that the Xbox has. I am glad that Chaos Theory will at least be developed to take advantage of a few PC specific things. I hear that Chaos theory not only looks better but it actually runs faster than PT because the PC was actually focused on this time. It makes a big differance. Anyway I'm not going to continue this argument. No point to it. I am not complaining about consoles I think they are a great buy for the money and they have some great games on them. I just don't see how PC's are not recognized for being way better and worth the money. If you don't agree with me then fine I own both if you dont' want to own a PC then it's your loss. It's not like I am trying to convice you that you should buy one. I am simply standing up for the PC.

Jackal56o
03-10-2005, 07:03 PM
this sextein guy is right.....

there is no reason for us to fight.
I realize i was a fool to fight over a stupid thing such as this, console vs. console.
Maybe if we all get along, in the future, xbox people can help and play with ps2 people...

and i say....


I HAVE A DREAM! THAT ONE DAY MY PS2 AND MY FRIENDS XBOX, CAN SIT BESIDE EACH OTHER, IN PERFECT HARMONY! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

the_sextein
03-10-2005, 09:00 PM
very true. No matter what system you usually play on splintercell will be pushing the graphical limits of it to new levels. I think you will have fun with it no matter what system you are playing on. While I prefer the PC I do think that co-op will be much more fun playing with a friend that is actually sitting next to you. I don't plan on buying it for Xbox but I can assure you that my buddy will bring his Xbox version over so that we can play co-op togather on the Xbox.

ChaosTheory13
03-10-2005, 09:01 PM
whats with all the big posts?

Nightmarecast24
03-10-2005, 09:03 PM
I agree with CT13.
Daaaaaaaaaaaaamn sextein. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

the_sextein
03-10-2005, 09:09 PM
LOL, I knew that would come up sometime! Honestly I am an extreamly fast typer. I don't like to brag but I type those posts up in a matter of minutes. No big deal. I simply have to type alot to get my point across sometimes.

Nightmarecast24
03-10-2005, 09:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by the_sextein:
LOL, I knew that would come up sometime! Honestly I am an extreamly fast typer. I don't like to brag but I type those posts up in a matter of minutes. No big deal. I simply have to type alot to get my point across sometimes. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well im very impressed, it's good to see that people like yourself put time and passion into getting their points and opinions across, I too do that if I need to, or care enough about the situation. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif