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The_T_from_Thai
05-21-2006, 08:56 AM
Call on Canada's New Prime Minister to End the Seal Slaughter!

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/566342047

They need 300,000 sign and the deadline is the end of this month.


Are they looks innocent ?

http://www.pantip.com/cafe/lumpini/topic/L4377808/L4377808-0.jpg
http://www.pantip.com/cafe/lumpini/topic/L4377808/L4377808-1.jpg
http://www.pantip.com/cafe/lumpini/topic/L4377808/L4377808-4.jpg



I have sign that


Please look at these defenseless creatures. Aren't they looks innocent & lovely?

They have the right to live the same as you, those cruel hunters, and everyone. Please end this savage action for good.

We hope we can have faith in you that you will enact a law to end it.


Respecfully yours,

Mr. Wittawat Srikwan

Secret_Holder
05-21-2006, 10:01 AM
I won't sign that petition that's for sure. I think this matter should be settled by the Canadian people, not by "outlanders" who have no understanding of what happens.
Why? Because The Faroe Islands have had similar problems because of the Pilot Whale hunting. Outlanders, come and say that we can't kill the whales because of...(stuoid arguments)

If it indeed is true that these seals get skinned alive, then it of course is horrible.

P.S: Those three pictured are 100% propaganda pictures. I've seen similar pictures many times, when it concerns Pilot Whale hunting.

FoxHero
05-21-2006, 03:11 PM
And, any argument for Pilot Whale hunting except depleting fish stock? Which of course have been plenty 60 years ago, in Iceland fish was a steal back then. Guess why?

Red_orbiT_
05-21-2006, 03:22 PM
I suppose the main argument is that you shouldn't really kill anyone regardless of if it is a human or something else.
The people who agrees with this will not need any other arguments.
The people who do not agree will need other arguments.
I'm not sure if I agree or not. While I'm not at all averse with the wiew and don't think I could kill an animal(except insects), I eat meat and find it strangely hard to give up.
If there are other arguments for stopping the seal slaughter it could be effective to put them up here.
The cuddly seal pictures seems a rather shallow argument though. I do not think an animal is particularly worth to protect just because of how it looks...

PS:Sorry, rambled a bit there...

Secret_Holder
05-21-2006, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by FoxHero:
And, any argument for Pilot Whale hunting except depleting fish stock? Which of course have been plenty 60 years ago, in Iceland fish was a steal back then. Guess why?

Well, for one it's non-commercial.
It's a great way for people to get free food.
Leading scientists/biologists have stated, that the Pilot Whale is no way near extinction. In the last ten years, we have killed 0.1% of the Pilot Whale population, wich I think can be sustained.
Also, the interest in the Pilot Whale is decreasing, as doctors say that girls and women should not eat Pilot Whale because of the level of mercury in the whales.

Justice
05-21-2006, 03:53 PM
I'll not sign this petition.
The reasons are simple:

The animals are just as cruel and uninoncent as every other animal, including humans. THey aren't some cute little teddy bears or disney animals.
All, except a few isolated events, of cruelty to the animals have prooven to be false or constructed by the people who brought the "proofs" of cruelty.
There are far worse things to fight! The seals live a free and good life, untill they die a much quicker and more painless death than by some other hunter than humans. How is it about all the chickens, pigs, cows, sheep... Who live in some tight room, are being feed with growth hormons who absolutely ruin everything in their systems... there are hundreds of millions of those animals, millions of them not even capable of walking even if they had had the room... go foghting for their rights instead of these who look more innoncent when young, and then they aren't hunted anyway http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

As for the pilot whale hunting, they too live a free and good life and take at the very most 10 seconds to die and a bit of pain is inevitabel then. There are hunted some 1000 of them each year, for food and the tradition in it.- and guess what... the pilot whales are getting more and more even thoug they are "hunted" by the savage Faroese http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Justice
05-21-2006, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by Secret_Holder:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FoxHero:
And, any argument for Pilot Whale hunting except depleting fish stock? Which of course have been plenty 60 years ago, in Iceland fish was a steal back then. Guess why?

Well, for one it's non-commercial.
It's a great way for people to get free food.
Leading scientists/biologists have stated, that the Pilot Whale is no way near extinction. In the last ten years, we have killed 0.1% of the Pilot Whale population, wich I think can be sustained.
Also, the interest in the Pilot Whale is decreasing, as doctors say that girls and women should not eat Pilot Whale because of the level of mercury in the whales. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

you forgott that they taste great and live a far better life than the animals we buy from the stores... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I just realised that the meat in the stores once was animals http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Secret_Holder
05-21-2006, 04:08 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif


THey aren't some cute little teddy bears or disney animals.


Wich is what those propaganda pictures make them look like.
Almost all animal activists seem to have this problem. You post three pictures of them looking "mighty sweet", and everybody's like "awww"
It's propaganda, nothing else.


you forgott that they taste great and live a far better life than the animals we buy from the stores... I just realised that the meat in the stores once was animals


I thought about adding "they taste good", but I just felt i was a too weak argument.

Shauku83
05-21-2006, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by Justice:

and guess what... the pilot whales are getting more and more even thoug they are "hunted" by the savage Faroese http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Yes the savage Faroese http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif I have a friend who told me a while ago after watching Lost(the serie) how horrible it would be to crash land on some primitive deserted island, like Faroe Islands http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
(don't hurt the messenger, don't you http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif)

Justice
05-21-2006, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Shauku83:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Justice:

and guess what... the pilot whales are getting more and more even thoug they are "hunted" by the savage Faroese http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Yes the savage Faroese http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif I have a friend who told me a while ago after watching Lost(the serie) how horrible it would be to crash land on some primitive deserted island, like Faroe Islands http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
(don't hurt the messenger, don't you http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif a pure desert it is http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif almost no rain or snow, it's snwing now, and we are so primitive that we use mind control to be on the internet! No electricity or houses on the Fatoes http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Secret_Holder
05-21-2006, 04:17 PM
Yes the savage Faroese I have a friend who told me a while ago after watching Lost(the serie) how horrible it would be to crash land on some primitive deserted island, like Faroe Islands

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
Good one! You actually made me laugh there

Shauku83
05-21-2006, 04:23 PM
Yeah, that one made me laugh too. The Americans aren't apparently the only ones that know geography well http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Justice
05-21-2006, 04:28 PM
Uh.... and Finland has the best educated people in the world http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Shauku83
05-21-2006, 04:38 PM
Haa, indeed. But wait... what kind of education do the other countries have then http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
The world is coming to an end...

Justice
05-21-2006, 04:50 PM
So it is... And the cult of alder will be there to fill the void http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Red_orbiT_
05-21-2006, 05:30 PM
Mind control? Wooooow http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

FoxHero
05-22-2006, 03:01 AM
I wouldn't be against seal hunting if we ATE them. But we simply skin them.
In addition, it's allowed to club them. Being beaten to death is certainly a bad way to go, especially since you hardly die from one blow.

The Pilot-Whale thing sounds okay from what you tell me but the seal clubbing it's not.

I partially agree with the picture propaganda. It taking the mercy lane. But how in 3 devils name do you get people to accept animals as equals? You know, they are not cute and innocent and worthy of protection but rather strongwilled individuals who wanna life their life in their society as undisturbed as possible. Just like us.

The difference between human and animal is, animals have no defense against us. Anything from a certain size upwards we can make willfully extinct. We are intelligent and strong but people have not yet realized that this also comes with responsibility.

So at least show some mercy and don't kill what you don't eat. Don't club a seal for fur.

Fox

Labyrinth
05-22-2006, 03:16 AM
I'm all with Justice.

I guess there's always an ugly side of everything, which, in this case, is that actually not all those animals die immediately. But this won't make me sign such a petition.

By the way, I'm *very* rarely eating meat at all, because all you can get here in Germany is meat made of animals from factory farming.
This is nothing I can support in anyway - so I don't buy this meant and I rarely eat it when it's offered to me outside home.

FoxHero
05-22-2006, 05:59 AM
Why?
It's a simple sign.

And you must life in a rather rural area if you can't get any meat from organic farming where you life.
It's a bit of way but I can get almost everything from organic farming in Vienna.

Labyrinth
05-22-2006, 06:37 AM
It's coming slowly. I hope other people are buying more "bio" food as well - this would make that stuff a bit cheaper.

Justice
05-22-2006, 06:39 AM
I'm in school so almost no time to argument right now...

that being beaten to death is one of the fake propaganda movies... They die as fast as with a shot, except when it are newbies who are learning, and the movie where they were beaten to death wasn't true. The animal rights company whivh did it has later been prooven to have been drinking the Inuits who did it completely drunk... and the result was pretty much like that. And the majority of the seals are also being eaten and there are programs going on in the areas where they aren't and there they are starting to eat more and more, llike it was before to much easy money entered the competition...

Now I have 2 minutes to read my homeworks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

vordhosbn1234
05-24-2006, 07:34 PM
My opinion is that we as humans (and undead some of us :P) must try to be something more. Yes it is true all animals are cruel. And all people also. But if you apriciate your life, you should apriciate others too. Seals don't do that. Humans do!

P.S.: And so does the undead by our unique undead way. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Madman_V3N0M
05-25-2006, 06:28 AM
I think humans are the cruelest animals to have ever existed. Peple are some of the few species that kill and cause pain for fun not food. Because of us 2 species of plants or animals dissapear every DAY. I am a vegetarian, yet i eat cheese and eggs- so I'm not against food from animals- I kust don't wanna kill anything to get food out of it.
Let me give u some things to think about:
1. Imagine thet every time u wanted to eat meat u would have to kill the animal it comes from with your own hands. U wouldn't need to struglle with it or even cook it(someone lese would do that 4 u), u would just have to kill it yourself, stick the knife in it's throat, stain your hand with blood and watch it die. I'm sure that if that was the way in the World lots of people would stop eating meat.
2. Now imagine that we were not the top of the food chain, that there would be a species that regularly kills us indiscriminantly and then eats us. We would call them murderers, criminals, killers.
What do you think animals think of us?

Justice
05-25-2006, 06:54 AM
That is what disneyfikation is http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I live with animals. I kill my own animals for food, or my fathher kills them and I slaughter them, got it?

First of all, you are targeting the wronge people. Those who are bad are those who keep animals captured in a smal room for all their life, ead my first posts here, secobdly animals do exactly the same as we. If they think anything of us, other than keep away from them or that we are those nice folkes who give them food, it is that they wish they were just like us http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Animals don't have terms for murders, criminals, or killers. They only know where they are in the food chain and were the others are. They, probably, think everything is about them, and simply want to survive like every living beiong does. Unfortunatly all must die one day, and those of the human food animals who live a good life, seal, whales, some sheep, cows, chicken and so one live a good life untill they die. Those you ought to fight are those who really do torture animals! The big shot firms who keep captured only for the money and give **** about how the animals are and how they die. They feed them with all kinds of chemical who knows what it does things, who make sure they get big and fat quikly, but in return they are walking around in pain and having a body that is like the very worste causes of fast food humans...

Those who live a free life and die quickly, like the seals, whales and all the other stuff these rather stupid so called protestors shout about (strange they don't go after those whit the really big money, ay?) live a good life for animals, and animals see no difference in humans and other predators, unless they realise they die quicker and whit less pain and those who have an easy life thanks to humans.

It really isn't anything to cry about. Humans are just as animalistic as animals, just in a more intelligent way ? that we, most of us, care about how the animals die or try to bull**** ourselves whit that we do care how they die... But how many millions don't eat the animals mass produced under terrible sircumstances and then say buhu... look! They are killing seals and whales who lived a great life and die quickly! We must stop them. Please honney, pass me that mass produced chicken that was fill whit more chemical substances than we can immagin and never saw the light of the sun http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

You are fighting the wronge thing!

Secret_Holder
05-25-2006, 07:09 AM
u would just have to kill it yourself, stick the knife in it's throat, stain your hand with blood and watch it die. I'm sure that if that was the way in the World lots of people would stop eating meat.


I'm sorry to say that you are very wrong about this.
If we go back before the time of factories (The Industrial Revolution), almost everyone had to get their own food, wich meant killing the animals that it came from, and they ate meat without hesitation. Was this because vegetables and such was not availible to them? No.
I agree with Justice also. I've seen many sheep get killed, and I still eat meat.
Justice is also right, you are fighting the wrong cause. Why not fight for those chickens who spend there lives in a small room laying eggs, and getting all kinds of pills to speed up the process, so the farmer can get more money?
Justice has said that perfectly:


But how many millions don't eat the animals mass produced under terrible sircumstances and then say buhu... look! They are killing seals and whales who lived a great life and die quickly! We must stop them. Please honney, pass me that mass produced chicken that was fill whit more chemical substances than we can immagin and never saw the light of the sun

Modern man in a nutshell

Madman_V3N0M
05-25-2006, 07:18 AM
I agree with you Just. I said most people would stop eating meat if they had to kill animlas for it. I have nothing against u guys. I myself grew up on a farm. If you're okay with eating what u kill that's perfectly fine. But most peple don't give a second thought about what they eat, if you have to kill animals do it as painless as posible and as humane as possible. And don't overkill! And yes these "meat factoryes" have to be stopped first, it's awfull for the animals and the meat is bad for us.
I'm not saying people should stop eating meat, I'm just asking to think where the meat is coming from.
And we also need to do something about endangered species, and even some species that aren't endangered (YET).

Madman_V3N0M
05-25-2006, 08:18 AM
If we go back before the time of factories (The Industrial Revolution), almost everyone had to get their own food

Well that's not entirely true. People used to and still do get meat from the butcher. And those that killed their own food still didn't eat as much meat as we do today.

Secret_Holder
05-25-2006, 08:22 AM
If we go back before the time of factories (The Industrial Revolution), almost everyone had to get their own food

znork
05-25-2006, 09:04 AM
I like cute food!

Madman_V3N0M
05-25-2006, 09:09 AM
Anyway I don't wanna get any more involved in this discution, I've said my say and... SAVE THE PANDAS! <joking> that's it im off to post somewhere else.
Love and Peace! everyone

Justice
05-25-2006, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by znork:
I like cute food!

LOL http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

I guess most people know where their food comes from... they just don't want to know like they don't want to know that idealism is dying, we fight for poverty more than we fight poverty and so one... It's human to block the bad things and always will be http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Red_orbiT_
05-25-2006, 05:54 PM
Bad things? No bad things here! No bad things at all in th-
*walks into a wall*
Ouch!
Erm... anyways...
*runs away(stumbling badly because he's blindfolded)*

znork
05-26-2006, 04:58 PM
Bamby is realy teaty, and the rabit to num num. You know protecting selas is just stupid they would depleat the fish stock realy fast. Hunting seals is not bad, hunting just the mother of cubs is a bad thing, hunting cubs for seal skin is bad. Hunting is a good thing and hunting sels is a good thing.

rigidmember2006
06-08-2006, 06:10 AM
Originally posted by FoxHero:
I wouldn't be against seal hunting if we ATE them. But we simply skin them.
In addition, it's allowed to club them. Being beaten to death is certainly a bad way to go, especially since you hardly die from one blow.


4 things.. 1) People do eat seals 2)In Canada it is already illegal to hunt those cute white-coated baby seals that are in those pictures. 3) A gun is used 95% of the time to hunt them. Besides, a club is no more cruel than the implaments used to kill the millions of chickens, pigs and cows many people eat every day.
4) For what its worth, the Canadian seal hunt is supported by the WWF (not Hulk Hogan... silly, the animlal preservation group)

It is an individual decision whether or not it is OK for people to live off of other animals. Please, if you are trying to convince people of your point of view do some research. Dont beleive the propeganda of some of those animal rights groups. They are out to make money too... with your generous support of course.

Kungfusuzie
06-08-2006, 06:13 AM
Once again, the media is giving only PART of the story.

As a Canadian Maritimer (no I don't hunt seal myself), we DO eat seal. Seal flipper pie, seal stew, seal burgers, seal livers. We also eat moose, cow, pig, dear, and carrots. Those poor carrots...they never even saw it coming.

I can give you some great seal recipes, in case you are interested. The fact is, seal hunting has been part of our culture for at least 4000 years. We use/d furs and meat. We don't club baby seals, they have to be mature, white coat seals are off limits.

This anti-seal hunting has been brought on by uneducated people. And thanks to the negitive image brought on by the media, we are loosing an important part of the Newfoundland economy, which is struggling to being with. What you are saying to me is "who cares if you loose your lifestyle, as long as no animals get hurt". While we're at it, let's protest cow and pig farming.

Justice
06-08-2006, 07:16 AM
Finally http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I thought we didn't have any Canadians here to shed light on just how it is over there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

but could you give me some of those recipees? I'm serious i would really like to get some of them, and have my mother try cocking them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But for once we in the Faroes and CAnada are doing something else than fighting over fish http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif we actually agree now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

tadaeusas
06-08-2006, 08:10 AM
mostly i agree with Madman, people are the most cruelest animals in the world.
some of people are just cruel,
and some are crueler than cruels.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

..and..some of them lives here..in the Tavern http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Kungfusuzie
06-08-2006, 09:29 AM
OK Justice, here's a nice Newfie recipe for Seal Flipper pie.

1. Soak 4 seal flippers in 1L water and 500ml soda.
2. Trim off extra fat
3. Dry off and add seasonings...Worchestershire sauce is a favorite.
4. Brown in 125ml diced pork fat and make a gravy using 1 cup milk, 2 chopped onions, 5ml salt, 60ml flour, and 250ml cold water.
5. Bake it all in the oven at 160C for about 2.5 hrs
6. Make a pie crust, or buy one if your lazy
7. Fill crust with flipper filling and cover with second crust
8. Bake pie for 30min at 220C.

It's a lot of work, but since we only get seals at certian times of the year, it's quite a treat. Course, if this potition goes through, then I have just given you an extinct recipe.

If this works out for you, I can send you a simple recipe for moose tounge. Hopefully moose hunting will not get protested. Moose meat lasagna is delicious.

Red_orbiT_
06-08-2006, 10:12 AM
If you run out of moose in Kanada there's no end of them in Sweden. The wolves are practically gone(although they are slowly returning), so nobody eats Moose here but us(the humans that is).
The hunters practically have to shoot large numbers of moose every year to prevent them from swarming the forest like zerg and eat themselves to extinction. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Justice
06-08-2006, 12:09 PM
We have no mooses here in the Faroes http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

But that recipee looks kinda funny http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif hope I'll convince my mother and find some good seals http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Phoss
06-08-2006, 01:05 PM
If you start making stickers saying 'Proud that our troops are dying for your ****ty gas mileage?' I'll stick one on my car.

Sandra_1960
06-13-2006, 07:52 AM
No offence to most of you people, butlets face facts. People suck, We will destroy everthing we can for money, You all know for a fact that there could be one last pure drinking source of water in the world, and for the right price you will find someone to pee in it. It is our nature. And no one is pure Every person in the world has added thier help in wrecking something. A tree hugger will chain him or herself to save a tree but in doingso Paid a strip mining copany by buying the chain.
As for the seals. simple if we stop the hunt the over populate and destroy everthing around them including themselves. If we keep hunt then We go overboard and almost wipe them out. polution fixed some of our problems by not provideing enough ice this year and thier breeding grounds where to small. Nature will kill them off now then to keep the levels down.
but in the end if man gets his hand in it the end is always bad. Bleeding heart animal lovers make things over populate and the animals suffer through starvation and plague. Industry would wipe them out for money and the bottom line. Beside lets face it most people only care bcaus they are so cute as pups. if it dung beatles people were clubing they be first in line to swing the club.

Sandra_1960
06-13-2006, 07:54 AM
ps. sorry for the spelling. I suck at spelling.

Justice
06-13-2006, 08:13 AM
No one will kill you for spelling http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif the forum mascot himself writes Znorkish and not English, so there is nothing to say sorry for...

As for your point i botg agree and disagree. As for what I know about, the whales that we FAroese hunt have been hunted by us in the same amount for several hundred years, and they are more now if anything and fatter http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
But when money is involved it often ends badly, just look at the fish, they have pretty often now been fished down to almost the last fish... and I think all here agree thatthose who are the real sinners are the firms who produce animals for food...

But I strongly disagree when it comes to traditional hunts, the thing that most animal protection guys are aginst, that is in those traditional hunts were it only is the killing methods that get modernised rather than the hunting methods and stuff like that... To my knowledge neither the seals or whales have ever been close to extinction because of humans.- Except that the seals once were thought to be bad and thus hunted, but that is not likely to happen again...

And I do believe that humans are borne evil, but learn to be good. And it aren't all of us who will do everything for money, just those who get to the money and power, since the other ones automatically don't go any longer, and because of these totally idealism and pretty much religiousl dead times we live kill of the morals that we, so that the money money money ptinsiple is more and more true http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

But why you say that you disagree that much with us that you must say sorrey for that too i don't understand.

But I strongley disagree that we are essentially evil, since that automatically would result in our own destruction. It is only the way things are now, and things have always been shifting. Either our children or the next generation will be very idealistic again, and then in some generations it will be like it is now... So to say that that is just the way it is, is wronge... That is like when the romans said that Rome would always rule, and like if Americans say that America always will be dtrongest, already in our time China or some other Asiatic country will be richer http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif So that is just the time, an we are just unlucky enough to live in these dead times, where the only real idealism are extreeme ones like Neo konservativism and those extremists who claim they are muslims...

Sandra_1960
06-13-2006, 10:27 AM
Well for onething . I don't agree with just going hunting for the sake of getting to kill. But I do like to go hunting for the meat. I live in Nova Scotia Canada. For a time the seal hunt was crazy Up north and everyone jumped on the we hate seal hunters band wagon. but then the seal ( and over fishing ) killed the cod fishing in nfld. worse still the seal got way out of control damaging everthing shorelines other fishery gear you name it it was hell. So the hunt was helping things in the long run. It not a matter of saying lets do nothing and not care, its a matter of asking how much caring is to much and how much is not enough. it's one thing to clain a life has the right to live. but its the same people saying this, would called animal control to kill the same creature if it 50 of them showed up and annex his\her pool.

Apollosaim
07-28-2006, 03:30 PM
Ok, listen,, newfoundlanders have been going on the seal hunt since before they were even part of canada, it is a part of their culture, and that shouldnt be taken away, if you ask me nobody but newfoundlanders should be given the right to vote on whether it should end or not. Its none of the rest of canada/the world buisness, they arent killin off all the seals, they arent makin them endangered.

chaosgorgon
07-28-2006, 03:50 PM
ha!!!!

lol!!!

ok, im not with the seals http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif, but really the Justice logic disturb me!, i mean if you find a wild animal, you have a higher right to kill it, because it had a good wild live!!

...........................i like that logic http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

anyway if the hunting is controlled then the skin industry still can all their mess with the seals -really dont like such stupid industries, bue well-, now yes the greendudes cry louder, are filled by semntimental ppl, etc... BUT without theire whinins im sure that many fauna wouldnt exist now and actually many ppl shouldnt have animals to hunt and save their day, so is cuestion of balance, they maybe dont have all the right to make such "save the seals" thing, sinse is country question, BUT in the end they induce some debate in these countries

Justice
07-28-2006, 04:00 PM
No. I say they are fighting the wronge thing. We eeat animals that have had a good life and not for money. most people eat mass produced animals only living bevcasue of money and who are mistreated as hell. I say we are more humane than they are and that thy are the evil ones.- Simple as that, not that you have a higher right to kille someone. I have just as much right killing you as an animal, but I've heard humans taste bad http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Red_orbiT_
07-28-2006, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Justice:
No. I say they are fighting the wronge thing. We eeat animals that have had a good life and not for money. most people eat mass produced animals only living bevcasue of money and who are mistreated as hell. I say we are more humane than they are and that thy are the evil ones.- Simple as that, not that you have a higher right to kille someone. I have just as much right killing you as an animal, but I've heard humans taste bad http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Like chicken Justice. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Justice
07-28-2006, 04:06 PM
lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I've heard that the original tribes around the world tasted good, but the modern human eats food that maeks it taste bad http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

chaosgorgon
07-28-2006, 04:12 PM
man, your argument fall in that funny interpretation, even in the last post,before make arguments try to see all the interpretations it have

what you are saying is "whos gona care?, they had a good live!", lol, whic also is no way apoint pro hunting

BTOG46
07-28-2006, 04:13 PM
I always heard that it was like pork, hence the term "long pig" used in the Pacific area by cannibals http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

chaosgorgon
07-28-2006, 04:15 PM
wow guys you are getting nasty here

BTOG46
07-28-2006, 04:25 PM
What do you mean "getting" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif
We`re evil http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Justice
07-28-2006, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by chaosgorgon:


what you are saying is "whos gona care?, they had a good live!", lol, whic also is no way apoint pro hunting

Yes. That's it. They are dead afterwards. Only felt pain a few secconds. They had a good life. Better than many humans and taste good http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I couldn't dream of eating the other mass produced **** that was tortured whil it lived so it got bigger and fatter...

The cannibals almost never ate Europeans. Only when religion forced them to. We simply taste like **** to them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

chaosgorgon
07-28-2006, 05:09 PM
now that we are in the cannibalism/muna meat spam.....

is obvious that a black dragon would love to eat these tasty bunchy peasents, but of course some are in diet and are limited to elves http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

i preffere to eat a dark elve.........if you know what i mean http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Justice
07-28-2006, 05:33 PM
LOL http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif be my guest and exterminate them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I'll be you forever gratefull if you do http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif