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Zamolxis108
04-14-2005, 10:18 AM
One pretty important thing for some of us, is the keyboard shortcuts. IMO, even those were worse in H4, compared to H3.

Which keyboard shortcut system was your favourite? What would you keep? What would you change?

I'll post here the H3 keyboard shortcut system, bolding the shortcuts I often used and/or would like to see them also in H5.

Heroes of Might and Magic III - Keyboard Shortcuts:

Adventure Map:
H - Selects next hero
M - Moves current hero
K - Kingdom Overview
U - Toggles map elevation (surface/underground)
C - Cast spell
Z - Puts current hero to sleep
W - Wakens current hero
Q - Quest Log
E - End turn
A - Adventure Options

V - View World
P - Puzzle Map
D - Dig
I - View Scenario Info
O - System Options
M - Main Menu
L - Load Game
R - Restart Scenario
S - Save Game
Q - Quit to Desktop
Esc - Return to Game
Arrow Keys - Moves current hero
(Including the NumPad keys, very useful for moving the hero also on diagonal: 1,3,7,9)
Ctrl + Arrow Keys - Scrolls Adventure Map
Return - Centers current hero or town on Adventure Map
Tab - Send a chat message (multi-player game)
Esc - Quit

Combat Screen (ALL except <span class="ev_code_RED">Space</span>):
A - Automatic combat on/off
D - Defend
W - Wait

C - Cast spell
R - Retreat
S - Surrender
O - Combat Options
T - View troop
F5 - Toggles creature pop-up types
F6 - Toggles hex grid display
F7 - Toggles mouse shadow display
F8 - Toggles movement shadow display
Up/Down Arrow Keys - Scrolls combat messages
<span class="ev_code_RED">Space - Selects next creature</span> - It actually acts as "Defend", so it's tricky. I would make it act as "<span class="ev_code_BLUE">Wait</span>" (more used & more useful).
S - Start combat during Tactics phase

Town Screen
Up Arrow - Previous town
Down Arrow - Next town
Space - Switches visiting/garrison heroes

Spell Book
Left/Right Arrows - Turns pages

Up/Down Arrows - Move through bookmarks
A - Displays adventure spells
C - Combat spells

View Army Window
U - Upgrade creature
D - Dismiss creature

General
F1 - Help
F4 - Toggles window/full screen display
Esc - Cancel, Exit, or No
Return - Okay, Accept, or Yes.

Zamolxis108
04-14-2005, 10:18 AM
One pretty important thing for some of us, is the keyboard shortcuts. IMO, even those were worse in H4, compared to H3.

Which keyboard shortcut system was your favourite? What would you keep? What would you change?

I'll post here the H3 keyboard shortcut system, bolding the shortcuts I often used and/or would like to see them also in H5.

Heroes of Might and Magic III - Keyboard Shortcuts:

Adventure Map:
H - Selects next hero
M - Moves current hero
K - Kingdom Overview
U - Toggles map elevation (surface/underground)
C - Cast spell
Z - Puts current hero to sleep
W - Wakens current hero
Q - Quest Log
E - End turn
A - Adventure Options

V - View World
P - Puzzle Map
D - Dig
I - View Scenario Info
O - System Options
M - Main Menu
L - Load Game
R - Restart Scenario
S - Save Game
Q - Quit to Desktop
Esc - Return to Game
Arrow Keys - Moves current hero
(Including the NumPad keys, very useful for moving the hero also on diagonal: 1,3,7,9)
Ctrl + Arrow Keys - Scrolls Adventure Map
Return - Centers current hero or town on Adventure Map
Tab - Send a chat message (multi-player game)
Esc - Quit

Combat Screen (ALL except <span class="ev_code_RED">Space</span>):
A - Automatic combat on/off
D - Defend
W - Wait

C - Cast spell
R - Retreat
S - Surrender
O - Combat Options
T - View troop
F5 - Toggles creature pop-up types
F6 - Toggles hex grid display
F7 - Toggles mouse shadow display
F8 - Toggles movement shadow display
Up/Down Arrow Keys - Scrolls combat messages
<span class="ev_code_RED">Space - Selects next creature</span> - It actually acts as "Defend", so it's tricky. I would make it act as "<span class="ev_code_BLUE">Wait</span>" (more used & more useful).
S - Start combat during Tactics phase

Town Screen
Up Arrow - Previous town
Down Arrow - Next town
Space - Switches visiting/garrison heroes

Spell Book
Left/Right Arrows - Turns pages

Up/Down Arrows - Move through bookmarks
A - Displays adventure spells
C - Combat spells

View Army Window
U - Upgrade creature
D - Dismiss creature

General
F1 - Help
F4 - Toggles window/full screen display
Esc - Cancel, Exit, or No
Return - Okay, Accept, or Yes.

The_Vortex
04-14-2005, 11:40 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif What I like in heroes, is that you can completely play it using only keyboard http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Aseved
04-14-2005, 12:06 PM
Gimme a .ini file to define shorcuts, and I wonâ´t have any problem with them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Zamolxis108
04-14-2005, 02:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aseved:
Gimme a .ini file to define shorcuts, and I wonâ´t have any problem with them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>How many people can do that and don't care about the original shortcuts? Thousands.

How many don't know or don't feel like having to edit .ini files? Don't know, but I can bet they are more then the other ones. So the problem still stays.

Wurtzel1952
04-14-2005, 06:13 PM
Lots of the newer games have ingame keyboard mapping options, why not in Homm5???

Lith_Maethor
04-14-2005, 07:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aseved:
Gimme a .ini file to define shorcuts, and I wonâ´t have any problem with them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

what he said... but make it possible in game too

sketan
04-15-2005, 12:56 AM
I hardly use keyboard shortcuts when playin HoMM4...maybe I should start learning some...

Might speed the game up.

Zamolxis108
11-30-2005, 04:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sketan:
I hardly use keyboard shortcuts when playin HoMM4... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Maybe because they are not so intuitive as in H3. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

If I remember well, H4 had a lot of combinations with Alt+ or Ctrl+, which is more annoying and harder to remember, than just having to press one single key like in H3.

haplo39
11-30-2005, 07:16 AM
i didnt use keyboard shortcuts while playing at all. i dont know if i need in heroes v. also i can say that heroes 3 shortcuts were good.