Aircrafts in the game that are similar in shape to other planes not in the game...

[stef51]

Hi, In designing missions, I'm trying to include planes not in the game by changing the skin and/or regional markings. Of course, it's important that the planes be somewhat similar in shape. Do any of you have done a directory of planes that could help me? I've done a few mostly because of other people knowing more about planes than I do so I was wondering if anybody has more to be added...

Things like:

H8K1=Short Sunderland
B24 =Handley Page Halifax
PE8 =Lancaster (though problems with the aft tail)
DB3B=Handley Page Hampden
SB2M=Martin Maryland
SU2 =Blackburn Skua

ect...

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Stephen

[CKY_86]

tu2-dornier do217/do17

[hotspace]

Off the top of my head:

MBR-2-AM-34 - Supermarine Walrus.

Ki-46 - Mossie.

R-10 - Boulton-Paul Defiant.

Hot Space

[stef51]

Excellent! I will add them to my list. Thanks!!

Stephen

[Enforcer572005]

The Lagg-3 is amazingly similiar to the French Dewointene D-520 (spelling?). Somebody on here made a french skin for it, and It could have fooled me. I think the latter 1943 would approximate the firepower also.

[SeaNorris]

Originally posted by stef51:
Hi, In designing missions, I'm trying to include planes not in the game by changing the skin and/or regional markings. Of course, it's important that the planes be somewhat similar in shape. Do any of you have done a directory of planes that could help me? I've done a few mostly because of other people knowing more about planes than I do so I was wondering if anybody has more to be added...

Things like:

H8K1=Short Sunderland
B24 =Handley Page Halifax
PE8 =Lancaster (though problems with the aft tail)
DB3B=Handley Page Hampden
SB2M=Martin Maryland
SU2 =Blackburn Skua

ect...

Thank you... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Stephen

PE8 = Short Stirling

[Saunders1953]

Here's some I use:

Su2 = Wirraway
D3A1 = Ki30 ("Ann")
U-2VS = Vildebeest
DB3M/DB3T or SB2M = Glenn Martin 166/WH2/WH3
DB3F = Ki21 ("Sally")

[-HH- Beebop]

Ju-88
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/HH_Beebop/Tokai_1.jpg
(skin by Vlad_TheImpaler)
for the Kyushu Q1W1 Tokai
http://wmilitary.neurok.ru/wwii/q1w.jpg

Me-210
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/HH_Beebop/210_Mossie.jpg
(skin by Vlad_TheImpaler)
for the Mosquito
http://www.tarrif.net/wwii/img/techs/mosquito61.jpg

[DjTeD]

More than the LaGG3, I would say that the MiG 3U is similar to the French Dewoitine D.520.

[SeaNorris]

http://www.hsgalleries.com/gallery04/images/d520wallpapertd_large.jpg
http://mkmagazin.almanacwhf.ru/art/art_avia/lagg_3.jpg
http://pete.boule.free.fr/il2/entr%E9e/mig3/mig3u/6iak.jpg

LaGG-3 looks more alike the D.520

[mariskal]

Hi,

Speaking of the D.520.... Does anyone have a skin (on French Vichy markings) of either a LaGG-4 or Mig 3U pretending to be the Dewoitine? If so, are you willing to share it with me? (Mariskal_FB@hotmail.com)

I'm putting together this FAA campaign and I'm looking for a D520 replacement....
(I've already used the SU2 as a Skua in my campaign!!)

Thanks a lot!

[stef51]

Well, I just found the D-520 skin for the Mig 3U but I'm pretty sure it's not Vichy, just the regular air force...

Stephen

[mariskal]

Hi Stephen,

I could still use it as the base from which tweak that skin into one with the Vichy markings.

Would you please send it to me (Mariskal_FB@hotmail.com) or point me where I can download it from?

Thanks

[WTE_Warg]

Sometimes do this in my dogfight maps to get flyable planes. Have used P-11 for Swiss Dewoitine D27 & French Loire? LN45/46, DB3 for Italian Br.20, CR.42 as German Hs123, D3A as Polish Pzl23 Karas (bit slow & no vent posi), I use the LaGG3 as D.520 because the engines on both come from the same origins. IL2i as British Fulmar (yes Fulmar is 2 seater, but performance about the same & observer didn't have gun till later versions) Apart from the nose arrangement a Li2 (DC2)will probably suffice for US B18 Bolo (just need a skin for Pearl Harbour) The R10 as Italian Breda Ba.65 with L turret. B239 as Italian / Hungarian Re2000 Heja, Ki-61 as Italian Mc.202 and IL2T as Japanese B6N Tenzan.

[stef51]

Originally posted by Mariskal:
Hi Stephen,

I could still use it as the base from which tweak that skin into one with the Vichy markings.

Would you please send it to me (Mariskal_FB@hotmail.com) or point me where I can download it from?

Thanks

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Thank to everyone about your cooperation, I really appreciate the help... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Stephen

[MB-BOB]

Here's a new one being discussed on the paint forum... a Ki-61 makes a pretty convincing He-100...
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/45410763/m/3891016123

[Slater_51st]

The Fiat Cr. 42 makes quite the Henschel HS 123. The 123 is, imho, one of the more important aircraft left out of this sim.

Even the bomb loadout, though considerably less, is carried in much the same manner. A night of work yielded this. More to go(need to rib the bottom wing), but here's a taste:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/MustangSlater67/HS123Test.jpg

S! Slater

[stef51]

Impressive work! This is excellent, keep up the good work guys!

Stef

[polak5]

Just incase you are still interested.
I made a mission were jg26 and jg2 protected the Tirpitz, while swordfish planes attacked. since there is no british made swordfish planes in the game. I used the russian U-2VS, they look very similar exept u wont be able to arm torpedos.
Regards, Polak
http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Alley/5443/tarfish3.JPG

[stef51]

Originally posted by polak5:
Just incase you are still interested.
I made a mission were jg26 and jg2 protected the Tirpitz, while swordfish planes attacked. since there is no british made swordfish planes in the game. I used the russian U-2VS, they look very similar exept u wont be able to arm torpedos.
Regards, Polak


Of course I'm always interested.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Another one added to my list. Many thanks!

Stephen

[ForkTailedDevil]

I have the French skin Lagg-3 I will be happy to forward the link. I belive I got it from French Simulations. Props to whoever designed I get lots of compliments online with it. Also if anyone wants to put up a link for skins for the CR.42 dressed up like a HS.123 I would love it as well as the Ki61 dressed like a He100 even a Hungarian skin would be good. After all didnt the Hungarians use the He-100 in the Eastern Front??

[Chuck_Older]

SB-2M 103 resembles the Ki-48 'Lily'

Ar-196 can pass for a Aichi E13A 'Jake'

I had a list of battle of France aircraft but I can't find it. We have look alikes for more aircraft for certain

[WTE_Warg]

Germans, Romanians and Spanish for those Heinkel fighters. Also use the Betty as an IL4, B-239 for the Dutch Buffalos and the CR.42 for Japanese Ki10.

[Tater-SW-]

When the Re.2000 is in, it will make an excellent stand in for the P-35 used in the Philipines. The IJAAF actually bought a 20 of these as well that saw service in China before Pearl Harbor.

Let's hear it for crapplanes!

tater

[turnipkiller]

Originally posted by Slater_51st:
The Fiat Cr. 42 makes quite the Henschel HS 123. The 123 is, imho, one of the more important aircraft left out of this sim.

Even the bomb loadout, though considerably less, is carried in much the same manner. A night of work yielded this. More to go(need to rib the bottom wing), but here's a taste:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/MustangSlater67/HS123Test.jpg

S! Slater

I agree with you Slater, it is one of the more important left out a/c. I've been working on one of those too for a prewar campaign I am kicking around. That looks fantastic what you've done there http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

[vpmedia]

I did not uploaded this to flying-legends yet:

http://www.vpmedia.hu/il2/pic_2005/07_vpmedia_cr42_hs123.jpg

http://web.axelero.hu/vpmedia/il2/07_vp_cr42_hs123.zip

Ian Boys made a dgen campaign for the Hs-123/Cr-42 which will be available with the "Ostfront" addon. I made the generics for the ac.
A good read about the eins-zwei-dreis is the Osprey-Aviation_Elite_Units_13 : Luftwaffe_Schlachtgruppen book.

[turnipkiller]

Very nice m8! You seem to have weathering down to a science. I am working on this style of camo for the first few missions of my campaign. (very rough right now tho! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif )

http://atlas.walagata.com/w/turnipkiller/hs123early.jpg

[stef51]

Excellent!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

It's obvious that since we won't have a lot of new planes from now on, using people with talents and knowledge will become more and more valuable. Great work and thanks for continuing this thread...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Stephen

[Blueboy777uk]

Me-262 as either Nakajima J8N1 Kikka (I believe this was skinned) and also as Sukhoi SU-9 (could be interesting for late 45 hypothetical combat. Could also use Me-163 as Mitsubishi Ki-200 Shusui - an export version of the aforementioned.

Great thread everybody...

[Blueboy777uk]

Sorry, got me thinking! B-29 as Tu-4. Should that be Tu-4 was a B-29? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Again for those late war hypothetical missions...

[Platypus_1.JaVA]

Back in the old days, we used the Lagg-3 as a Spitfire http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif (Look to Poymando's and Extreme_One's BoB campaign)

[LStarosta]

Originally posted by DjTeD:
More than the LaGG3, I would say that the MiG 3U is similar to the French Dewoitine D.520.

Yeah, especially in performance.

[Chuck_Older]

Well, that depends on who's stats you beleive...the object viewer is in my opinion not Gospel