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soltidecca
10-18-2005, 02:59 PM
big spoilers below. don't read unless you've finished Exile.....
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So, after finishing there is a thing I am wondering about....

1) Saavedro said he changed the symbols which need to be placed on the imaging machine in the tower by the linking book to Narayan. Ergo, he has seen the symbols that Atrus had prepared in the first place.

2) The symbols that Saavedro puts in theirs place, fit so nicely in with the logic of the inner shield puzzle on Narayan, that it is difficult to think that this should be a coincidence (the tight and intelligent logic of the game does not really allow for such a coincidence I think). Ergo, Atrus' symbols would also fit nicely in with the puzzle on Narayan.

3) Therefore, Saavedro must be really daft to not find the right combinatuion simply by trial and error during his 20 years on that island. As a matter of fact, when he comes rushing down the stairs to discover the outer field gone, he hesitates, and wonders "how did you...", then looks at the puzzle-machine and says "of course...". So he is not ignorant of the fact that these two machines regulate the shields.

4) Or, differently put, if we suppose that Saavedro has changed both of Atrus' symbols for the access to Narayan book, then he has actually already seen the solution to the shield puzzle since his symbols follow the same logic as Atrus'.

5) So he does not need the sentences in Atrus' diary to solve the puzzle like we do....

Is this not a bit weak in an otherwise very intelligent game...?

/pastic

soltidecca
10-21-2005, 10:33 AM
*bump*

so am I to deduce that I am the only one that has found this a bit peculiar... or am I the only one to have my logical wires crossed...?

/p

wstrohm
10-21-2005, 11:23 AM
soltidecca,

Maybe you are the only one who cares... (sorry!) but probably Alahmnat will eventually explain it.

soltidecca
10-21-2005, 03:37 PM
Maybe you are the only one who cares...

yeah... I figured that could be a possibility... :-(

PrincessXenobia
10-22-2005, 08:12 AM
Well actually, I never bothered to think about it http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-1/601004/blush.gif . But now that you mention it, yes -- it's pretty weak! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Luckily, holes in the plot don't necessarily keep me from enjoying a game!

soltidecca
10-22-2005, 02:29 PM
it's because Saavedro is so daft that I have no qualms about leaving him stuck between the fields when I head back to Tomahna for a coffee with Atrus and Cath... (but I admit, it felt more like a proper monumental hollywood ending to let him rejoin his family so I did that once as well...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

/p

Codeguruxx
11-05-2005, 12:17 AM
Yeah, um, was I the only one who noticed this was not a hover machine? He had a rope leading directly to his village that can suspend a half ton wooden vessel meant to hold like 4 people at once to climb along if need be for like 2 or 3 hours max http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif. But no, let's go to the D'ni general store and buy a steam powered gun to kill a doctor with and steal his reflex testing rubber mallet to threaten some random stranger into solving puzzles!...

CodeguruX

PowderedDonut3
11-12-2005, 06:47 PM
My theory is that, well you know how each orb had four symbols and only two were from each eage? I think he changed it to the other two that it wasn't. Atrus wouldn't want to remember those. Sirrus and Ahcenar were supposed to learn what was in Atrus' journal after they completed Voltaic, Amateria, and Edanna. (Energy powers furture motion. Dynamic forces spur change. Nature encourages mutual dependence.) After all, Saavedro was there to help them and give them clues to that, right? But, after they used that knowledge in the left orb, they were able to view the remaining tapestries. (By the way, the entrance covered in overgrown lattice roots, well, wasn't covered at this time, so it woiuld require only one poerson to visit Narayan.) Saavedro would propably say something about "think about this age and what it's like outside....look at how the lattice trees balance .....) and so, Balanced systems stimulate civilations ( All that is pretty much said in "balanced" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ) is used then to open the outer barrier, where they learn how to write with Saavedro.